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@ral1020
@ral1020 10 минут бұрын
Really Joe ?.. Bonham had amazing feel and pocket. He was a great drummer. And Page: Listen to Led Zeppelin II. “Where’s the one Jimmy” dopey remark. Page’s genius and contribution to music AND guitar playing can’t be understated. That said: His live playing got sloppy as he got more into drugs.
@gillan5
@gillan5 Күн бұрын
My British drummer of all time is Mr. Ian Paice. Bonham was a goddam good drummer no more no less- great hype about him which I never understood. Carl Palmer, Bruford, Collins, Alan White, Appice, Dunbar, Powell to me were much more important than the only hard hitting Bonham. Like Ginger said:Bonham could not swing a minute.-so Joe The Drummer is right. But anyhow: how can you speak more than 1 hour about a band who does not exist for 40 years? Zeppelin is history. So Kudos to DPurple who have a new album and are still touring around the World.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 22 сағат бұрын
@@gillan5 thanks. Paice is one of my faves too. Aynsley Dunbar is an incredible drummer who doesn't get his due. Good point about existing and not existing 😁
@shirleymental4189
@shirleymental4189 Күн бұрын
Andy thinks Vinny is the best drummer ever, so he's being diplomatic here. This guy I find extremely unlikeable. I won't be back.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Күн бұрын
@@shirleymental4189 thanks for your honest feedback 😁
@fridaykr
@fridaykr 3 күн бұрын
Thank you. There aren't a lot of videos breaking down Tony Allen grooves.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 күн бұрын
@@fridaykr glad you enjoyed it. More to follow. 😁
@jupitermoongauge4055
@jupitermoongauge4055 4 күн бұрын
Bonham played drums more musically than any other rock drummer. That's the difference. You can talk about technique all you like but its musicality that counts.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 4 күн бұрын
@@jupitermoongauge4055 I would agree but the issue of who is most musical is entirely subjective 😁
@vicolemos
@vicolemos 6 күн бұрын
Great tutorial, thanks a lot!
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 6 күн бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad you found it helpful 🙂
@ericallen6576
@ericallen6576 8 күн бұрын
Most drummers who worship Bonham do so b/c they are old, and listening to Zeppelin takes them back to their youth...back before mortgages, taxes, divorce, and working jobs they hate. He was a great rock drummer, and that is ALL he was. He did not take himself nearly as seriously as all the sycophants who scream endlessly about how "great" he was. I have more admiration for musicians who evolve and grow and look for new things to play; cannot say much for a player who mastered one style, and never did anything else.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 8 күн бұрын
@@ericallen6576 thanks. I don't think the man himself would have agreed with this level of worship. He seemed pretty unassuming and sort of a solid bloke.
@vladdrakul7851
@vladdrakul7851 10 күн бұрын
Sounds like a combination of a Ginger Baker, Pete Townsend and Keith Richards RANT. As someone who was from those times the later generations just don't get it. All technique, forgetting, SOUND and FEEL. Bonham and Ringo. The opening track of LZ I changed Rock drumming like Hendrix changed guitars! Wow Alan, you are mad to only appreciate the recording rather than those sharp tight triplets and pounding bass drums. I'm 63 and love jazz etc btw. Joe who does not appreciate the great talent even dissing Page's production (oh wow 'so there is SOMETHING, he is good at'). Robert Palmer?? SAD!
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 10 күн бұрын
The conversation is about the silliness of lionising this one bloke above all others. If people think this or that artiste is the bee's knees, more power to them. But a drummer is not a deity and it's perfectly alright for someone with little to no interest in a particular artiste to dismiss them or say whatever they like. That's the whole point of the thing. What you think about something is entirely your business and by and large a subjective matter. I am not obliged to appreciate anything. Neither are you obliged to appreciate Hermeto Pascoal or whatever. We don't need deities, it doesn't serve us. FWIW the erudite guest is called Andy Edwards. Please check out his channel, it's often very good 😊
@vladdrakul7851
@vladdrakul7851 10 күн бұрын
@@Joethedrummer I am not into 'deities' either. I am into music and for me technique is great just like having more colours in one's pallet. However the other half is the FEEL and SOUND, as opposed too the 'capacity of the musician', instead of focusing on the capacity of the piece itself. That is where Bonham shines. Precise and fluid if mostly not flashy. He keeps things simple intentionally while putting in flashes of speed all thundering in a vibrating flow. Too many drummers IMHO like OVERDOING it by showing off and thus getting in the way of the piece itself. For some that is a great thing, for others it is a distraction. I LOVE Hendrix, in particular the Band of Gypsies and later stuff more and by that time he had really tired of showing off. What I want as a listener is to HEAR something fantastic. Miles loved that stuff for a good reason. Hendrix created that band inspired by Bonham's drumming while Buddy Miles later the same year played with John McLaughlin ('Marbles' 1970). It is all great music and all connected. I am no fan of Opera and could not stand listening to 5 hours of 'Parcifal' but I can still see what a great composer Wagner was ('Ride of the Valkeyrie' +).
