Part of the problem is, in the West, people who used to be a "volk" are now anatomized, regional, tribal, identified by gender types and "race" (a weird concept to begin with), and they lap it all up. What they used to have in common as a People is missing, so anything goes, nothing has any firm meaning, all is fleeting, fashion of the moment, liquid, and neuroticizing. And we call it multiculturalism.
@elizabethkellerman969Ай бұрын
Many of the whitest here have zinc in them. I dont see the issue if applied thinly and in combination with other pigments
@jahjahiscallin32372 ай бұрын
All that performed that best in terms of yellowing were those that contained Zinc. Zinc had always been used to reduce the opacity of titanium and because is decreases yellowing. While this is all good, it comes with a cost. People say zinc cracks, thats the least of our worries. IT DELAMINATES! Titanium is best used without zinc. Sure it wil yellow in the dark but much will reverse in the light. Companies like Natural Pigments/Rublev and Golden/Williamsburg has given great advice about these issues. One of the most useful is the to paint thinly rather than impasto which is why lots of your swatches are so yellow the thicker the paint.
@nelsonferreirauk2 ай бұрын
Natural Pigments, Golden etc give excellent advice. If you watch the whole video you’ll see that the one I recommend to paint on panel doesn’t contain zinc. And it didn’t yellow at all.
@MrSilva9602 ай бұрын
Também sou Português, e interesso-me bastante pela Pintura a Óleo. Achei o seu video bastante interessante.
@nelsonferreirauk2 ай бұрын
Obrigado! Fico feliz de saber isso. Bem-vindo ao canal. Tenho um outro canal em português, se preferir.
@pollyester66272 ай бұрын
Interesting experiments, well done. The reason partly that zinc white is added is to reduce the 'chalkiness' of titanium. Recently read that zinc used on a rigid surface with an oil base ground is fairly safe compared to an acrylic gesso ground.
@EmilyTam-ul7fl3 ай бұрын
this is so insightful! I have learnt so much thanks😊
@nelsonferreirauk2 ай бұрын
My pleasure Emily!
@chriscw14433 ай бұрын
Thank you
@SigurdBraathen4 ай бұрын
And I thought that acrylic did darken more than oil paints - but this panel seems to indicate otherwise!!!
@SigurdBraathen4 ай бұрын
How does e.g. Daniel Smith oil paint compare to acrylic when dried with a lot of light? ... And does the frequency of light matter?
@nelsonferreirauk3 ай бұрын
That's right, oils darken much more!
@nelsonferreirauk3 ай бұрын
@@SigurdBraathen Yes, frequency matters a lot. But because art is exposed to visible light, what matters the most is the spectrum that we can see as well as UV. Acrylics should darken less than any oil.
@SigurdBraathen4 ай бұрын
I did not know that titanium white may darken when it dries ... in the dark. This seems counterintuitive! =D
@robertchilders86982 ай бұрын
I think you got flake white confused with titanium white...
@ritaribeiro67174 ай бұрын
Obrigada pela partilha
@user-xc9kn6em5j5 ай бұрын
very nice
@user-xc9kn6em5j5 ай бұрын
amazing art❤ keep it up
@internationalbreakfastclub38125 ай бұрын
Amazing art
@theartbroadcast5 ай бұрын
Very nice to see Fawaz on the show.
@tanglingheadphones5 ай бұрын
Beautiful work. Wish more artists would do exhibits like this.
