I really hope you guys come back to this. I love these episodes and have gone through them all a few times.
@user-je6ou4xh4mАй бұрын
Great list, awesome models.
@Supernaut32Ай бұрын
Good to see a positive take on my favourite army. One thing I will say though is I don't think the elven cloaks are that good. They only get the bonus when hiding behind terrain, not other models. So a wood elf warrior with banner can still be sniped from the back line.
@inspiredwon2670Ай бұрын
You both do an excellent job explaining everything. Cheers!
@JuanSebastianRamos2 ай бұрын
I was listening to this while my pinter is doing 15 mounted knights of dol amroth XD
@darchensol51122 ай бұрын
one thing i really disagree with was about the oathmaker, even against zero terror he isn't useless. having a fearless stand fast in a list where all your other heroes are only courage 4 (with low will and zero courage buffs) can matter hugely once you are broken. and the nature of dunland makes breaking pretty likely in most games. a great example of this can be viewed in this battle rep kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7KUZ7ektpyrd2Q.html
@yesmilord23503 ай бұрын
Love this long form faction deep dive. The algorithm did its job well today. Very happy to have found your channel. Keep up the good work.
@CapitanCorner4 ай бұрын
Shot correction: The mordor troll of the catapult is not unarmed. He can choose one of the weapons a normal mordor troll can have as his basic weapon: hand-and-ahalf sword, hammer or club.
@chrisburbridge24784 ай бұрын
You guys are literally my new green dragon please do more 🙏 ❤
@danielwielki34904 ай бұрын
You can always learn something new, thanks for the video👍
@armanvahedi89714 ай бұрын
Just watched all of the faction vids, please make more they are great!
@jeremypardee18954 ай бұрын
Great Work. Couldn't find the Ballista profile :( but other than that this was great.
@TrippyTheShroom5 ай бұрын
Starting an Iron Hills, just got the models in yesterday so hearing this info is super helpful. Very much appreciated guys.
@intothewestpodcast5 ай бұрын
Just found your content, please return with more episodes!
@shaunscott47735 ай бұрын
Amazing! Love this would love updates on how they have changed / the meta has changed for them.
@shaunscott47735 ай бұрын
Are you guys going to do Rivendell at some point? I like these long form videos 🙂. Thank you.
@jay-lf3jm5 ай бұрын
awesome video, definitely the most enjoyable breakdown of lothlorien I've seen! could you guys do an update on orophin?
@user-gn5eo7yv3u5 ай бұрын
i play 800p, thranduil, legolas, tauriel and 30 mirkwood rangers.... let me tell you, it is very hard to win games with them.😂 but i love how they look.
@michaeltheodorou24906 ай бұрын
Nice look at the army! But I would say maybe your looking at these armies in terms of tournaments were as some fun lists can be brought that are not the best! Like I never bother with march! Strike, strength heroics and shielding normal
@sebastiencarrieres88256 ай бұрын
I know Treebeard is the strongest, but for 50 points less, I fell Quickbeam actually is very nice. Extra movement usually comes handy in so many games.
@sebastiencarrieres88256 ай бұрын
I've never played them, but I feel the wood elves with throwing weapons would work better if they are part of the Gildor band to get +2 movement.
@sebastiencarrieres88256 ай бұрын
My biggest problem to bringing the court boys is that I don't like the models!
@BobSmith-ui1ok6 ай бұрын
Loved the break down
@FGCmtg6 ай бұрын
Just getting into MESBG, thanks!
@johnfalco-auxt25556 ай бұрын
Named characters are Minas Tirith’s primary ability. Makes thematic sense; MT greatest asset is its men
@johnfalco-auxt25556 ай бұрын
Thought you said Banner-mir and thought that made perfect sense for a banner wielding boromir
@user-gn5eo7yv3u5 ай бұрын
that's unironically what he's called in the mesbg community worldwide if he wields the banner.
@johnfalco-auxt25555 ай бұрын
Lol I wouldn't know. I'm a community of one here in Eastern United States. But I like it!
@user-gn5eo7yv3u5 ай бұрын
@@johnfalco-auxt2555 i was also a community of one here in southeast ireland for a while but i was able to infect more people with the mesbg fever and we are playing every week now. i hope you find some victims äääh opponents too. 🤞
@johnfalco-auxt25555 ай бұрын
😂😂 Cheers mate! Appreciate it!
@nintendobl00d7 ай бұрын
Need a Rohan episode!
@OGEETOMO7 ай бұрын
Great job lads hope you make some more of these.
@ralexy9998 ай бұрын
I feel like Boromir banner effect is way too strong. Giving +1F to himself is weird, how do you fight better while having to hold a giant flag ? And ALL Gondor troops being affected while rangers and fountain guards are already overused over regular warriors for having the better fight ? One way I would fix that, is that the effect would only affect Faramir and F3 troops (warriors, knights and veterans). So suddenly there is a good reason to play the Brothers duo since Faramir get to relevant F6 near his supportive brother and Osgiliath veterans become your F5 troops.
