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@William-kl8dp
@William-kl8dp Ай бұрын
After seeing charter captains doing some of the craziest and dumbest stuff I have ever seen I would hesitate.
@sv.alannah
@sv.alannah 2 ай бұрын
For god sakes I hope you backed out of that crap ass contract. It will be one of the biggest mistakes of you life. You buy a boat and have limited access to it . O and the things they do as for maintenance... research (Cheeki Rafiki) boy they sure took good care of that charter boat. Boat was a total loss and only 5 people lost lives due to cost cutting and time saving bad decisions.
@aquaholic3
@aquaholic3 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been bareboat chartering since the 1990’s (8 times in the BVIs alone) and have seen the evolution of the charter businesses. This coming March 2025, I’ll be going back for the first time since hurricane Irma and look forward to seeing the NEW BVI.. I’ve already opened an account on BoatyBall and it seems pretty stray forward and simple. I wish it was an app and not a website. But I look forward to being able to book ahead and enjoy sailing without rushing hoping to get a ball!
@juniperdog5523
@juniperdog5523 4 ай бұрын
I am not sure i understand. If you start from the top and want to do the loop do you have to go to Devil's Bay first? Or do you go through the baths first and then on to Devil's bay?
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 4 ай бұрын
From the top, you would simply follow the signs to enter the Baths. That trail will take you towards Devil’s Bay. When you get to the split you can go left into Devil’s Bay or right into the Bath’s entrance.
@QueenNefertiti1000
@QueenNefertiti1000 5 ай бұрын
Great
@shanadey1368
@shanadey1368 6 ай бұрын
is there an easy access trail to the baths for those who are plus size or limit mobility
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 6 ай бұрын
Fully accessing The Baths with limited mobility may be a challenge. The trails themselves may be an issue depending on the level of limitation. If navigating the trails is possible, you can visit each end of The Baths. However, passing through The Baths will require dexterity. Squatting very low while traversing under boulders is common. There are also steep steps and sloped rock to walk up and down. Some areas provide (and almost require) the use of a rope handhold for assistance. I hope this helps.
@shanadey1368
@shanadey1368 6 ай бұрын
ok thank you I think i shouold add we just want to go to the baths beach not just devils bay, we are contetn if we cant walk in the baths themselves thats why I thought maybe by the baths beach there is a straight trail somewhere thank you @@ToddMiddlebrooks
@timdemming6352
@timdemming6352 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. What happens during hurricanes? And who absorbs the lost value should the boat become damaged?
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 6 ай бұрын
Our boat will remain in the BVI for hurricane season. Should we incur any damage or loss dues to a storm, the insurance carried by The Moorings on our vessel will kick in. One of our partners experienced a total loss during hurricane Irma in 2017 and the Moorings handled the insurance process and replacement of his vessel. This is one of the reasons I have even more confidence in The Moorings as a company.
@timdemming6352
@timdemming6352 6 ай бұрын
@@ToddMiddlebrooks Thank you for the reply. In the states, the insurance company pays for all repairs to automobiles after an accident. However, the automobile is still valued 10-30% less than a similar vehicle that has not been in an accident even if there is no evidence of an accident. If this is similar with yachts, does the insurance company compensate the owner for the loss in value?
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 6 ай бұрын
This is an excellent question. I’m only familiar with total loss scenarios, so you bring up a great point. I've found in our agreement that there is a required "lender loss payable clause" in our included insurance policy, "in the event of a final determination that there has been an actual or constructive total loss of the Yacht." I hope this helps answer your question.
@ericraffini5199
@ericraffini5199 6 ай бұрын
On your boat this week as our new 5000 is still waiting documentation. She’s still running like new. No issues whatsoever. The name of our 5000 is “Ondine”
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for commenting and letting me know Eric! I hope you enjoy your time on Waymaker and congrats on your 5000!
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 6 ай бұрын
I doubt they have the name on our boat yet, but if so, could you send us a photo? Thanks!
@rhoab
@rhoab 6 ай бұрын
What was the charter company for this boat and where did you depart?
