KZfaq will allow this sort of thing to happen

I still watch on Odysee, that's my next platform to watch on today lol

bro wearing the 'dont extradite assange' shirt looooooool

This is super interesting! Thanks for signal boosting this issue. 🖖

its been bad since the beginning.

Interesting back and forth. I feel like the meeting-reality-where-it-is approach from Ladybird may have a higher chance of success than the cynicism and blanket negative judgment from the FUTO side

Whenever this browser is ready, paying a 5 dollar price for the "License" or whatever would be ok imo too. Seeing how much insane work and time is put into it, to also get something back and get some funds from the people as well... if it's something that is well done and does not lose itself like firefox did or the other ones that pretend but are basically the same scoobydoo enemy with a mask on. Clarification: I don't mean a subscription (please, don't lol) and also, you can remain independent if you have some income your way as well.

I disagree about keeping the web limited to websites. I like web apps, and I fully believe in the future they can reach parity with desktop apps in many common use cases.

Its the law of copyright that sucks. KZfaq have to play by that rules otherwise theyd be liable. So they are playing safe, because ridiculous amount of videos uploaded every minute. Checking everything is not trivial task

licences and copyright are only enforcible by people who can afford the time and money to enforce them AND win a war of attricion. It is a system based on guilty until proven innocent where they dont have to prove you are guilty, but you must prove your innocent. Most people are complacent and just forget about it as its too much trouble to fight.

Andreas <3

I appreciate how well reflected Andreas is. Take a look at 38:49 While I can see why Eron would want a browser that is simpler, faster and mainly for just displaying content, Andreas knows that many of Eron's takes regarding the browser landscape today are not going to change due to the many different use cases of the web. Andreas knows that the Ladybird browser would not have a good adoption potential if it went against the stream like this.

Thanks folks, this was informative

Team KZfaq is a bot, actually. That's why it just gave you canned responses. Try giving it a Turing test and it will fail.

Regarding youtube being "scared to be involved." That's their PR machine in action. The actual DMCA process would make them less involved than they are now. What they use instead, both for their report system and the content system, is a lot more involved and puts them outside the expected DMCA process. It may actually breach the requires of the DMCA act itself too. But, their ad hoc system allows for them to profit regardless of any legality or relation to who actually owns the copyright. It's not just fair use either. For an example, see a few weeks back that Ghost Data (musician) had all their music, which they created and own, claimed through a random third party using the content claim system (wasn't a matching ID match, they were just able to claim all his work as a topic). And now on top of that, just a few days ago KZfaq has also claimed their channel is reused content, even though it's all original work.

KZfaq and Google allow illegal gambling, malware distribution, call center scam ads, and cryptocurrency scams. They don't take them down, no matter how many times you report them. The whole system and Google is broken!

YT is in a tough spot here. They have to take copyright claims seriously because they could be liable if something gets through/not addressed and lawsuits are expensive. Therefore they favor that person filing a claim and dont have the resources to determine whether content is truly offending. Determination of whether content is truly offending is usually reserved for lawyers in a suit, KZfaq making these determination also increases their liability. I think the solution has to come in the form of law in making it so courts can more easily discourage copyright trolling.

Maybe in 5 years we’ll be able to have an AI go over a video to analyse it for fair use. Of all the jobs AI scan replace, lawyers is the only thing that’s actually a good thing.

Yeah exiftool!

I am currently fighting someone for preservation of Creative Commons BY-SA 4.0 license agreement that they suddenly revoked and now they want full copyright protection. This is not allowed under CC BY-SA 4.0. Content ID has labeled such content as copyrighted, and the creator is now threatening me with a copyright strike. If they proceed with that, I will pursue in the full letter of enforcement law as defined by relevant revocations of copyrights by the content creator as defined by CC BY-SA 4.0. Keep fighting the good fight Futo!

With a little bit more time and effort, why not upload to multiple platforms. Even some that don't pay as much, it all adds up and also gives more chance for eyes on your content. Also if one platform gets too strict, at least your content is still out there for people to still see.

