The outer malloelus should rotate forward and in as the inner malleolus rotates back and out.

I appreciate your responses because you are clearly examining the images and reasoning. I do think you’ll see, based off my reply, that you’re misunderstanding an important element though. My position is not that stacking the joints is important. I’m not saying that the model I support is better because the joints are stacked. As I say in the video, I went searching for the answer to why the standard model says a line should pass through the specific set of points that the plumb line is supposed to pass through. The only actual argument I could find was concerning stacking the joints. If you agree that the standard model does not show someone stacking their joints, then there’s a serious issue: what is backing up the plumb line model? You say that the various joints could be averaged, but that is not at all what proponents of the standard model say. They are saying that you want to line the joints up vertically, not that you want them to average out to some line. The claim is stacking, not balancing forward and backward of a line. At 2:54 you can see that the weight in the standard model is not balanced backward to forward, it’s clearly leaning forward. Why would you want to be on the front of your knee? The knee is reenforced at the back. 11:14 shows this as well. If you do believe that stacking over an individual line is important, why wouldn’t the arm stack over a single line? Why wouldn’t the leg stack over a single line? Why should these structures be bent and leaned? Bending and leaning like in the standard model shortens the structures and shortens the overall structure. I’m only talking about stacking to refute the idea. I only pointed out that in my model the joints of the arms can stack, the joints of the legs can stack, and the joints of the spine can largely stack to show that it’s possible for the limbs to be straight and for the spine to not be wildly bent at the lower back (where the spine is the biggest). Someone who has only used the standard model could easily believe straightening the arms, for instance, is impossible. The standard model shows bent arms, leaning legs, and a bent spine. If stacking is relevant (which again, I’m saying it’s not relevant), then the standard model is failing at its own claim You talk about stacking cubes in your comment and there are two things wrong with what you’ve said. First, it’s not the top parts that would fall forward in my model, it would be specifically only the head falling forward. But really what would be falling would be the entire torso - and it would be falling back not forward. You can see that the back is back behind the heels in the model I support. Theoretically that should cause one to fall back. And here we can see the real problem. A body is not a stack off objects. The reason someone would not fall backwards despite the weight of their body being behind their heels is that we have fascia. What matters in my model, as I say in the video, is getting the fascia taut. When the weight of the body is back relative to the legs, it drops the back of the pelvis and lifts the front of the pelvis. It essentially rotates the pelvis out of what you would call APT. The IT band, the most significant fascia of the leg, attaches to the front of the pelvis. So when the pelvis is rotated back and up, the IT band is made taut. This coincides with the leg being taken from leaning forward at the top to vertically straight. That taut fascia will do a lot of free work to keep you upright (fascia is not exerted like muscle). But in the standard model, the front of the pelvis is tipped forward and down, making the IT band limp, and causing the spilling forward that is seen in the standard model. The person then has to make up for the lack of support from their fascia by exerting with their muscles to balance over a line. There’s some small truth to what you’re saying about averaging, in practice, people in the standard model are trying to balance parts of their body around a single line. But they bend back and forth of the line to do that, which crumples them and leaves them without taut fascia. So they don’t even end up over a vertical line, they end up leaning forward, and then they bend and shorten to keep from falling over. The model I support is essentially centered around lengthening the fascia of the body. That’s why a bending and shortening of the lower back is undesirable. Doing that takes the thoracolumbar fascia out of play by making it slack, again causing collapse and drooping. Your last question is a pertinent one. Should the arms rest vertically straight? If your arm is *hanging*, it surely must be vertically straight. If the elbow is pulled back and the hand is forward, you have to be exerting energy to keep it that way. You can think of the arm as two pendulums connected to each other. Could two connected pendulums rest in a bent configuration? Basic physics tells us that is not possible. The pendulums want to come to equilibrium with gravity: they rest vertically straight. I think the limbs should be vertically straight because if they’re not, you will have to work to keep them leaned/bent. When we see that the fascia of the body is made taut instead of slack by straightening the limbs and the torso (the top of the torso curving forward because of the decrease in the diameter of the ribs), we get further confirmation that this model of posture makes sense. Then when you see that by balancing the weight of the midsection back, the head can go forward and up (opening the airway) and the weight of the body can go through the back of the lower leg where the bones are reenforced, it all comes together to make sense. Whereas what’s the justification of the standard model? The arms, legs, and spine don’t have to stack as long as they average to a line by bending back and forth? It’s not good to have the head forward because it would make you fall, but it is okay to lean forward with midsection because…? The weight of the body should go through the front of the knee and foot not the back because…? Does the explanation of stacking joints make sense anymore if we’ve abandoned vertical stacking and now are making an average over a line not by stacking on it, but by bending back and forth? As I said, I do appreciate your input, and I would be curious to your responses. I hope it’s clear that I’m not saying stacking is desirable, the model I support is not based on stacking whatsoever, it’s based on getting the fascia taut so the body can function as it’s meant to.