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 6 ай бұрын
Hey Brian, we chartered this boat through what was Sailing Florida at the time. They are now a part of Waypoints. We departed from the Vinoy Marina in St. Petersburg. I hope this helps. Are you looking to charter in that area?
@thomasbrasse3145
@thomasbrasse3145 7 ай бұрын
Would love regular updates on this ownership experience. Still thinking. Similar situation as you.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! I’m working on updates that will be coming soon.
@BruceJones-vt4cm
@BruceJones-vt4cm 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info Todd!! We are currently reviewing Moorings/Sunsail! Have you now taken possession? What make/model/etc. did you purchase? Any updates to share? Also, cabin layout? We are looking at the 4 cabin version instead of an owners suite. Thanks in advance!
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment Bruce! I’m planning a follow up video soon. We closed on our boat in August and it arrived in the BVI at the beginning of November. We went with the Moorings 5000 (Leopard 50) in a 4-cabin layout. The nice thing about that floor plan is that you get four cabins with an owner’s suite! Best of luck in your process. Let me know if I can help in any way.
@BruceJones-vt4cm
@BruceJones-vt4cm 7 ай бұрын
Look forward to seeing your cat and more of your adventures and memories as you make them!!😎
@mikepayne1350
@mikepayne1350 8 ай бұрын
I just left the program. I loved it. I got to sail all over the world. If you don't have the time to take all the trips its not a great deal. I went on my actual boat once in last 3 years.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 8 ай бұрын
So glad you had a good experience Mike! I’m looking forward to sailing in as many locations as possible over the next several years.
@BoulderMTBR
@BoulderMTBR 10 ай бұрын
The simple economics are that you EFFECTIVELY SPEND $45,000 per year as a Moorings “owner”. 1. You must buy the boat. 2. Moorings sends you cash during 5 years in the program. 3. You sell the boat. When you factor cash/loan to buy, monthly cash-in during the program, and cash from selling the boat, you will have been out of pocket around $45,000 per year--for 5 years. So, you can simply compare the cost of a la carte chartering you might do to a $45,000/yr baseline.
@opiein382
@opiein382 10 ай бұрын
Would you consider the water deep? I’m not the strongest swimmer and traveling with a 5 year old.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 10 ай бұрын
The water is fairly deep until you get pretty close to the beach. However, there are lines that lead from the dinghy tie line to shore that you can pull yourself in on. Just be careful as there can be growth on the line that could potentially scratch or cut your skin.
@opiein382
@opiein382 10 ай бұрын
@@ToddMiddlebrooks thank you for your response!
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 10 ай бұрын
@opiein382 You’re welcome! I hope you have a great trip!
@6800891
@6800891 10 ай бұрын
Im ignorant. How does this compare with simply renting when you want to? Then if you are able to go full time, buy one of the post charter boat either alone or with a buddy?
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 10 ай бұрын
If you only plan to sail once per year or so, then chartering is definitely the way to go. However, if you want to charter up to 12 weeks per year, then this type of ownership allows you to do so much more economically. It's a great option for between occasionally chartering and full boat ownership. I guess it depends on how you want to sail and own a boat. Many stay in a program like this forever, because it fits their needs. I hope to move on to full ownership at some point and sail my boat when, where and as much as I can.
@jaycohen4335
@jaycohen4335 10 ай бұрын
You really seem to like how you have access to their boats at many of their locations. I guess they didn’t tell you at the boat show that they have a public facing website, where you can book boats as a charter and not buy a asset that will be beat to hell. You also mentioned professional maintenance, have you been to their Tortola location? Good luck with that, hope your boat arrived on time and isn’t late(first sign of a journey that you will end up regretting). This is a time share like situation. Ever wonder if it made sense, why Morning’s just doesn’t buy the boats?
