Since these were marketed towards the luxury market, I agree- power folding mirrors should be standard, as well as the 360 camera.

I appreciate the dedication it took to count that! ;)

Unfortunately, if you want to fold the mirrors in prior to washing, you have to roll the window down and manually fold them in.

Is this comment based on actual experience?

This is a regular, Series III Wagoneer.

Could be a clogged or broken spray nozzle- I would certainly let the dealer take a look if it's still under warranty.

Thank you for the kind words. Overall space/leg room is exceptional. I've filled the car with seven adults and no one had any complaints. Unfortunately, we've began the buyback process due to several tech issues that are unable to be resolved at this time. I've seen 23's with similar issues, but I don't believe they are as wide spread as the 22's. Now that 24's are starting production, the hope is there will be even fewer issues. I would ask your dealer if you can drive the vehicle overnight prior to purchasing.... test the heated/ventilated seat functions, ensure the center console is responsive and not laggy and make sure there's no rattles, shakes etc. that would keep you from moving forward.

@@onthrottlereviews2104 thank you for your honesty and for sharing this. Looking at the 2023 but my dealer just said that he ordered a 2024… guessing I should wait for the 2024.

@@ericcissoko1280, If you can't find a 23 that's heavily discounted, I would opt for the 24- depreciation on these are steep the first few years (roughly $25k - $30k from MSRP).

@@onthrottlereviews2104 thank you for letting me know

@@onthrottlereviews2104 we just purchased our 2023 GW earlier this week. Got $10k off MSRP. So far (knock on wood) no issues. Great review by the way. Learned a lot from you.

I haven't noticed this, but I will certainly try and recreate the same scenario.

I have about 18k miles and will most likely be around 25k miles by the time we've owned this for a full year. Mechanically, the 5.7 Hemi is strong and we've had no issues. Electronically, we've been plagued with ongoing issues since we bought the car new. A Heated Seat issue that has gone unresolved after several repairs and a radio that fails to update over the air, so our software is out of date (causing several issues). Some of this I contribute to a dealership misdiagnosing and being lazy.... we switched dealerships and immediately had a correct diagnosis of the problems- now we're just waiting on backordered parts. Frustrating at the least and I honestly would expect more from Client Services, since they are trying to coin this as a "Luxury Vehicle"- all that said, I would still buy another one if I were in the market for an SUV of this size.

@On Throttle Reviews Thanks for the Review. Yes good ol Reliable Hemi. I may be getting one soon, going after the same look as yours!

The Grand Wagoneer has a larger screen, however, I do agree….. it would be nice if they had gone edge to edge with the display screen.

22” Vossen HF6-3 rims, finished in Satin Black

The 6.4 has been in a lot of previous vehicles- I'm not super close to the 6.4 grumbles, however, from my experience, the issues aren't wide spread. Just note, the Series 1 and Obsidian models will be the only models with the 6.4 as an option in 2023.

Thanks so much for the feedback. To answer your question, Air suspension is NOT standard on all trim levels. Well worth it in my opinion!

@@onthrottlereviews2104 Thanks for clarifying this. For me, the Jeep website could be more intuitive. Any information on the air suspension is buried in the model compare menu and only shows up if you select 4x4. It appears it's only standard on the Series III 4WD but no obvious info on the additional cost for i or how it works. Personally, I think the website could be set up better. There should be a clear dedicated paragraph detailing all suspension options including the air suspension system, how it works and what trim it's available on. Also, I'm not a huge fan of how Jeep have put together the available packages. You can't get the tow package along with the Pano roof or deployable side steps or McIntosh sound system for instance. Some of these items should be standalone options and at this price point the Pano roof 100% should be standard across the board. In our comparison to the Defender 130, LandRover does a better job with their standalone and package options imo. Thanks again!

Yes, this is for the 5.7 Hemi

Black is always one of those colors- but I do have a ceramic coat on the vehicle and wash it about once a week, which keeps it very manageable.

Well done,@@onthrottlereviews2104.

Thank you!

Always wondered about that

I believe it's +20 for the OEM replacement

22” or 24” this wheels?

Tinted windows make all the difference!

Is Robert correct,@@onthrottlereviews2104? Is the air conditioning set-up weak?

@@jackj5368, I commonly carry a full car in the South and I have no complaints. The family usually brings blankets on trips because they get cold. However, several forums do have members that complain about weak A/C. I wouldn’t say it’s wide spread in my opinion, but I have heard of some issues- just depends on the car.

I appreciate your candid and straightforward response,@@onthrottlereviews2104. I find myself really wanting to like the new Grand Wagoneer. It would feel good to my American patriot soul to purchase something other than a Mercedes or BMW SUV.

Yes, they are 22” Vossen HF6-3, finished in Satin Black

You push the turn signal stalk towards the dash- when the headlights are on, you should see a confirmation message in the driver display.

I'm not as familiar since I don't own one, but I will have to see what I can do!

It has adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist, which simply keeps you in the lane. It does not have the same lane centering abilities that the Grand Wagoneer has. The Grand Wagoneer is a level 2 automated driving system, which requires hands on the wheel and eyes on the road.

@@onthrottlereviews2104 Thanks for the clarification; I still can't seem to figure out between Series III (Wagoneer) vs. Series I (Grand Wagoneer) which one offers better value/feature for the price!

@@svm2020 The Series III provides a great value for the money spent. I look at the GW Series as the vehicle to purchase if the ultimate in adjustability is important to you. I suppose it all comes down to preference. If you don't like fine tuning things, the Series III Wagoneer would be the direction I'd steer you. If you are always tinkering to improve something, then I would steer you towards the Grand.

@@onthrottlereviews2104 Thanks man!

There's a lot going on with the Uconnect- anything in particular you're after or just looking for a better overall explanation of the system?

@@onthrottlereviews2104 yes plz