Ideally love much of his philosophy and his discussions on virtue but like many he's a little too extreme and idealistic. I also admire Socrates and Jesus... I think the three of them would have had great debates and agreed on a lot more than we suspect
@tavish469919 күн бұрын
the older i get the more i move twoards the templar point of view the assassins seem rather ignoorant and childish to me
@timboslice553120 күн бұрын
very nice
@hamaguitar27 күн бұрын
The templars are like Nazis, they say they want want "freedom" but they seek for control, who are you to decide what order is or how should others live by obeying your rules? Assassins on the other hand leave it to you to decide.
@hamaguitar27 күн бұрын
When the creed was corrupted, Altair did not abandoned it, he fixed it.
@friedrichmyers29 күн бұрын
Templars are good for running the society. Bad templars are kept in check by the Assassins, mostly. Both must exist.
@Strictly_JakeАй бұрын
I don't get it. There is objective truth
@seanberubeАй бұрын
I agree! I also believe objective truth exists, but the tenets of the creed deny it - "nothing is true, everything is permitted"
@Strictly_JakeАй бұрын
@@seanberube that's why I don't understand the sentiment. They say that, yet they have hierarchies. When the first protagonist learned this, it turned him into a monster and he violated the creed. Shay also struggled with this concept due to the hypocrisy it creates, he sought purpose and order instead. I don't know what they are trying to tell me
@seanberubeАй бұрын
@@Strictly_Jake That's exactly how I feel! Hence my critique that their creed contradicts itself and thus becomes meaningless. My personal take is that the best philosophy for life lies between the tension of both the assassins and the templars. Assassins love freedom but deny truth and thus create chaos. Templars acknowledge truth but deny freedom, thus creating tyrannical order Within this tension of chaos and order lies the optimal balance of a good life philosophy grounded in truth. Funny enough, in real life I think the Founding Fathers touched on this solution in the Declaration of Independence Their ideal of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness is about respecting individual freedom, based off a recognition of human rights rooted in natural law (objective truth).
@Strictly_Jake29 күн бұрын
@@seanberube what I don't understand is how the assassins can justify not telling the public the truth. They have more than enough evidence to expose everything, but both factions depend on secrecy
@phatphox79Ай бұрын
Haytham Kenway said it best, "We require no creed. No indoctrination by desperate old men. All we need is that the world be as it is. And THIS is why the Templars will never be destroyed"
@seanberubeАй бұрын
100% They seek to ground their philosophy in natural law (unsuccessfully, I'd say) but their recognition of truth allows for more stability than the moral relativism of the assassins
@BgChf-dg5lvАй бұрын
This is pretty thought provoking but I feel you forgot about the first tenet. Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent. Also, I’ll admit their maxim is up for interpretation usually. But often I hear one character think it means they can do whatever they want and immediately get corrected by a senior member. Also, for a group that promotes freedom of ideals, wouldn’t it be following their natural tendencies to have different but still good at its core values?
@seanberubeАй бұрын
That's the heart of my critique is the creed is itself a contradiction and therefore loses meaning. Nothing is true everything is permitted contradicts "stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent" You have to choose 1. Is nothing true and everything REALLY permitted? or 2. Some things are true and NOT everything is permitted (say, murdering the innocent) But the two can't coexist at the same time!
@obviouslyurnotagolfer148Ай бұрын
Not to be unkind, but you dont understand Nietzsche very well. Dont give up though hes extremely hard to truly understand. I give you props for your attempt.
@dandavis4306Ай бұрын
Most useless comment on here
@radroatch11 күн бұрын
@@dandavis4306 The guy is right. This is a not a good reading of Nietzsche. For those that don't see that, bring awareness to it is quite helpful.
@drduanemillerАй бұрын
Really good. Would have liked your thoughts on the meaning of the name, East of Eden. It is where Can and Abel went to offer sacrifices to God, since they could not longer enter Eden itself.
