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@elasticharmony 23 күн бұрын
That horse was bet down and not worth 4/5 that simple. Any horse bet below even money who has no early speed loses more then they win. This is a big problem in small pools the favorites are bet down and do not represent the actual odds.
@packersfan6814 24 күн бұрын
Sadly, welcome to my world Gabe!!!
@Brick-so1ig 24 күн бұрын
Acting Like Fierceness Was Some Lock of a Lifetime in Derby Was Just Handicappers PRETENDING He Was Immortal Coming into Derby....Les Did Not Even Believe in His Own Words About Fierceness...He Like Many Others Just Were Hoping to Feel "Smart" if Fierceness Ran Big
@TwoBun 25 күн бұрын
Hungry Jockey theory. Some Jockeys may be encouraged to gear down, and let a Hungry Jockey at longer odds out finish them. The Jockey's schedule can provide clues who will continue to fight to the finish while others gear down.
@dontlookback3549 28 күн бұрын
you lost because you bet it the first place
@trackgabe 28 күн бұрын
I did!
@elasticharmony 23 күн бұрын
😂
@dontlookback3549 29 күн бұрын
hey gabe...how much money did you lose in the derby? I had $200 on the 3 to win and keyed him in multiple exactas. Do I need to tell you how the 3 finished. Better luck in the preakness
@thegodfather7927 Ай бұрын
It’s called, waiting for you. Where are you ? Hahaha. It happened a lot in a horse race.
@Thecatfishwhispererr Ай бұрын
Crickets
@trackgabe Ай бұрын
I’ll try and get a new video
@Thecatfishwhispererr Ай бұрын
@@trackgabe he said he’s going to run around naked . I’ll be waiting
@bradk5150 Ай бұрын
Well. Everyone that bet 1,000 on fierceness just lost every bit of money they had on him.
@Thecatfishwhispererr Ай бұрын
Crickets
@haldolan8597 Ай бұрын
What happened to you today Gabe
@PatriciaRoman-sr5ho Ай бұрын
Just a Touch all day
@Nesquick1121 Ай бұрын
He is not wrong you do no count out a Johnny V horse without Baffert in the mix Fierceness by 3 horses Fierceness Sierra Donough is by win place show. my heads been screaming sierra leone since october times dont show triple crown but Fierceness will win the Derby of every race before the derby Fierce beat the best horses by 8-10 lengths
@jimcunningham61 Ай бұрын
When he is on his game he looks unbeatable
@jasonblake2918 Ай бұрын
Just a touch
@trackgabe Ай бұрын
Bobby Salzano and I have a major argument at the 01:12 mark.
@trackgabe Ай бұрын
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@trackgabe Ай бұрын
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@GeorgePereyra Ай бұрын
My God gracefully ❤❤❤
@raymondiokia5432 Ай бұрын
3 5 8 16 super 5.oo 👌 box
@ukuleleikeedwards5252 Ай бұрын
Stronghold will be right there
@williamcervetti1455 Ай бұрын
The winning super box in the Derby will be 18,20,21, and 7. thank me later.
@jantzfitzgerald6115 Ай бұрын
LOL, one night I picked a 40 to 1 shot to beat one of Lester's chalks. Lester told the whole crowd he'd squirm naked over broken glass if my horse won. My horse won. Never saw ol Lester bleeding. 😊
@anthonyr3800 Ай бұрын
I feel your pain brother, nothing makes me more mad than seeing a horse win by 10 lengths, the battle for second doesn't get shown on the screen because the jockey on the huge favorite is probably pulling the horse up so it doesn't finish second place, the shit was fixed no doubt about it, I see this shit everyday at the track, the 2 exactas featuring the 3 and 4 were heavily bet down and the jockey was instructed to finish out of the exacta to fuck the public over
@elasticharmony 23 күн бұрын
What? That would be barred, no it is a bum horse not worth the odds he pulled up being unwell to finish, a big factor in all horse racing is bad unwell horses who really aren't fit , the trainer pulling up against the public is impossible there arent that many in the pool.
