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@psychobread1252
@psychobread1252 6 күн бұрын
Clean is better however get a deep crystal put on it as standard is pretty crap
@user-pw9xz1li6x
@user-pw9xz1li6x 2 ай бұрын
Where i can find somone that sell all the bt, clean watches?
@johnlenardjabas3358
@johnlenardjabas3358 Ай бұрын
Hello I'm from the Philippines selling swiss made watches below SRP. If you are interested please reply here. Thanks
@HamishCarpenter
@HamishCarpenter 11 күн бұрын
@@user-pw9xz1li6x I have a clean panda Daytona for sale that I just bought. It’s a superclone. I can send you pics if you like.
@franzposch6809
@franzposch6809 2 ай бұрын
can please somebody tell me the music name ?
@Red-Red-Red-Red
@Red-Red-Red-Red 2 ай бұрын
This is also known as the Dandong movement (DD4130)
@TheKingMJackson
@TheKingMJackson 3 ай бұрын
Clean looks like a fake, BTF looks so much like the genuine. I would never be able to tell that it’s a rep
@syedarahman6126
@syedarahman6126 3 ай бұрын
You are all pathetic
@swishyboi7444
@swishyboi7444 3 ай бұрын
Is this Daytona SA4130 or CF4130?
@pete6705
@pete6705 3 ай бұрын
Maybe I’m crazy, but on the Clean factory it looks like on the 3 rings, they are painted silver. But on the other 2 they are actual metal. Am I wrong?
@petersneddon1579
@petersneddon1579 3 ай бұрын
Yes.
@Enoch-Gnosis
@Enoch-Gnosis 4 ай бұрын
The VS VR and DD 3135 movements are of good quality 👍🏼
@francescocaputo9505
@francescocaputo9505 4 ай бұрын
Do you have a video of 3126 model please
@ATOM.WATCH.RETURN
@ATOM.WATCH.RETURN 5 ай бұрын
เยี่ยม🎉
@anthonyserrano9029
@anthonyserrano9029 5 ай бұрын
Any VSF watches ⌚️???
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz 5 ай бұрын
China always making fakes. 😂
@mr.knight4110
@mr.knight4110 6 ай бұрын
For the case and strap BTF is better ,for the dial clean is better
@appleratpipe
@appleratpipe 5 ай бұрын
CF V3 bracelet feels as good as it gets
@eh6520
@eh6520 8 ай бұрын
The subdails on the replica did not work. Please when you can not afford a Rolex just buy seiko.
@mik1375
@mik1375 6 ай бұрын
You just don't know anything about high-end replicas... Subdials work as the genuine ones.
@ASnchz-ne9xj
@ASnchz-ne9xj 8 ай бұрын
Where can you buy this movement?
@leekindell9937
@leekindell9937 8 ай бұрын
lol panda sticker on black faced daytona, they dont even realise its the white face one they call the panda..durrr
@DaveSith-kf2jf
@DaveSith-kf2jf 9 ай бұрын
What is your opinion about the N 4130? A more accurate clone than clean or not? Your comments are greatly appreciated.
@miloscvetkovic2633
@miloscvetkovic2633 4 ай бұрын
When did the n4130 come out? Or are you reffering to noob4130? As far as i know there is a4130 (decorated 7753), sa 4130 and now sh4130
@jonathanjoensen2679
@jonathanjoensen2679 9 ай бұрын
With that distance between camera and movement it is impossible to conclude anything.. What do you mean by AP gen? Generic??
@christinofreestyle210
@christinofreestyle210 8 ай бұрын
i think it geniune
@enispilkati
@enispilkati 10 ай бұрын
I have a clean factory that is like these genuine i paid 800 euros for the watch from my friend that sells the fakes in my country and did tell me thats is the best fake that was in china till the last year
@psychobread1252
@psychobread1252 16 күн бұрын
800 euros!!!! Rip off!
@DUMr-jf4vv
@DUMr-jf4vv 10 ай бұрын
不得不说国产的制造技术确实牛逼
@franzposch6809
@franzposch6809 10 ай бұрын
thanks for the video . ther is a company in bangkok , called rolexreplicanow. they offer gmt pepsi , clean factory , for 670 $ delicered to your hotel . do you think that is serious ?
@ragetobe
@ragetobe 2 ай бұрын
This is not their company at all, they are called CTIME and their website reflects that. Best reached through a very well-known forum as a trusted dealer.
@ling-vokeps5506
@ling-vokeps5506 10 ай бұрын
whats ur recomendation?
@HamishCarpenter
@HamishCarpenter 11 күн бұрын
@@ling-vokeps5506 I have a clean panda Daytona for sale that I just bought. It’s a superclone. I can send you pics if you like.
