As a welder, this is embarrassing lol. I can cut this shit out in literally 20 seconds

Why no bike locks with built in taser function? 40,000 volts activated by touching it 🤔

Thanks for the video! For future tests, could you also show metric equivalents? Even in the US, most of this stuff is in metric now.

You would have to be faster if that bike has some kind of GPS alert system on it!! just think if a person is at the back of a store and that alert goes off on his phone two minutes your busted

if i install under roof (front door) where no direct sunlight, how long does the battery last ?

I cut through a typical U lock in 4 minutes with 18v Makita angle grinder (store manager hired me to do it). Toughest to cut metal contains bits of ceramic that destroy blades. (hiplock D1000 for ex.)

Abus chains can be acquired by the foot from the factory. The 14mm size (14KS) is about $47 per foot...

Interesting comparison...but I’m wondering why you wasted time flipping the link around in the vise, since you could have just cut the other side from any angle...including rotating the base...

Buy good locks. Place your bike in a public spot. Place your bike next to a better looking and/or more expensive bike, preferably with less and/or worse locks. Hang your chain loosely around and between the bike and what you are using to secure the bike. That will make grinding with a angle grinder harder, because they have a hard time keeping the grinder on the same spot of the chain or cable. Never put a chain or cable on the ground, so they can't use the ground as a surface to put their cutter on and use their weight as leverage to cut your chain or cable or to keep the cable/chain in one spot easily for a grinder. Use two or three different types of locks. That way picking the locks and or cutting or grinding the locks takes more time: i.e. use a chain to secure your bike to something sturdy, like a tree or fence, use cables to lock your front and rear wheels together, use U lock(s) to secure your wheel(s) to your frame.

Crazy recording function.

Turns out a crackhead with an angle grinder is still unstoppable. If a factor of 30 seconds or so wont help you, maybe dont spend too much. That said if youre home youll definitely hear a grinder cutting for a solid 3 minutes

The only thing I can think to counter this is have a gps tracking device hidden somewhere inside the bike

Part of the effectiveness of a chain is trying to hold it. You wouldn't have a bench vice in the street... try again without the vice.

If you want security for a good bike -buy a grinder resistant U lock and a good chain with a shrouded padlock ? If it's an ordinary cheap " Beater Bike " use a chain with a cover and a decent padlock ! Good info but remember the thief will need to hold the chain steady during the cutting process !! Thanks

Are the camera specs the same on the s220 and 2C pro. Meaning are they the same except for the built in solar panel?

Cutting a chain not held by a vise will be 100% harder.

if you have a quick release on the front wheel, it might require its own set of security. maybe the front wheel inside the vehicle would help. using a very thick cable is still a good idea i addition to a chain, particularly for the front wheel. the reason is the thief might need to carry more equipment and bolt cutters are bulkier than an angle grinder to be carrying around. the more stuff a thief needs to bring with him, the longer it may take to get through all the layers. since this is about the bike rack, you are not limited to weight and portability lime you would biking around then locking it to a stationary object. in that case, you can put a bunch of thick cables all over and around with their own locks. cables which are lighter than a chain but very thick won’t necessarily scratch up your car. if parked, motion sensors help too.

Does anyone know exact type/name of fabric sleeve used in those chains ? I like soft/flexible and thick fabric on Master Lock chain I have. I ask because I'm making my own chain. I found some fabric on aliexpress site but I'm unsure how thick and flexible they are compared to ML chain sleeve for example.

thanks for adding all the variables!

Wondering what the length of your chain is in the video

If you have people with angle grinders cutting off heavy chains in the street, then there's a problem with law enforcement and not with the chains. There is hardly any bicycle theft in Japan. Otoh in places like London, scumbags grind off chains on a busy street in broad daylight, not caring about the bystanders who yell at them.

Where can you review the videos? My events just show "switch to home" and "disarmed."

Please consider including metric measurements for the rest of the world outside the USA

If only I could buy a lock that comes without a table and table vise.😂

Try abus granite 2400

Then you can buy sleeves for the cheaper chains..

Can I use two cameras on the app or do I have to have the homebase 2-3?

hey great video! but what a great test would be to try and cut it with the grinder in a real life scenario. lock something up and be the criminal trying to cut it. just to see how long it would really take to break in.

