Learning from Lived Experience
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Introduction  - John Read
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@markae0
@markae0 5 күн бұрын
8:17 the scientists say the opposite now, they say there is a lack of density of receptors. What is the truth? what are lies?
@MartinRohrbach-fc5je
@MartinRohrbach-fc5je 18 күн бұрын
I quit seroquel 50mg cold Turkey ( doctor advice ! ) 3 months ago. Im Still suffering from quite uncomfortable widrawal symtomes. The symtomes and the intensity got overe the last gradually better and less. But still the symtomes seem quite persistent. Is there a chance that i ll feel ever normal again?
@MartinRohrbach-fc5je
@MartinRohrbach-fc5je 22 күн бұрын
I quit seroquel 3 months ago cold Turkey ( doctor advice) im going trough hellish wirdrwal since 3 months. Altough im still improving gradually, i have the impression that im Still at the beginning of this process. How are the chances to recover? completley? Or is it possible that i ll be cought up forever in this widrawal?
@Starskye7897
@Starskye7897 Ай бұрын
In my area (Bristol) they said they don’t offer counselling on the nhs, I need to access this through charities which have really long waiting list or low cost counselling which is hard for some people to afford I’m also on the waiting list for high intensity ocd therapy which is offered on nhs but is a 9 month wait, the low intensity ocd therapy is 3 months wait but I need high intensity
@Filthycoffin
@Filthycoffin Ай бұрын
I actually got diagnosed with tardive akathisia. It’s all over my medical papers, but before I got diagnosed with that, they diagnosed me with every other fucking thing in the book. 15 years akathisia now
@Filthycoffin
@Filthycoffin Ай бұрын
I’ve been in the wd community since 2018. It’s saved my life and has given me knowledge to break away from the matrix. Tired I did get tired of people telling me meditation will stop my issue meditation. The mind has power over everything I get so tired of that. I have tried that billion times.
@Mike_Iz_
@Mike_Iz_ Ай бұрын
For long terms users, to say getting off antidepressants is sometimes “not easy” is a huge understatement. It can be utterly disabling. Also, the guidelines you present for duration of tapers is way off for most long term users: at least 4 weeks? You have to be joking! Regarding risk factors for severity of withdrawal: there are more useful predictors outlined in the Maudsley Guidelines on Deprescribing, including duration of Tx, type of antidepressant, and previous W/D history. Otherwise good presentation and thank you for investing yourself in this very important topic.
@user-bz4bn8dz9u
@user-bz4bn8dz9u Ай бұрын
I won’t survive
@Institute_PDW
@Institute_PDW Ай бұрын
Hi, we hope you might find some suggestions for support within the peer support communities online, a few are listed here iipdw.org/home/useful-resources/ Please hang in there.
@janeytraill6964
@janeytraill6964 Ай бұрын
Why is Venlafaxine so difficult to come off due to horrific withdrawal symptoms?
@incognito595
@incognito595 Ай бұрын
THESE DRUGS ARE THE CAUSE OF IMMENSE SUFFERING.THESE PROVIDERS("Doctors")ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE, BECAUSE THEY ALL KNEW ABOUT THIS PROFOUND SUFFERING. IN THE CASE OF BENZOS, THEY HAVE KNOWN OF ALL THE DANGERS AND THE PROFOUND, SEVERE, UNSPEAKABLE, AND INTERMINABLE SUFFERING, FOR 65+YEARS! THE REST OF THE DRUGS ARE JUST AS DANGEROUS(ANTIDEPRESSANTS).
@incognito595
@incognito595 Ай бұрын
Laura, You are so intelligent and insightful. You enrich us all with your contributions. We need to Stop the destruction of people's lives by these drugs. It's THE COMMERCIALIZATION OF MEDICINE.
@incognito595
@incognito595 Ай бұрын
THE ANSWER TO WHY? IS THIS : $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ !!!!!
@incognito595
@incognito595 Ай бұрын
THEY ARE BRAINWASHED..THIS LADY IS SO RIGHT.
