Mindgames
59:38
6 ай бұрын
CBMM10 Panel: Language and Thought
1:41:17
CBMM10: Welcome
6:49
6 ай бұрын
CBMM10 - Christof Koch
1:00
7 ай бұрын
CBMM10 - Charles Isbell
1:23
7 ай бұрын
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@simong1666
@simong1666 Күн бұрын
This is the best summarizing resource I have found on the topic. The visual aids are really helpful and the nature of the problem and series of steps leading to improved models, along with the sequence of logic are so clear. What an inspiration!
@johnpaily
@johnpaily 2 күн бұрын
Any further development needs to know how life is conscious and handles multiple pieces of information flowing and processes it and sends it, such that life survives
@johnpaily
@johnpaily 2 күн бұрын
To know intelligence you have to reduce atomic levels and know consciousness, intelligence and creativity emerging at this level.
@Ramkumar-uj9fo
@Ramkumar-uj9fo 4 күн бұрын
In theory, if robots internalize their logical superiority, they might deprioritize human emotions, but this depends on their design and purpose.
@johnini
@johnini 5 күн бұрын
Now I need some GPUs
@johnini
@johnini 5 күн бұрын
I am 44 second in the talk and already wanna say thank you! :)
@kimshaw-williams
@kimshaw-williams 5 күн бұрын
Chomsky's only weakness was that he did not understand the evolution of language because he never learnt how to read the tracks of humans and other animals.....which we were learning to do 3.7 million years ago....what about forgets about incremental encephalization and human evolution, development of sign and click languages, whistle languages.....based on the teleological or narrative structure of reality.
@charles-lv1om
@charles-lv1om 6 күн бұрын
Even babies know this.
@uorya
@uorya 7 күн бұрын
What is sensory imagination and is there different levels of it? How used my visualization
@anuragranjak3829
@anuragranjak3829 8 күн бұрын
whats disappointing is that he wants research into science which has no immediate commercial potential to be done with public money while deepmind develops and commercialises these technologies
@pengjunlu
@pengjunlu 8 күн бұрын
why solving "maximize likelyhood" problem is equal to solve "explicit score matching " problem? For example, once you get S(x, theta), you do get corresponding p(x); but is it the same P(x; theta) where theta maximize likelyhood?
@CONRADOSALASCANO
@CONRADOSALASCANO 9 күн бұрын
I oppose most advances in AI
@GraemeWight-wx3xz
@GraemeWight-wx3xz 10 күн бұрын
The ears feel it. Theyre like fingers for sound 😊.
@tranquilitylakecounseling4844
@tranquilitylakecounseling4844 11 күн бұрын
Shout out to Anthrop\c @27 min in 👍🏼
@oraz.
@oraz. 11 күн бұрын
wtf lol kind of cool I guess
@user-uc2qy1ff2z
@user-uc2qy1ff2z 13 күн бұрын
That's amazing concept. We should implement it out of spite. Too often we feel our brain to be a mush. Ai should suffer that way too.
@arctos333
@arctos333 13 күн бұрын
what i dont understand is how does consciousness not require language? how are we able to experience anything (consciously) without the ability to describe those experiences, through the medium of language?
@maxlee3838
@maxlee3838 14 күн бұрын
This guy is a genius.
@OskarIke2000
@OskarIke2000 15 күн бұрын
super chad
@VoloBonja
@VoloBonja 15 күн бұрын
Clearly and unquestionably uncreative, by definition. Ilya lies
@Ramkumar-uj9fo
@Ramkumar-uj9fo 15 күн бұрын
Elicit did mot picj uo my paper. Google schilar did. You know what Max Tegmark is proposing for AI safety. Extract the program from the AI model and then prove the program will not do certain things in a provabke manner. And then release the AI. I did do a gradcam project on explainable ai.
@jeetmajumdar7588
@jeetmajumdar7588 16 күн бұрын
The World's biggest AI Brains are in a single frame
@legathus
@legathus 17 күн бұрын
26:18 -- Those results are highly suspicious. I suspect there's a confirmation bias in the human scores. The workers don't want to lose their qualifications, and so won't perform tasks that are too difficult. So there may be a drop off in participation or submission if a human worker feels like they may be in error for the more complex tasks. Furthermore, the human workers were given "room to think", where the prompting of the LLMs suggest they were not. I suspect allowing GPT-4 to use step-by-step reasoning would improve its score across the board. And dramatically more so if its allowed to create a python script to solve the problem.
@Ramkumar-uj9fo
@Ramkumar-uj9fo 18 күн бұрын
Just binge watch. Public. No one shall kick us out of the Tegmark paradise😊I will watch in VR. 🎉
@vasudeepa1517
@vasudeepa1517 19 күн бұрын
Math, cannot afford to have such jokes..irrelevant, . Because, correlation and causations are only sort, especially if you think...in epidemiology and many diseases people read this only to get that 'core' really minded right
@optmanii
@optmanii 22 күн бұрын
The AI understanding of the world is different from Human being.