Most people, even those without any “real scoliosis,” are twisted. This twists the pelvis, ribcage, limbs, and neck/head. Working with the pelvis will help, but it goes all the way down the legs into the feet. Make sure you’re not allowing one ankle to un-screw and rotate out. You want your weight going through the inside of the feet, but don’t collapse the foot to do that, use the screwing of the ankle in, heel out, and make sure to keep the iliacs back and up.

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Thanks for the answer and the videos. You've been a great help

Also one of my wisdom tooth is trying to come out from a wrong place. Do you think fixing my fascia would fix it?

@@horshorson8198 In the long run, probably, but if the tooth is coming in now, then doubtful. And thanks for watching!

My mewing video will be coming this summer! The root cause of asymmetry anywhere in the body, including the face, is subconscious shortening, narrowing, and twisting movements that make the fascia limp. The solution is to use conscious guidance and control to undo your subconscious habits and gain the mechanical advantage that taut fascia provides.

No, a back brace would have the opposite effect and encourage you to rely on it instead of your own body. You will still need directions, especially when doing any kind of complex gesture, and periodic adjustments will be useful, but should not be needed as frequently as they are in the beginning.

It’s funny that you say that it looks like the posture I said is more optimal looks like it will fall forward. If you skip ahead to 11:00 through 11:25 you will see that the standard posture always causes a leaning forward where the belly and lower ribcage are way out over the feet. You will see that that is not present in the posture I support. What you see as “attractiveness” in posture is highly influenced by what you’re used to seeing. In my opinion bent and narrowed arms look weak (even when they’re built up to be strong) and a bent lower back with a forward pelvis looks bad - it’s not as noticeable in the picture you referenced because you don’t see the man’s feet. If you look at how it looks at 11:00 through 11:25 maybe you’ll see what I mean. But the major issue with what you’re saying is when you say “you can also be more like the right without having anterior pelvis tilt,” but that’s really not the case. Again, go to the pictures at 11:00 and you will see they all have what you are calling APT. Really it’s much broader than APT, the entire torso is bent. You will not see people in the standard model who do not have what you're calling APT. I really don’t see how a full back, as shown in the left image you referenced, looks weaker than a hollowed and bent back. And in reality, the one on the left is going to have the better function of their fascia, because the area of the back that’s bent on the right image is right at the thoracolumbar aponeurosis (meaning that fascia is going to be limp and functioning poorly). I also think it’s a real mistake to say models and celebrities have a certain posture, therefore that’s good posture. Do you know how many models and dancers have horrible pains? Do you know how many models and celebrities have had major surgeries to change their appearance? Lastly, the idea that shortened is “strong” is misguided in my view. People often do shorten in response to a demand on their strength, but shortening takes the fascia out of play. That forces you to overwork the muscles since they lack the mechanical advantage they would get from the taut fascia they should be connected to.