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 10 күн бұрын
@@vladdrakul7851 thanks for your detailed responses. I don't think there's anything to disagree with there. Neither Andy (I'm pretty sure) nor me would argue that technical prowess is the key to artistry. The jumping off point of the conversation was the issue about certain artists being held in a state of disproportionate regard. Anyway, it was a spontaneous conversation and not meant to be a well presented thesis. In fact the intention here was to explore how making "content" that ruffles people's feathers is an effective way of generating interest and "success" on KZfaq. It's been a good demonstration that that's indeed the case 😂
@vladdrakul7851
@vladdrakul7851 10 күн бұрын
@@Joethedrummer I appreciate your respectful replies to my respectful if contentious comments. Yeah I LIVE music, compose, produce, sing and play everything from 12 string acoustic (thanks Jimmy Page and Leo Kottke), Fender jazz bass, Strat lead and rhythm, electronic cello, vocals, organ etc. Ex chorister and violinist. Studied Afro American jazz under Bill Cole (Miles Davis expert and author, professor, musician) and love everything from Vivaldi, Cab Calloway thru the Beatles, kd Lang to Depeche Mode and the Police. All a universe of sound to me. Makes life worth living when the shit hits the fan. Have a good life, it was a nice constructive conversation IMHO.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 10 күн бұрын
@@vladdrakul7851 ah. Sounds like you would have a lot more to say on these topics then 😁 I'm glad you found the conversation interesting. Thanks for commenting and adding something meaningful to that 😁
@Tdrums8
@Tdrums8 11 күн бұрын
I just wanted to leave my opinion about Bonham ...What also made him great is that he was great from Zeppelin. His bombastic swagger fit those songs ..Hes like a heavy Ringo .All those other drummers that are technically better would not fit zeppelin ..Bill Buford you said was better but would not fit in that band .Thats like putting Peart in the Beatles those songs would not have that magic ..Bonzo was the drummer for that band and no one else even if they were better .Thats something else thats over looked and thats another reason why Bonham was great and not over rated when the smoke clears its about the music that he left us ...Stay well
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 10 күн бұрын
For sure. Bear in mind Andy, the guest is the one with all the clever knowledge 😁
@FloydSmithjrTheattitude
@FloydSmithjrTheattitude 17 күн бұрын
Where to begin. First of all Im a Bonham disciple so there’s some bias there. Ive learned over the years that comparing musicians, drummers, guitarists, whatever is a bit ridiculous. They are just people expressing themselves. Yes, we all have our influences. The key to becoming a great musician or anything else for that matter is you have to stop trying to be someone else and start, learn how to be yourself. A jason bonham interview, he said his father taught him, paraphrasing, “Don’t worry about all that stuff. Just learn how to keep a straight forward beat” Success: Being with the right people, in the right place, at the right time. How many great musicians we will never know about have fallen through the cracks and given up because those 3 things just didn’t line up? A great drummer who in my opinion doesn’t get talked about enough, Danny Seraphine from the band Chicago. Listen to some 70’s Chicago and pay attention to the drumming. Jeff Beck’s freeway jam is a fascinating drum track to listen to. I think people need to lighten up and have an appreciation for all the great music from the last hundred years, and even before that. Consider yourself lucky to have had the privilege to be a witness to it.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 15 күн бұрын
Thanks. I don't disagree with anything there although I am obviously not a disciple of the same fellow 😀
@swaveleno
@swaveleno 20 күн бұрын
Tony invented what ? U most be crazy 😂
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 19 күн бұрын
Everyone is crazy comrade
@frederico_flores
@frederico_flores 18 күн бұрын
u invented
@gregbear123
@gregbear123 21 күн бұрын
Love these lessons. Thanks heaps!
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 21 күн бұрын
@@gregbear123 thanks, I'm glad you liked it. Highway Chile is on the way.