@VeteransoloАй бұрын
The assassins are worse than the Templars because of these main reasons, They preach of free will, yet they kill anyone who they don't follow them, They preach of peace, yet they kill for it, They preach of pacifism, yet they are quick to violence, They preach of freedom yet they want to control everything, There are no good assassins or bad Templars, You can clearly see in AC1, AC Rogue and AC Unity that the assassins are not the good guys and that only specific individuals like Altair, Shay and Francois de la Serre that they were sincerely good, De la Serre wanted to make peace with the assassins yet he was killed my the mentor of Arno because of his hypocritical nature, all the assassins followed Achilles blindly and fanatically without questioning his methods while they call the Templars control freaks, and branded Shay as a traitor for having his own way of thinking, and irony of free will with the assassins. Altair's master was an assassin master who was a control freakthe same thing he blamed the Templars, But really, if i had the choice, i would join the Templars, mostly because of Shay and Haytham. And De la Serre.
@Manueldesapego2 ай бұрын
Yessss
@kilvapkram43022 ай бұрын
"Childish innocence" my ass? He's a tall for his age(get into bars) teenager who will con family/friends for money and he's horny,............................................the end? Entitlement baby,....private school,...give me money and a hooker? Terrible book? GNR lyrics are brilliant?(Cranked up/medical marijuana encouraged?) Ceskoslovenska.
@CommonSwense2 ай бұрын
The death of Tom Hamilton is what kills me.
@thomasshannon2315Ай бұрын
It kills myself.
@brunoactis11042 ай бұрын
This is kind of Incomplete just as the writing in the games is. The series should really be more political in the sense that they only try to antagonize a fictional organization, but then the Assassins don't oppose organizations such as monarchies or the church, whe these have often been just as bad or worse. And it's very obvious this is exclusively due to the writers not wanting to be the slightest political.
@dabitz61673 ай бұрын
He got high on his own supply...
@seanberube3 ай бұрын
One of the cardinal rules to never break...
@cliquefrfr3 ай бұрын
goated video
@seanberube3 ай бұрын
appreciate it!
@peterland28243 ай бұрын
Well done video. Not too much blah blah narcoleptic intro. Straight to the content and in understandable terms. I'll look onto more of your videos..
@seanberube3 ай бұрын
Thanks Peter! I appreciate the kind word
@Andre-qo5ek3 ай бұрын
His Name is Robert Paulson, His Name is Robert Paulson, His Name is Robert Paulson
@kilvapkram43022 ай бұрын
Her name is Teresa Kovach,her name is Teresa Kovach,her name is Teresa Kovach,...............Pocatello Idaho? Dobre noche. Ceskoslovenska.
@Irishtunes4 ай бұрын
Regurgitated drivel.
@John_Montgomery4 ай бұрын
that was a good analysis ...
@seanberube4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jeromyrutter7295 ай бұрын
assassin philosophy tends to revolve around democracy. that idea is that there is no OBJECTIVE good. anarchy is not the chaos people believe it to be. is simply means "no rulers" implying that what is good or the laws are determined through consensus, not an authority figure. hence Altair "laws are not determined by divinity, but reason". another way of seeing it is through David Hume's is/ought problem. what is does not determine what ought to be by logic alone. it requires values from which judgements are made and reason justifies....or questions. that the two are the same is denied in AC3 when Connor is given a his name by Achilles "what's true and what IS aren't always the same". where connor naturally disregards racism, for example, Achilles points out that minorities are treated differently. democracies tend to support values like equality, while other forms, like feudalism, tend to support hierarchies. anarchism is against unjustified hierarchies. when power is shared, it's no longer about the ruler and the ruled.
@casquinha1325 ай бұрын
He wasn't the most brilliant nor a genious.
@bradleysullivan9475 ай бұрын
so this was just incredible.
@seanberube5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jojocasimir11185 ай бұрын
Playin this game since I was 11 I question both sides one is fighting for free will but realizing the older I get that free will is a invitation to chaos An majority who join the creed agree ppl who wants revenge on the Templars for killing they parents and they want justice and some of them have kids who they train an tell them the reason they fight the Templars is to stop them for destroying the world but in reality they want to guide us to better
@cherrie18905 ай бұрын
I'm so very happy you read these books. He also did a biblical series on KZfaq that are phenomenal. Maps of Meaning is too dense for kindle reading. Happy you got up and ended up having a great day!
@seanberube5 ай бұрын
I LOVE his Genesis lectures! They were the beginning of me discovering my own "hero's journey" haha
@joelskutch50025 ай бұрын
Randomly came across this and happy I did. Very good video
@seanberube5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Joel!