​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Okay I'm gonna clarify what I meant by it looks like it's about to fall forward. I think it's that the upper back looks like it is not doing it's job, causing the head and the shoulders to fall forward, and then ultimately putting it off balance. I'm sure I just over exaggerated it though as it looks like you're compensating by leaning the lower body back relative to the limbs and feet. I believe that a slight curve considering the core is all strong and such is actually natural due to the nature of our glutes and our back. Iirc our glutes are the largest and heaviest muscle in our body, so I think you're naturally gonna see it bulge out. Same with the upper back, it's also one of the largest muscle groups and it's naturally gonna put on more muscle than the lower back which is why I believe it appears to be curved, not to mention the scapulas. This is why I wouldn't necessarily consider the left image a "full back", but more like a protruding lower back, which doesn't make sense considering that we pull from the shoulders which is attached to the upper back. I believe the lower back is meant to be a part of the core, or more as a stabilizer. I also wouldn't agree that 11:00 guy has the best posture though as his core doesn't seem to have enough strength through that rom causing his belly to stick out. Given all that in the back though, our center of gravity still appears to be slightly forward and I think that it's natural and just puts us at a more advantageous position over being completely centered. I think this is why we have our forefoot, why our face grows forward, or why we can only curl our arms in front of us and not in the back. Like try putting the weight completely on your heels for example, you won't feel a sense of control over your position. I'm just not gonna argue about attractiveness as it's not entirely objective, but generally though, our beauty standards are usually based upon health. e.g. Bad diet tends to lead to excessive weight or skin conditions. Bad posture and mouth breathing results in recessed or downward grown jaw. (most people just blame genetics on this, but that's another topic), and etc. I would also tend to believe that models and dancers would have less horrible pains than the typical office workers slouching on their desks. Their appearance is a big deal for them so I'm sure physical fitness is a big part of their lifestyle. Most pains come from muscular imbalances, and working out is one of the primary ways to resolve that. I also didn't state that shortened automatically means strong. I just stated the possible extremes of both ends, so saying that one or the other (shortened or lengthened) is right, isn't entirely true as both terms are vague. (I suppose I should've used "could" instead of "might".) edit: I tried going in the mirror, and even just squeezing my glutes already makes it looks like there's not even the curve anymore. So I'm not sure if it's an actual major issue in my statement as you've said. I'll email you the pictures if you'd like

@@OP-pe4yc The head and shoulders in the model I support are well forward of what you will typically see. But if you look at 11:01 you might see that from my perspective, the standard model is showing someone who is massively leaned back at the upper end of the ribcage and with the head and shoulders. This bends the torso and pushes the midsection forward. I would say the standard model shows someone who is overusing their upper back by bending it back. So there’s truth to what you say that the model I support shows someone who is not overusing their upper back, and is instead using their lower back to support their upper back. But it’s key to understand that I’m saying the entire ribcage should go up as the top end comes forward. The head gets to be forward and up by being lifted up, not bent down. Lifting the back of the ribcage lifts the back of the head. The shoulders and head being forward will not cause you to fall forward if you have your midsection back. So what is better: to have your shoulders falling and your lower back lengthened? Or to have your shoulders pulled back and your lower back/abdomen falling forward? Your shoulders sit on top of your ribcage, they’re meant to be kept low, and the lower you get the shoulders the wider they become (this can be demonstrated easily). Is your abdomen supposed to droop forward and down? Are your shoulders supposed to be narrowed on your back? I’m a bit baffled that you would say the lower back looks “protruded” because you will find people who totally round their back and that’s clearly not what you see in the image on the left. The lower back is straight, not protruded. You will see a bit of a bulge out of the glute muscles, but that is not at all the same thing as the clear angling of the pelvis that is seen in every picture of a person in the standard model. That angling of the pelvis coincides with leaning back of the upper ribcage and massive pushing forward of the lower ribcage. I’m talking about the bones here, not the muscles. You are not seeing hulking muscles cause these curves, it’s clearly the bones, which is why we see the same thing in thin women and strong men. It’s also why simply moving the bony structures can change this posture. In my opinion, your weight should go predominantly through the heels. You may not feel that you have control over yourself in this position, but that’s simply because you’re doing something that goes against your habits. Doing anything that goes against your habits will feel strange. In fact, if you attempted to move into the model of posture I support, you would likely feel you’re going to fall over backwards. Our feeling sense is dominated by what we’re habitually used to. I’ve had students who were completely twisted up (their pelvis was visibly favoring one side left to right), and I gave them the directions they needed to straighten their pelvis. How do you think they felt? They felt they like they were completely askew. Their feeling sense was used to favoring one side, so standing straight felt like twisting. This insight that our feeling sense is unreliable is crucial to actually making long term change in posture. I agree that what’s healthy is attractive, but most people are not used to looking at people from a 90 degree angle. You have good eyes, so really examine the images of the people in the standard model. You will see that their midsection is super far forward out over their feet. Even skinny people have bellies sticking out. It’s strange, but most people don’t notice it because we don’t look at people from 90 degrees. Lastly, it’s quite easy to straighten the lower back for a moment. You can cheat and bend your knees and do it extremely easily. Straightening the lower back is not the the totality of the model. You have to be able to straighten the lower back while lifting the ribcage up away from the pelvis, and getting the top end of the torso forward as the midsection goes back. That, you may find, is not easy at all. But also, why did you have to do something (squeezing the glutes) to get rid of the curve? Is it because you habitually would keep the lower back curved? My point was that you will see this curve (which coincides with a protrusion of the abdomen) in every person who has good posture according to the standard model. Of course you can undo that curve for a moment if you intend to. But that doesn’t counter the point that the second such a person goes back to their normal posture they will display what you’ve called APT, and which I would say is the inevitable result of shortening the back and losing the support of your fascia.