@drummer78
@drummer78 22 күн бұрын
You are my favorite KZfaq drum instructor. Your teaching style is easy going and you break down parts nicely.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 22 күн бұрын
Thank you. I am both honoured and flattered. Let me know if there's anything you'd like to see me cover.
@drummer78
@drummer78 22 күн бұрын
@@Joethedrummer I’ve always been curious about the drum part on Little Feet’s song “Dixie Chicken”.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 21 күн бұрын
@@drummer78 great suggestion. I e been pondering doing some Ritchie Heyward stuff. One of my all time favourites 😁
@pedrosapo907
@pedrosapo907 22 күн бұрын
Excelente, greetings from Brazil!
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 22 күн бұрын
Obrigado 😁
@pal4597
@pal4597 23 күн бұрын
Thanks! Check out Chris on the Arc Angels album. Great playing, great album.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 23 күн бұрын
@@pal4597 thanks for the recommendation, I haven't listened to them before 😁
@pal4597
@pal4597 23 күн бұрын
One of my favourite snare sounds on a record! 😊
@davehall8584
@davehall8584 24 күн бұрын
fantastic breakdown!
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 24 күн бұрын
@@davehall8584 thank you, I'm glad you liked it 😁
@p1rcus
@p1rcus 26 күн бұрын
Hallo! Great lessons! What is your snare drum?
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 26 күн бұрын
Thank you. Probably a Supra or an Acrolite. Can't remember TBH.
@elliottcovert3796
@elliottcovert3796 29 күн бұрын
The guy who made this video is being an evasive ass the whole time. He starts by saying he doesn't want to put down Bonham's musicianship but then proceeds to dismiss it backhandedly and damn it with faint praise at every possible opportunity and in the comments to the video. The reason Bonham is the default pick for everyone's favorite rock drummer is that his groove was beyond comparison. It's not just how the drums were recorded, Andy is wrong about that. The same groove exists in all the early live recordings, which Jimmy Page didn't engineer. It's not about the fancy beats like The Crunge or the herta on Stairway, it's the fact that he could play a completely ordinary 4/4 beat and make it the funkiest thing ever. Not long ago I was at a public event full of 20-somethings, who were not born until way, way after Zeppelin disbanded. They come from the hip-hop/EDM generation. I bet a significant number of them had never heard of Led Zeppelin. "Whole Lotta Love" came on the PA system (it was a very good system) and all of them started shaking their asses. That's why he was great. Ian Paice is an excellent drummer but he never made anyone, much less kids young enough to be his grandchildren, do that. He also tried to jam way too many notes into his fills.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 29 күн бұрын
@@elliottcovert3796 the guitar riff made them go. This is exactly the kind of bonkers thing about Bonham that perplexes me. It's fine if you like his playing or you like Zeppelin. Be well and enjoy. But it's a guy playing the drums OK with a band that got very big. Why has this taken over every drum related thing? Bonham Bonham.
@elliottcovert3796
@elliottcovert3796 29 күн бұрын
Actually the member of Zeppelin said that most of their songs started with a beat from Bonham. The drums made them go. Led Zeppelin isn’t a guy playing drums OK. It’s a band with a drummer who had the best groove of all time. Take any Led Zeppelin song and nobody is going to get the grooves to percolate like Bonham. I’ve seen Danny Carey try. He gave it an admirable go but Bonham’s funk and thunder weren’t there. If you tried, you might hit the right notes but it wouldn’t make the aforementioned teenagers shake their asses. You can’t possibly make a video purporting to say why you don’t think Bonham is what he’s cracked up to be, put him down at every opportunity and then act like you don’t care. Obviously you do, that’s why you made the video. You seem like a bit of a cream puff which may explain why Led Zeppelin doesn’t appeal to you. Same reason my grandma didn’t like ‘em.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 29 күн бұрын
If you perceive that this particular drummer had the best groove of all time, there isn't an objective objection to make to that. But that that is a commonly held view by a considerable proportion of rock music fans and drummers in particular, I find it entirely bonkers. You've seen Danny Carey try? Well, that's that then😂 I am niggled by the apparent mass hysteria about Zeppelin in general, the extent to which this particular mediocre (to be polite) band dominates the interests of the rock music world perplexes me. It's a personal bugbear to have to hear about Bonham all the bloody time to such a disproportionate extent. I can't find much that interests me there and it's fun to have a go at a sacred cow especially since it's so ridiculous that this sort of thing gets so much more engagement than stuff I personally think is more interesting and valuable. I don't know what it means to be a cream puff. If anything, I am more of a spicy tofu stir-fry. I assume you are a meat and potato stew with leeks and not too much salt and pepper 😁 Thanks for your in depth comment. I do appreciate it 🙏
@TheAvegh
@TheAvegh Ай бұрын
End of the series reached. Thanks! Awesome way for me to get started.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 29 күн бұрын
Brilliant. I'm glad you liked it. Let me know if there's anything you'd like to see next
@TheAvegh
@TheAvegh Ай бұрын
Been a bit sloppy with the counting so far (despite all your encouragement), but couldn't get passed this one without..
