Thank you! Very helpful, sometimes it isnt worth the effort to repait this junky inverters. One expect them to last 10 years but last yust a couple of kwh. Keep teaching us!
@BlueSplashNo13 күн бұрын
Als du sagtest, dass der Preis für 1 kWh Diesel bei 17 Cent liegt, ist mir klar geworden, dass wir obwohl der Spritpreis vermeintlich hoch ist, diese Energie immer noch zu einem Spott billigen Preis verschleudern. Das heißt, eigentlich, dass der Spritpreis mindestens doppelt, wenn nicht drei mal so hoch sein müsste, um mit dem kWh Preis für Strom vergleichbar zu sein. Grade wenn man die Umweltschäden mit einpreist. Und erst dann würden die meisten Leute vermutlich begreifen, dass man den Diesel und Benzin nicht mehr einfach verschleudern kann und zu 70%-80% (oder wie viel auch immer) in Wärme umsetzt. Sie würden sich dann vermutlich eher für die effizientere Maschine entscheiden.
@bildmateria3 күн бұрын
Tolle Analyse!
@jontscott4 күн бұрын
So if I follow right (via translation since I don't know German) 7 liters or diesel is about the same as 15kwh of electricity due to inefficiency? So using a diesel would only make sense if generators could be more efficient than 2kwh/liter? How about a diesel-electric hybrid? For city driving you get the advantage of regen, but you do not need a large battery for longer trips? It seemed you were saying that on the freeway the diesel did much better than in start/stop city situations. Hard to follow but interesting to see some comparison numbers, thank you!
@EngineersFear4 күн бұрын
Yes, 7 liters of Diesel equating to 70 kWh energy content did the same work as 15 kWh of electrical energy in this very test. The cycle contained lots of acceleration and deceleration making the process more inefficient. You can say a good car Diesel engine operates between 10 and 35% efficiency whereas 35% is only reached in a very limited scenario like towing a trailer uphill or something (high torque at medium speed). Fast highway driving with little load changes is a practical scenario where Diesel works best but still 3x worse than electric drive trains. Hybrids try to run the engine in high load scenarios and take advantage of regen. This can capture 25% energy in hilly or city driving. On highway driving the efficiency can reach 30% according to a Björn Nyland test (don't exactly remember which car he tested). Still any combustion engine relies on burning something, so it pollutes our lungs and in case of fossil fuels transfers more or less carbon from underground into the atmosphere.
@Good-Enuff-Garage4 күн бұрын
Ich sehe Diesel auf einem Elektrokanal, auf den ich „Gefällt mir“ klicke
@EngineersFear4 күн бұрын
Danke, willst du das Video of Englisch? Ich übersetze es eventuell
@jamesclifford1943 күн бұрын
I would love the English translation if not too much trouble!
@herr_lehmann4 күн бұрын
"Verbrennerverbot, dass es überhaupt nicht gibt" ... "wer nach 2035 einen Verbrenner kaufen will, der kann es nicht mehr machen" - genau mein Humor!
@EngineersFear4 күн бұрын
nana, die Kunst des Weglassens ;) "zumindest dann nicht, wenn der Verbrenner mit Benzin oder Diesel betrieben werden kann". Eine recht gängige Meinung ist leider, dass das Verbot auch für den Bestand gilt. Entsprechend lässt sich Stimmung dagegen machen
@BlueSplashNo13 күн бұрын
Doch. Sogar nach 2035 kann man Verbrenner noch kauf, die vorher einmal zugelassen waren. Das bedeutet lediglich, dass ab dem Zeitpunkt keine neuen Verbrenner mehr produziert werden, weil man sie nicht mehr erst-zulassen kann.
@EngineersFear2 күн бұрын
@@BlueSplashNo1 Jup, danke für die Ergänzung 👍
@Vrabetzz4 күн бұрын
Die 20% "Ladeverluste" beim Diesel sind 14kWh. Das entspricht in etwa dem Verbrauch vom Elektroauto... (ohne Ladeverluste usw.)
@EngineersFear4 күн бұрын
Ja, allerdings handelt es sich dabei auch wieder größtenteils um thermische Energie, nicht um elektrische.
@alsavage18 күн бұрын
I would have thought that 50mm² wire would be adequate for no more than ~125A (based on 60°C rise), but I see you (and others) pushing 200A. What are your thoughts on the ampacity of 50mm² wire?
