On ebay, search for stainless survival buckle and do a bit of scrolling. look for the thicker ones, with the rounded edges, I think they are kinder on the cord than the thinner, pressed ones. Both are plenty strong enough though.
@Londall4663 ай бұрын
@@paultomlin7021 have you had any wear or otherwise seen anything happen to the dyneema while using this method?
@paultomlin70213 ай бұрын
@@Londall466 no damage in 8 years, still use that Amsteel. Only one failure, a slippage. but that was with an earlier, different tying method. I caught the failure in one of my trip videos, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7enmMx7xta5aGQ.htmlsi=lz30Kbfz4n0ZQWcB
@Londall4663 ай бұрын
@@paultomlin7021 awesome! Now I just need to find titanium ones to save on those grams 😉
@jeffmyers7062 Жыл бұрын
pretty good work there !
@Rawdilz Жыл бұрын
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
@cakeshoe2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had loop aliens for years (also from China) but have never considered actually hanging from them. Thanks for your testing and proof of concept. I don’t have any 7/64 handy but plenty of 8th”. Might give it a try
@paultomlin70212 жыл бұрын
Don't use the aluminium ones they will bend and break, stainless steel ftw
@BrosephRussell2 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👏
@garyib72002 жыл бұрын
Thanks, what stand is that?
@paultomlin70212 жыл бұрын
It's my homemade tensahedron stand, see here, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pK6RY7eSmbnQYYE.html
@quanghuypham34062 жыл бұрын
We have two! this is an amazing fix!
@chriswolli84712 жыл бұрын
Ingenious 👏 I was looking for something like that. Thank you 🙂 great video I'm a little irritated and hope you answer me two questions. The snare used in the video has only one rather than two loops from the beginning. It's a "Whoopie Sling" and not a "Half Bone"?? WhooCR = Whoopie USR Soory. Is my first hammock suspension system DIY. I'm still inexperienced about knot loops loops and co. My English isn't the best 😒🙈 Only one is needed: • 7/64" AmSteel ® WhoopieSlings ø 2.5mm • Dyneema rope ø 2.5mm I thank you so much now 🙂🙂
@paultomlin70212 жыл бұрын
My german is even worse LOL I haven't used a single line suspension system for a long time, so forgive me for being a bit rusty on this. The idea with this is to have adjustable hammock attachment points off the single line tied between trees. The whooCR gives you an adjustable length loop, which can be moved anywhere along the SLS. A normal whoopie sling has a size adjustable loop (to attach to the hammock) and a fixed loop (to attach to the tree strap). In this case, you don't need the fixed loop, because you are attaching to the SLS with the constrictor instead. So I have turned that end of the whoopie into a prusik, that helps the constrictor stay in place. If you used this method, you would have two whooCRs, one for each end of the hammock. That way you can position the hammock anywhere along the SLS and choose how much the hammock hangs below the SLS. Both the SLS and the whooCRs are made from 2.5mm amsteel. It is probably an overly complicated system.
@paultomlin70212 жыл бұрын
See this post, www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/116376-Continuous-Suspension-Ridgeline-system-with-UCR-Whoopie-Combo
@chriswolli84712 жыл бұрын
Genial 👏 Nach sowas hab ich gesucht. Vielen vielen Dank🙂 Tolles Video Ich bin ein wenig irritiert und hoffe sie beantworten mir bitte zwei Fragen. Die verwendete Schlinge im Video hat von Anfang an nur eine anstatt zwei Schlaufen. Es ist ein "Whoopie Sling" und kein "Half Bone" ?? WhooCR = Whoopie USR Soory. Ist mein erstes Hängematten Suspension System DIY. Bin noch unerfahren was Knoten Schlaufen Schlingen und co angeht. Dazu ist mein Englisch nicht das beste😒🙈 Benötigt werden nur eine: • 7/64" AmSteel® WhoopieSlings ø 2,5mm • Dyneema Seil ø 2,5mm Ich danke jetzt schon vielmals🙂🙂
@emeliesolli57733 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great video and closeups on the suspension, now I understand better how they work!
@paultomlin70213 жыл бұрын
No problem
@easterstedman2363 жыл бұрын
I know Stodoys has the best woodworking plans.