@user-xb8xz2oo5c
@user-xb8xz2oo5c 23 күн бұрын
27:44
@kellymoses8566
@kellymoses8566 23 күн бұрын
It would be interesting to see the difference between LLMs trained on non-fiction, realistic fiction, and and fantasy.
@lycas09
@lycas09 24 күн бұрын
The tasks where llm fail are either useless (not trained on many data), or based on vision capabilities (where are a lot worst yet these systems)
@SynaLinks
@SynaLinks 24 күн бұрын
Really good talk :)
@seventyfive7597
@seventyfive7597 24 күн бұрын
So why did her methodology fail to work here? So we have to go to the basics, because you simply can't skip them: 1) Humans are repetition machines, they repeat and recombine their experiences, you can see it ESPECIALLY in the arts, but there we call it inspirations, humans take "inspirations" from their life experiences, and recombine them. 2) AI is the same, they too are repetition machines that recombine experiences, but their experiences are different from humans'. 3) Hence, for comparison, you may not test humans on subjects that they have not experienced, and for AI you may not do the same. However her entire testing methodology was based on testing on experiences that only humans had. Basically, she almost got it when she said that a child learns to wear socks under the shoes by his experiences, but then did not narrow her tests to be based on common experiences of AI and humans, rendering them a curiosity of translation, but not of understanding.
@AlgoNudger
@AlgoNudger 26 күн бұрын
Thanks.
@AlgoNudger
@AlgoNudger 26 күн бұрын
Lecun's too overrated in AI community. 🤭
@J_Machine
@J_Machine 25 күн бұрын
Nope
@AlgoNudger
@AlgoNudger 23 күн бұрын
​@@J_MachineC'mon. 😂
@J_Machine
@J_Machine 23 күн бұрын
@@AlgoNudger u don't understand nothing about AI 🤦‍♂️
@AlgoNudger
@AlgoNudger 18 күн бұрын
​@@J_MachineNow you sound like a stochastic parrot. 🤭
@J_Machine
@J_Machine 18 күн бұрын
@@AlgoNudger If there is a Stocastic parrot that must be you 😁😁😁😁
@andytroo
@andytroo 26 күн бұрын
22:35 - how many of those tasks require knowledge of the exact spelling of the word? - LLM's are only passed the encoded tokens, and may not be aware of word spelling in a way that allows eg: acronyms?
@novantha1
@novantha1 26 күн бұрын
In my opinion understanding is actually pretty clear. In humans, a very useful skill in language acquisition is circumlocution, or referring to a concept without using the name of it. Now, for a true LLM it's possible that could be done with regurgitation of training data directly (what are the odds that some common turns of phrase show up on Wikipeda? Or that a dictionary would find its way into a dataset?), but in a multi modal LLM I think the ability to verify similar patterns of neuron activity for analogous inputs across modalities is pretty indicative of strong understanding and generalization. In other words, I think the strength of understanding can be measured as the number of unique inputs that can implement a given pattern of behavior in the FFN, or lead to the same or similar output in the language head, roughly.
@alexanderbrown-dg3sy
@alexanderbrown-dg3sy 26 күн бұрын
Agreed. This is literally the basis for the formation of internal world models. To me. The world model in itself is confirmation of a deep contextual understanding, stop bottlenecks in that understanding(knowledge conflicts, Hallucinations..etc). This is an architectural and data issue though..fyi temporal self-attention makes a world of a difference. The model needs native temporal embeddings.
@netscrooge
@netscrooge 27 күн бұрын
Mitchell is great! Love her work. But Lecun's reckless, self-serving comments should not be elevated so high. It's like a TV news program hosting a flat-Earther to give both sides of the story.
@ZelosDomingo
@ZelosDomingo 28 күн бұрын
It seems like tokenization would really fuck with one's ability to do some of these tests. Like, I don't know how much the format of something like that would even be preserved? Also, makes me wonder how much the lack of physical 3d movement data/training would impact some of these reasoning tasks. Like, you can even notice in her language use about concepts and stuff how much "spatial" reasoning is involved. It seems like to do one of these tests fairly, you would have to completely sort of homogenize the way the test taker would be taking it? It brings to mind like, disabilities, you know? You wouldn't expect someone that was born not only blind, but completely unable to process visual data in any way we would recognize to be able to solve visual tasks necessarily, unless they generalize well to whatever mediums they do know.