17:18 No, not they aren't.

Happened with mine a few years back with a parking company here in the UK. After my vid was up for a year pointing out their security issues with their site, they put a strike on my vid. KZfaq wouldn't reject their clear false claim so I had to just wait for the strike to expire. I put the video up on Odysee instead.

KZfaq doesn't care they just want big $$$. Small creators are an annoyance to them.

Seems like this would be an opportunity for an ambulance chaser lawyer to get a anti-bully subscription service. Smaller channels pay the protection fee, and then when frivolous claims happen, this legal firm sends legal cease and desist letters and other threats to the trolls. Get a couple default judgments and small claims court since the troll doesn't show up and then you can get the money back from KZfaq showing the judgment saying "hey, they lost. give us our money."

I think the solution is that KZfaq should charge a fee to make a claim. If the claim turns out to be valid then the claimant gets their money back. If they lose then KZfaq keeps the money. There could also be a process to skip having to pay fees if you either go through some verification process to prove you are who you say you are, or if you are able to submit some sort of verifiable proof that you are in fact intending to take this to court.

Thank You for GrayJay - i must finally test how it works :)

So essentially KZfaq is ebabling scammers to steal? Is this correct?

WOW!!!!!!!! ANOTHER BROWSER WRITTEN IN C++!!! LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

29:42 Very silly, doing the same shit and expecting a positive outcome.

Ladybird is in Nix package repository. I just tried it, but it kept crashing, never managed to load any pages. Regardless, I donated some €, maybe it works next time I try.

I hope one day I will be able to afford to live somewhere I don't have to drive (I can't really, without meds that I don't like to take), provide for my family, and not have to work for one of these companies. In the U.S., places like this are very expensive.

You know it's pre-alpha when the top of the build instructions show how easy it is to run with gdb haha

Hope you doing well and staying healthy, Andreas.

Ladybird is good for humanty and Great conversation

Andreas is awesome, and FUTO is great for their no nonsense approach to righting the wrongs of the hijacked OSS movement. FUTO gets it right, and it really matters.

Ladybird looks promising. I will definitely consider donating to the project. This is a very important project.

FUTO has made me realise the importance of paying for the FOSS that we use and benefit from. I'm using FUTO keyboard and have paid for it. And looking to supporting more open source projects. We need to be part of the change we want and nothing is free.

Some smart happening here esp loved your comments about hating browsers and considering that there could be a browser that does less and that would be an opportunity

It's illegal in the US to modify a native app to add something like an ad blocker, so things like uBlock or userscripts can never be a thing in the mobile world. PWAs being just websites make it trivial to mod them, so they can be more convenient in certain situations.

The interviewer is not smart enough to interview Andreas.

Did he just compare Google to drug dealers??? What??? 😂😂

I hope this new browser engine takes off 🚀

AwesomeKling is such a treasure. As for the "firefox knowing they aren't winning", I think for most people the battle was getting people off of internet explorer. Technical people continued to use firefox, because rendering speed never mattered for the documentation websites we spent all of our time on, but the ability to open 300 tabs did (or buffers rather than tabs, for us Conkeror users).

I want Ladybird to do well, but not only crhome exists. Sure mozilla is not perfect and they do get funding form google , but the browser itself is independent from chrome.

PWAs are included my workflow,i have example gmail, youtube, feedly sms, teams etc on pwa mode on my edge in my linux system, please support pwa!

Futo stands for Fuck You Technical Overlords

I'm no software developer, but this discussion on the philosophical differences in approaching the same landscape with the same end-goal is very fascinating! 😁 If only I'd gotten into Linux sooner... then maybe I'd have chosen a path as a programmer and actually been able to contribute something to this sphere. The best I can hope to contribute right now is a little telemetry and a few pennies. 😅

Bring back Netscape Navigator Or make your own, I want to be less dependent on Google for things.

41:19 this is the gemini protocol. it already exists, and nobody uses it except for bitter nerds