@hanswerner493
@hanswerner493 10 ай бұрын
Are their already superfakes out there of the 2023 GMT bi color with the jubillee bracelet and black/grey bezel, i need on of those.where should i look
@HamishCarpenter
@HamishCarpenter 11 күн бұрын
@@hanswerner493 yes
@icecorebaby
@icecorebaby 11 ай бұрын
Just bought the panda from Ctime. Can’t wait until I get it.
@codybolo7803
@codybolo7803 Ай бұрын
Hahaha how is it?
@nhojcam
@nhojcam 11 ай бұрын
so, keep in mind that you will hear two references to upper-end movements coming from CN: "fake" clean and "real" clean. CLEAN is the factory name. what you are seeing in the video is "real" clean (vs. genuine rolex 4130), which is the closest reproduction / replication of the rolex 4130 movement. there are then copies of the "real" clean, which are known as "fake" clean. the "fake" clean movements are repro'd in other factories and may use other movements / parts as a base. replica watches with the "fake" clean movements run around $500, and have thicker watch cases for fitment. to the eye from 2 feet, the watches appear very authentic. the "real" clean factory movements are nearly identical in every way, and the watch cases are 12.2mm which matches the genuine spec. replicas with the "real" clean factory movements have 12.2mm cases, and can be had for $900 or so. the $90 copies you see on dhgate and other sites very often use either ETA or quartz movements, and the fit and finish is much lower than watches containing either of the reproduction 4130 replica movements. it took me a lot of research to get this information. so, if you want a top-of-the-line replica, using the terms "real" clean factory will get you to the right quality and price point. personally, i could never afford $30k+ for an authentic daytona, but i love the look of them and want a nice replica, at some point, on my wrist.
@miloscvetkovic2633
@miloscvetkovic2633 4 ай бұрын
What you are refering as “clean” is actually SA4130, thick one is called a4130 and it just 4130 with decoration plate over it, there also is sh4130, clean has started using it recently, also the “clean 4131” is just a sh4130
@us-hamza
@us-hamza 11 ай бұрын
Какая высота штока (вала-стержня) и какая высота всего механизма?
@1stLombard
@1stLombard 11 ай бұрын
What SH3285 mean?
@nhojcam
@nhojcam 11 ай бұрын
GEN3285 is the genuine Rolex movement and provides the target for the CL3285 which is made in the CLEAN Factory in China. CL3285 movement is built up from a CL3235 Dandong movement. CLEAN is the closest (nearly identical) to the GEN movement. The SH (Shanghai Factory) movement is an iteration up from a 3185 movement and differs greatly from the GEN or CL movements. I have found that a true or "real" CLEAN factory replica watch will be in the $800 to $1000 range. The $500 replicas will be a copy of a copy or cobbled together movement, or a "fake" CLEAN movement. The $100 replicas generally use different materials and quartz movements. In China, the "real" CLEAN movements set the manufacturing standard and are the ones to buy. They are nearly identical to genuine movements and can be serviced with just about any rolex part, or at least this what I understand after having taken a deep dive into understanding Chinese-made replica movements.
@1stLombard
@1stLombard 9 ай бұрын
@@nhojcam Thank you for such a detailed and informative answer!
@johnathonmullis4234
@johnathonmullis4234 9 ай бұрын
Clean has an exclusive agreement with dandong movement factory who makes the dd3285 movements. Only clean is getting those movements so I guess they’re calling them cl3285.
@nhojcam
@nhojcam 9 ай бұрын
@@johnathonmullis4234, thank you. please keep in mind that there are other 2nd-tier manufacturers that i believe buy the CLEAN factory cases and bracelets and put their own FAKE movements in them. my understanding is that these are called FAKE Clean watches and sell for around the $500 mark. so, basically what i have gathered is that there are really 3 price points... approx. $100 (quartz and non-authentic CLEAN cases and bracelets, copies of copies), $500 (cobbled together 3285 non-DD movements with CLEAN factory cases and bracelets), and then $800+ (1:1 copy DD [DangDong] movements in CLEAN factory cases. i've been geeking out on this body of info for a few months, but this is what i have gathered so far. please comment with any corrections. i have a CLEAN Daytona panda with a 1:1 CLEAN 4130 movement that is stunning. my local non-rolex watch guy (works mostly on rolex, omega, breitling) was blown away when i showed it and the movement to him. i have just ordered from JTime a CLEAN 1:1 rep GMT II pepsi. they are most wonderful to work with.
@major.raytron
@major.raytron 11 ай бұрын
Great job! A video for the re-assembly would also be cool. What oil or grease would you suggest?
@JohnLewis-dk8mo
@JohnLewis-dk8mo 11 ай бұрын
The rep looks better than gen
@leekindell9937
@leekindell9937 8 ай бұрын
it wont up close, the markers and text quality soon show its not as good and the quality of links and internal movement.
