People are still falling for free Steam gif cards as well, and that scam has been around for over 10 years now. So I don't think just because you call a scam basic and well known people shouldn't talk about it.

Good luck she is really fun to play

Probably he was bad when I posted that shorts back in s13

You can go with IE in crit build I even say that in my full video. I enjoy BT more because I don't find the dmg difference to be significant enough considering how much survive ability BT or GA gives over IE. By that time I am more worried about surviving the fights instead of having to deal more damage. Again BC in lethality same thing Bc helps your team as well and even with Bc you will have more than enough dmg to one shot someone while your spells are applying BC stacks as well. LDR might deal slightly more damage in some cases but it's not worth it in my eyes when you already deal enough dmg and you also become more tanky, also don't forget about BC passive. It's one of the best Graves item in the game. Movement speed, HP, armor pen and haste, it gives everything what Graves wants especially lethality Graves.

@@professorforest I'd rather have cleaver in a crit build because I have to get close to auto people than in a lethality build.

@@SirCrusher For crit where you heavily rely on your auto attacks LDR is way better. BC is better for lethality because it gives everything you need, a little bit of HP, movement speed, ability haste, and armor pen. You need all this because you gonna deal the most dmg with your abilities in a lethality build over your auto attacks.

@@professorforest your spells have a lot more range than your auto attacks, and if you're building lethality you're looking to one shot with them. Black cleaver's armor pen is not immediate since you need to stack it and its ability haste is much more suitable to a crit based build since you're gonna have longer fights than with a lethality build.

@@SirCrusher Ability haste is not suitable for crit builds at all you are building no items with ability haste when you are going for crit build lol. Your main damage will be your auto attacks and you need no haste for that. BC is better whenever you go lethality because of the reasons said above, but doesn't mean you have to go BC or any % pen item every game anyways. I much rather have less CD on my spells and cast them twice in a fight than being able to cast it once and then heavily rely on my auto attacks which aren't amazing since I have a really small amount of crit. You can build anything almost on Graves is not black or white as long as you keep these rules in mind, go for high dmg items with flat pen aka lethality which provide movement speed and ability haste whenever you go lethality. But if you go crit then obviously go for crit items because in crit builds your auto attacks will be your primary damage source. You don't need haste since you won't be relaying on your Q nor ult whenever you go crit. Also if you decided to go crit you will face a lot of opponents ideally with a lot of health and armor where % pen outscales flat pen aka lethality.

Rammus nem está entre os 20 caçadores mais banidos neste patch.

He was still two lvls above me and even tho he had 10 deaths a one shot is a one shot. But either way this is a 2 years old video so talking about Talon's strength is pointless anyways.

​@@professorforest no hate bro infact delete my comment after you read this to not bring negativity, but why are you talking about recent Talon Nerf with footage from 2 years ago? Unless KZfaq dropped me content from 2 years ago then mb but I was very confused.

@@AWPPERMoon1 KZfaq recommended my old short cause this short is from 2 years ago haha. I am not even playing talon jungle anymore so yeah. I know you didn't mean to hate comment so don't worry.

Haha sorry it's an old short so you can't

You can disagree but those were the best junglers in patch 14.11

@@professorforest Your english is great at least.

I am down to hear opinions, so enlighten me. Why do you think that tier list was bad?

Thank you for the feedback! I am not planning on streaming the game but most likely I will release more VODs to explain the actual jungle pathing as well.

@@professorforest please make a graves jg video with this build

I will as soon as I am going to have more free time I might be able to release one this weekend or next week.

It's an old tier list but I am going to release a tier list for patch 14.11 today

I am not sure if any of those supports macOS

Yes, it's very important to play ranked without anxiety and once you can treat ranked games like normals, still playing them seriously tho but less stressed. You can climb easily of course only with improvements, nice job.

I mean, I know that Dantes was trolling once with something like this, but I really hope that you are trolling as well and not genuinely believing what you just wrote here.

