Making a stainless Damascus ring
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@adolfomartinlunaguajardo4087
@adolfomartinlunaguajardo4087 Күн бұрын
Que es el líquido verdoso-amarillo? Y que le has colocado al final? Gracias,,poco tiempo que estoy experimentando con el mokume gane
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Күн бұрын
Ácido nítrico 53%. A causa del cobre, primero se vuelve amarillo, luego verde y finalmente azul.
@jamesmcblane4171
@jamesmcblane4171 Ай бұрын
😮‍💨👌
@jamesmcblane4171
@jamesmcblane4171 Ай бұрын
Nice
@SumanDhakhwa
@SumanDhakhwa Ай бұрын
How many layers of mokume make for ring seems 16 layers I have been making with 32 years
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Ай бұрын
Yes, I used 16 layers here. One layer of silver is significantly stronger than the others. For rings made of gold, palladium and silver I usually use 17 layers.
@shef-nozh
@shef-nozh 2 ай бұрын
Мне нравится 👍
@Top69Secret
@Top69Secret 2 ай бұрын
Is the green liquid nitric acid? What percentage?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 2 ай бұрын
Yes nitric acid, 53%. At the beginning it is of course yellow. Due to the dissolved copper it gradually turns blue from green.
@damienolive2185
@damienolive2185 2 ай бұрын
Hi, excellent work👍🏾. Can you tell me what is the tool called you used to twist the copper silver bar once out of the rolling machine. Regards Damien
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! In German “Windeisen”. I don't know the English term.
@rubenfernandez9071
@rubenfernandez9071 2 ай бұрын
Is a tap wrench, normally use for taps
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp 3 ай бұрын
And what is the green liquid where you dip it?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 2 ай бұрын
Nitric acid. Due to the copper, it turns from yellow to green to blue. and there it is green right now.
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp 3 ай бұрын
What liquid do you add with the brush?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 2 ай бұрын
Baldwins Patina
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp 3 ай бұрын
Que líquido le agrega al final?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 3 ай бұрын
Pátina de Baldwin. Hay un enlace en la descripción.
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp 3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot
@CRTCLDSSTR
@CRTCLDSSTR 3 ай бұрын
Damascus for noobs, but still pretty cool
@holliday9416
@holliday9416 3 ай бұрын
too arrogant from ur part, no need to be if u are better feel proud but the others work its valuable too
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 2 ай бұрын
No, it‘s different
@MrTurbotom1982
@MrTurbotom1982 4 ай бұрын
Wow! Thats so cool looking! 💯🔥
@wolfswerkstatt
@wolfswerkstatt 4 ай бұрын
Hallo Christoph , tolle Werkstatt deine Maschinen sind top👍 lg Wolfgang
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp 5 ай бұрын
Good day, what's the last liquid you put in the ring? It's at minute 13:40, thank you very much.
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 5 ай бұрын
Hello, this is Baldwins Patina
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp
@EduardoAcostaGarcia-qq6tp 5 ай бұрын
@@mokumegane muchas gracias
@Zyan_Carli
@Zyan_Carli 7 ай бұрын
Hallo christoph, wo hast du den ring reingetaucht? Diese leicht giftig grüne substanz ? Was war das :) lg! Sieht sehr schön aus das stück
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 7 ай бұрын
Danke. Das ist Salpetersäure.
@user-qh8br7fb2y
@user-qh8br7fb2y 9 ай бұрын
Wahnsinn, sieht phantastisch aus 👍
@andrewrock7409
@andrewrock7409 9 ай бұрын
Screw you
@Kijano.
@Kijano. 9 ай бұрын
Süßer Hase ;)
@_jaeger_fabian
@_jaeger_fabian 9 ай бұрын
Sehr cool 👍
@woelund66
@woelund66 9 ай бұрын
Tolle Flüssigkeit
@teresafierro1789
@teresafierro1789 10 ай бұрын
Cero orfebrería..solo metal mecánica.