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
@@TheAvegh As with all things, consistency pays off. People often will avoid learning to count and then find it a real drag. If you do it a bit here and there but not to let it feel like a drag, eventually it will click. It doesn't take so long and it's a super useful tool. Singing too 😁
@TheAvegh
@TheAvegh Ай бұрын
Another great video Joe. Can't believe I'm using all 4 limbs now, two grip variants, and all 8 of my abominations.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment. Have you followed the whole series?
@TheAvegh
@TheAvegh Ай бұрын
Yes I did. Bought a practice pad 4 weeks ago and learned some rudiments. Promised myself a kit if I still enjoyed the pad after 3 weeks. Which I did. Since then basically only watched your beginners series and practiced from there. Trying to master each clip before watching the next.
@megcefail6730
@megcefail6730 Ай бұрын
I’m having a great time watching these videos!
@TheAvegh
@TheAvegh Ай бұрын
Perfect to the Eye if the Tiger :)
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
Indeed it is 😀
@chrismorley5862
@chrismorley5862 Ай бұрын
A lot of this conversation is technical ability vs feel playing what is right for the part - as Andy articulates very well. This does not just apply to drums, most of the very fast, technically amazing more recent guitarists, perhaps beginning with the likes of Van Halen, leave me cold when compared with the earlier guitarists - Gallagher, Kossov, Trower, Beck, Page, Moore, Blackmore, and of course Hendrix, who had feel, and tone and played more interesting fewer notes + mistakes. It's the classic Ringo problem in assessing the relative simplicity of his drumming vs its beautiful fit for the songs. I read somewhere Bonham knew he was not technically as good as certain contemporary drummers and that was a pressure that contributed to his drinking. I like the Keith Moon quote - “I’m the greatest Keith Moon-type drummer in the world.” It sums up the issue of trying to attribute greatness.
@Winky8723
@Winky8723 Ай бұрын
Been playing percussion for nearly 8 years now but never properly learned how to flam with my left hand! Thanks for the great video
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
Oh. Great to hear it's helpful for others too. Do you play hand percussion?
@ethanfitzpatrick309
@ethanfitzpatrick309 Ай бұрын
That’s why I’m here but when it comes down to it. Practice practice practice
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
@@ethanfitzpatrick309 Consistency is key 😀
@Winky8723
@Winky8723 Ай бұрын
@@Joethedrummer No, I did a little in school band now just a drummer
@TheAvegh
@TheAvegh Ай бұрын
Just setup my first abomination of an ekit. This is the first video I am playing along with. All the way till the end! Love your humor.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
Thanks so much, I'm glad you liked it. Let me know how you get on. The whole electric drums thing, it's complicated... 😵‍💫
@BrotherNoDoubt
@BrotherNoDoubt Ай бұрын
What a tosser.
@jeffgreen4903
@jeffgreen4903 Ай бұрын
Excellent breakdown! Thank you for sharing your experience 😊
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
Thanks is for the feedback. Enjoy. Let me know how you get on with it 😀
@garygomesvedicastrology
@garygomesvedicastrology Ай бұрын
I think Bonham (and other cultural icons like Hendrix and Joplin, for instance) although they were brilliant in their way, are lionized not only because of their talent but also because they died young and were popular when they died. We never saw them develop or change directions as some other musicians did. I remember in the late 1960s and early 1970s the number of greatest (you name the instrument) players rotated on a weekly basis. The fact that they were in immensely popular bands helped solidify their public image. A lot of drummers took inspiration from Bonham because he was in an extremely popular group. The natural inclination is to say the most popular is the best. I have seen that repeatedly through the years. The guy was talented and influenced a lot of people. That doesn't mean he was the greatest rock drummer. If you like Bonham and he is best for you, please feel so. I get people's reactions to reactions that seem like nitpicking. But there are legitimate criticisms that can be made of any drummer's style. There are and were SO MANY (not yelling/just emphasizing) talented players out there, it seems self defeating to get offended when someone points out the limitations of a hero. We are all human; we all have flaws--even rock gods; especially rock gods, in my humble opinion because we are looking at music through a very narrow lens.