@almalama33675 ай бұрын
❤
@ritaribeiro67175 ай бұрын
Muito bonito
@LuzRebelo-pe4dk5 ай бұрын
Quem me dera poder partilhar tanta beleza e simpatia dos seus alunos. Muitos parabéns. Saudades da Luz
@braxton37315 ай бұрын
😀 Promo sm
@almalama33675 ай бұрын
Que bonito
@hedonismbot32746 ай бұрын
Here is what schmincke said : In our colors 10 013 Titanium Opaque White, 11 114 Titanium White and 41 102 Titanium White, we still use a small but necessary proportion (well below 10%) of zinc oxide, as zinc oxide takes on important technical functions. We take advantage of the ability of zinc oxide to increase the surface hardness of the oil films formed in the special formulation of the titanium white oil paints. For all colors in the range, we formulate with combinations of linseed oil, safflower oil and walnut oil for type 10 MUSSINI® or linseed oil and sunflower oil for type 11 Norma®PROFESSIONAL. We make an exception for our white colors. In order to keep yellowing as low as possible, we do not use linseed oil for these colors, but mainly safflower oil (type 10 MUSSINI®) and sunflower oil for type 11 Norma®PROFESSIONAL and type 41 AKADEMIE® oil. In contrast to dried linseed oil films, the dried oil film of safflower and sunflower oil is softer. This softness of the color films formed is compensated for by the zinc oxide. However, it is important to ensure that the concentration of zinc oxide is precisely adjusted to avoid embrittlement of the color films formed. A positive side effect is the additional improvement in yellowing resistance, which is much more noticeable without the presence of zinc oxide. In addition, pure zinc white, which has been used in painting for decades due to its special coloring properties, is an irreplaceable and technically proven color. Without the use of zinc oxide, in the long-standing Kremser white tone, the special properties such as drying, color strength and coloring of real Kremser white could not be achieved. In the colored shades, zinc oxide is used to adjust the color; here, too, as with all colors, the overall recipe must be considered.
@nelsonferreirauk5 ай бұрын
It is very sad that companies are misinforming the public like this. It all sounds very romantic but it is a FACT that even 5% of zinc oxide will embritle the paint film. And if the paint is mixed with lead then even 2% is truly bad. It is also a fact that sunflower and safflower oils need siccatives - with even more detrimental effects to the final paint film. We all need to be better informed: justpaint.org/update-on-zinc/
@hedonismbot32745 ай бұрын
@@nelsonferreirauk this is their labteam. Now why should i trust anyone else before them ? Sure you can say the company is misinforming the public for financial gain which would be pretty dumb considering then all their products would fall apart and they would be DONE. Or maybe they don't care about centuries. I also do not care about a LITTLE embrittlement. I do not work on canvas. I care much more about yellowing. Why would I work with nuanced skillfull color and then just wait for my paintings to get yellow. I am really breaking my brain with thinking about oils lately... You know what I will send them your comment and the link. I asked them a second time and they said again "we don't understand the hysteria our paints have been used a long time without problems". Let's try a third time with your comment and the link. Who is that woman in the link anyways. Starts like a novel. "The cracks were sharp-edged and clean, happening while you carefully bent the paint film across the metal rod, then slowing down once you felt the slightest resistance, until suddenly it would simply snap in two, like a potato chip." Already sounds like hysteria and not like science to me i dislike that start. We also have hundred years old paintings with no cracking and lots of zinc don't we ?
@hedonismbot32745 ай бұрын
@@nelsonferreirauki think if I would say I use pw7 now instead you would say "well we do not know enough about it"?. What do you think of pw7 ? :) I am thinking to stay clear of oil painting in general (painful) that is how all this is getting on my nerves. I was in the museum lately. The pastels looked like they where just painted yesterday. The oils where yellow and cracked. Which all of them will be in enough time ANYWAYS. So does hundred years more or less even matter... isn't it also true that the scientific method used here should be questioned ? How does bending a paint film over a metal rod compare to a canvas panel or even to canvas and cardboard. 99.9% of paintings will never be bend like that am I wrong ?
@hedonismbot32745 ай бұрын
@@nelsonferreirauk but hey thanks so much for your video. I am just still confused what to do and wanted to buy oils for two months now and did not. As a figurative artist i always hear lead is so great and zinc keeps the colors better. So can you really not emulate that with titanium ? I don't use glazing. And I warm my tints up with yellows and red. I don't feel my work looks chalky in any way. Ah well my brain is exploding from this zinc thing. Oh and i cannot and would not get lead for multiple reasons. Maybe i should try golden open acrylics.