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 10 ай бұрын
Jeder fängt mal klein an. Ja das ist die basic Variante. Gedacht um Auszubildende die Grundlagen zu vermitteln. Kein Betrieb der Welt lässt seinen Lehrling gleich ein Meisterstück fertigen;) Sie müssen lernen das andere andere Ziele haben als sie selbst. Und versuchen die Dinge im richtigen Kontext zu sehen. Die Ronden kann man übrigens bei mir im Shop erwerben.
@torstenneuer1560
@torstenneuer1560 10 ай бұрын
What a waste of material. 😥
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 10 ай бұрын
Not at all. We can separate and reuse it.
@torstenneuer1560
@torstenneuer1560 10 ай бұрын
@@mokumegane Even if you can separate and reuse the chips (more work, more energy consumed) I would consider the amount of work and energy put into making the layered plate substantial and using more than absolutely necessary only adds to customer price. Still, this can be done without all the chipping. Make a small mokume gane bar, torque it, then use a chisel to make a hole and shape it on the ring mandrel.
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 10 ай бұрын
@@torstenneuer1560 I see what you mean. In series production, it is essential to be able to produce a disc more efficiently from sheet metal. The chips and mold costs are irrelevant. My time is the expensive part. I make these discs for trainees. It is also important that each piece is the same size and weight. That's what customers expect.
@cav1086
@cav1086 10 ай бұрын
Hello, would you consider/do you make billets to sell / export? I’m UK based:)
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 10 ай бұрын
Yes we do and ship worldwide. You can find some information on this at www.mokume-gane-shop.at. We can discuss your needs via email.
@cav1086
@cav1086 10 ай бұрын
@@mokumeganeJust emailed:)
@user-ef7ez7mp5o
@user-ef7ez7mp5o 10 ай бұрын
What is the tool you use to twist the billet? I couldn’t find the name of it.
@mokumegane
@mokumegane 10 ай бұрын
Tap wrench
@zaoermia
@zaoermia 10 ай бұрын
Ich bin sehr gespannt... hab selber mal einen Becher geschmiedet und war lange Jahre Goldschmiedin
@zaoermia
@zaoermia 11 ай бұрын
Sehr schön ❤
@Cabeza492
@Cabeza492 11 ай бұрын
Awesome job!! You could have made a more detailed picture of the finished work, such a piece of artwork deserves to be watched more closely.
@brendencammer8380
@brendencammer8380 11 ай бұрын
Ooohhh my that is sexy, I've made some makume out of quarters, the cheap way to start ,but not easy at all. Beautiful consistency in your patern... Great job!!
@michaelgrayson2731
@michaelgrayson2731 11 ай бұрын
i was worried that the 2 inch by 2 inch billets i was thinking of doing were to big. lol..thank you for showing i was wrong and ok,.
@duncanthebard
@duncanthebard Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Do you make your forge your own billets of mokume-gane or is it manufactured?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
Thanks. We make them ourselves.
@joyeriaventum
@joyeriaventum Жыл бұрын
Really nice video! Thank you for sharing. The Acid is Nitric?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Yes, I etch with nitric acid.
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 Жыл бұрын
I think as it ages it will be even more beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
@jmullens90
@jmullens90 Жыл бұрын
What's preventing it from being full of cold shuts?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
Since my English is not so good, I use a translator. I'm not sure if I understand what you're asking. Do you mean the overlaps from twisting? If you structure a sheet too deeply, it can also be that the edges lie over it. looks like a crack but it isn't. You have to be alert and keep an eye on all of this.
@jmullens90
@jmullens90 Жыл бұрын
@@mokumegane exactly. What's preventing moisture from getting into those cracks and forming a patina.
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
@@jmullens90 There are no cracks there. The layers are firmly and coherently connected to each other. In principle, a patina always forms when it comes into contact with atmospheric oxygen. That is also very desirable. But what you don't want is verdigris. It develops on contact with the salt of acetic acid.