@leslietaylor44583 жыл бұрын
I made one just like that from old branches from a hiking trail and paracord... very funny.. I even have footage of me leaning the "wrong way" kzfaq.infolMLrYEGdV5Q?feature=share
@leslietaylor44583 жыл бұрын
I just started expirementing with tensahedron stands (but from old tree branches), I didn't know you could only have 2 poles... been wanting to take my kids hammock camping but can never find proper spacing for 3 hammocks.. this just accelerates the possibilities even more... P.S. I got my own video of me "mousetrapping" in one of these on my channel
@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@davidachee19273 жыл бұрын
This is a huge money saver. You can make this out of new parts for less than fifty bucks, and it is way more portable than most other hammock hanging options.
@steves37603 жыл бұрын
Who couldn't relax listening to those robins...I've done a one tree hang by running my straps through the doors of my vehicle. While not pretty, it is doable. Nice video.
@DrinkTeaAndBreathe3 жыл бұрын
As a newcomer to hammocks, I really appreciated how you explained all the forces and compression involved. Great design! thank you :-)
@paultomlin70213 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@szabolcsgavaller99723 жыл бұрын
The 2 small eyes on loopalien are exclusively made for weight saving, you shouldn't load them. Yes loopaliens are massive for fixing a tarp, so I fix my whole hammock with them. For unsheathed dyneema the only way they wont slip is the clover hitch.
@davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul I am a little confused, well maybe a lot, did you rip the seams so that you had 70" long tubes or 60" tubes going across? Thanks
@JR_Taylor4 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to mKe one myself. What table cloth did you use?
@reddysoft4 жыл бұрын
Not bad, but you failed to pass the ridge line through the loop on the second side. Those lines will split apart as wide as your tree!
@luketoh14 жыл бұрын
Its already been done, but not for a big bloke. I think it was a lady who hammocks with 2 trekking poles.
@EASTARATAKI4 жыл бұрын
Your all shit camping in your own back yard. Yiu eore a bitch on naked and afraid
@brandontodd87034 жыл бұрын
*This was easy to set up and we used a sunnydaze brand hammock with it.▫ ▫>**allmy.tips/HammockStand?74v ** It seems pretty sturdy and we have not had an issue in the couple weeks we have had it up.*
@budharpey4 жыл бұрын
all you could do is.... haha so funny
@M4ST_4 жыл бұрын
Does the down leak out of the holes left by the thread?
@paultomlin70214 жыл бұрын
No. It is a common misconception that sewing makes "holes" in material, the needle pushes the weave aside as it passes thru. When you take a seam out, the weave is able to re-align itself.
@M4ST_4 жыл бұрын
@@paultomlin7021 Really? I did not know that. Thanks! I have a similar down blanket I got from Mountain Warehouse. My plan is to create channels by removing the stitching as you have done and then overfilling the channels with extra down.
@AlanAlanAlanDave4 жыл бұрын
All you need to do is ............ What? i'm working on a similar project but didn't think the height would be good enough to hang a hammock at the designed angle without it touching the ground. Interested to know what you where going to offer as a solution to the bowing of the poles.
@jeffmyers70625 жыл бұрын
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@dbug71335 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering if this was possible.. and low and behold.. you proved it is! Thanks for that! I can't wait to test this out myself. Cheers!
@jeffmyers70625 жыл бұрын
Those loop aliens SUCK unless you deploy them with a little more thought....check out my playlist on these...kzfaq.info/sun/PLmEWaiosy12cFfiDCscQbQciJY9qJgpAH
@howdydoody30204b5 жыл бұрын
Hi, Paul. Thanks for the new take on the fronkey. Since mossie season is upon us again, I need to be thinking about my net setup, but my comment today is about the loop aliens. I see in this video that you are apparently still using them. The first video I saw where you used them on your hammock was posted about three years ago. That prompted me to try it, especially after you helped me to understand how to use the darn things, and I like it. I am now using 2 aluminum aliens on my tarp ridge line, one aluminum one on my adjustable hammock ridge line, and 2 stainless steel ones on the hammock ends. I posted my new setup on Hammock Forums, and one person said he had used them for about a year but quit because he was seeing apparent compression damage on his line. Not sure at this point which versions he was using. In my short usage, I have noticed something similar. Now, that's not a major concern for me, because I am basically using 10' dogbones on each side, larks-headed onto my tree straps, and if I have to replace them once a year, that's not much of a bother or expense. Still, it is a concern and I would like to address it. Also, I am a bit concerned about how the sharp angles will affect the working strength of the Amsteel. So a couple of questions: 1. Have you been using them for the past 3 years or so, and what has been your experience in this regard? Any concerns? 2. Are you on Hammock Forums? If so, under what handle? Thanks for all of the help you have given to me and others.