I don’t advise exercises. In my view, what people need are directions. Most people would be best to simply start by applying their directions while standing or sitting in a chair. That alone is enough of a challenge for most, there’s no need to add weights or more complex gestures.

I think osteopathy may have some benefits in terms of breaking up some of the adhesions and stuck parts of the fascia and musculature. But in my opinion, unless you change your underlying habits of movement, you will end up back where you started before long.

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 how do I change my underlying habits of movement?

I’m not sure I follow your last question on the chin protruding. I would say that your skull is deforming towards an asymmetry because it’s lacking support from your torso and body generally. Getting the fascia of your body and neck working will do a lot to allow the head to be in its correct position, and then the muscles and fascia will pull you away from asymmetry. I don’t have a huge problem with palatal expansion, I think there are pro and cons. But either way, working on the torso and body generally would be beneficial in the long run and would mitigate the negative sides of palatal expansion if you go that route.

The first thing to consider is that you do not want your belly to expand while breathing. Your lungs are in your ribcage, not your abdomen. Second, it’s certainly true that you have to overcome the conditions of your use, which will include tightened muscles that may have developed adhesions. But your biggest obstacle is really going to be your habits and your frame of mind. One’s preconceived notion of what breathing is is often hard to overcome (it takes time). Sometimes people will say that it feels like they are not breathing when they keep their torso lengthened and widened and try to breathe. This is because we want to reduce the sucking in of air. People get used to feeling of air rushing in though their nose and believe they aren’t breathing unless they feel it. This is contradicted by the fact the person saying that they can’t breathe is in fact breathing (that’s why they don’t pass out). The change in feeling is hard to reckon with at first. I can’t say for certain that you are orchestrating the movements correctly since I can’t see you, so that could be another source of the issue. it definitely takes what feels like an enormous effort at first to lengthen and widen the torso. It will not always be that way, because once the fascia is functioning, it will do a lot of that work for free (fascia is not exerted like muscle). But yes, at the beginning, you are going up against a lifetime of habits. While I would expect anyone who is taking lessons or working diligently to make consistent progress, I would be surprised if anyone could sustain major changes in less than 2 years. That might sound like a long time, but if you wanted to learn anything; piano, basketball, skiing, etc it would take at least that long to be good. You could learn bits and pieces in a month or even a day, but genuine competency would almost certainly take years. As I said, you should be able to build improvement all the way, and you should see that improvement, but you are not just going to snap your fingers and undo a lifetime of habits.

What is the scientific evidence that convinced you that the posture that the Mews support is correct? I have many videos on my channel that explain why I think the model I support is better. I can’t include all that in every video, but a few things to consider. Where does the airway go? If you pull you head back, your pharynx will be moved back relative to the airway in the lower throat, essentially causing a kink in the airway. When you combine in lifting the tongue, you will be shutting the airway even more, since you will lift the larynx. Having the tongue and larynx lifted is what we do when swallowing (if you put your hand on your larynx and swallow, you will feel it go up), since we need our airway closed when swallowing (so food doesn’t go into the airway). It also opens the esophagus. We don’t want to be breathing in a way that opens the esophagus and partially closes and kinks the airway. Retracting the head will coincide with the upper torso going back in space, which will bend the torso, protrude the abdomen, and make the fascia of the body limp instead of taut as it should be. I don’t want you to get your head forward and up in order to move the maxilla, in my view, moving the head forward and up relative to the torso is essential to getting the fascia and muscles of the head, neck, torso, and entire body to function properly. The added bonus is that, when the fascia and muscles are working right, they will widen the palate and move the whole head, including the maxilla forward and up. When the head is forward and up, there is no kink in the airway, so breathing will no longer be impaired. But this is only worthwhile if the torso is lengthened at the same time. If you’ve adopted Mew’s advice on posture, I would guess that you have a hollow back and protruding abdomen. I obviously can’t see you, but you can take a picture of yourself from the side and see. Where is your abdomen? Is it out over your toes? Is your back hollow or full? You may very well have improved over your starting point by engaging your tongue and doing some exercises of the muscles of your face. But are you sure you’ve improved as much as you could? Are you sure your general body posture improved at all?