@EngineersFear7 күн бұрын
Things is the current doesn't flow for prolonged time in battery sizes typical for conversions. Peak current will be there for less than 10 minutes. With CHAdeMO I ran only 16mm² cables and these showed no signs of overheating damage despite using 100 kW CHAdeMO chargers @180A from time to time. The culprit for alarming overheating is usually bad crimps, dirty or scratched contact area and insufficient contact pressure/bolt torque
@gaborgelencser4308 күн бұрын
Can you give me more infarmation about, how can I make my conversion legal in Germany? I thinking about, convert my Wartburg to electric, but the hungarian laws and rules is a bucket of shit, and practically can't able to make a conversion legal, even if the car so simple like the Wartburg (no power brakes, no power steering, practically nothing to powered by the engine beside the traction).
@johumm4557 күн бұрын
move to germany if you do not like the country you live in ...
@_DSch7 күн бұрын
Export it to germany, let a german dude do the conversion legally in germany and import it back ahaha Maybe ask a lawyer beforehand
@gaborgelencser4307 күн бұрын
@@_DSch Thats okay. But I don't know the legal requirements
@unoxunox40868 күн бұрын
Das gepfeife der Ladesaule ist ja krass.
@EngineersFear7 күн бұрын
Ja der Hochleistungskram taktet leider oft im hörbaren Bereich. Ist halt keine Handy-Ladegerät 😉
@unoxunox40867 күн бұрын
Ich dachte der Ton sei eine Fehlfunktion. Aber wenn das so by Design ist ... gibt es noch viel zu entwickeln. 🤗
@EngineersFear7 күн бұрын
@@unoxunox4086 Auf jeden Fall!
@lukemason95008 күн бұрын
Is the charge current there being limited in software by the temperature or by the battery chemistry? What limits for temp and charge rates have you set? Apologies if you have been over that already.
@EngineersFear8 күн бұрын
I tried to replicate VWs stock charge curve by collecting data e.g. form Björn Nyland videos. If you like to read code, see here: github.com/jsphuebner/stm32-car/blob/touran-meb/src/mebbms.cpp
@hansgustafsson206112 күн бұрын
As a former chassis designer, I know that tires should be the narrowest model with hard rubber (hige treadwear ratings), wearn out almost illegal, max air pressure, for minimum "gasoline consumption" as it was at that time. The car should preferably also be lowered with the least possible ground clearance and all gaps in the bodywork should be taped , the windscreen wipers removed or stored straight up in the direction of the air stream. The measuring road must be completely even with smooth asphalt. Trick that manufacturers still use today when measuring consumption.
@mariosmusik489825 күн бұрын
low pressure: 151 Wh/km high pressure: 139 Wh/km not sure if I understood it korrekt tbh. 8% less consumption thats quite a bit
@mariosmusik489825 күн бұрын
just read @celeron55's comment. I think warming up of the drivetrain could also have had a significant impact
@celeron5525 күн бұрын
You probably need to repeat the test doing high pressure first and low pressure second. 15km is just about enough to heat up the grease in the gearbox, axles and bearings and that will lower the consumption significantly - maybe to the extent that it could be everything that you're seeing here.
@EngineersFear23 күн бұрын
Fair point though I did just return from a 40 km trip. Like 30 minutes before the test
@Good-Enuff-Garage25 күн бұрын
excellent, we are now ready for your next video where you compare different tire treads...
@Tom-evnut25 күн бұрын
Oh nice one this a quick turn around. :) oh got alot of improvement. Knew it would impact due to the rolling resistance
@vasilispants824126 күн бұрын
Why did you get different distance readings if you did the exact same route? Is it because maybe the overall diameter is different? What are the tire sizes? if so then maybe you must take that in account also.
@EngineersFear25 күн бұрын
Yes, see 6:00
@vasilispants824125 күн бұрын
@@EngineersFear Ooops! Sorry...
@CrAzYDr1veR26 күн бұрын
usually people think that because they compare a light smaller wheel to a much bigger wheel with much larger tire but maintaining the overall diameter for the same km/h. For example my little mk1 golf from 155/80R13 to 195/50R15, a upgrade that will give you stability/traction/adherence but will consume much more fuel.
@chrhelm27 күн бұрын
Warum testet sowas eigentlich niemand mit Ausrollversuchen? Z. B. von 120 km/h auf 80 km/h in Neutral bzw. Leerlauf. Damit wären solche Tests zur Aerodynamik doch viel schneller erledigt.