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
I have been using stainless steel aliens since 2015. the only failure (which you can see on one of my videos) was slippage, and was user error. There are two flavours of Chinese steel aliens, I prefer the thicker, rounded ones, I can post up pictures to show the differences. I use then with both Amsteel and 1" dyneema. My username on HF is GadgetUK437, drop me a line and link me to your thread.
@howdydoody30204b5 жыл бұрын
@@paultomlin7021 Thanks. Here's the thread: www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/152977-Forget-the-Russians-I-ve-been-colluding-with-aliens As to your suggestion re the aliens, that's probably the key. If you could help in finding the better ones, I would be grateful, as I have done a ton of looking, and they all appear to be the same.
@rayngrace5 жыл бұрын
how "lighter" is this set up vs a turtledog stand? thanks for sharing
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
Well... for both types you can use similar spars, just different lengths. For the tensahedron you need four spars of between 2.4 and 3 metres long, that's a total of between 10 and 12 metres. For a turtledog you need 6 spars of 1.8 to 2.2 metres and a ridgepole of between 3 and 5 metres, that a total of between 14 and 18 metres. So, to answer your question, a tensahedron can be between 15 and 45 percent lighter than a turtledog.
@rayngrace5 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I'll have to find instruction in Crayons since I'm not good with text inductions at the usual forums
@howdydoody30204b5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I learned something new. I don't quite understand the double adjustment on the hammock. Wouldn't the strap adjustment be sufficient?
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
That is not the way I do things these days. It was a way of extending my shortish tree straps. Nowadays, all my hammocks have continuous loops on the ends with a steel loop alien larksheaded on. I either use 12 foot dyneema treestraps, like this, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/opuPZc6Zq6zbZZs.html or I use shorter tree straps extended with a 7/64" dogbone, like this, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gZiimNB-raqtcqM.html
@meandtheat55575 жыл бұрын
I am thru hiking the Appalachian trail starting Feb 15, 2019.... I am using loop aliens, ucm's, and whooped slings with 7/16 amsteel. Thanks for your input and I hope you continue putting out these videos. All secure in sector applesauce....lol my trailname
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
Good luck on the AT.
@GavTatu5 жыл бұрын
now that's what you call a jungle shirt mate !
@100bfriend5 жыл бұрын
I use shock cord no lacing, easy to put on when muddy
@100bfriend5 жыл бұрын
Ok nice idea if you have to stay in a shelter, like when your in the great Smokey mountains
@waynus20215 жыл бұрын
hey paul , watched a couple of your vids and they are great mate!! a couple of questions if I may? are the lengths on the foot end the same as the head end?? obviously your body weight needs to be head end biased to avoid collapse so would making one end shorter help?? also , could you post a close up picture of how you connected the corners please?? and finally are the wooden lengths heavy as I`m looking to make a tensahedron to take to a music festival next year and make our favourite tree a single anchor point and it`s a fair old stroll from the gates , thanks for any help given
@cradleygirl5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god when your hammock broke, maybe set your fire a little further next time .
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
Wow, look at the size of that pack for an overnighter! My pack, these days, is half the weight. Hadn't watched this for a while. It was the extreme slope that got me into hot water! I was far enough away... until I rolled down the slope.
@brianbassett43795 жыл бұрын
I own Loop Aliens too but did you know they are one of the heaviest options for guy lines and hanging a hammock. A purist would say that no hardware is needed at all, but I doubt that he is working with 1 mm lines and 60+-year-old eyes. I have found titanium loop aliens that weight more than the same aluminum model sold, odd. A titanium Split-Loop Alien would be great for a hammock rig if you use that sort of thing, strong enough to hold a someone trying to un-ass the hammock as fast as possible because they heard something in the middle of the night, and still reasonably light. But even the smallest aluminum Loops are too big for guy lines these days. Even if you still use water absorbent 550 cord or the millions of knock-offs (In Every Color that the Whacked Out Money Hungry world can produce) of "Para-cord". My guylines are down to 150 lb. closed looped spectra kite line now. I have enough rigged to set up every tarp, tent, and a couple masts all at the same time, while I am out flying stunt kites on the same line and can still carry them all in a single pocket. Using something like the loop alien would only make sense if a mico was made and I'm not sure even then that you could do it better Or lighter even in Titanium. I would bet that there are synthetic polymers that are lighter than titanium that would grab a 1 mm line just fine like line-loks, same with the Loop Alien but plastic is sexy like Ti. I did find a set of Alien Loops with the S backward on eBay once but the "ears" were the same size. I bet Disney wanted their cut.