@incognito595
@incognito595 Ай бұрын
NEVER, EVER, NEVER, TAKE THEIR DRUGS IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE AND FUTURE! I FELL FOR IT, TOO. I LOST SEVERAL DECADES OF MY LIFE TO THEM. I CAN'T BELIEVE I THOUGHT THOSE POISONS WERE HELPING ME! SEE DR. PETER BREGGIN. WATCH ALL OF HIS VIDEOS, AS MANY TIMES AS IT TAKES TO "GET" IT!
@incognito595
@incognito595 Ай бұрын
THE CORRUPTION OF DRUG COMPANIES AND ACADEMICS IS SO BREATHTAKING! I KNEW THOSE ARTICLES WERE GHOSTWRITTEN, BUT NOT THAT THE ACADEMICS WERE PAID TO ATTACH THEIR NAMES TO THIS BOGUS RESEARCH! THANK YOU, DR. HEALY, FOR YOUR INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER.
@incognito595
@incognito595 Ай бұрын
SUE THEM ALL. THEY ALL KNEW.
@TE-7302-
@TE-7302- Ай бұрын
Please don’t equate physical pain with emotional pain. They are different.
@MrPeterISABELLA
@MrPeterISABELLA Ай бұрын
I was on ativan 4-5 months on 1mg. I stopped it.....and 6th day it started huge withdrawal....It was like I was plugged into the fastest electricity plug up my spine 4 11 weeks. Hell on earth....couldn't sleep.....for 11 weeks.....insomnia from anxiety 100x worse than y I even went on the medication......12th week it was like a bus hit my brain....like a blow to the brain....deep calm.....total polar opposite....now extreme fatigue, days lasting calm, to then severe light sensitivity, to severe anxiety.....windows free....yet only last a short time.. Now windows at 3 months is 13 hours a day...with night time unsteadiness shakes and anxiety....however some nights if not triggeted can sleep at 13th week....with 5mg valium ziziphus and lavender oil by seremind....... The first 11 weeks was the most horrific hell experience iv ever had....i would rather be raped and sodamized and entire year than go threw that again. The worst part of PAWS for myself......was unable to sleep for 11 weeks straight.....it was horrorifying....when the brain needed sleep. I am 13 weeks off now....and still will have 3 months to build neurons back and strength. Coming off lorazapam is a severe trauma.
@sharonbice7490
@sharonbice7490 2 ай бұрын
Almost killed me coming down off Amytriptilin and Duloxetine, ended up in the hospital for 2 weeks, took months to overcome. 😢 But was never once was told it was the meds . 😢 My blood pressure and blood sugar shot through the roof, brain zaps, no coordination, brain felt like it was dying, then arm went numb, thought I was stroking, but didnt. Got put on Gabepatine, but started having problems breathing, had no idea why, until recently.
@HelenWhitehead-gc9ps
@HelenWhitehead-gc9ps 2 ай бұрын
@RobertWhitaker thank you so much for this talk especially the reframing as a positive opportunity. Ive been on antipsychotics almost 30 yrs Currently on Clozapine in a struggle w MH team around reduction Please could you provide the link you mentioned detailing the American psychiatrists with quotes with them saying the theory of changes in the dopamine system is the cause schizophrenia. Very Grateful to you all for your work x
@scotlandthebrave334
@scotlandthebrave334 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for telling your story whoever you are - your personal circumstances sound very challenging. I'm looking for advice going through withdrawals 9 days. Withdrawal was worse on the lower of the dose. Frightening. I'm going cold turkey and I feel absolutely terrible. But feeling is healing. I'm strong willed. Good luck to everyone.