@EngineersFear27 күн бұрын
Guter Punkt. Ich würde sagen die Anforderungen an die Messtechnik sind höher aber es würde trotzdem schneller gehen
@Good-Enuff-Garage27 күн бұрын
super video
@mlg77927 күн бұрын
For me inflating the tires makes a big difference.
@unoxunox408627 күн бұрын
Inflation and width of the tyre might be the most important Parameter in the Autobahn. Hard and narrow are better.
@EngineersFear27 күн бұрын
Another video coming ;)
@Tom-evnut27 күн бұрын
How about doing a drive with different tire pressures? That should yield more of a difference.
@EngineersFear27 күн бұрын
May do that on a smaller test loop though
@alibro751228 күн бұрын
I've often heard that bigger Alloys will increase consumption over smaller trim covered wheels but wasn't sure whether to believe it or not. Thanks for taking one for the team to confirm any difference is more likely to be tyre width, compound and pressure related. Maybe for longer motorway journeys at high speed it might make a small difference.
@TrickyNekroАй бұрын
From my medical equipment repair days, I have come across resolvers that the reference coil is on the stator and the readout is done on the rotor ( they can definitely afford the space there ). Nice stuff indeed, not many people know of them nowadays ( most motor control will actually be done with encoders with an index pulse given from somewhere in the system ).
@EngineersFearАй бұрын
Oh cool, so that actually exists then. At least in vehicles and with synchronous motors I have only seen absolute feedback such as resolvers or sin/cos hall chips.
@LittleSpotАй бұрын
haha. Geil, na so wird das was. Wenn die Hersteller V2L von sich aus nicht anbieten. Ist doch super. Die Zukunft wird spannend.👍
@chrhelmАй бұрын
Vor dem volatile-Problem hätte misra oder cppcheck evtl. warnen können.
@petarsimic4097Ай бұрын
Great video! Is it planned to do some beginner guide sw videos realted to OpenInv, i believe that it would be very interesting. Thanks a lot :)
@EvbmwАй бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks Johannes.
@user-yy3pt2oy9iАй бұрын
Можна купити увас такі плати
@user-yy3pt2oy9iАй бұрын
Доброго дня можна увас купити плату керуваням інвертором нісан ліф
@ElectricCarAustraliaАй бұрын
👍
@mizettelzettelАй бұрын
Very nice :) I tried as well, my model 3 was able to switch on after i applied 350V DC on the pins. Later you can also get power from the car. I pulled 4kW for ~30mins with no error So probably its measuring the DC Pin voltages. If your convertion is not measuing DC Pin Voltage of course it works ;)
@EngineersFearАй бұрын
That's very good news! I rely on the voltage reported by the charger. Have the voltage measurement ready but never bothered to actually hook it up ;)
@ReddyToGo.Ай бұрын
Great. Did you use pyPLC or something else as charger? Any chance to record a pcap?
@peterwilliams1074Ай бұрын
That is a very good result, congrats. It would be amazing if Tesla just provided V2G or V2L for all of their new vehicles. If the Model Y is capable of V2G with a software update, I would definitely buy. I am glad they pushed the envelope with the best-of-breed technologies on the CyberTruck. We have NEM3 in California as of 2024 and PG&E will pay a high price for electricity at certain times of the month and specific hours. You need to know these hours and be able to feed back to the grid from your batteries to take advantage. It is all about capitalizing on this opportunity or getting screwed over by high electricity rates. I think this would be bring more value from your Tesla. I don't drive a high amount of miles and would benefit from V2G or V2L. Love to see the tech folks push the envelope.
@mizettelzettelАй бұрын
@@ReddyToGo. yes pyPLC, sorry i didn't recorded pcap. i canged my setup to non bidi at the moment, and i don't have time to do it again at the moment. i only have some grafana graphs from the homestorage where i can see the power flow from the past.
@JinguapingiАй бұрын
Looking at the source code a it, I always realize how much more complicated CCS is to Chademo ! :o Congrats!!
@ReddyToGo.Ай бұрын
Thank you. Yes, totally overcomplicated.
@14energyАй бұрын
Hopefully next gen model Y will support V2L
@ReddyToGo.Ай бұрын
Let's turn it the other way around: Goal is to use the current model Y - and not only that. Not waiting that somebody will hopefully do something in the future.