I have a series in my playlists that covers the neck and head. If you haven’t seen that already, there are some specific directions that can help bring tension in the the musculature and fascia of the face. You are going to need to work on the torso though to be able to support the head where it’s meant to be. When the head is out of place, issues like what you describe around the eyes can occur. The way out is to address not just the face and head but the whole body.

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 could you please share that video because I can't able to find the exact video

If you mean in walking, I can understand that. Walking is not the place to start. If you haven’t already done some real work in sitting and standing, try to maintain lengthening while walking will be difficult. If you’re looking for direct assistance, I do offer lessons done one on one over Zoom. Otherwise, you can look through some earlier videos and feel free to ask any questions that come up for you as you’re working.

I think it would be pretty difficult to manipulate the sphenoid bone separate from a broader adjustment to the head. If the sphenoid bone is out of place, it’s likely because unbalanced forces from the fascia and muscles are deforming the skull. It’s not the most exciting answer, but ultimately it’s going to to come back to organizing the torso and then getting the head more generally into the correct relative position. Then the muscles and fascia will apply forces that bring the sphenoid back to where it should be.

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 thank u so much for the reply! :) where do u think is a good point to start watching your videos to improve my whole posture?

Watching Masoero’s videos is certainly a good idea. If you have money to spend on lessons, getting lessons from an iAT teacher can accelerate your learning a lot. If you don’t, you need to get visual feedback on your own; using either a webcam/camera or mirror. I have various procedures you can work with in my series on the torso, legs, arms, neck/head (find these in the playlists). You need to start implementing directions to control and guide gestures, and the way to know if you’re succeeding or not is by checking with the visual feedback. Basic gestures that are good to practice with at the beginning are simply standing and sitting. Then you can move to leaning with the torso in sitting, then leaning and lowering the torso in standing, and going from standing to sitting and back again.

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 great, I appreciate the reply!

The lower ribs at the back should lift up away from the back of the pelvis

You’re failing to grasp that your fascia being taut vs limp has a huge impact on how much energy an action takes. If you’re walking around on limp fascia, I’m sure it would seem to you like a lot of work to go up on the toes, but it takes a tiny amount of energy to go slightly up onto your toes (which is all that is needed to walk) if you’re lengthening and not making your habitual shortening movements. Yes, the heel is designed to take a large amount of our weight. As F.M. Alexander said, the weight should chiefly go through the heel in standing. But that is not the same as striking with the heel forward of your body, which produces a backward force (contrary to forward walking), nor does that mean your heel should land on an angle, which is what happens when the forefoot is elevated. Further, walking in the typical way by bending the knee causes the torso to shorten and the weight of the body to fall forward onto the toes and even beyond the toes. Many people stand and walk with their midsection well over their toes - meaning they are not putting the weight through the heel. So you should have a problem with that if you think the weight should go through the heels. You also cannot “passively” bend your knee. You have to carry that leg, which is why most people shift their torso to the side over their supporting leg. That causes wear and tear that would not be there if you relied on your fascia to simply elevate the entire structure of the body small amount. But when you shorten to walk, you lose the support of your fascia and have to overwork your muscles. I understand why this would be confusing if you do not understand how fascia can provide leverage to the muscles so that they can do more with less input. If you’re thinking you have to get up slightly onto your toes by shortening and overusing the muscles, I can see why that would seem daunting, and shortening to shuffle along would seem easier. But shortening the torso and the fascia will leave in a trap that you don’t understand you can get out of, because you’re not aware of the help the fascia could provide if you simply made it work the way it's supposed to. You are then stuck with only shortening options, and in such a case, it very well may be best to bend the knees and carry the legs. If you lengthen the torso and the fascia, you will see how easy it is to lift your torso a small amount, and then bending and shortening to walk - that is losing a bunch of leverage - will seem illogical and pointless.