@caseygriswold8617
@caseygriswold8617 Жыл бұрын
You're heating it up and letting it cool enough so you can touch it with your bare hands?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
Yes, I put it in the water right after the glow. I always forget to film that. It's such an automated action.
@jeanladoire4141
@jeanladoire4141 Жыл бұрын
Awww you didn't make the actual bar? I wanted to see that
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
The blanks are produced on modern sinter presses. I work here with another company on the development of semi-finished products. Even if you only see me, it's actually a whole team that deals with it. If it turns out I'll make a video of it.
@jeanladoire4141
@jeanladoire4141 Жыл бұрын
@@mokumegane oh okay, that's nice, but it would be nice to see how they welded the copper and the silver. Hot brazing? Or forge welding? But forge welding copper is quite a pain so seing the process would be super interesting
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
@@jeanladoire4141 Using diffusion welding. In German we say "bonden" to the process. The sheets come in a graphite mold and these are placed in a sinter press under a protective atmosphere. Here, water-cooled stamps constantly exert high pressure over several hours at the right temperature on the metal sheets. The sheets connect. A costly process, but with excellent results. This means that not only sheet metal but also powder, granules, wires,... can be processed. And also materials such as titanium, ceramics, glass,... For example, the ring blanks here are made of titanium and silver granules: mokume-gane-shop.at/collections/silber-titan-1/products/ringrohling-titan-silber
@jeanladoire4141
@jeanladoire4141 Жыл бұрын
@@mokumegane impressive technology, i've heared of it used in aeronautics parts... So as i suspected, forge welding (the modern version of it, where the forge is replaced by a furnace, the flux by inert gas and the hammer by heavy presses). No wonder why the result seems flawless! Thanks for the info! I'm a bladesmith and i'm experimenting with a lot of new metallurgical processes (i'l trying to find new forms of damascus, kinds that have never been made yet). Do you think i can contact the engineers you work with and ask them about my project?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
@@jeanladoire4141 Exactly. I'm the right person to talk to. For a specific request, please send me an email: [email protected]
@SoRadAwesomeStCool
@SoRadAwesomeStCool Жыл бұрын
The pattern is nice, but without some sort of bevel, I bet this ring is pretty uncomfortable. 😕
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
Thanks. There are already customers who like to wear such rectangular ring shapes. But the reason I make the rings like this in the videos is that I just want to show the pattern making process. I manufacture semi-finished products from Mokume Gane and would like to give suggestions here.
@gabrielciuclaru5086
@gabrielciuclaru5086 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work m8, try to add some wave pattern on them , they get stunning beautyfull...
@AndyFromBeaverton
@AndyFromBeaverton Жыл бұрын
Question: At 7:26 couldn't you pass a metal nail file between the two joints to get the thinnest joint possible or do you need a rough surface for the solder?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
It doesn't need a rough surface. The surface should be clean and the ends should be as close together as possible. But the solder needs a little gap to flow (capillary effect). But you can do that a little better than I did in this example. The soldering gap is a bit wider here than I would have liked.
@AndyFromBeaverton
@AndyFromBeaverton Жыл бұрын
@@mokumegane thanks!
@joyceeberner
@joyceeberner Жыл бұрын
Beautiful! What was it that you brushed on at the end?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
@@joyceeberner I use this patina solution for quick coloring: mokume-gane-shop.at/collections/patina/products/baldwins-patina
@markmanning2921
@markmanning2921 Жыл бұрын
maybe if you could start somewhere other than the MIDDLE of the process?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
The semi-finished products for sale are produced in large slabs on sinter presses. I would like to show in the videos what you can do with the already finished semi-finished products. Just as a suggestion. We manufacture panels of 150 x150mm. Also individually layered according to your needs: mokume-gane-shop.at/collections/massgefertigtes-halbzeug-neu You get a lot of rings out of it and that's why this process is not shown here. And not in all other videos either. Thanks for the input I will explain that in the future in the description. Here: kzfaq.info/sun/PLhm0YW70I3mgkDeYIRn0_xRl4yR-Y2_mr I show you in great detail how to weld Mokume Gane in a simple way. It's in German (since my English isn't good enough for that) but it should be okay with subtitles.
