Robert McKee Story Business Seminar
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11 жыл бұрын
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@yaboydolphin
@yaboydolphin Жыл бұрын
Character B: Just let me... B
@spoiler321
@spoiler321 Жыл бұрын
Funny how he keeps repeating himself lol
@AnavonRebeur
@AnavonRebeur Жыл бұрын
He didnt say anything useful😢
@davidstorme8748
@davidstorme8748 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, my lump of words took 30 seconds of my time… I’m writing a comedy and couldn’t resist…
@davidstorme8748
@davidstorme8748 Жыл бұрын
Just kidding…
@davidstorme8748
@davidstorme8748 Жыл бұрын
Sample of your first: A: Leave me alone. B: Quirt skirtin’ the issue and maybe I would. A: Piss off, you’re givin’ me ‘gas’. B: dude, I don’t think you’re grasping the gravity of the situation. A: not now, I’ve got more important crap on my plate. B: How long are you planning on hiding your head up your ass, perhaps it would better suit your frickin’ Highness if I submitted a written proposal for a time more mutually pleasing… huh! A: Suck it up, Buttercup! I find your incessant ‘whinging’ to be both tiresome and, at best, a profligate misappropriation of time better spent watching my toenails grow… now, run-along sweet-innocent child born of infallible naïveté, and hence, be at halcyon pensivities leisure and bringe the thou no more the weight of your inner maladies and afflictions to which, no man of standard measure of reason could not without excessive merit for which to do such admirable, yet unrequited gregarious help unto forthcoming, be that if your consignment, or squalid lassitude born of time and again honored abject complacency, such loathe some sloth beseeched you and begeht you willing Part to gluttonous self-praise, be you slain in your own blinded contrivance…
@FathomlessJoy
@FathomlessJoy Жыл бұрын
Liz Taylor and Richard Burton repeat almost every line in the opening of Who's Afraid of Virgina Woolf, at least twice, sometimes three times or more. The first line ("What a dump!") Taylor says at least 4 times in 2 minutes, but makes a little guessing game out of it. Such a powerful way to expose her character, highlight their relationship, and drive home the dig (spoiled little rich Dean's daughter, slumming with a lowly history teacher, complaining about her "dump" of a house, living with her "dump" of a husband). You'd be hard pressed to find a finer first 10 minutes of film. Try. You'd be hard pressed. Those first 10 minutes. Find a finer first 10 minutes. Try.
@j.goebbels2134
@j.goebbels2134 Жыл бұрын
"What do you mean I'm funny? Funny how? No, how am I funny? No Anthony, he's a big boy, he said it, let him answer, how am I funny? Maybe it's me, but funny how? How am I funny? You said it? How the F am I funny?"
@j.goebbels2134
@j.goebbels2134 Жыл бұрын
"Who are those guys?" "Who are those guys?" "Who are those guys?" ~William Goldman, in the highest-priced screenplay in history.
@j.goebbels2134
@j.goebbels2134 Жыл бұрын
"If you can't find that stuff in life then you my friend don't know CRAP about life!" Charlie Kaufman
@thedarintino
@thedarintino Жыл бұрын
The best way to write realistic dialogue is to say it out loud. You’ll know right away if it’s natural or clunky.
@atomsmovie
@atomsmovie 2 жыл бұрын
👁💚💧🎬💉🧬🦋
@askarsfan2011
@askarsfan2011 2 жыл бұрын
Example of repetitiveness: "Are you lost, baby girl?"
@edgarbleikur1929
@edgarbleikur1929 3 жыл бұрын
Starts at 2:40.
@colinwhitfield8627
@colinwhitfield8627 3 жыл бұрын
lol. "lock Her Up" "stop the steal" "build the wall" Those were repeated ad nauseum. Seemed to actually INCREASE the impact. Yikes.
@tombradford7035
@tombradford7035 3 жыл бұрын
Goo Goo Goo Joob.