@appleratpipe
@appleratpipe 7 ай бұрын
​@@leekindell9937internal movement 🤣
@spoonblender797
@spoonblender797 5 ай бұрын
@@leekindell9937 the movement is the same bro
@jacksmith007
@jacksmith007 3 ай бұрын
Clean better ?
@larrybland007
@larrybland007 2 ай бұрын
I agree
@ahmedalkirbi2502
@ahmedalkirbi2502 Жыл бұрын
Clean v3 clos to gen if any one ask
@icecorebaby
@icecorebaby Жыл бұрын
Man this black dial or panda which would you go with?
@e99g
@e99g Жыл бұрын
Are you Chinese?
@VTVISUAL
@VTVISUAL Жыл бұрын
clean is 3185
@offroadfreak8582
@offroadfreak8582 Жыл бұрын
The balance wheel is a dead giveaway in all clone movements.
@DaveSith-kf2jf
@DaveSith-kf2jf 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think there is a clone with micro Stella, please let me know if you have seen otherwise. You could always replace the bridge and balance assembly with gen to achieve 1:1
@box1e
@box1e 3 ай бұрын
What if you just buy a Rolex balance wheel?
@closedclosed3798
@closedclosed3798 Жыл бұрын
How does the Claen compare to Noob daytona?
@saudiranger4007
@saudiranger4007 10 ай бұрын
Clean better , BT is better than clean , both have the same movement tho
@appleratpipe
@appleratpipe 7 ай бұрын
​@@saudiranger4007BTF is not better than CF V3 lmao
@HamishCarpenter
@HamishCarpenter 11 күн бұрын
@@appleratpipe why do you say that?
@flogtwo
@flogtwo Жыл бұрын
Are these AP 4302 as reliable as the Rolex clone movements?
@major.raytron
@major.raytron 11 ай бұрын
I think they are similarly accurate but Rolex might be more reliable and durable. My two cents
@KailoVT
@KailoVT 28 күн бұрын
one of the well known ap people on the RWI forum legend has stated after servicing one of these movements that it’s comparable to the old noob 4130 movements
@jorgelario11
@jorgelario11 28 күн бұрын
@@KailoVT is that bad?
@KailoVT
@KailoVT 20 күн бұрын
⁠@@jorgelario11thats good the noob 4130 has been touted as one of the best clone movementa
@SCARNUEL_YT
@SCARNUEL_YT Жыл бұрын
Wow 🎉🎉🎉😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤
@nadred5396
@nadred5396 Жыл бұрын
Btf looks so much better
@kevinnguyen6610
@kevinnguyen6610 Жыл бұрын
Clean looks closer.sub dials more flat finished btf too shiny
@hanswerner493
@hanswerner493 10 ай бұрын
​@@kevinnguyen6610put a gen dial in
@NIEPSEN
@NIEPSEN Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video 👍 Can you describe differences between them and zoom more for the next ? please 😊 many thanks 👍
@Zach_______
@Zach_______ Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! I am having a tough time choosing between CF and BTF. Which factory is closest to genuine for black dial Daytona?
@MRBURNTTOAST111
@MRBURNTTOAST111 Жыл бұрын
Ppl will say BTF but it’s up to you what imperfections you prefer to live with
@lilzack59
@lilzack59 Жыл бұрын
@@MRBURNTTOAST111 I keep seeing people say “buy BTF and replace dial with CF v3 dial”. Do you know any TDs who can do this?
@MRBURNTTOAST111
@MRBURNTTOAST111 Жыл бұрын
@@lilzack59 I honestly don’t there are usually modders I believe they call them a reputable one would be SpongeBob
@lilzack59
@lilzack59 Жыл бұрын
@@MRBURNTTOAST111 I’m pulling the trigger on CF v3 today. The coronet is the only notable tell. No one will be able to see any case difference on the wrist. It’s just the best option out of the box and without having to mod a million things
@MRBURNTTOAST111
@MRBURNTTOAST111 Жыл бұрын
@@lilzack59 yeah you will be very happy with that purchase! Let us know how it goes
@justinhamill1931
@justinhamill1931 Жыл бұрын
I would love for you guys to take a 4K video of these two movements and have the focus spot on each movement cuz it's very blurry
@ikWELjijNIET
@ikWELjijNIET Жыл бұрын
wow thanks! love to see more 1:1 movements
@HudsonPeter
@HudsonPeter Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I love these comparisons. Looking forward to seeing more in the future. E.g. VS3235 or VS3135 against gen. Keep up the great work.
@blackieray5621
@blackieray5621 Жыл бұрын
Are you finding the quality of the individual components as good as the gen?
@time8182
@time8182 Жыл бұрын
It's pretty much close