@@professorforest so the 10 bonus lp you get from 2 loses and 2 wins are ephermal?

I mean, their MMR will change just like their LP gains, and if they keep having a bad performance, they'll find themselves getting negative LP and making their climb way harder. Until they improve enough to consistently carry their team, this can go either way. Someone in bronze makes thousands of mistakes compared to someone in masters.

I am not sure how strong that build is especially since I made that short a long time ago. But give it a try and let me know.

@@professorforest oh it was in 2023, I thought it was made in 2024 XD

Yeah I am not sure what are hecarim mains building now days but I am planning on making new build guides. But it's hard because it would be nice if i vould have enough time to make one for every jungler. The problem with that riot changes items, champs too often so by the time i am done with like the 10th champ some builds already changed.

I love her as well but I only pick her when she is a good counter to the enemy team, but even then I feel like doesn't matter really how good of a game I have with her. Because my carries gonna decide the outcome of the game. She can be good and she works especially when the enemy team is jumping all the time, but I think she is more like a counter pick now. Maybe after some jungle changes in the future she comes back as a great pick.

@@professorforest funnily enough i kinda don't even care about enemy team and just always pick her 🤣 Although she is mostly considerated a counter pick and i really should care about enemy comps it was by being a poppy otp that i climbed out of silver and when i realized i was alredy emerald

Taliyah has a pretty good win rate overall, even below masters, and she is amazing in this jungle meta. She is one of the most-picked junglers right now for a reason. If someone plays her a bit, even if they are in emerald or plat, they are going to climb. Even though people in the lower ranks don't have the mechanics to pilot her properly, she is better and wins more games than some of the typical low-elo stomper champs like Nocturne. I can't place her B-tier below masters just because she is hard when she is clearly winning most of her games.

I think even after these changes we will buy youmuu's first. Something like stormrazor is so expensive and the damage is usually not even higher even after the buffs. Youmuu's into crit feels good tho. So definitely his build path will be slightly different. We will see more crit builds rather than lethality items. I have to test Stormrazor more but I am not convinced it's worth that extra gold compared to youmuu's. Either way I will release a build guide for him next week. Most likely youmuu's collector, LDR, Shieldbow, IE/BT will be his strongest build.

@@professorforest whats ur rank if i may ask i thats my first video watching from you

@@edinsmajtic8822 I am a master tier jungle main and been a Graves OTP mostly for the last couple of years.

I am not maining him this year but I used to play him a lot in the previous seasons especially s12 when I played mid lane as well. I would still much rather play with this skin than star guardian. I don't care which skin other people prefer at all.

True!

Well I made a build guide where I give examples with items for each scenario. Since this was more like just a reaction video to the build guide I made before this. In which people asked me which build to go each game. I didn't focus on the items since in the build guide I gave full build examples for each style. But this was made for season 13. If you haven't seen it already I made a build guide with item examples for season 14 as well.

Honestly he is pick to lose below masters

I mean it's situational just like 3 camp clear. It's not an every game thing obviously.

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yeah, happens my bad

It’s less consistent. You do this if you KNOW they are invading. If they also do a normal clear it’s suicide. This strategy is for when they are likely to invade, but you don’t have the information.

You can finish Red Blue Gromp by 2:30 just like how you would finish your first quadrant normally without a leash. Won't affect your clear speed if it's done correctly and you will be able to get to scuttle in time.

True, and the fact that everyone can do the bottom gank what only she could do didn't help her either.

@@professorforest yep very true

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​@@professorforest he says you show/ speak us no sense

Maybe he shouldn't comment under a tier list which I posted last year LMFAO

I managed to kill people with only two auto attacks yesterday so definitely worth trying out

I posted this tier list like in June or something so of course the meta was way different back then.

@@professorforest waiting for season 14 one then ;)

I will update you guys with each patch as I always do

this champ is overrated af