@yenly1740
@yenly1740 2 ай бұрын
I was prescribed Effexor 37.5mg for my anxiety from 11/2022 to 3/2022, after a few months I felt better and decided to stop, then I asked my psychiatrist whether I could stop it and he said I could try but he never tapered the dose and at that time I hadn’t known about the antidepressant withdrawal before so I just stopped as he said. Just 2 months later I experienced severe anxiety so I came back to him and he said it was a relapse and I had to retake the med for other 9 months until I decided to stop completely. Until January 2024 he said I can stop the med and he tapered down the dose for 4 weeks and stopped completely then, just once time tappering. I experienced average withdrawal symptoms a few days after coming off the antidepressant. It lasted for weeks then I experienced free symptoms before they went back again, I’ve suffered from my ups and downs until now, and the latest wave I’ve had is more terrible than before. I had panic attacks, insomnia, constant anxiety and intrusive thoughts. I wonder when the symptoms go away. I dont really want to come back to these drugs again. The point that I felt livid is that my doctor didn’t say anything about withdrawal and let me quit cold turkey then he made me go back to him and continue taking the drugs for a long time. The second time I went back on the med my symptoms subsided within a few days, which made me wonder if I really had a relapse as he said.
@fjaviersanchezsanchez6680
@fjaviersanchezsanchez6680 2 ай бұрын
Muy buen vídeo. Muchas gracias por vuestra ayuda.
@hummingbird4934
@hummingbird4934 2 ай бұрын
I want to start weaning off of 5mg of olanzapine. Dropped from 20 to 5 with no issues but going to the 2.5mg was awful my anxiety was through the roof. It’s so annoying the first week and a half was fine but after that was hell and I didn’t realise it was withdrawals initially. Fell out with best friend during this time and our relationship never recovered. So that wasn’t worth it!! I now have no support to help me with this taper
@mariaq.9559
@mariaq.9559 2 ай бұрын
Thank goodness for book Mad in America by Robert Whitaker Explains alot.
@ironmedicine6898
@ironmedicine6898 2 ай бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@angeladavis-qi6kb
@angeladavis-qi6kb 2 ай бұрын
what is the facebook group called please?
@marcdesrosiers2871
@marcdesrosiers2871 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been on Venlafaxine for 22 yrs. Now on 262.5 mg’s. My plan is to reduce 2-3% monthly over the next several years.
@jenniferbryn
@jenniferbryn 3 ай бұрын
I love "the shittiest got less shitty" part 😅, I think you couldn't have described it any other way❤❤❤❤ thank you for sharing. These meds are insane.
@celestepiccolo6586
@celestepiccolo6586 3 ай бұрын
After 3 failed attempts that led me to hellish withdrawals, I am finally doing a proper taper down to zero mg of the drug. I’m glad I have my “why?” for coming off the drug. I’m looking forward to my sexual functioning to come back. I’m looking forward to my new or reborn life full feeling and experiencing what it means to be human again. ❤
@celestepiccolo6586
@celestepiccolo6586 3 ай бұрын
“You heal through living.” ❤
@carolynmccall9407
@carolynmccall9407 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I have a much better understanding. Wouldn't it be nice if antidepressant pharmaceutical companies contributed financial to future research on withdrawal?
@bburnsga
@bburnsga 3 ай бұрын
I stopped Sertraline (Zoloft) a few months ago, after tapering down to 25mg. Am now experiencing periods of anxiety & depression, extreme nervousness, anger, & crying at the least little thing. I'll be fine for a while, even a day, then I'll wake up with a sinking feeling of depression & nervousness. Thank God someone led me to Dr. Horowitz, & to Dr. Alice W. Lee -- both of whom withdraw people from antidepressants. Dr. Lee preps first by using supporting therapeutics while withdrawing, even kidney support because they can be affected. Wish I'd known that prior to. Heck, I wish I'd known not to drop it at 25mg. I'm hoping that maybe I can go back on the 25mg (or even 15mg), then very slowly reduce from there. Have emailed my doctor, am waiting to hear back. If he won't help me, I'll have to go it alone, maybe by filing off bits of tablets during the incremental decreases. I'm currently taking Ashwagandha (liquid, from globalhealing.com) & a few homepathic remedies for nervousness (Cina, Sepia, Natrum Muriaticum). Not sure how much they're helping, but maybe some. My main reason for being on the med was that it helped me not to cry so easily -- I'd always been very emotional. Gave me more control, emotionally.
@mariusd7803
@mariusd7803 3 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work guys. I’m at the end of a long taper. It’s been tough even sticking to the safe method. Mainly mental distress. I’m down to 0.5ml of liquid citalopram and my nervous system has finally stabilised after 5 weeks at this dose. I’m afraid to stop but I’m determined to keep going on this journey. These drugs are v v powerful and should be prescribed with caution. We’ve got this guys!