@nelsonferreirauk5 ай бұрын
@@hedonismbot3274PW7 is great, go for it! 15th Primitive Flemish paintings are the oldest oils done in the West and they are still in a great state of preservation. If technique is good, our oil paintings should look just as good 700 years from now. Bending the paint film is a valid method of measuring flexibility levels - directly proportional to the way brittle aged oil paint will crack on a canvas.
@sepidehmlk17656 ай бұрын
Thanks Nelson, very helpful. It's been three years since you've posted it, I wonder how the swatches look right now. Could you please keep us updated with a short new video?
@Rr-ty8hm6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video Nelson, really interesting. I've subscribed. Given that Daniel Smith have discontinued their traditional oils, which titanium white would you recommend for people based in the UK/Europe? Would it be another titanium white from this test, or have you done further 'yellowing' tests since this?
@nelsonferreirauk6 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's an excellent question and I must try the Rublev Titanium white and some other brands. Unfortunately, most of the other brands still contain zinc - known for causing cracking. I need to do more tests. Meanwhile, please refer to this chart: www.naturalpigments.com/artist-materials/zinc-white-oil-paint-color
@barcelonastudio6 ай бұрын
GRACIAS!!!
@Gersberms6 ай бұрын
This is amazing.
@oscarpistorius37107 ай бұрын
Im not sure how i got recommended this, but good luck! That sounds like an awesome job. Though I hope you don't end up as the next Khashoggi haha 😅
@nelsonferreirauk7 ай бұрын
Cheers Oscar, thanks for your wishes. The job is amazing indeed. All the best to us!
@juliandamaca7 ай бұрын
Hi Nelson! Thank you so much for this class. I have a question. Do you have book references about what you said about Charles Bargue and Vincent Van Gogh, and about the metodologys (what you said about the exams, how old, and the type of materials, etc) in the art academys of 19th century? Thank you
@nelsonferreirauk7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your message Julian. There is a great book that is a good starting point: The Academy and French Painting in the Nineteenth Century, by Albert Boime. I hope you enjoy it!
@SamSam-xb1ur7 ай бұрын
No, it's like doing a painting for an even more evil, corrupt to the core, murderous North Korean leader.
@kash33w7 ай бұрын
How are you allowed inside are you a muslim?
@randomaccount28907 ай бұрын
Cute cat😊 And a black one too. I believe they're good luck, so I wish you all the best! X
@elainevolonte7767 ай бұрын
Muito místico e mágico mesmo, um santuário, embora túmulos um local perfeito para a época……cada lugar incrível …… ser humano tem uma criatividade ,quando necessário, que não tem limites…..podemos nos conectar e sermos abençoados por energias , amorosidade, lucidez…sempre.
@annakriek89697 ай бұрын
this is very interesting, thank you so much for sharing. I am looking forward for more stories like that
@centradragon7 ай бұрын
Great video! I wish Daniel Smith didn't discontinue their traditional oil paints! Now they only sell a water-mixable version, so further tests would have to be done to see if it was the same quality. Old Holland uses a ton of zinc in their mixes which I'm a little disappointed by. :( No idea if this is true, but I read that Dark Yellowing is reversible if you stick the painting in sunlight for a few hours (or keep it in normal lighting conditions, presumably with UV light) - in your experience, have you found this to be the case? I've seen so many paintings in museums that *weren't* yellowed that were hundreds of years old, so it's surprising to see on your test strips!
@nelsonferreirauk7 ай бұрын
Indeed, sunlight will reverse the yellowing. The problem is when you have a basement studio - all this yellowing becomes a disaster! Thanks for your lovely message.