@joeletaxi821
@joeletaxi821 3 жыл бұрын
British TV in a nutshell - Female driven police dramas that repeat the same beats over and over and over. We look to America for original TV.
@easybullet3
@easybullet3 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if I counted 10 traits.. (unless he repeated some of them)
@miaveranika30
@miaveranika30 4 жыл бұрын
DnD should watch this video
@gavincharles8501
@gavincharles8501 4 жыл бұрын
In other words if your dialogue sucks 🤣
@chriscroz
@chriscroz 4 жыл бұрын
David Mamet + Robert McKee = Head explodes.
@Amadeus_2061
@Amadeus_2061 4 жыл бұрын
"Search for the perfect choice." So true for so much of the creative process. I'm a writer and also an illustrator, and the same goes for illustration. No matter your skill and talent, and even the clarity of the vision inside your head, you are still searching for the lines and shapes that best capture and refine that vision. It's rarely a "nailed it" process. Rather, it's always a seeking process. Patience, resilience and trust in your own ability that eventually you will find the best choice, is what I found served me best as I developed as a writer and illustrator.
@Big_Dai
@Big_Dai 2 жыл бұрын
No. That's a fallacy. There's no "perfect choice", specially not when "constrained by time".. and by that I mean a real limit and the point in which you decide to move forward to another project. Creativity cannot be forced, and a better choice might appear suddenly in your head years later when nothing can be changed. It's a matter of fate most of the time.. and the best that is within reach.
@Amadeus_2061
@Amadeus_2061 2 жыл бұрын
@@Big_Dai That is true. The "best choice" is indeed limited by time and ability.
@funkymunky
@funkymunky 4 жыл бұрын
Some old fart teaching young farts how to have a conversation...while doing a monologue. Go on.
@jonah_da_mann
@jonah_da_mann 5 жыл бұрын
He just summarized almost 80% of Final Fantasy XIII's dialogue.
@jjjuhg
@jjjuhg 5 жыл бұрын
This is gold for creative people. Subscribe !
@allinthemind2006
@allinthemind2006 5 жыл бұрын
is it weird that i love exposition in film? i like the feeling of Im there in the experience in this crazy world like most of the long drawn out scenes in space odyssey. I like it when mood and archetypal imagery symbolism somewhat over shadow the characters.
@aptonymic3014
@aptonymic3014 4 жыл бұрын
Exposition is information needed for the audience to understand the story, so when there's too much it takes you out as it no longer becomes about developing the plot organically becuase the film is essentially talking to you
@FathomlessJoy
@FathomlessJoy Жыл бұрын
Most films have to have some level of exposition. How the information is presented determines how it fits in the film.
@PhilSvitekYT
@PhilSvitekYT 5 жыл бұрын
Robert McKee is a fantastic teacher. I remember seeing him live in 2009 for his seminar. It's intense but was such a powerful experience. Taught me so much.
@BazColne
@BazColne 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation.
@atallguynh
@atallguynh 5 жыл бұрын
@4:15 -- a typical evening with my teenagers. @4:35 -- same @4:55 -- yes, exactly
@robwealer5416
@robwealer5416 5 жыл бұрын
He was kinda repeating himself... but I got the message. I've been guilty of this in my writing, harping on a theme and milking it for a page when one exchange would suffice.
@fabianocruz9348
@fabianocruz9348 5 жыл бұрын
Where is part 2?
@Randomnomad2024
@Randomnomad2024 5 жыл бұрын
i got your books. story and dialogue 👌🏼💪👍
@sweakley1
@sweakley1 5 жыл бұрын
His book "Story' is worth reading. This sounds like a lot of blather about the obvious
@DFMoray
@DFMoray 6 жыл бұрын
Bay-nal.
