Appreciate the reply. Albeit, I'll assist is some accurate feedback. Naturally, how you option a boat can swing the price drastically, but a well equipped S220 is well under $150k like you stated. In fact, a new S240 is less than $150k retail. Yes, the Moomba make a good wakeboard wake. Actually, all three made a good wakeboard wake for majority of consumers. A new Moomba and new Supreme, similar equipped are very comparable in price. We try to be unbiased, but naturally, we prefer the whole package that Supreme offers over the comparables. Enjoy!

The boat industry just can’t say bad things online about any boat. They reserve that for the dealers! Just ask them. They only sell the best brands…

That's a tough one as we try not to bash any brand. All three boats are 'good' boats. If I had to pick my biggest grievances for each brand...it would be the following: ATX-very poor rough water ride and felt the 'cheapest' out of all three. Albeit the boat performed above my expectations in terms of watersports. Moomba-Bimini has very poor coverage as I burn easy, and cumbersome to use. Also, not a fan of Moomba/Indmar throttle in comparison to PCM/Supreme. Moomba's surf wave was least desirable in stock form out for all three, but had best wakeboard wake stock form. Supreme-wish radio was not in the screen on the boat we tested. The volume scroll bar isn't very user friendly while surfing. Albeit, they fixed this for 2024+

Have u tried it?

Thanks for watching! Our goal was to be as unbiased as possible. Albeit, Supremes are what we're used to operating on a daily basis so it's difficult to remove all bias completely. Hope you enjoyed our best efforts, and feel free to ask any follow up questions.

lol exactly! u can look up their dealership, they only sell supreme..

The Kaiyen was what we had in stock. It measures 21’5”. We felt it was a close comparison. Yes, Craz would have been ideal, but didn’t have one.

I looked at all 3 of these boats since they are all at similar price points. I went with 2021 Kaiyen (this was in 2021) and the screen has a lot of options he skipped. But frankly it should be simple to use and the Kaiyen is. The seats are awesome quality. We surf it and the wave is outstanding with only 1-2 adults in boat and NO extra lead weight. Kaiyen is a great boat.

@@bradmiklosovic7788 agreed we have a 2021 moomba kaiyen and it is insanely good wave conpared to the supream

Appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching. Statistically, that's been proven to be incorrect. In this case, the Ri230 has the appropriate amount of stock ballast, using tabs, on a deep V hull design to create the most efficient wave in the segment. Neither Malibu nor Axis can claim that using their gate system. With todays towboat world, surf gates are dated technology if you want the BEST overall experience.

@@upstate_marine lol I don’t sell Centurion. Malibu an Axis have the best tech for wake. Patent protection lol. MC X23 is no slouch she puts out a huge surf wave. Female Hawaii pro surfer in the vid on her ocean board .🍻

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lol! I understand where you're coming from. My recommendation is go demo your top 3, but I would definitely include a Ri230 if possible! I would also see which dealers provide the best service as that can make or break your experience. Best of luck!

Ri230s get compared to G23s and GS all the time. The Ri230 offers a longer, more 'pushy', more adjustable surf wave than the G23 or GS lines.

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Hey Lloyd, unfortunately our manufacturer agreements don't allow us to post the price since we have territories unlike car dealers. Thanks!

The Ri230 will be Pavati in every towboat aspect in terms of performance. Pavati makes a cool boat, but performance isn't where they shine. Thanks for watching!

Pavati is the Jersey Shore of wake boats..

best to contact your local dealer for pricing as boats are territory restricted.

Surf Gates are old technology, extra drag on the boat, more fuel consumption. Tabs are the best surf system in terms of performance, adjustability, and fuel efficiency.

@@upstate_marine Tabs are 50+ year old. Gates are 10 year old.