@garygomesvedicastrology
@garygomesvedicastrology Ай бұрын
0:14 It is easy to forget that Baker held the greatest drummer in the world spot for two - three years before he ended up leaving super popular groups. (He didn't merit that position, because there is no such thing.) Being in a super popular group adds loads to the reputation as being the best. It goes with the territory of being most popular.
@garygomesvedicastrology
@garygomesvedicastrology Ай бұрын
Bonham was great at what he did... but I really never liked his feel. I respect all the folks who love Bonham. I really liked him on Led Zeppelin's first album; I was tired of him by Led Zeppelin 2. It's taste. I loved some individual performances (like Kashmir and Immigrant Song, a few more) but in general I found him too predictable for me personally. This is an individual observation... and I never really liked his feel, especially after LZ 3.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
Thanks for your comments. It's horses for courses isn't it 😁
@garygomesvedicastrology
@garygomesvedicastrology Ай бұрын
Seems a shame you can't recall Mickey Waller and Tony Newman from the first two Jeff Beck albums. Waller's work on Shapes of Things and Ain't Superstitious are two of my favorite drum performances ever.
@danieldunbobbin8804
@danieldunbobbin8804 Ай бұрын
Thank you v much, i was taught to open the high hat as i left them to leave a ring a beat as i went to the tom fill.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
Ah. I always played it like that, it seems the natural thing to do but having taught it so many times, I noticed one day that Ringo kept the hats closed so I'm somewhat following that. I don't think it matters, do what sounds right to you.
@seancassidy674
@seancassidy674 Ай бұрын
Bill Ward definitely has a strong following and is in a similar category as Bonham - but he suffered from mediocre cardboard drum production. That's why the now widely available Sabbath Paris recording is so popular - the drums finally boom and you can hear the ferocity (and also the quieter dynamics) that that don't come across all that well in the studio recordings. Grohl is a basher in a way similar to Bonzo at times was but Bonham did had rudiments - certainly not at a Cobham or Weckl level - but much more than Grohl - who is 100% primal behind the kit.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
Yes indeed. Ward I would prefer to listen to any day, as well as his band. But if he was lionised as the greatest rock drummer ever I would also balk at that. Likewise Grohl, I like him, came up with some nice consistent parts, great for learners.
@dominicstadlinwankhar9168
@dominicstadlinwankhar9168 Ай бұрын
Thank you soooo...much I just learnt these simple strokes though I play in my band these are good
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer Ай бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful 😀
@rayboreham2648
@rayboreham2648 2 ай бұрын
Your usual excellent lesson, Joe. So, is this the approach Murray Spivak used when teaching smooth doubles? I assume it is since you started this lesson referring to how you learned doubles watching him, but I just wanted to verify that's the case. Thanks again and more, please. Cheers. 🍻
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Hi Ray, thanks as always for your kind feedback. Sorry if my explanation was not entirely clear. I learned this stuff from several sources. Initially it was a DVD called Murray Spivack, A Lesson With Louis Bellson. It's absolutely brilliant but trying to get the hang of stuff like this off a DVD, especially from the old days when they didn't exactly know what they are doing (DVD wise) is tricky. Plus even with the best video making chops, you really need a teacher there to sort you out. Following that, I watched the Chad Wackerman series on Drumchannel. He was a student of Spivack and explained the approach in a lot of detail. I watched it many times and experimented a lot with the whole thing. After that I also watched Chuck Silverman's video on hand technique. He studied with Spivack and another guy with a similar but different approach who's name eludes me at present. So I have studied the method off a bunch of videos and tried to work out what the hell is going on. Meanwhile, many years back I was under the tutelage of a guy called Phil Solomon who mentored me when I started teaching full time. He taught me about the stick being in line with the forearm. But it never quite clicked for me until I had a few lessons with a guy called Dave Elitch and he sort of squared the circle about a bunch of stuff including the doubles. Sorry for such a wordy answer but I guess my point is that I have amalgamated my approach from a bunch of different sources. I think it's a very practical way to do doubles although I can't claim any pukka lineage to the masters and am clearly far from virtuosic. I will make a few more videos on the topic and include some kit stuff to demonstrate how it sounds in a proper context. I hope you follow along and let me know what you think 😁
@bdn8161
@bdn8161 2 ай бұрын
Thanks man. Love C. Layton. U really broke this down well. Any chance u could break down Couldn’t Stand the Weather? Thank you
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the compliment. That's a great suggestion.