@14energyАй бұрын
@@ReddyToGo. That is obvious. For my user case Im looking forward for Tesla to implement it in the near future
@mcrotbotАй бұрын
Awesome set up, and great vid
@kierank01Ай бұрын
Which generation Zoe is this from? Is there a reason the Zoe has not been reverse engineered like this before now? 22kw AC charging would seem like something worth exploring for some time
@EngineersFearАй бұрын
The first gen made by Continental. The charging will likely not be reverse engineered, it's a separate box which needs more convoluted comms, presumably.
@Good-Enuff-GarageАй бұрын
Unboxing? what, luv it... what next, a cat in the background!
Great job Johannes, Zoe inverter is very interesting with the exciter for the rotor design
@EngineersFearАй бұрын
Yes indeed. I have to find out which max rotor current Renault runs
@svenmoeller8997Ай бұрын
Schade das der Tesla nicht mitspielt.
@EngineersFearАй бұрын
Sagen wir mal NOCH nicht ;)
@sunwindgenАй бұрын
Mega Projekt respekt :-) Drücke die Daumen das es alles läuft ;-)
@ReddyToGo.Ай бұрын
@@EngineersFear Hab ein Update vom openV2Gx gepusht. Wäre cool, wenn das nochmal jemand am Model Y testen könnte. Oder jemanden kennt in Bayern wo ich das mal testen könnte...
@RaglansElectricBaboonАй бұрын
Very nice!
@johumm455Ай бұрын
supergeil!
@arnefilipovic261Ай бұрын
Is the CCS communication based in DIN SPEC 70121 or ISO 15118? Can we have a look at the source Code? 😮😊
@EngineersFearАй бұрын
of course 😄 github.com/uhi22/pyPLC/
@arnefilipovic261Ай бұрын
Thank you. I am gonna take a look at it. A video on how to get this code running on a raspi or similar would be great.
@idrisddraig2Ай бұрын
Would providing a HV but low current to the HV pins keep the Tesla Happy enough to close contacters?
@EngineersFearАй бұрын
At least it should get it to the next step where it closes the port relays. Next question is, how long does it keep them closed when it doesn't detect charge current?
@MastroGippoАй бұрын
Answer: you can "extract" 5kWh from a Tesla before it closes the session with an error :)
@StefanoFinocchiaroАй бұрын
@@MastroGippoThat's not bad, how do you know that?
@MastroGippoАй бұрын
I did it
@ReddyToGo.Ай бұрын
@@MastroGippo Great, did you need to apply physical voltage during precharge? Do you have a pcap or other log?
@idrisddraig2Ай бұрын
Well done. Now I would be able to Charge my car at work, drive home and power my house......yes I know I have to turn the HV DC in to 230v AC, but that's just normal electronics stuff.
@EngineersFearАй бұрын
Yes a logical next step would be to pair this to a hybrid PV inverter or something
@StefanoFinocchiaroАй бұрын
@@EngineersFearI was thinking the same thing, there are hybrid inverters that support these voltages
@mizettelzettelАй бұрын
theoreticly you can pair it with a hybrid inverter. and very probably it would work but don’t forget that most hybrid inverters have no galvanic isolation and that could be a safety risk. Use a galvanic isolated bidirectional charge module instead. like this one to exchange energy from homestorage and car: BEC75025 or this one to directly go to AC: BEG1K075G
@EngineersFearАй бұрын
@@mizettelzettel I would expect there to be a DC/DC converter with isolation transformer between battery and grid - also to increase the input voltage range
@mizettelzettelАй бұрын
@@EngineersFear true maybe you are right, i thought they don't do it due to efficency reasons like in the bigger industrial ones. (blueplanet SMA trumpf) and in most of the hybrid i have read inverters its mentioned in the datasheet that you cannot use multiple inverters on one battery. I was assuming its because they are not isolated. Ah but maybe its just because it doesn't work with the power limits of the battery. Ok then that would be really cool to have it directly on the inverter :D Would be interessting if someone can get the inveter to do the precharge phase for the model 3. otherwise we need some sort of isolated software adjustable high-voltage low-power supply that can do it.
@amnesialenАй бұрын
Whats the damn part called?
@johumm455Ай бұрын
wilkommen!
@Stefan_DahnАй бұрын
1:05 The Winston cells need a BMS and a balancer. 😉
@REINER-ud2zwАй бұрын
hallo herr Hübner ..Tolle Arbeit ..aber wenn ich das sehe und auch die Probleme mit dem EME im BMW i3 .soll ich mir ein gebrauchten I3 kaufen ... wird er kaputt gehen am EME ?? .... oder sind nicht alle Baujahre betroffen ...