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Youu

Thanks for your kind comment and your suggestion!

Getting coordinated lengthening movements going will often feel like it’s introducing tension into places where there was not tension before. Without observing you, I can’t say with certainty that is the case with where you’re at, but pulling muscles that have been habitually short into full length is uncomfortable at first. Anyone who does not feel some real stretch in coordinating the movements I describe is likely not going far enough or in the right direction. That said, the feeling sense or the feeling of tension is not the guide. Feelings can and do change, sometimes very quickly. What once felt like an enormous effort and stretch will come to feel casual and commonplace. You don’t want to aim to achieve a feeling of tension because that feeling might only be there at the beginning because you are going so counter to your habits. The way to see if you’re truly lengthening is with visual feedback from a webcam/camera or mirror.

To be clear, the back should only be straight up to the armpit line. Try sitting on a chair, put a stick against one of your iliacs so that the other end sticks out over your knee on the same side (let it rest on your thigh, but secure it with your hand). Pull the iliac back while you look at the stick. The stick should move back in space. You can also put your palm on your sacrum while standing. Use a mirror or camera for visual feedback. If your pelvis is angled, your hand should be angled. Point your fingers down so that they’re at the lower end of the sacrum. Your palm should be forward and your fingers back if your pelvis is angled. Pull the top of the sacrum (where your palm is) back faster than your lower sacrum (where your fingers are). Some people have a tough time getting the signal through to their pelvis to move, but these two procedures should help you see that it’s possible to rotate the pelvis in sitting or standing. The movement of the iliac and the sacrum both rotate the pelvis in the same direction.

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 thank you but I didnt understand what you meant by armpit line it would be very helpful if you make a video show your shirltless side view. Your posture has almost changed my life im experiencing less pain but im skinny and while maintaining that posture i look weak and(like an alien) i still get a bit of hollowness in my back and it even takes a bit of height correct me if im doing wrong

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Dude i want ask you something thats confusing me if your posture is correct then why do some of the most attractive people with great forward facial growth have that so called good posture where there is hollowness in back

@@MohdAbbas-ep9zx The armpit line can be found by placing a ruler or stick under your armpit. Make sure the stick is touching your torso and is horizontal. That is the armpit line. Trying to learn through videos is tough because you can’t get any direct feedback. I can’t see you, so I can’t see what you’re doing. If you don’t want to take lessons, then you need to record yourself with a webcam or camera, or at least use a mirror. If you’re losing height, you are probably allowing your ribcage to come down towards the pelvis. The sets of movements I describe are very much against people’s typical habits, so they are not easy to orchestrate, especially at first. I struggled with them for a considerable period when I started out, even with a great teacher (though I saw constant progress by using my directions and getting feedback). Seeing me without a shirt is not going to give you any additional information. You can see the orientation of the ribcage and pelvis in any reasonably fit clothes. If the directions or the model are unclear, study the videos and feel free to ask questions.

@@Abbas-zd7xg It’s not a one-to-one that anyone who has a shortened back is going to have poor facial structure. You can find one person with poor posture who has terrible pain, while another person who displays a very similar posture has no pain whatsoever. Some people who shorten their back will have a very lifted chest, while others will have a sunken chest. So it could very well be that someone has poor posture, a well developed face, and some other problem you don’t see or haven’t noticed. Many people who want to get “forward facial growth” are people who have a noticeable problem where their face is, in a sense, deformed. My claim is that by correcting your posture you can eliminate that deformation and get yourself to a healthy baseline. If you go from having a weak chin to having a normal chin, that will tend to make you look better, but it won’t suddenly make you wildly attractive. Another thing to consider when you look at pictures of celebrities and the like is that many of them have had surgeries and other procedures done. They’re also in makeup. So just because they have an attractive face does not mean they got it naturally or that it is natural for their posture. Some people are lucky and they are simply more attractive than others. But the deformation of the face that causes one to be somewhat ugly is, in my view, clearly a result of the posture. I’ve seen it in myself and others that reorganizing the torso and head will change the shape the head and face, and take clear imperfections towards a more healthy appearance.