@user-id1ij8vc8i
@user-id1ij8vc8i 3 ай бұрын
You got keep trying control your mind it will help you ❤
@user-id1ij8vc8i
@user-id1ij8vc8i 3 ай бұрын
I no what you mean but stop. Thinking is all in the mind. Get. B vitamin s and magnesium tablets. Grab it will help you. I'm finishind myself of the tablets. Good luck to you with love ❤️
@timcepin3386
@timcepin3386 3 ай бұрын
What about if I've taken 2 doses of a medication? Do you think that I still need to taper off of it?
@beautybombmom
@beautybombmom 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this information
@TheIgnacio777
@TheIgnacio777 4 ай бұрын
Is withdrawal worse for teenagers due to brain plasticity to the ssri?
@Mike_Iz_
@Mike_Iz_ 2 ай бұрын
It’s not researched but I would think the outcome would be better. Old age and long duration of use certainly don’t predict favorable outcomes.
@TheIgnacio777
@TheIgnacio777 4 ай бұрын
How to taper when they have u on THREE antidepressants?
@Mike_Iz_
@Mike_Iz_ 2 ай бұрын
Taper the one which is giving you the most side effects, however try and taper the one which helps with sleep last, as preserving you sleep will help you get off the other two. Also taper the ones with shorter half lives first.
@Ycnan111
@Ycnan111 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Laura 🙏🫂
@CalleyWalsh
@CalleyWalsh 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Mark Horowitz. I have experienced these horrible withdrawal symptoms for the past five months before I managed, after a lot od disagreement, to be put on prozac instead of quetiapine for my symptoms. The psychiatrist thought I had develped an anxiety disorder in addition to my depression. Luckily I had done a lot of research beforehand. I feel much more confident about coming off the prozac knowing about this research.
@shaun4443
@shaun4443 4 ай бұрын
SAME, I HAVE BEEN SIX MONTHS OFF ZOLOFT AND STILL LIVING IN HELL!
@amarahmed3112
@amarahmed3112 4 ай бұрын
I have been taking lixomil 6mg (bromazepam) for more than 20 years. I take 3mg in the morning and 3mg in the evening with a 50mg Zoloft pill on a regular basis, according to the doctor. Ten years before that, I had taken other types. How can you reduce the benzo drug when there is no standard health care and doctors only prescribe the drug? When you want to stop, they say to stop gradually as it helps you. Knowing that I am 54 years old and I work as a teacher, I panicked when I watched some videos about the difficulty of stopping benzodiazepine. Thank you all
@riobird1363
@riobird1363 4 ай бұрын
Here is another resource to getting off antidepressants. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ptaZftKA39TQdo0.htmlsi=zCQ8qCBYu7JhMsPj
@GCT1990
@GCT1990 4 ай бұрын
You can't... Video over, Way too little information especially on Benzodiazepines. These thing ruin lives for a reason.
@susanparrish1380
@susanparrish1380 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's all about $$,$$$,$$$........
@brokenwingedsongbird
@brokenwingedsongbird 4 ай бұрын
All wd heals. But not all major brain injury from psych heals. A truth i had to sit with every day all bc i couldnt find the inner compass website when it mattered
@catlover7166
@catlover7166 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad this info is available but i feel like what's being missed sometimes is that clinical depression is not "sadness" or just a normal reaction to an adverse situation - it is a different animal and "exercise" is not a solution nor is "wait and see" - not when you're acutely suicidal. Frankly, when i was there i would have taken ANYTHING to not feel what i was feeling. Please don't confuse these things! I think it's very importan to learn about withdrawal effects but that doesn't mean that antidepressants of some kind - perhaps of a kind not yet known, like ketamine was, are not critically important in cases of severe clinical depression. You trivialize that illness by confusing it with sadness and prescribing exercise as a solution. It is life-threatening and extremely serious. Immediate steps are necessary to prevent suicide or attempts. It's not a bad mood!