@robertwheatley2471
@robertwheatley2471 2 ай бұрын
23:40 ... exactly. John Bonham had a SIGNATURE sound, which the interviewer doesn't appreciate and from his remarks is obviously not a Zeppelin fan. It's all about finding a reason to bash Bonham. He wasn't the most technically proficient drummer but so what. That wasn't required in Zeppelin songs. Again he had a signature heavy sound and was an ideal fit for the band. Other drummers could have done the drumming but it wouldn't have sounded the same. Guys like Neal Peart were certainly more technically proficient almost to a fault of being too mechanical-sounding having played the drums for an additional 40 YEARS.....another drummer who never gets mentioned and who is criminally underrated is Bill Ward from Black Sabbath.
@TheAvegh
@TheAvegh 2 ай бұрын
Been watching quite a few videos by you Joe. Really enjoy how you take the time to explain. I'm an absolute beginner, and those 10 rudiments in 5 minute videos are useless to me.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, I am really glad you found my videos helpful. Let me know how you get on 😁
@Lupotkd
@Lupotkd 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Very helpful.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it 😁
@iandavis-fj2ty
@iandavis-fj2ty 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir , another great lesson, i ve been practicing double s and triples alot lately , so the timing s great , after a bit of practice the penny finally dropped , its great fun when they get going , thanks again for the great lessons. Blessings from Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 .
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I hope what I covered here adds something to the process for you. A bit more on this topic to follow.
@iandavis-fj2ty
@iandavis-fj2ty 2 ай бұрын
@@Joethedrummer Thank you for the reply sir , your lessons are a great source of education for me , your a great educator sir , many thanks and blessings from Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿.
@joshuaworthy4563
@joshuaworthy4563 2 ай бұрын
I know Jimi Hendrix was proud of his choice. Mitch Mitchell!
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Mitch was entirely worthy 🙏
@lomanovkarshokivasky
@lomanovkarshokivasky 2 ай бұрын
Drummers and other creatures? 💀
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Yep😁
@kirkgray6949
@kirkgray6949 2 ай бұрын
Bonham started great then became a sloppy drunk drummer…sad really…was so good but coke and alcohol poisoning took him just like Keith
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
It's very sad. An all too common result of being in the spotlight and having, I guess, no boundaries?
@shadesthedrummer
@shadesthedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Great video! I watched all the way through! You both are such a wealth of knowledge. I always love hearing more opinions on how to be a professional drummer in the modern age as well as open handed drumming
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Glad you liked it. Harry is a very interesting and knowledgeable guy. Are you open handed as well?
@jamietourle5348
@jamietourle5348 2 ай бұрын
Dave was an awesome guitarist and singer when we were 17 in our band Anderida! I used to pick you up for practice down the golden martlett 😊 The boy has done good!!
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
He's really done good and earned every bit of it 😀 He's still a great singer and guitarist too.
@martyhopkirk6826
@martyhopkirk6826 2 ай бұрын
This is the first video of yours I've watched. What a lovely, encouraging teaching style you have!
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, that's high praise indeed 😁🙏
@SoundScientist1
@SoundScientist1 2 ай бұрын
You working too hard chap. Tony used exteme efficiency of movement & caressed the Afrobeat polyrhythms out of the drum kit.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Particularly when I'm making videos I seem to work too hard 😂
@ronymunoz2966
@ronymunoz2966 2 ай бұрын
So glad the algorithm brought me here. Love Mitch & Jimi of course too. Great lesson & much appreciated 👍🏾
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it 😁
@betterguitarthanyesterday3232
@betterguitarthanyesterday3232 2 ай бұрын
One thing is driving me insane is i cant get my head round the actual wrist, hand, arm motion behind double strokes. A friend tried to explain "oh you just bounce the sticks!" and would then play at warp speed on a practice pad. I ending up getting cranky and whacking him wirh the sticks. Hes 64 and im 50 so the fact the "lesson" degenerated into such a juvenile tantrum give you an idea of how much this drove me insane! I still cant do it without it feeling like im trying to do fast single strokes that are mostly coming from arm movement.
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Ah. There is a whole topic here and not exactly one straightforward approach. The old codger was sort of right but it's helpful to not try to jump straight in at the deep end as it were. I thought I'd made a video about the way I approach this thorny topic but apart from a short, I haven't. I'll endeavour to address this in the near future and see if I can bring something useful to the table.