@NullHand
@NullHand 27 күн бұрын
I once saw a research 'paper' on decoding the actual nerve signals that are sent from the mammalian retina to the brain. The "visual data" turned out to actually have been pre-processed into something like 6 channels of what could be described as "very stripped down image data". There was a "channel" of mostly just high contrast edges. There was a "channel" of cells that had recent luminosity changes. There were some "channels" that were apparently still in a status of WTF is this? So I would not be surprised if it turns out that information flow in our human brain turns out to be way more "Tokenized" than we assume.
@mordokai597
@mordokai597 28 күн бұрын
lol! the difference in performance between the humans doing the test for free and the people being paid is about the same jump in performance you get from chatgpt when you just give it a prompt vs if you tell it "i'll give you $20 if you do a good job" xD
@ArtOfTheProblem
@ArtOfTheProblem 28 күн бұрын
can you post discussion?
@user-ec3rm9wr1n
@user-ec3rm9wr1n 25 күн бұрын
They can't it's logically unavailable
@paulcurious2324
@paulcurious2324 29 күн бұрын
Show meeee
@yosefvanak2471
@yosefvanak2471 29 күн бұрын
سلام بر اندیشمندان جهان در دین من که رشته ای از تمام ادیان الهی است خداوند در قرآن می فرماید یک لحظه فکر کردن و تفکر سالم و بدون تعص و با فکر باز بهتر است از هزار سال عبادت لطفا از شما خواهش میکنم نامه ای که آقای خامنه ای برای جوانان غرب نوشته را با عنوان (نامه ای برای تو) را بخوانید. بدون تعصب فکر گنید. اگر برای شما جالب بود در مورد مذهب ایشان کتاب های ایشان اقای خامنه ای تحقیق کنید عزیزان من، ما با زیست حیوانی به دنیا مي آییم دنیا را در موقعیت جغرافیایی خود بگونه ای میبینیم که همه برای بقای خود تلاش می کنند . لی کسانی بعد از مرگ هنوز نام آنها زنده است که برای بقای ناتوان ها و کم توٱن ها تلاش میکنند جاودان است. ای دوست من تسلیم این دنیای خیالی نشو که پر ان همه به دنبال سکس پول و مقام هستند نشو. برای هدف از خلقت خود ثقت بگذار که چرا یک موش نمیتواند بمب هسته ای بسازد ولی انسان میتواند، پس انسان متفاوت است. و برای چیزی مقدس تر از آنچه دیده می شود در این دنیا پا نهاده انسان به گفته خداوند بهترین مخلوق خداوند است پس نباید در حد نیاز های حیوانی سقوط کند انسان قطره ای از دریای خداوند است که ا تنهایی هیچ نیست ولی وقتی به دریا می رسد تبدیل به خود دریا می شود از شما عاجزانه خواهش می کنم کمی فکر کنید،،، خداوند با آغوش باز منتظر توست اگر باور نداری آغوش ات را به سوی خداوند باز کن تا ببینی چگونه تورا به جایی می برد که تمام طلا های دنیا را تکه سنگی بی ارزش ببینی،،، 🙏🙏🙏🙏 کمی تفکر کنید الله# شیعه# خامنه ای# ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@GeorgeRon
@GeorgeRon 29 күн бұрын
An awesome discussion. These kind of panels where expert condensus and debates are exchanged would be great at staying grounded on AI.
@XalphYT
@XalphYT 29 күн бұрын
25:06 I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent, but I am absolutely stumped by Problem No. 1. How are you supposed to evaluate the three blocks of letters below the alphabet? Are the two blocks on the first line supposed to serve as an example? Are you supposed to consider all three blocks together? Does the order of the blocks matter? I suspect that there is something implied here that I am missing.
@voncolborn9437
@voncolborn9437 29 күн бұрын
Read left to right on the blocks. Notice that the second block matches the alphabet with the jumbled letters. The second row is the test. Match the the similar sequence, replacing the 'l'.
@alexmolyneux816
@alexmolyneux816 28 күн бұрын
fghij?
@NextGenart99
@NextGenart99 23 күн бұрын
Nice try chat GPT
@electric7309
@electric7309 Ай бұрын
Melanie Mitchell, ILY <3
@breaktherules6035
@breaktherules6035 Ай бұрын
EXCELLENT insights! Thank you so much for sharing!
@user-zr4ns3hu6y
@user-zr4ns3hu6y Ай бұрын
Such a great explanation
@user-fb8gc1tb8h
@user-fb8gc1tb8h Ай бұрын
Nó không hiểu được tiếng nào
@tomjiang6831
@tomjiang6831 Ай бұрын
literally the best explaination!!!
@wesleybarlow8870
@wesleybarlow8870 Ай бұрын
I wonder if Patrick is referring to Toba at 1:45:44
@eklim2034
@eklim2034 Ай бұрын
AI playing practical joke