@j.m.waterfordasxiphanex3738
@j.m.waterfordasxiphanex3738 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr. McKee, Thank you for this analysis. X
@outdoorminer5533
@outdoorminer5533 6 жыл бұрын
How did so many people in the comments miss the point of what you were trying to say? We really are living in the times of the infographic and countdown generation. I guess you should get a Buzzfeed like editor for your videos so people understand them. Again, thank you. I love your no-nonsense approach to writing. It is a battle. Not some formulaic bullshit where a thesaurus substitutes actual thinking process.
@feralmode
@feralmode 5 жыл бұрын
An Morein agreed. Top comment totally misses the point. forgive the repetition...
@outdoorminer5533
@outdoorminer5533 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. You are extremely helpful, to the point. You don't offer formulaic alternatives as do most "writers" on KZfaq. You understand the importance of style and the power of language. Thank you.
@DDavis-mi2cg
@DDavis-mi2cg 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice. Thanks!
@Bezzy3
@Bezzy3 6 жыл бұрын
he spent half the video talking about writers repeating themselves... stop halfway if you want to save yourself 300 seconds of your life.
@Terrakinetic
@Terrakinetic 6 жыл бұрын
I know in teaching repetition is necessary to really drive home a point and commit it to the learners' memory, but I still laugh at the irony here.
@JeffBedrick
@JeffBedrick 6 жыл бұрын
Nine minutes of him saying "don't repeat yourself" in many different ways.
@feralmode
@feralmode 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Bedrick that’s a bit simplistic. Maybe you need to watch it again.
@MadeInQns
@MadeInQns 5 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA. Comon man, he also gave suggestions. 😂
@MichaelTanMusic
@MichaelTanMusic 4 жыл бұрын
oh the irony
@greatmomentsofopera7170
@greatmomentsofopera7170 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, that’s funny. However, he’s not writing a movie, he’s teaching a lesson and in lessons information does need to be repeated many times in many ways.but it tells you something about bad films - they’re lessons which is why they’re a chore to watch!
@finc4164
@finc4164 2 жыл бұрын
he has to repeat it so people like you understand. Read the comments in here, he said for 10 minutes dont use repetition, and the comments are like "ohhhhh well,...you can use it sometimes" (facepalm)
@ashtongrist
@ashtongrist 6 жыл бұрын
i dont wanna talk about it ... the room
@rashmika9742
@rashmika9742 6 жыл бұрын
I was so surprised when I saw that he helped to craft the stories of older Barbie movies. 😮
@rosolenn
@rosolenn 4 жыл бұрын
Was that Barbarella or Barbed Wired?
@DocSportello838
@DocSportello838 6 жыл бұрын
and what about "life is like a box of chocolates" ? sometimes repetition can add depth to the theme by showing the meaning of the phrase trough diferent perspectives
@myendeokatch9043
@myendeokatch9043 6 жыл бұрын
joaquinlucom123 but then it isn’t just repeating the same action. It becomes relevant in a different context.
@leonreaper90
@leonreaper90 6 жыл бұрын
But that's important to the story. He's talking about useless shit dialogue being repeated
@karlayork877
@karlayork877 7 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how long he blathered on and on about not repeating oneself, while he said the same thing over and over in slightly different words, because I gave up before he was done. This is an "expert"?
@DDavis-mi2cg
@DDavis-mi2cg 6 жыл бұрын
Karla York -- This comment is from an iconic disrespectful moron who'll never make it as a screenwriter.
@outdoorminer5533
@outdoorminer5533 6 жыл бұрын
I actually thought he gave very helpful examples of types of repetition. The difference between repetition and actual content in dialogue.
@j.goebbels2134
@j.goebbels2134 6 жыл бұрын
There is a difference between actual movie dialogue and lecturing about proper use of dialogue.
@horacelidenbrock3905
@horacelidenbrock3905 6 жыл бұрын
Pedagogical language is based on repetition...