The outside of the ilium (hip bone), the outside of the knee, and the outside of the foot should all line up. That will give you a squared off base. Your fist should fit between your big toes, and the outsides of your feet should be straight.

I also thought about this and elevation differences. When going up and down steep ground, you have to bend the knee

That’s when you use your extended leg to kick the stick out of your way.🤣 What I’m describing here are ideal conditions for working to overcome habits walking through conscious control. There are obviously going to be situations where you have to bend your legs, or you have step to the side, or narrow your gait to walk through a narrow entrance. The point is not to say you shall never deviate from walking like this. But if you observe yourself, if you’re like most people, you will find you are massively bending your knee all the time to walk, even when there are not roots or sticks around. It’s tricky to overcome a habit you’ve used for decades, so to build up skill in keeping the torso lengthened, for instance, even while walking, we practice under near optimal conditions. Once you’ve gained proficiency there, you will be able to use some of the skills you’ve developed to deal with the unexpected tree root. But if you can’t help but shorten your back when walking even under good conditions, then it’s not gonna matter if there is or isn’t a tree root, you’ll be shortening either way.

At 4:16 - 4:28 I use an older and somewhat newer picture of me. It's not perfect, but it should give you an clear picture of what I'm saying is desirable.

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Well it looks strange. Thats why I asked you to show a really healthy posture

@@NektoNC You can watch this video if you'd like, it has some pictures of F.M. Alexander:kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZynoq-Y2N2qhZs.html The opening of this video shows Masoero in sitting: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbJifclzppyUZ4U.html It's going to look strange to you because you're used to seeing people with their head and shoulders retracted and their abdomens protruding. If you look at an image of someone you consider to have a really healthy posture, take note, is their midsection pushed forward? Is their back hollow? If you so, why? Is that really healthy?

I’ve definitely noticed that some non-civilized people, especially children, have very protruded abdomens and a forward tilt of their pelvis. I’m afraid I can’t give you much insight on this topic, but I would say that I don’t think we should take it for granted that a person living a non-civilized lifestyle will necessarily have good posture. F.M. Alexander believed that due to the fact that mankind had reasoning powers, that our only route to ideal use of the self was through those reasoning powers, and that simply attempting to be guided by natural instincts, even when they're accurately honed by a natural life, would lead one to have a posture that is typically much better than the average modern person, but still not ideal or controlled. Maybe there’s a bit of a circular argument there, or maybe it’s just tautological, but if you aren’t consciously guiding your actions, and instead are simply well adapted to your natural environment, you don’t have conscious control over your actions, you just have well suited subconscious guidance. Maybe a more natural person doesn’t need conscious guidance because even if they aren’t ideal, they’re still doing good enough to not have any significant pain or postural problems. But most of us do not and never will live a natural life, and for us, Alexander may be right, that the only way out of postural dysfunction and its consequences is through conscious control.

Bringing the scapulae closer to the spine will mean my shoulders and upper back are narrowing. Why would I want to narrow my upper back? I would say you want as wide of an upper back as is possible.

The ribcage can be thought of like a box. Most people push the lower end forward, which causes the upper end to come back - it rotates. We want to rotate the ribcage the other way, so that the lower end comes back and up and the upper end goes forward and up. Most people will struggle at first with getting the upper sternum forward without also moving the lower sternum forward. You need the antagonistic action of the lower sternum and lower ribs going back as you get the upper sternum forward and up, if you want to stay in equilibrium and not end up having too much weight forward.

@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Thanks! I think it was because in my mind I keep thinking the upper sternum is level with the areola breast area, now I am trying to hold this area back (and up) and also trying to move the area up and forward above it (upper sternum), I'm feeling a lot of strain on the areola/breast area, although still not seeing any movement of the upper sternum. Is it possible my lower sternum is too far forward?

Bro this is same stuff with me. I have been trying stuff for a year now. Gaining knowledge and doing low effort- rehab exercises, physical therapy arent helping. I started running and sleeping on time, somehow it allows my body to resume maxilla growth stage( which have been paused by my interference and unwanted posture) . When run for a week then the "growth process" (yk)resumed. When I stopped for a 2 days then it paused again. I conclude with my theory. that running for for few months everyday consistently and leaning down body fat would complete this process and let you live a normal life without worry again. I will check my theory after 8 months. Hope It works out.