@sv.alannah
@sv.alannah 2 ай бұрын
Yep.. stupid stupid stupid. You buy the boat they use it all they want. Bottom line you bought a boat you can not afford hoping it all works out. However you have access to some other nasty charter boats all over the world you can use. Please the boat you bought will take you there... just go where you want to sail. Absolutely a time share but one you got to buy a 500K plus boat to join. A firggin joke. You pay for the boat and the charter company (The Moorings) makes all the money all the while trashing your boat. Do name it properly something like... ss party barge or better still ss motel 6 because buy the time Moorings is done with it she will be a dumpster fire with pecker tracks from bow to stern.
@coop3014
@coop3014 10 ай бұрын
They’re called “ports” not “bases”.
@tmhudg
@tmhudg 7 ай бұрын
The town or harbor is the port. The company has "bases" at the ports. When you are returning from your charter and have to call in to arrange docking, you call "Mooring Base, Moorings Base, this is...".
@comesatime123
@comesatime123 10 ай бұрын
The financial outcome depends a lot on the boat’s residual value in 5 years. People who bought 5 years ago ended up doing very well due to Covid and inflation. Time will tell. If you can use it as a US tax shelter and like boating, it is very attractive but I don’t think a lot of their buyers set it up to meet all of the requirements to tax deduct it.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. We have put in a lot of work up front to ensure we maximize our sailing fun and the benefits of ownership. Ultimately our goal is to reduce the costs of sailing over the term of the agreement. To what extent we’re able to do that depends on the market for sure.
@DerekMurawsky
@DerekMurawsky 11 ай бұрын
How did they handle the guaranteed income during COVID when everything was locked down? How guaranteed is "guaranteed"? I recall hearing horror stories about this.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 11 ай бұрын
While I was not in the program at the time, one of my boat partners was. They continued to make the guaranteed payments to owners, even though in many locations they weren't able to charter at all. This is one of the things that gave me confidence in their program.
@DerekMurawsky
@DerekMurawsky 11 ай бұрын
@@ToddMiddlebrooks Wow, ok, that gives me some real confidence as well. Good for them! And thanks for the response. :)
@brettharman8921
@brettharman8921 10 ай бұрын
in 2020 i was thinking about that as well. these companies must have taken on so much debt to cover "guarantees" it is scary, especially with declining boat values-
@DerekMurawsky
@DerekMurawsky 10 ай бұрын
@@brettharman8921 I just assumed they had a loophole in the contract and bailed on the payments... I'm glad to hear they didn't. I wonder if they added the clause to the contract afterwards... 😂 I have major trust issues with stuff like this.
@chrislahey4276
@chrislahey4276 11 ай бұрын
So it's a time share basically? How it's described sounds alot like a time share and with the bad reputation of other types of time shares I think I'd pass. To each their own but I associate time shares with scams.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 11 ай бұрын
Hey Chris, I can see how this might look similar to a timeshare model. A lot of people think that when they first hear it. The difference is a fractional time share is typically an asset (condo, Villa, home, etc) that is owned by the timeshare company and sold or leased in fractions of “ownership” that correspond with the use the buyer gets. In The Moorings model, we actually own the asset and place it in their charter system for use. In return we receive guaranteed income and the ability to use any of their boats at all of their bases, for a certain amount of time each year over the term of the agreement. At the end of the agreement term, we still own 100% of the boat. Thanks for watching and I hope this helps!
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks 11 ай бұрын
Check out the current ferry schedule at VI Now : bit.ly/bviferry
@demarc2911
@demarc2911 Жыл бұрын
😩 Promo>SM
@stinkintoad
@stinkintoad Жыл бұрын
Yep - that trail sucked. It was hot and some of my crew complained until we hit the water features way towards the end.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
It can definitely be hot for sure. It’s important to have water and some type of shoes for the trail. The water and rock features make it worth it. I hope you and your crew ultimately had a great time!
@emmashindler7491
@emmashindler7491 Жыл бұрын
🎉
@Skupik1
@Skupik1 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear more about the details, costs and the overall budget if it comes to Moorings.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
The actual costs depends on the vessel and base location, but is something I could go into more detail in future episodes for sure. You can also see a lot of information on the pro-forma sheets for each vessel at www.mooringsyachtownership.com/pricing
@Skupik1
@Skupik1 Жыл бұрын
@@ToddMiddlebrooks Yeah, I went through advertisement brochures already - but would like to hear some honest truth. ;)
@dronsimon9069
@dronsimon9069 Жыл бұрын
this knot is dangerous to use without additional safety knots at the running end
@captainbuddyfantastic4181
@captainbuddyfantastic4181 8 ай бұрын
Wrong.