@jerryhayes94975 ай бұрын
Sounds like you are proposing Pascal's Wager. If by "truth" you actually mean god , then it's deffo Pascal's Wager. Live your life as if there is a "truth" and if you're wrong then at least you haven't wasted your life in existential dread... Am I reading you right??
@seanberube5 ай бұрын
That's basically it! The only addendum I'd add is that truthful being should lead to joy too So Pascal's Wager doesn't make sense if your beliefs are making you miserable. That said, I struggle to see where you ground an objective sense of goodness without the metaphysical
@jerryhayes94975 ай бұрын
@@seanberube Pascal's Wager is total bollocks... If you can't demonstrate this god\truthful being then you're simply deluding yourself.... Religion is a con trick that plays on your after death fears
@a_hidden_one5 ай бұрын
a beautiful deep dive. ive studied the creed for years now. you barely scraped the surface of the philosophy
@seanberube5 ай бұрын
Thanks! And yes, that's what's so rewarding. There's so much depth and probably no end to it
@a_hidden_one5 ай бұрын
You learn new ways to interpret it every time you ask someone theirs. It's truly one of the most beautiful philosophies ever crafted
@TH3F4LC0Nx6 ай бұрын
I do like Dostoyevsky but he's wrong about capital punishment. To "kill for murder" is not an immeasurably greater evil than the crime itself. Justice is a scales after all, and scales can only be balanced with commensurate deprivations. And really I don't understand how someone as passionately Christian as him came to the "capital punishment is wrong" outlook when the Bible is one of the most pro-death penalty books ever written.
@johnbruceleonard37376 ай бұрын
I think the answer to why Dostoevsky thought the way he did is to be found in his experience as a man standing for capital punishment. And it should be remembered that he was put up for a political crime, not the crime of murder; capital punishment was far, far more general in the past. I believe his contrast of the death penalty with murder during a crime has to be understood in light of his grasp of psychology. There is something extraordinarily cold and mechanical about the death penalty.
@laniakeaband3696 ай бұрын
You make great videos
@israaabdi47366 ай бұрын
loved this.
@seanberube6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@possum10936 ай бұрын
thank u man this is one of the best videos I've seen in a long while
@seanberube6 ай бұрын
Thanks, and glad you enjoyed it!!
@hellokittyscoochie20906 ай бұрын
I personally feel the show takes a different approach overall; not being nihilism but as a just surface level look it can preach that although everyone is different there will always be a struggle in life and there are different ways to cope. The main story follows alongside bojack who was abused by his parents and that touches on the abuse cycle that the mother went through beforehand and this leads to bojack later breaking this cycle while caring for his sister penny as if it were his own daughter but this abuse carries on with himself, he self medicates with alcohol, drugs and partying and he knows he is not a "good guy" just as the audience and the other charectars know but his journey of him getting help and failing brings a touch of reality to the show which a lot of people felt touched with. A majority of the other charecters know of bojacks problems and in turn try to help him and in the end realise that he has to help himself: some charectars even cutting him off after realising that he wasnt helping their mental health with his self destructive cycle such as diane once she started anti depressants and finally felt happy with life able to write again and not being scared of the weight she gained from the medication. In no way was the show to promote this nihilistic cycle but it is a show of irony and as you mentioned serious topics that i feel try to dismantle this lifestyle while showcasing that there is hope and change and people are better suited to others and there is right and wrong but i think the most important message of the show was how your actions impact others. Despite the contrast of opinions I did enjoy this video and hearing a different view on my favourite show as it felt refreshing.
@seanberube6 ай бұрын
I’d say your comment exemplifies why the show is so incredible. Ignoring the philosophical abstractions, it’s remarkably powerful in exploring deep rooted themes related to trauma, abuse, and coping mechanisms. It’s so vividly human, so hilarious, and informative all at the same time, and how the writers struck this balance is quite mind blowing to me
@kalibayala66226 ай бұрын
Hey man love what you're trying to do with your channel, but if you're open to constructive criticism I think you have a very surface-level understanding of Camus' Nihilism and the show. The idea that life has no inherent meaning (the absurd) is fundamental in the philosophy and the show, but the conclusion therefore isn't to give up due to the struggles of living instead find contentment in that struggle. The acknowledgment of the absurd without the attempt to find your own enjoyment/meaning in life is passive Nihilism, and it's just as depressing and destructive as you describe. The only character that struggles with this passive Nihilism is BoJack Horseman, and the show makes it clear that he is fucking miserable. BoJack is in an awful place between a character like Peanut Butter who simply doesn't recognize the absurd so isn't hopeless characters like Todd is completely happy to merely try and fail at everything in life and characters like Princess Caroline who despite the trauma finds meaning in family through the hardship of having 5 miscarriages. BoJack isn't able to define what makes him happy since he's too attached to the past, distracts himself with drugs, and self-sabotages. I find your video reductive to the show's message that fulfillment and happiness are possible. It's you who has to consistently work, search, and create it since what makes one person happy won't make you happy since life has no inherent meaning. Either way brother wish you the best of luck and hope nothing but the best.
