I love Donna, but I alway felt Amy was the perfect fit for Josh.

What season and episode?

Every time I hear Tori Amos 's I don't like Mondays. I begin to cry recalling this episode. If only our next president could have this kind of presence and thought in his speeches. After Trump and Biden we desperately need it.

Wonder if it's too late to have Martin Sheen put on the ballot...

I lived in California on 9/11, and at about 2pm a group of my friends went down to the Red Cross to donate blood. The line was IMMENSE, and though the wait was long, NOBODY was short tempered. We shared food and drinks, played cards, and talked to our neighbors. At about 4 a spokesperson for the Red Cross came out and told us that they were going to have to shut down, because the volume of donations that day had depleted the Red Cross’s supplies for the entire region! That blew my mind! Before the dust had literally settled in NY, 3000 miles away, Americans had overwhelmed the Red Cross! What I love most about this scene is that it is NOT fictional. The storyline is, but the inspiration behind it happens all the time.

I want my President to be 100% just like this. To not only say the right thing but to feel heart and soul and mind what he or she is saying. For this year's Presidential election, i vote we write in a fourth choice -- President Jeb Bartlett ❤

Amy doesn't come off great in this scene. She's obviously in a serious relationship with what's his name, but she screwing around with Josh.

This reminds me of October the 7th.

2:29 that smile could end wars

The Song “I don’t like Mondays” was written by an Irish band, The Boomtown Rats. It’s about a US school shooting in 1979, when asked why she did it, the shooter said it was become she didn’t like Mondays

In my opinion, this is second ONLY to Bartlett's 'rant to god' in Two Cathedrals. Martin Sheen is magnificent in this scene and the writing is out of this world. The whole sequence is perfection. A great moment in tv history.

A bit Ironic there was a time in tv film music & reality we could no matter politics religion or race come together in tragedies whether man made or natural & yet in clearly in the last 3 years maybe 4 it's clear we no longer can, even in cases of clear inhuman barbaric cowardly acts or crimes or events. I mean we use to be able to all democrat or republican be able to define a terrorist act especially against civilians now the left ignores some & calls for others openly & without fear.

Years after this series ended, I still remember scenes with speeches such as this one. It's hard to think of a speech by any of the last half dozen or so US Presidents that is as powerfully moving as what we view here. It's a shame that the amazingly talented script writers from programs such as West Wing don't lend their skills to assist a President or a Presidential candidate whose agenda they support.

Great scene, but the call came one second after the door closed. Amy couldn't possibly have called him that quickly.

Someone may have already mentioned this, but a part of that speech is “borrowed” from Lerner and Loewe’s CAMELOT. “This is the day of King Arthur, and we reach for the stars. This is the day of King Arthur, and violence is not strength and compassion is not weakness. We are civilized!” Aaron Sorkin was a musical theater major at Syracuse University, so he undoubtedly would have known this. Camelot would also play a major part in The Newsroom a few years later.

One of the finest segments of one of the finest shows ever put on TV in the history of the medium..

IMHO, Mary-Louise Parker is proof that many women can/do look better after 30. ☮

dramatizing this to show future pipe bomb makers how much attention they'll get was not a good idea

Incredible.

Bless you, Sir, for including Leo's phone call.

How is it that Aaron Sorkin wound up writing scripts in Hollywood instead of speeches in Washington DC. “The streets of heaven are crowded with angels.” Wow!

This is the best scene in the whole series.

I have to smile when she says "Kennison Hawkeyes." I was a student at the University of Iowa at the time this episode aired, which of course are the Hawkeyes and a Big Ten school. Cedar Rapids is 30 minutes from Iowa City. Sorkin could have just written "Iowa Hawkeyes", no one would have mistaken this for a real story.

I miss the time in America when tragedies would actually cause everyday people to stop in the tracks. Now we just walk on by...

The speech is great but I really like the last bit, where Ron Silver asks Rob Lowe when he wrote the last part. When he says in the car, Silver just says "Freak." Mad respect.

“The streets of Heaven are too crowded with Angels tonight.”

Isn’t it central daylight time, not central savings time?

Cedar Rapids Iowa is my hometown This always gets to me.

So enjoyable to view video with voice almost, not really synched. Did you let a 3 year old public this?

Amy's actions in this scene are borderline sociopathic. What kind of diseased maniac shows up at an ex's home at 5am just to torment them?