@j.goebbels2134
@j.goebbels2134 6 жыл бұрын
Repetition and reiteration have a place, perhaps, in human discourse. What McKee is pointing out is that it does not work at all in movie dialogue. Every bad script or B movie I see commits these errors, saying the same things again and again because they failed to find the essence of what they want to sa and thus to say it only once.
@joevanwyk6096
@joevanwyk6096 7 жыл бұрын
Wait.. what happened to the other 9?... Can't find the other matching lessons?
@therealr0bert
@therealr0bert 7 жыл бұрын
I think I have story talent pouring out my ears, but my literary talent needs a lot of development. Anything that helps me work on this is immensely valuable.
@rievans57
@rievans57 7 жыл бұрын
Writing is like making a pot out of clay. You need a glob of clay in order to begin the process. The words are your clay and McKee's book then tells you how to shape and mold...
@BenRangel
@BenRangel 8 жыл бұрын
Somewhat disagree. Repetition can sometimes be used in a good way. Off the top of my head just take the monologue in Taxi Driver. Repetition is used to great effect in many dialogues as it is a way to show bickering, to stress point or show that a character is maniacal about something. And having a character repeat the same line multiple times in a movie also be an interesting callback.
@interestedparty7523
@interestedparty7523 8 жыл бұрын
He's referring to the beat not actual words repeated in a character's speech, though sometimes words can in fact repeat beats.
@migol1984
@migol1984 8 жыл бұрын
It's been said before, know the rules before you break them. Although I don't think that Scorsese was even breaking the rules there like McKee mentions here, he was going inside the mind of a psychopath. "Listen here you fuckers, you screwheads, here is a man who would - listen here you fuckers, you screwheads, here is a man who would not take it anymore, here is a man who would not --" Bickle was a very troubled man with no purpose, angry at everyone and no one for his shortcomings in life. That little bit only reveals this element to his character as he was writing on his journal, normally changing his purpose as he is writing in his journal. It's symbolic of his own insanity, wandering left and right, so much we don't know what he will do until he saves the girl. It points to all indications that we literally do not know what exactly is boiling up in Bickle's mind.
@BenRangel
@BenRangel 8 жыл бұрын
migol1984 Bickle might be insane, but I would say the mirror monologue is very similar to what how most regular talk when practicing a speech or something in the mirror :) Using a monologue isn't a great example to prove my point though. Another one would be the "it's not your fault" from Good Will Hunting. In fact I would say repetition quite often creates very memorable scenes.
@migol1984
@migol1984 8 жыл бұрын
+BenRangel he is saying what he is writing in his journal.
@migol1984
@migol1984 8 жыл бұрын
+BenRangel we never actually see him speak those words, let alone in front of a mirror. watch it again. everything is voice over. we are in bickle's mind.
@gst9325
@gst9325 8 жыл бұрын
cant this be summarized as just - dont add anything superficial. write it in a way people communicate in real life ?
@kelechijudeart
@kelechijudeart 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, he mentioned writing dialogue as an amplified version of real life communication, where he talks about literacy talent, using the right words, phrases. In screenwriting, writing in a way that people communicate in real life works, one could get away with it but the most memorable moments, words or dialogues are the ones that are quite unusual but yet meaningful in relation to the scene. Hope this helps.
@gst9325
@gst9325 7 жыл бұрын
thank you
@mwj5368
@mwj5368 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Martin! You ask a good question. This is only my amateur view. Dialogue in novels or screenplay is not "normal" conversation is what I gather. Dialogue in a story is difficult to write because it is not "normal" conversation yet you must do your best to make it sound normal. The dialogue is a means of conveying information where what is being said carries meaning to the story. For that reason it is not normal conversation. That is why Robert tells one to record oneself like for example at their job with coworkers. Play it back later and it doesn't really have a lot of meaning. Dialogue in story serves two purposes, one for sounding natural and two for conveying some kind of meaning or information relative to the story you are writing. That's just my take on it all. To anyone, let me know if I'm wrong. I hope I helped.