@anthonyr3800 Ай бұрын
Hahaha not a chance in hell, fierceness has form cycle that says when he runs a monster race, the next race out is always a disappointment. That will certainly continue, he cant string together two marvelous races. I expect something will go wrong with him, hops out the gate, stumbles a bit and gets shuffled at the back of the pack, yep fierceness wont even hit the board, mark my words
@revizionaryenterprises9655 Ай бұрын
Consider that is a pretty small sample size( it happened twice and one time he hit the board), and that cycle is monster race maiden race then thrown into a grade 1 Champagne Stakes in the slop. Perhaps that was a bit too ambitious for Pletcher? Then the next was from the monster BC Classic to a 96 day layoff and then the Holy Bull first race back in a 3 race prep. Pletcher never has his horses cranked first race back but thought he was good enough to win anyway...maybe he was just short?
@anthonyr3800 Ай бұрын
@@revizionaryenterprises9655yep gotta love being dead on the money, like I said I've seen horses like this my whole life, can't ever follow a massive performance with another one, yep fierceness did EXACTLY what I knew he was gonna do, gotta love being right when so many experts hyped this horse up as some kind of super horse, what a joke, that performance was one of the biggest dud ive ever seen, he was backpedaling before he even hit the top of the stretch
@RaymondDeJesus-fx6fr Ай бұрын
Yes I beting against that u forgot how rich strike up set them in the Darby anything can happen
@RaymondDeJesus-fx6fr 28 күн бұрын
What happen to Jonny v horse what the specialist them say if u will bet against that I say yes I betting against that he still running
@elwoodblues6663 Ай бұрын
exactly im with you why is he looking back
@elwoodblues6663 Ай бұрын
well theres the kiss of death
@ukuleleikeedwards5252 Ай бұрын
That's funny man
@drdontpassone8164 Ай бұрын
chalk his entire life ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, can tell tell that to arazi brother
@countalucard4226 Ай бұрын
What good is the Derby if you don’t let Bob Baffert have an entry?
@chansevigen1328 Ай бұрын
The derby is more than fine without him lol
@matthewthompson7697 Ай бұрын
The "what-if's" will last forever.
@elwoodblues6663 Ай бұрын
3/4 111.3 and nobody is near him not much of a grade one field but that being said this is another average group for the derby and if he repeats that he will jog
@philsimard6382 Ай бұрын
GO FIERCENESS thats my bet also
@Hank-ch5qr Ай бұрын
17th hole 0 for 44 in the derby. No thanks buddy
@revizionaryenterprises9655 Ай бұрын
Fierceness breaks from the 16 post now, since the defection of Encino. Sorry, need another reason.
@Hank-ch5qr Ай бұрын
@revizionaryenterprises9655 20 horse field and you want to bet a 5 to 2 in a 3 year old race ? = sucker bet
@boristheamerican2938 Ай бұрын
Fierceness will not win. He has the good race bad race style. Since he won his last race guess what he does in the derby. Sierra Leone is a one run pony, very few Derby winners have that style as they usually run into traffic. Im looking at the 6-7-8 right now for the winner.
@revizionaryenterprises9655 Ай бұрын
Yeah, the past is always the arbiter of the future...that is why everyone had Rich Strike and Mine that Bird to win the Derby. The truth is he is 3 wins and a show out of 5 races with 2 dominating grade 1 wins. Johnny V said he is not sure if it happend because he tried to bring Fierceness back when he became rank early after getting hit at the break (and he resented it) or if he was short in the HB...but he just stopped. BTW, if I was using your race style handicapping formula I would point out that the 6 has only won 2 times in 11 starts and he seems to have forgotten how to win, nice horse, but not for the win. BTW, Just Steel has run 7th or 6th three times!! And third numerous times. Yet he is your choice over Fierceness? OK...He will be at a price, and I may have him underneath...but he likely will not win. He has not run fast enough. I do like the 8. I agree on the 2, and how he is up against it. If they get the 7 closer to the pace he may have a shot. My only concern for the 8 is the only race he has won is his maiden. He lost his other two (2 places). At some point you have to win again, but I liked Mage last year too.