@seanberube6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind and insightful reply! I suppose my biggest questions to your response are: Where does the show say you ought to find contentment and live meaningfully, and why should you do so if life is meaningless anyways? Why is that moral obligation not entirely meaningless? As for the non BoJack characters, though subtle, I'd argue against their happiness. For instance Mr. Peanut Butter's life philosophy is: "The universe is a cruel, uncaring void. The key to being happy isn't to search for meaning. It's just to keep yourself busy with unimportant nonsense, and eventually you'll be dead." (If you give me time I can dig up the citation to this quote). Todd's life, I'd argue, also exemplifies this philosophy. And I suppose that's my biggest critique - that the happiness of the "happy," characters, is to me, not happiness, rather a miserable existence of not trying to face reality, because doing so would make them suicidal
@kalibayala66226 ай бұрын
@@seanberube There isn't a moral obligation to be happy, but a simple human desire.It's ok to do nothing but thats boring. It's morally ok to wallow in your pain, but you have one life to live and one opportunity to be happy. Not many people are willing to throw away the opportunity to try again and to be better. The instance I remember of suicide in the show is in "The View From Halfway Down" where Secretariat delivers a poem about how after jumping off a bridge he deeply regrets the decision to end his life and how everything would've been ok if he didn't jump. He didn't write about his regret of all other life choices, but the fact that he didn't see the opportunity to just continue living (a sentiment many suicide survivors share they experienced after an attempt.) There's sometimes a great beauty in the nihilism that despite the cosmic insignificance of life there's happiness in the struggle of living. In 100 years you'll be long dead and forgotten, yet for maybe even one night you're happy. You made others happy. No great god, cosmic judge, or eternal soul cares about that night, but you do. It may seem like a distraction from drinking, partying, or running for California governor, but it got your mind off the big things for a bit. It might even be smaller than a smile from the cute girl you like, a "good job" from a man you respect, person holding a door for you. Morally none of these things mean anything important in any philosophical framework, but they could have deep meaning to you and that matters. In the final scene of the show Diane and Bojack sit together have a good conversation, and say "Life's a bitch and you keep living. It's a nice night." Nihilism isn't always cynical and the show recognizes that life is worth the moments that mean a lot to you. You can recognize you're a grand of sand that will blown away tomorrow and accept that and appreciate your time on the beautiful beach of life.
@seanberube6 ай бұрын
@@kalibayala6622 if nihilism is true, I’m not sure where you arrive at the conclusion that human desires, happiness, or subjective meaning matter, or why one should bother with pursuing them? Are those things good? If so, where do you derive that moral claim from, and why is someone who advocates the opposite of you (let’s say arguing for misery and suicide) any less valid?
@kalibayala66226 ай бұрын
@@seanberube If Nihilism is true then we have the freedom to decide our morals and desires. The only morally wrong thing is if Nihilism is to strip others right to freedom since to deprive one of choice is to deny them their basic existence. If someone is talking about how suicide is rad and life sucks that's kind of stupid and accomplishes nothing, but there is nothing morally wrong with him saying anything.
@seanberube6 ай бұрын
@@kalibayala6622 I appreciate your patience, as this must be a frustrating circle, but again, where in nihilism do you derive the validity to say it's morally wrong to deny others their freedom or basic existence? If we all have the freedom to decide our morals, then why are your morals on freedom and existence (which I agree with) any more valid than those who have different morals? In this case, are we not constraining others' freedom with our own subjective morality?
@TwinPeaksGrammar7 ай бұрын
An interesting Petersonian analysis
@seanberube7 ай бұрын
Thanks! Lol
@DonkeyTate7 ай бұрын
As a introverted donkey I can relate a lot so thank you.