Also I have a absolute answer for you , an alternative. This will work 1000%. If you have deviated from your genetic jaw development potential. You can consider "Advance light force appliance" therapy or inshot ALF therapy ( search yourself) . In this you are a give small wire tool which acts as tongue and expands your pallet to "your" genetic potential. Also have proven to correct posture related issue. Check that out if nothing works. Your welcome

Pardon my grammatical errors I m in hurry.

In my view, the problems people have related to the maxilla and the structure of the face are tied up with the general postural problems. If the bony structures of your torso (ribcage and pelvis) are out of place, the shape of the torso is changed, shortened, and basically collapses. This is because the fascia is no longer taut, so the muscles become unbalanced and pull the torso into crumpled, twisted mess. The same is true of the head. When the fascia of the head and neck are not taut, the skull is pulled out of shape and essentially collapses. But the fascia of the head and neck are dependent on support from the torso. If your back is not properly supporting your head, you head will go back and down or forward and down: neither of which is desirable, and both will cause the head become misshapen. So in my view, the torso must be addressed first. Without the support of the torso, the head can never get to its correct relative position, and so the fascia will be limp. The first question is what’s happening with your torso. Is your lower back hollowed out? Is your sternum tilted back at the top? Is your midsection pushed forward? Once you correct the torso, you can get into the specifics of the head and neck. You can reorganize the head and neck in such a way that lengthens the fascia, and then the muscles and fascia will produce forces that widen and lift the maxilla. Over time that will undo the shortening and narrowing habits in the mouth area. Basically, you need to stop shortening and narrowing, first in the torso, and then in the head and neck. I have playlists on my channel of my series that cover the torso, the leg and arms, and the head and neck. There are many procedures in those series that can you work with. If you’re looking for direct assistance, I also offer lessons one on one over Zoom.

The image there is edited to reorganize the parts of the body more towards what I would say is optimal on the right. You say he looks hunched over, but I’ve edited it in such a way that he’s clearly taller on the right. I’ve literally just cut the image and rotated it forward and up. I do understand why it appears closer to what you might think of as hunched, but I think you should question that assumption that a head being forward is necessarily hunched. Hunched typically means forward and down with the head, not forward and up. While I do understand why you would say the left picture looks closer to what’s typically called good posture, does it not seem like his head is pulled very far back in the image? Even those who support the standard model would likely say he looks a bit pulled back there. Do you see that his eyes are pointed on an angle upwards? Do you see that his face is well behind his lower sternum and the front of his ribcage? Look at the ears. In my edit, his ear is upright. In the genuine image, his ear is tilted back and down. In my view the standard model of posture is wrong, and I’m using Jeando Masoero’s model, which I think is much more accurate. So yes, the image on the right is what I’m saying is closer to optimal (although obviously, since it’s an edit, it’s not perfect).

As someone who has had fairly severe jaw problems in the past, in my view, what really matters most to those problems is correcting the torso. When the torso is twisted up and shortened, the head lacks support and falls into asymmetry. Trying to just address the jaw doesn’t tend to work because the problem is not localized to the jaw. I don’t typically focus in on specific problems because the remedy I offer is not aimed at specific problems. By correcting your general coordination and getting the tissues of your body to function properly, you will get at the root cause of the asymmetry and dysfunction. If you haven’t seen it, I do have a series on the neck and head that touches on those subjects and has some procedures you can try out. I have a playlist for it on my channel.

Looking at what I show in this video might look odd to you because we don’t often study how people look from the side. If you observe people from the side, you will see that most people push their midsection way forward and hollow their back. You will see that’s not the case in the images of me. My posture is not really noticeably different to the average person, though I occasionally get comments that I look very upright. People mostly tend to notice in sitting because most people slouch quite dramatically, whereas I sit at the front of the chair, upright. But if someone observes posture closely, they would see that my posture is distinctly different from the average persons. I’ve never gotten a negative comment in real life, so, as I said, I think what might appear jarring to you is that I do not stick my belly out and pull my head back like most people you will see. Because it's something you haven't seen much before if ever, it appears odd.

Yes, everything above the armpit line can go forward and up. The upper sternum of course should go forward and up.