@centradragon7 ай бұрын
@@nelsonferreirauk At least it's reversible! If the lack of UV light causes the yellowing, I'd suggest temporarily using UVB bulbs (reptile lights) or even florescent bulbs... but the EU actually just banned these a few months ago so they might be hard to find, lol. I hope you don't have a chameleon! UVB LED lights are coming soon, so maybe that'd be an alternative?
@annakriek89697 ай бұрын
beautiful! thank you for sharing. wishing you many many many more exhibitions in the nearest future and I hope to be there to see your wonderful art
@vegasastras91948 ай бұрын
Not a word of the walnut oil effect in all of this.
@nelsonferreirauk7 ай бұрын
Walnut oil paints were not available in the UK - and this video was almost exclusively about the brands available here.
@vegasastras91947 ай бұрын
@@nelsonferreirauk Thanks for the reply.
@gdee83658 ай бұрын
Amazing and powerful voice! She can really hit some notes🪭 Love the vibrating of that strange instrument it travels through my bones even! 🧚♂️💫💫
@jasonlockhorst15058 ай бұрын
I really, really enjoyed watching all three videos, thank you Nelson. Did you not make part 4?
@jameskellam29809 ай бұрын
Bummer. You did not show any OIL white that did not crack or yellow. Did the Acrylic paint makers mafia get to you?
@nelsonferreirauk9 ай бұрын
Heheh, nothing beats lead white for flexibility in oils.
@jameskellam29809 ай бұрын
@@nelsonferreirauk Thanks for the tip! I will look into it.
@christianhoffman74079 ай бұрын
I think the the human is the left side and the Divine is the right side.
@shd33219 ай бұрын
Thank you
@beneditamenezes87569 ай бұрын
Obrigada, Nelson Ferreira.
@susiemalo88549 ай бұрын
It's less than 10 minutes I'm listening, and I just felt in love, as a canadian everything you're saying is something I defenitely feel and suffer everyday, this is a priceless video I was lost ❤
@patriciozazzini31829 ай бұрын
, the cracking is always related to the amount of medium but Zinc White is not archivable.but is there anyone here that uses pure white?I don't think so
@lordofthemound38909 ай бұрын
And, of course Daniel Smith changed their formulation/chemistry in 2023. All of their oils are now water soluble.
@pawehordyniak6369 ай бұрын
Hey, we see cracking and delamination as a problem, but every corporate manager would love it. If we were like Samsung or Apple we would now use zinc-white EXCLUSIVELY, so our paintings would have built in planned obsolescence like everything else. Collectors would have to buy new paintings every few years to replace those that cracked and delaminated :D. profit!
@nelsonferreirauk9 ай бұрын
That's right!
@richardnagele58779 ай бұрын
Zinc is great, looks like all your samples have dark yellowed
@nelsonferreirauk9 ай бұрын
Dear Richard, I teach as a visiting lecturer to several universities and art museums. It is very well known amongst the scientific community the damaging effects of zinc white in oils. All restorers know this. If you watch the video in full, you'll see that there are several whites that yellowed in despite of the zinc, and some whites didn't yellow and are zinc free.
@reemara10 ай бұрын
regarding multichanneling, i got my Facebook snd Instagram connected together via META, and when i post something on one of them, it's automatically posted on the other, unless i program it otherwise.. to be scheduled for later, for example.. i know my answer is way too late, but at least i responded as i haven't see any other comment on this regard.. thank Nelson, your class was great, and finally i found something that sounds really systemic, that can build up drawing skills..
@skrewler10 ай бұрын
All titanium white will yellow. Using a lighter drying oil will help. Additives will also help (chalk/marble dust). or juet add 1-2% zinc. pure titanium white has no body and is super long and runny. the zinc helps with that too.
@nelsonferreirauk10 ай бұрын
Thanks! It's possible to change the body of the paint without using zinc. The chances of cracking increase by about 7x when even tiny amounts of zinc are mixed into the paint. My video covers in full most brands of Titanium white, some of them yellowed beyhond belief... others still look amazing after a few years in basement conditions.