@eprohoda
@eprohoda Жыл бұрын
Todd! Greetings. top video~ I'll be back. 🤟
@roselynrobin4525
@roselynrobin4525 Жыл бұрын
🤘 Promo>SM
@user-zt7it4yk7v
@user-zt7it4yk7v Жыл бұрын
This is amazing keep the good work up
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@socialfireechurch
@socialfireechurch Жыл бұрын
Great video Todd! Very informative video.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I appreciate the feedback!
@MarieA787
@MarieA787 Жыл бұрын
Why there is not a cashier area down in the beach for those that only want to stay at the beach and not hike...
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
That’s a great question. My guess is mainly to control one-way flow through the park. Also, it would take double the staff.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Pick up the Cruising Guide here ➡️ amzn.to/3C2btaN (affiliate link)
@AngelLadyCrystals
@AngelLadyCrystals Жыл бұрын
This is very informative and offers someone so much to help them plan their Virgin Islands chater!
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Get the latest edition of Cruising Guide to the Virgin Islands here ➡ amzn.to/428OSE0
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Check out charter company options in the BVI: bit.ly/bvichartercompanies
@consciousmachine4138
@consciousmachine4138 Жыл бұрын
U made this much simpler to understand than others on KZfaq. Not sure why...lol. thank you!!
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching!
@peterlamere1982
@peterlamere1982 Жыл бұрын
The BVId has become very over crowded with charter boats. An alternative is chartering in the USVI and sailing to the Spanish Virgin Islands which in many of the anchorages has no ball requirements and is free too anchor.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
We love sailing in the USVI as well. I have yet to make it over to the SVI, but would like to plan a trip soon.
@dougfitch3649
@dougfitch3649 10 ай бұрын
Ive sailed BVIs before way back in 2000. Lots of fun. USVI and SVI sound cool too.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Buy your own line to practice at home: amzn.to/3IiEGSe
@waytospergtherebro
@waytospergtherebro Жыл бұрын
There weren't enough videos about this on the internet. Thanks Todd Middlebrooks.
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Full video here -> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qJacrMmct9nDlp8.html
@stonemiddlebrooks3396
@stonemiddlebrooks3396 Жыл бұрын
top notch Todd!! I’ll refer back to this video while you’re yelling at me to tie off the line!
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Yes, keep practicing!
@influentialvisions
@influentialvisions Жыл бұрын
Epic video, so makes want to visit the Caribbean again….
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
See the full video here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9-GbLijvriWmqs.html
@thatchristianinrecovery7307
@thatchristianinrecovery7307 Жыл бұрын
Good job! I watched it with my wife and she said to see what else he has for us to visit. 🤣🔥💯
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@zacharyhooley
@zacharyhooley Жыл бұрын
Todd, this is incredibly well done. Crystal clear voiceover and camera footage! If anyone wants to visit The Baths, this is THE video to watch. 👀
@ToddMiddlebrooks
@ToddMiddlebrooks Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I appreciate the feedback.
@stonemiddlebrooks3396
@stonemiddlebrooks3396 Жыл бұрын
That man Todd always brings the heat!! Can’t wait for the premier‼️
@qballsadventures4952
@qballsadventures4952 Жыл бұрын
Don't do business with St Petersburg municipal Marina they wanted to charge me $3,000 a month for a transient slip to wait for a window to cross the Gulf their price gouging hurricane victims
@mauricef7585
@mauricef7585 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. You should check out PromoSM!!! ! Lots of people are using it to help grow their channel.
@tjmiddlebrooks
@tjmiddlebrooks 3 жыл бұрын
👏 👏 👏
@trippyoung1784
@trippyoung1784 3 жыл бұрын
Had so much fun!!!! Thank you!!