Part of the problem is, in the West, people who used to be a "volk" are now anatomized, regional, tribal, identified by gender types and "race" (a weird concept to begin with), and they lap it all up. What they used to have in common as a People is missing, so anything goes, nothing has any firm meaning, all is fleeting, fashion of the moment, liquid, and neuroticizing. And we call it multiculturalism.

Many of the whitest here have zinc in them. I dont see the issue if applied thinly and in combination with other pigments

All that performed that best in terms of yellowing were those that contained Zinc. Zinc had always been used to reduce the opacity of titanium and because is decreases yellowing. While this is all good, it comes with a cost. People say zinc cracks, thats the least of our worries. IT DELAMINATES! Titanium is best used without zinc. Sure it wil yellow in the dark but much will reverse in the light. Companies like Natural Pigments/Rublev and Golden/Williamsburg has given great advice about these issues. One of the most useful is the to paint thinly rather than impasto which is why lots of your swatches are so yellow the thicker the paint.

Também sou Português, e interesso-me bastante pela Pintura a Óleo. Achei o seu video bastante interessante.

Interesting experiments, well done. The reason partly that zinc white is added is to reduce the 'chalkiness' of titanium. Recently read that zinc used on a rigid surface with an oil base ground is fairly safe compared to an acrylic gesso ground.

this is so insightful！ I have learnt so much thanks😊

Thank you

And I thought that acrylic did darken more than oil paints - but this panel seems to indicate otherwise!!!

I did not know that titanium white may darken when it dries ... in the dark. This seems counterintuitive! =D

Obrigada pela partilha

very nice

amazing art❤ keep it up

Amazing art

Very nice to see Fawaz on the show.

Beautiful work. Wish more artists would do exhibits like this.

❤

Muito bonito

Quem me dera poder partilhar tanta beleza e simpatia dos seus alunos. Muitos parabéns. Saudades da Luz

😀 Promo sm

Que bonito

Here is what schmincke said : In our colors 10 013 Titanium Opaque White, 11 114 Titanium White and 41 102 Titanium White, we still use a small but necessary proportion (well below 10%) of zinc oxide, as zinc oxide takes on important technical functions. We take advantage of the ability of zinc oxide to increase the surface hardness of the oil films formed in the special formulation of the titanium white oil paints. For all colors in the range, we formulate with combinations of linseed oil, safflower oil and walnut oil for type 10 MUSSINI® or linseed oil and sunflower oil for type 11 Norma®PROFESSIONAL. We make an exception for our white colors. In order to keep yellowing as low as possible, we do not use linseed oil for these colors, but mainly safflower oil (type 10 MUSSINI®) and sunflower oil for type 11 Norma®PROFESSIONAL and type 41 AKADEMIE® oil. In contrast to dried linseed oil films, the dried oil film of safflower and sunflower oil is softer. This softness of the color films formed is compensated for by the zinc oxide. However, it is important to ensure that the concentration of zinc oxide is precisely adjusted to avoid embrittlement of the color films formed. A positive side effect is the additional improvement in yellowing resistance, which is much more noticeable without the presence of zinc oxide. In addition, pure zinc white, which has been used in painting for decades due to its special coloring properties, is an irreplaceable and technically proven color. Without the use of zinc oxide, in the long-standing Kremser white tone, the special properties such as drying, color strength and coloring of real Kremser white could not be achieved. In the colored shades, zinc oxide is used to adjust the color; here, too, as with all colors, the overall recipe must be considered.

Thanks Nelson, very helpful. It's been three years since you've posted it, I wonder how the swatches look right now. Could you please keep us updated with a short new video?

Thanks for this video Nelson, really interesting. I've subscribed. Given that Daniel Smith have discontinued their traditional oils, which titanium white would you recommend for people based in the UK/Europe? Would it be another titanium white from this test, or have you done further 'yellowing' tests since this?

GRACIAS!!!

This is amazing.

Im not sure how i got recommended this, but good luck! That sounds like an awesome job. Though I hope you don't end up as the next Khashoggi haha 😅

Hi Nelson! Thank you so much for this class. I have a question. Do you have book references about what you said about Charles Bargue and Vincent Van Gogh, and about the metodologys (what you said about the exams, how old, and the type of materials, etc) in the art academys of 19th century? Thank you

No, it's like doing a painting for an even more evil, corrupt to the core, murderous North Korean leader.

How are you allowed inside are you a muslim?

Cute cat😊 And a black one too. I believe they're good luck, so I wish you all the best! X

Muito místico e mágico mesmo, um santuário, embora túmulos um local perfeito para a época……cada lugar incrível …… ser humano tem uma criatividade ,quando necessário, que não tem limites…..podemos nos conectar e sermos abençoados por energias , amorosidade, lucidez…sempre.

this is very interesting, thank you so much for sharing. I am looking forward for more stories like that

Great video! I wish Daniel Smith didn't discontinue their traditional oil paints! Now they only sell a water-mixable version, so further tests would have to be done to see if it was the same quality. Old Holland uses a ton of zinc in their mixes which I'm a little disappointed by. :( No idea if this is true, but I read that Dark Yellowing is reversible if you stick the painting in sunlight for a few hours (or keep it in normal lighting conditions, presumably with UV light) - in your experience, have you found this to be the case? I've seen so many paintings in museums that *weren't* yellowed that were hundreds of years old, so it's surprising to see on your test strips!

beautiful! thank you for sharing. wishing you many many many more exhibitions in the nearest future and I hope to be there to see your wonderful art

Not a word of the walnut oil effect in all of this.

Amazing and powerful voice! She can really hit some notes🪭 Love the vibrating of that strange instrument it travels through my bones even! 🧚‍♂️💫💫

I really, really enjoyed watching all three videos, thank you Nelson. Did you not make part 4?

Bummer. You did not show any OIL white that did not crack or yellow. Did the Acrylic paint makers mafia get to you?

I think the the human is the left side and the Divine is the right side.

Thank you

Obrigada, Nelson Ferreira.

It's less than 10 minutes I'm listening, and I just felt in love, as a canadian everything you're saying is something I defenitely feel and suffer everyday, this is a priceless video I was lost ❤

, the cracking is always related to the amount of medium but Zinc White is not archivable.but is there anyone here that uses pure white?I don't think so

And, of course Daniel Smith changed their formulation/chemistry in 2023. All of their oils are now water soluble.

Hey, we see cracking and delamination as a problem, but every corporate manager would love it. If we were like Samsung or Apple we would now use zinc-white EXCLUSIVELY, so our paintings would have built in planned obsolescence like everything else. Collectors would have to buy new paintings every few years to replace those that cracked and delaminated :D. profit!

Zinc is great, looks like all your samples have dark yellowed

regarding multichanneling, i got my Facebook snd Instagram connected together via META, and when i post something on one of them, it's automatically posted on the other, unless i program it otherwise.. to be scheduled for later, for example.. i know my answer is way too late, but at least i responded as i haven't see any other comment on this regard.. thank Nelson, your class was great, and finally i found something that sounds really systemic, that can build up drawing skills..

All titanium white will yellow. Using a lighter drying oil will help. Additives will also help (chalk/marble dust). or juet add 1-2% zinc. pure titanium white has no body and is super long and runny. the zinc helps with that too.