@seanberube7 ай бұрын
Glad you found it helpful my friend!
@Juan-vl4do7 ай бұрын
❣️ Promo'SM
@judyjudyjudyjascomb7 ай бұрын
Very cogent report! Having not delved into the life of Rockefeller, your presented his life and psyche in an interesting video.
@seanberube7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!!!
@thenormalberries67677 ай бұрын
Dude, what happened to this video? Was this yeeted from the algorithm?
@seanberube7 ай бұрын
Idk, I've long since given up trying to figure out the algorithm haha
@R.L.Kramer7 ай бұрын
Timshel
@DonkeyTate7 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts about the quran
@seanberube7 ай бұрын
That's a good question but I don't feel qualified to speak on the Quran, as I haven't read it, aside from encountering brief passages on occasion
@DonkeyTate7 ай бұрын
@@seanberube If you ever decide to read the Quran. Make sure to read the clear Quran as it has the context and explanation for each verse if you can't read arabic.
@majidbineshgar71567 ай бұрын
" ..erat verbis ,re non erat .." ( it was all words, the real thing was not .." ) Cicero On Duties , As an admirer of Latin language , Yes Cicero was a great orator for his time , and he certainly shaped Latin language , as regards his philosophical achievements , well , however he did not create any philosophical doctrines , yet he encouraged many future political / ethical philosophers such as David Hume and many British thinkers ( actually the British Intellectuals seem to have very much loved him and simply mentioned him as "Tully " , He was so popular that intellectuals of all western European nations have been trying to imitate his style in writing in their own native languages , one could say that the Prose style of all western European Nations must have been influenced by Cicero , his ethics and political ( legal ) works have interesting insights in a skeptical, rational sense thereof , .. despite all of which he similar to most writers concerned with ethics who tend to pontificate , might not have been able to fully live up to his own philosophy , but hey we are all humans .
@seanberube7 ай бұрын
it could be the case that we all fall short of our own philosophy/ideals there's so much to revered in the man's abilities to persuade the human heart towards a love of justice, despite his own shortcomings
@TheIgnoredGender7 ай бұрын
Have you read all the "great books of the western world"?
@seanberube7 ай бұрын
I haven't! Is that one you'd recommend?
@TheIgnoredGender7 ай бұрын
He was a great order indeed
@Jukestar7 ай бұрын
To me it is undeniable that the feeling one gets from genuine, heartfelt understanding, and the sparkle you can see in another's eyes when they finally receive that love and warmth that no one else was giving them, makes me feel not like a slave, but rather a humble servant.
@seanberube7 ай бұрын
I agree completely. It's almost a cliche, but I've found real, genuine love that strikes the heart is more powerful than the most formidable of intellectual arguments
@Jukestar7 ай бұрын
@@seanberube An individual who holds love without logic will eventually commit a hateful action in the name of love.
@Jukestar4 ай бұрын
@@seanberube Coming back to this, I found someone that made me reconnect with my heart, and it was the key that made my brain blossom.
@seanberube4 ай бұрын
@@Jukestar that’s beautiful! I’m happy to hear :)
@Jukestar4 ай бұрын
@@seanberube Thank you!
@01marky7 ай бұрын
I first Read Fight Club when I was 19. I've recently re read it. Because now I'm older at 34 I think I understand the themes better. Chuck Palahniuk is one of my favourite authors. I plan on Re Reading Choke at some point in the future.
@seanberube7 ай бұрын
Fight club is definitely a book taht is beneficial to reread at different points in life. It's rich enough to offer a fresh and new perspective with each reading
@scottyoung35017 ай бұрын
I'm no scholar but I don't understand why you keep saying he's against the west he was a part of the West Christianity started in the middle east and went to Africa before Europe Socrates was Greek the Mediterranean not far from the Middle East these ideas were adopted by the so-called Western Europeans like only the west had a sense of good and evil nowhere else did sounds rhetorically inaccurate
@seanberube7 ай бұрын
Particularly he was against Western morality as he hated Judeo Christian values (which he called slave morality), and he was critical of Socrates for his emphasis on truth, which criticizes the entire foundation of the Western emphasis on logos. So although he was born in the West, he disagreed with the entire Western tradition of truth and judeo-christian morality
@reaganwiles_art7 ай бұрын
Nietzsche, as Maupassant, as Van Gogh were driven mad by syphilis not ideas.