Not related to the video, but I have been out with women

I like the final episode, there is a lot to say about it, but I sort of agree the main character as No 1 was not a climax. We had already seen the double idea in the episode The Schizoid Man.

That movie came out in 1972, based upon the 1968 stage play. The Prisoner TV show came out in 1967. Might take a look at that anyway. Thanks.

Not aware of the film having nipple piercing, only remembered ear piercing. If I remember correctly, Cronenberg said that was based on one of his wife's own tastes. Scenes from the TV version (with extended and deleted scenes) are found on new blu ray / 4k releases.

@@moviearchaeologist9655 Yes there WAS a nipple piercing. It was the sofa scene where Niki said to MaX "Want to try a few things..?" Very next scene Max needle pierced her through and through on nipple closeup with a drop of blood and all. There was no "sex" involved but the inference was unquestionably obvious. I saw it on HBO 1983 when pay per view TV was uncensored. The whole movie was provocative, but that scene was on the pinnacle edge. When I saw your review I hoped I would have my answer. Maybe you could help me find the answer? There must be a directors cut somewhere of the original. Maybe David Cronenberg would reply to your inquiry. Maybe Debbie herself? Maybe James Woods? I wish I could have the opportunity to see it again UNCENSORED. Thank you -

@@user-ss4ik8tg9s I don't know, to be honest. I know that the movie had plenty of changes from shooting to the edit based upon the production photos showing more scenes between Max and Nikki, and an alternative ending scene of every major character being in the Videodrome torture room. I do think a copy of a screenplay draft would present a lot more info, but so far I only have been able to find third hand descriptions of the screenplay.

That was when Angelo Muscat's midget butler goes in the door, not the main character, but yes, that has been talked about. Curiously enough, McGoohan did say in The Prisoner Puzzle interview that he had considered the midget butler as being the real Number One, it was he who went into the house with the door marked number 1. And there are some things going on with the midget butler which I will talk about another time.

Either I tried to pronounce "Number 2's" or my half Chinese accent slipped up there :)

No explanation or genuine attempts to debunk my video.

Dorothy is deranged, yes, but Frank is the more psychotic one because he kills and tortures people. And Jeffrey isn't completely innocent himself. The script version said that after he made "love" to Dorothy, Dorothy asks Jeffrey if he wants to see her again, and the script says he lied when he answered yes. All of the characters are not morally pure, which is just like real life.

I think Dorothy was traumatized by what Frank was doing to her, and she began to associate pain with sex. I definitely don't think that she is the villain in the movie. She only has Jeffrey do those same things to her, because of her psychological state as a victim. I looked up a source that said the following about one of the types of mentalities developed by a victim. "2. Other-directedness (three schemas): subjugation, self-sacrifice, and approval/recognition-seeking. Other-directedness schemas are associated with an early environment of “conditional acceptance,” and a constant need to “suppress important aspects of the self in order to gain love, attention, or approval." I think that this might be applicable to her sexual need for being dominated and hurt. I'm no psychologist though, maybe she was into some creepy, kinky stuff even before Frank came along. It's possible her character was abused in the same way by her husband. Who knows, cause it's all just a movie. But I'm interested to hear what you think. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-new-home/202110/new-findings-what-victims-abuse-really-believe

Yes, Harold Lloyd in Safety Last. I think Lloyd was with producer Hal Roach at one point too (the same producer for L&H)

Yeah, it's a strange thought. Some of the "flaws" in L&H were intended, but they're the kind of flaws that modern filmmakers typically would not do and probably would be looked down upon by critics and audiences if made today.

@@moviearchaeologist9655 probably the last timing a film used a lack of production value to their advantage is monty python and the holy grail which a killer rabbit is a puppet. A coconut was used for horse sound effects. What I respect about the coconut was down to the production could not afford horses. Would the humour have worked if King Arthur rode on a horse, I doubt it. The comedy timing would of been different. I feel the film only works with good storytelling and creativity and the audience going with the joke. Yes there are audience that would look down their noses on something that looks fake. Then again some audience even hate a film that black and white or film scratches or even subtitles. Again if a film has got great storytelling and acting the audience will like.

@@ninfilms Holy Grail is a masterpiece. Did you know btw that there was a horse briefly shown in one scene... When a knight on his horse chops off a historian's head!

@@moviearchaeologist9655 yes The Holy Grail is a masterpiece. I preferred it that than Life of Brian as the Holy Grail was the first film that introduced me to Monty python. Yes I was aware of the real horse in the film. I am still trying to point out that the cheapness of the film worked in its favour due to a talented cast and crew just letting themselves go and have fun.