@ralexy9996 ай бұрын
They are described as the most disciplined soldier yes, that's why they have Bodyguard and the heaviest armor of all humans models. But between the veterans who followed Boromir during the Osguiliath campaign and the bodyguards who remains in Minas Tirith, is it really the already overused models in the army who should be the F5 option ? I doubt so And which troop exactly are you refering to ?
@user-gn5eo7yv3u5 ай бұрын
the dragon emperor does it even better🤫
@ralexy9995 ай бұрын
The dragon-emperor and his legion are a problem on their own@@user-gn5eo7yv3u
@TheLayawn9 ай бұрын
Rohan Lads should be called the wooden Horse army 😂
@tedarnoldmoore9 ай бұрын
the final list is way off on bow and model count you list it as 36 models and 16 bows but the list you present is only 28 models and 12 bows
@Archimead9 ай бұрын
Awesome podcast once again. Also Arnor when?
@123Jakeism9 ай бұрын
You guys are absolute legends. Love the chats, the breakdowns are great!
@adds1579 ай бұрын
Whens the rohan one coming?
@christopherrutterford58299 ай бұрын
So much more depth to lotr than appears on the surface. Recently got into mesbg after decades with 40k and Fantasy/aos. Chose Rohan as my faction. Can't wait to see the video on them. Keep up the good work guys.
@medburyminiatures96079 ай бұрын
when the aussie mesbg community needed them most, they reappeared
@wadehudson97769 ай бұрын
Perfect timing guys I’ve just started a Gondor army for a slow grow.
@andrewlemaire26369 ай бұрын
Dicebearers covering the best faction in Middle Earth?? LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
@lukesenyshyn48869 ай бұрын
Welcome back!!
@joeltimonen82689 ай бұрын
Yay, another episode! Here are some notes that I'm writing as I watch... Aragorn's banner effect isn't strictly better than having an actual banner. On one hand, this rule isn't turned off even if Aragorn is prone. On the other hand, it doesn't count as a banner for VPs in some Matched Play scenarios. Also, only models that are within the range can get the rerolls - for example, if a spear support is in range of Aragorn but the model they're supporting is not, only the spear support's die can be rerolled; actual banners would allow either die to be rerolled. (source: FAQ for the Rules Manual) Denethor and Aragorn can't be taken in the same army. As a side note, Aragorn can't be taken with Boromir (from Minas Tirith or the Fellowship) either. (source: FAQ for the Armies of the LotR)
@Peaty19929 ай бұрын
Welcome Back
@transmakaka9 ай бұрын
Hi, greate podcast, thank you! You guy mentioned that Boromir's banner could help with elves, but i dont see how - the banner boost fight value, not a duel roll. Gondor warriors with fight 4 and still cant match evles fight 5, and even more elite troops will suffer from the elves blade when they get fight 5 with banner. Am i correct?
@joeltimonen82689 ай бұрын
Getting a 1/3 chance to win a tied duel roll is a lot better than losing ties automatically. The elves are still more likely to win the duels (assuming the same number of dice on both sides).
@muesliman1009 ай бұрын
And shielding elves don't get to use their elven-made weapon so it helps more against cornered elves
@muesliman1009 ай бұрын
Oh, I think you missed that the Gondor elite warriors are F4 base and therefore become F5
@user-gn5eo7yv3u5 ай бұрын
rangers, fountain guard, citadel guard are all base f4 and get to f5 thanks to the banner. they usuallay hang out in the second rank supporting with spears and bringing that juicy f5 to the fight.
@skywalkersindar74639 ай бұрын
They're back!
@123Jakeism9 ай бұрын
Been looking for something like this channel for ages! Your descriptions of the Special rules etc are great!
@Crause88fin10 ай бұрын
I'm not a huge fan of MESBG as a game (pros and cons, but not the best game for me personally), but I do very much enjoy the models GW have pushed for dwarfs in LOTR. The models feel dorfy, the rules feel dorfy and the units can punch like a dorf. Mind, I haven't played Erebor but Moria, but it's still dorfiness.
@francescoromano492210 ай бұрын
boyz one thing to ask About Dain, if i charge one Orc with Dain and 2 Goat riders then call an heroic combat with Dain and then win the fight but kill the orc with the first attak of the goat riders do i activate dain s special rule about alwais charging?
@punchyMiddleEarth10 ай бұрын
She did it again! 🎉🎉🎉
@Peaty199211 ай бұрын
Hope you guys come back, these podcasts are actually the best Lotr podcasts.
@MrMintyfreshsmell11 ай бұрын
Delgamar is your extra reroll incase the banner roll fails. Reaver backed by a Spear, +banner, +Delgamar =5 dice on a duel roll. Plus, he's your heroic move battery. I personally think he's an auto include but maybe he hasn't worked out for you.
@SwordsandBrushes11 ай бұрын
Man these videos are really nice to have on whilst painting! i think its like my 4th one of the day lol Great video, it's nice to hear some insight on the Fiefdoms - i've got Imrahil and some skirted men to paint up soon for my force :)