02:48 "Everytime we think we have measured our capacity to meet a challenge, we look up and are reminded that that capacity may well be limitless. This is a time for American heroes, we will do what is hard..." The West Wing "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard." President John F. Kennedy, Texas, September 12 1962

Even though I’m an atheist, during times of mass tragedy such as school shootings or bombings, I’d much rather hear “the streets of heaven are too crowded with angels tonight” than “thoughts and prayers.”

Bruno: When did he write that last part? Sam: In the car. Bruno: ... Bruno: Freak.

'Josh Im going to stop you right there ok?"

It is 5 AM and not only Leo is working already but also Margaret...!

Brilliant pairing of a background song with one of the most powerful scenes in television history.

Love this scene but it's another example of a miss with the background song for me

TWW, a period propaganda tale perpetuating the lie of a globally good, noble America. America's hands at that particular time of fable was already -- post-Vietnam -- dripping with blood, from the CIA-initiated, democracy-slaughtering coups throughout South America to WDC's (still actively financed and supplied) ZOG-endorsed, genocidal ethnic cleansing of occupied Palestine! This episode blindly denies why so many of America's chickens are perpetually coming back home to roost. It's also why we keep making the same international mistakes and expecting different results. The Ukraine's 2014 coup and it's ongoing aftermath with Russia perpetuates our insanity.

"I don't like mondays" - the words of the first school shooter in USA.

I cried when I saw this, I am so sad at the inhumanity toward each other

And today, June of 2022, we call thirty dead from a psycho just another Wednesday.

Obviously here after yesterday, 5/24/2022, with another elementary school shooting where at least 20 kids are dead...

Returning to this the day after the Texas school shooting in Uvalde and it still rings true. But their capacity to change is no longer being met, gun laws remain the same.

The song is what gets me. Its a direct quote from the perpetrator of the Cleveland Elementary School shooting. The original is by the boomtown rats. It never made it big in the US, but it was number one in the UK for a month. Just the pain and the despair in the refrain. The kid who did it lived across the road from an elementary school, and fired upon the playground as people were arriving. Killing both the school principle and custodian. By some *miracle*, the 8 children she shot all survived their injuries. The girl in question was 16. Both she and her father slept on a single mattress on the living room floor in a house strewn with empty beer bottles. She'd tried to seek psychiatric help and been refused by her father. The summer before, she'd been arrested for shooting people out the window with a BB gun. Her probation officer for this offense said she needed psychiatric help and treatment for depression. Her father refused, and bought her a rifle for Christmas: She herself said she thought he wanted her to use it on herself. In 2001 she finally admitted her father had sexually abused her. She was charged as an adult, and sentenced to life in prison, the day she turned 18. After 25 years in prison, she was refused parol, on the grounds that she had committed selfharm four years earlier. The self harm consisted of carving the words "Unforgiven" and "Alone" into her skin. As its later said in this episode, nobody is born wanting to do this kind of thing. Nobody. It doesn't happen. Everytime I see a kid guilty of some appalling crime, my heart breaks because it means they were failed. They were failed by the people who should have helped t hem, long before they became capable of that. I can't imagine living that kind of life. I imagine those kids. I imagine the kids she tried to kill. The teachers she killed. Their families. And I think of how many opportunities there must have been throughout the years where some compassion, some mercy, some love might have been shown that could have averted some a calamity. Instead you have a broken, ruined person, and dozens of lives destroyed. And more than anything, I think, God. How is it possible that wasn't the moment that people said "okay, we need to change things." That that wasn't the year we look at the way that American society changed for good? There are so many people people out there, every single day. And we don't notice until they do something so appalling that we can punish them as adults and absolve ourselves and society of any possible responsibility or blame for not doing something sooner. Its just so... wrong. Its barbaric. The fact that its even possible for a child to do something like that, shows a complete breakdown of society. The fact that it happens time after time, again and again, reveals the soul of a society that is fine with punishing the guilty, but refuses to help the innocent. Its almost sacrilegious.

I don't actually ship Josh with anybody, but I REALLY don't ship him with Amy. That said, I frickin love Amy. But I would pair her with *Matt Santos* before I'd pair her with Josh lol. She and Josh shared way too many flaws. I really fun but know who I'd pair her with tbh. Her character isn't about that for me.

Still gives me chills when I hear the speech.

The three of them standing there watching the news and President Bartlet speaking in the next moment gets me every time.

What is so sad is that many people don't even stop to listen to information about things like this anymore.

Why can't we have TV like that now? Why can't we be inspired by moving, well-crafted words that elevate our minds and remind us that we can all be patriots and perhaps even heroes?

And the streets of heaven are too crowded with Ukranian angels these nights. RIP Lets reach for the stars...