@mertali5564
@mertali5564 Жыл бұрын
Very nice work but i will never wear a steel ring if your finger got swollen it s over
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
You can cut it open with a small cutting disc or diamond saw and water cooling. HSS tools like those used to cut gold rings will not work. Yes, it is generally not a good idea to wear rings that are too tight.
@woelund66
@woelund66 Жыл бұрын
Was ist das blaue womit Sie die Ringe einpinseln
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
Baldwins Patina: mokume-gane-shop.at/collections/patina/products/baldwins-patina
@woelund66
@woelund66 Жыл бұрын
Würde bestimmt auch mit einer fräse gehen oder???
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
Ja fräsen geht sehr gut. Ganz klassich konventionell oder noch besser mit einer Kopierfräße und Schablonen oder mit CNC kann man sehr präzise Muster formen. Mit erodieren ebenfalls. Ich lerne gerade den Umgang mit den Meißel um andere Metallarbeiten ausführen zu können wo es das einfach braucht. Im Kanal von Ford Hallam kannst du hier einen Meister darin zuschauen.
@Faesharlyn
@Faesharlyn Жыл бұрын
This will look really cool as the galvanic activity starts to etch the borders, itll be interesting to revisit it in a year or two <3
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
Especially skin sweat is a problem here. Depending on the individual, it can be very aggressive and attack and eat away at the copper. I like to use Ag/Cu here because it is relatively inexpensive. And it is possible for me to demonstrate the possibilities of design. It is also a very good combination of materials to learn from. Otherwise, in the case of art objects, no change can be observed here, even after decades.
@Faesharlyn
@Faesharlyn Жыл бұрын
@@mokumegane yes, it's the sweat that provides the electrolytes to "power" the galvanic cell.. there are other Makers who have videos that explain the science and show the results.. An art piece will last, I'm glad because the forging is exquisite <3
@randomdyfbrn
@randomdyfbrn 4 ай бұрын
​@@Faesharlyn I would like to learn more and understand the subject better. Can you link some of these videos that explain the metals/coats etc ? Thank you
@Faesharlyn
@Faesharlyn 4 ай бұрын
@randomdyfbrn If you google Why you don’t want a copper and silver mokume gane ring It'll bring you to James Binnion Metal Arts, he wrote a fantastic explanation and you can decide from there where to look for more info if you like.
@MASI_forging
@MASI_forging Жыл бұрын
Such talent & skill 👏👏
@MASI_forging
@MASI_forging Жыл бұрын
The ring looks really good, nice job man 🙂🙂
@lino668
@lino668 Жыл бұрын
Super schön! Wie schützt du den Ring vor Oxidation?
@mokumegane
@mokumegane Жыл бұрын
Danke! Generell verwende ich renaissance wax zum konservieren von Oberflächen von Buntmetall. Kupfer ist bei Schmuck so eine Sache. Je nach individuelle Hautchemie kann der Schweiß es sehr stark angreifen und regelrecht wegätzen. Das ist von Mensch zu Mensch wirklich sehr unterschiedlich. Zum Üben oder wie hier um einen Vorgang zu demonstrieren ist Ag/Cu jedoch perfekt. Es ist relativ günstig und einfach zu verarbeiten. Aber schützen tue ich die Ringe nicht weiter. Ringe werden auch sehr hoch belastet. Kommen ständig mit deutlich härteren Oberflächen und mit Chemikalien in Berührung. Da hilft sowieso keine Schutzschicht.
@lino668
@lino668 Жыл бұрын
Danke für die super schnelle und ausführliche Antwort. Liebe Grüße
@psycho-logic
@psycho-logic Жыл бұрын
👍
@psycho-logic
@psycho-logic Жыл бұрын
cool👍
@HumanDesignReading
@HumanDesignReading Жыл бұрын
cool
@SnakeSnack
@SnakeSnack Жыл бұрын
Criminally underrated channel