@vernonfrance2974 Ай бұрын
Fierceness beat a pack of mediocre horses at Gulfstream. He had no fight in his two losses. Many horses are great on a loose lead but that is not likely in the Derby.
@revizionaryenterprises9655 Ай бұрын
Explain the BC Juvenile, where he rated off the pace and put that one away and then repelled Muth and won going away by 6.5 lengths? He was not "loose on the lead" in that race. Not even close.
@mikeparadise5024 Ай бұрын
Thank you trackgabe xoxo
@joecastanon2479 Ай бұрын
Man you people don't know sh....t He's going to romp and all of you are going to cry in your beer.
@DavidRaines-jg2tl Ай бұрын
The Winners, 1,2,3 and 4 will be determined by the person(3) who choreograph ( Fix ) the race along with ALL the other races!
@walterbrown9651 Ай бұрын
When Fierceness gets things his way,he is double tough. That seldom happens in Louisville, Ky
@gordonwasserman7352 29 күн бұрын
Don't be surprised if he comes right back to win Preakness. Smaller field and he may just decide to run every OTHER race.
@silvercharm9507 Ай бұрын
Two words: Champagne Stakes. And 2 more while Im here: Holy Bull.
@stephenmolaro2031 Ай бұрын
It's a wide open Derby! I believe there's five or six horses can possibly win including just a touch, honor Marie, catching freedom, and my favorite long shot Encino!
@charlesbadrock Ай бұрын
Yes taking a stand against him for a few different reason he will go off the Derby chalk and he's valunarable he had things his own way in the Fla Derby that's not going to happen in Louisville he's a small colt has a pattern of inconsistency which is a concern ?about getting the distance and if he gets caught up in a speed dual on fast splits that's no good don't see no value with him at short odds so looking elsewhere sorry Mike
@olrailbird Ай бұрын
Too slow and needs lead.
@vaderthekittenchannel1979 Ай бұрын
The fastest horses don’t necessarily win.
@garymcdonald7724 Ай бұрын
He is not going on my ticket there is going there is no money 💰 to be made. I am better off going to play Bingo then bet that horse 🐎 lol 😂
@winst0n888 Ай бұрын
Play the super with him and hope he finishes 4th. Then you might make a little 💰.
@kevansmotherman1201 Ай бұрын
Then or than I'm confused?
@revizionaryenterprises9655 Ай бұрын
He is right...Fierceness will win for fun. His 3rd place finish in the Holy Bull was an off race where it was his first race back and bounced out of the gate before the short run up. He still finished third by a length. His BC Juv and Fl Derby were both tour de forces...Johnny V will get him out of the gate and sit near the front and he will pull away. A price horse comes in second, Sierra up for leone third.
@anthonyr3800 Ай бұрын
Sorry but im a man of superstition, Johnny V wont win the derby with fierceness, Johnny V only wins derbies on horses that start with A, Authentic, Always Dreaming, Animal Kingdom. Medina Spirit is the exception but according to CDI, MS never won the race so as far as im concerned if Johnny V is riding a horse whose name doesn't start with A, then hes got no chance. Plus fierceness doesn't know how to run two marvelous races back to back. He wont even hit the board, I expect something to go wrong right out of the gate and have him shuffled mid pack where he has no chance navigating through all that traffic
@BoboParso Ай бұрын
Fierceness is my favorite
@garypatrick312 Ай бұрын
Fierceness wont lose 1 48 1 easy for 9 furlongs the others going 1 49 and change hard ridden it should be by how far exacta horses arestrong hold sierra leone and catching freedom
@johnkoury-vm6kq Ай бұрын
…..if only it were that easy….. a 20 horse field…..and Fierceness has run some ordinary races….he is going to have pressure on the front end… and he is going to regress…. but he could be fast enough to regress and still win…..his thorograph pattern is not great….. but the best thing going for him is Johnny V in the irons…. the nations best rider; better than Irad…. Velazquez is the best judge of pace in the country… going to be an interesting Derby
@timwalsh8973 Ай бұрын
i dont like at all sierra leon for second. nobody wants see holim butt ass naked. Yuck! he can win it if he fires..hate say