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
Brian Bassett - my tarp guyline adjusters are either prusiks on 1mm Dyneema fishing line, or a version of lineloc that I got from Hong Kong (I think Dutchware do then now) that works on fine cord, I use a sheathed 1.5mm dyneema with those because the 1mm tends to saw through the plastic. The aluminium Chinese aliens I use on the ridgeline tie-outs are 3.5g and I use 1.2mm single braid dyneema fishing line with those, 4m on each end. They wrap up small and tick in a pocket at the ends of the tarp snakeskin. All my hammocks have a 10g stainless steel alien on their CLs, but I offset that massive weight by using 1.5g per foot dyneema tree straps that total 50g for the pair!! I did toy with using a Becket hitch, but got bored tying and untying for micro-adjustments.
@brianbassett43795 жыл бұрын
I find it weird working with line that is almost too small to handle and yet strong enough for heavy winds. I'd like to find a reflective sleeve for the loops anchored at the tent and at the pegs. I find that reflective lines are too much for me and ruin any flash photography. The Spider Web straps are about the lightest I have found also. I think that the Loop Alien is probably more useful than many other support hardware toys because it can also be used in more configurations than most of the others I have seen. They are all just too massive for what I need.
@blqysmg5 жыл бұрын
If you put a single stake under the apex of the two poles and run cord to each of the "ground end" of the poles, it will keep the poles from sliding just as well with half of the staking necessary. Using one of those "ground screws" you could connect the apex AND the two ground ends (three lines) to give a nice, firm foundation for that end of the hammock stand. A firm ridgeline to the tree makes this a strong, stable "one tree hang.' I've done this quite a few times in the last 25 years.
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
I like it!
@bandofbros81125 жыл бұрын
This looks like a great idea, you could even insert your sleeping bag in winter conditions.
@bandofbros81125 жыл бұрын
Did you make this yourself?
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
BandOfBros - yeah, it was just some scraps of silnylon. I made it as long as me and a bit wider, can use it as a groundsheet or a pack cover (the drawstring goes all the way around the perimeter. The pockets for the poles are about the length of the handles and about a foot apart. The straps for the sit pad are the length of your back away from the pole pockets.
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
There are a couple of smaller, commercial versions of the Jerry Chair, Mountainsmith Slingback, mountainsmith.com/slingback-chair.html Molly Mac Gear: 5-in-1 jerry Chair, www.outdoortrailgear.com/featured/5-in-1-jerry-chair/ and www.litesmith.com/qwikback-ul-chair/
@markhunt17665 жыл бұрын
I would love greater details on how you built these . are they on a Hammoçk forum ?
@paulk95324 жыл бұрын
He is. I found the thread here: www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/146184-Packable-Tensahedron-Stand Still lacking on details; no write up or anything.
@franciscovillalta90655 жыл бұрын
how did join the pieces of wood at the corners?
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
Francisco - I joined them with 4 door hinges, but hard joints like that are not ideal. Far better to use a flexible connection, drill holes in the ends of the poles and join then with a length of cord. This allows the joint to move, to find a stable position, that puts much less strain.on the joint.
@b2solutionsdotcom5 жыл бұрын
Paul, what’s your guess on the distance from the bottom of your tensa stand to the tree? Looks like you took 3-4 steps past the stand anchor points. Thanks
@paultomlin70215 жыл бұрын
Brian Blanton - the way I did it there is prolly not the best. I already knew where the feet needed to be (having already practiced it). If you were to do it in real life, I'd recommend starting by attaching your hammock to the tree, then to the apex of the poles. Only then would you site the bases of the poles, to give you a nice, slightly head down hammock position. Then would be the time to stake the pole feet down. The distance from the tree is best arrived at experimentally, in the way I just described, but it is going to be about half your ridgeline length.
@b2solutionsdotcom5 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, thanks. I'm working on a solution for sleeping by my jeep and this looks promising. Will be experimenting. If anything works I'll post a pic on the forum thread.
@billyjoedenny6 жыл бұрын
interesting paul , lets see what you come up with billy joe
@mrjsorr6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Your application of math, vectors and science was very informative. This is my go to video for building mine. I think I will use round closet rod poles (1 1/4"?) from THD for my tripod, bipod and monopod. I plan to try all three styles. Eliminating the beam is a godsend from the point of view of transporting the system. Thank you. From: a retired firefighter in FL.