Chain locks would be better choice & security if they were designed round circle chains so they wiggle/move more around - making it difficult to cut and to hold. And lock should be smaller something like Abus Granit 37RK/80 (seeing it in next video) And on top of that I would add more chains like this together 3 or 4 more in same fabric sleeve so there are multiple chains to cut, adding much more time to stop the theft or thief to give up. Also adding pepper powder inside of fabric sleeve would be nice bonus when they start to cut haha 🤭 I will try to make/assemble this chain lock one day when I have free time. "You" (reader) are free to use this idea if you want. Just mention my channel if you go public with my idea. (I currently don't have related videos bc I don't have time to make YT videos. But I add in playlists useful & educative videos from others like this one. I was researching about strongest bike locks on the market and now chains because I intend to use them both.) 🦾

I saw people breaking these Abus chains with bolt cutters on YT

Hello, this is Lockpickinglawyer. Today I will show you how to pick a bike lock using another bike lock.

I want to see how long it takes the cut the chain in real world situations where the chain is off the ground without a vice.

Why didn’t you use millimeter to measure like most chains are measured by even in the USA. Everyone that uses chains to locks bikes up knows them by mm. It universal. Inches are not. I live in the USA and was born here.

Thank you

People don't pick locks, they break them. Who is going to sit there and use lock picking tools to steal a bicycle?

I transport my mtbike inside my van. it's out of site and out of of the elements. nice to be able to stop at a Cafe or shop on the way home, or go on an extended road trip and not worry about the bike

fantastic video, thanks!

The Locks are completely useless if you can cut through the links like butter with a Angle grinder. Waste of money.

If you didn't rotate it, it would be 2x faster.

I’m using stainless steel chain, it’s pretty tuff.

This is not accurate information, thieves are not carrying vise tools, assuming there is space to put it, and hold the chain in place, try to repeat the test, with the chain hanging on a bike or something, this is ridiculous

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To sum up: ALL chains are WORTHLESS against angle grinders. The ONLY locks currently available that resist angle grinders are the HipLock D1000 and the Litelok X3. They will take several minutes and up to 5 replacement discs to get through. So unless the thief has the replacement discs with him and a lot of time, your bike will be protected. However, these locks are very expensive!

Those test with a vise are totally irrelevant. Stupid video.

I wonder why they don't put a small cover over the camera lens so rain doesn't get in the way

I have two of the Abus 1/2" chains for locking up our e-bikes at night when at a campground. Only an angle grinder will cut that, so the noise should draw enough attention to wake up the dogs, have time turn them loose and get my firearm. For real protection in town, I have an Hiplock D 1000 and a Litelok X3. Those are the only two D locks I've seen that are angle grinder resistant. I think the more protection and resistance for your bike that makes it harder to take will deter most of the small time thieves and they'll move on to an easier target. Nothing is 100% theft resistant. Given time and tools, they can steal anything. You're only buying time and hope that they'll give up and move on. Be safe!

When locking my electric bike in the main open corridor of my apartment building, I use a motion alarm (w/remote control key fob), a long shackle steel body American Lock with tubular core to lock seat to battery rack, remove battery and bring it inside, a Forever Lock u-lock (version #1) to lock back (motor) wheel to frame, and a 12mm hexagonal hardened steel Schlage ring loop chain to lock frame to front wheel to banister and secure that chain with a Sargent and Greenleaf 831B-M military padlock with Medeco core. And I have two hidden tracking devices: one Samsung SmartTag Plus and one Solum Smart Tag. When locking to bike racks outside of businesses around town, the only difference is that I don't secure the back (motor) wheel and I use a shrouded shackle Kasp 19070X (6-pin Yale keyway) padlock with Ilco Bump Stop spring installed in pin chambers 5 and 6 (plus the usual spool pin drivers in the remaining chambers) through the Schlage chain to secure front wheel to frame to rack, and I use a steel Harley-Davidson branded Kryptonite disc detainer disc brake lock on the back wheel, and a Tung Sheng steel disc brake lock on the front wheel. Three weeks ago when locked to the rack in front of the grocery store directly underneath the security camera at 1pm with security guard 4 feet away inside the store, I was still using the Abus 7mm square chain with a Miracle Lock (laminated steel padlock with the Chubb Ava style core) (and did not engage the motion alarm so others locking bikes near mine would not be disturbed) (and left the battery in the bike) while I was inside the store for exactly 10 minutes the thief used an angle grinder to cut the 7mm chain and stole my bike. At that time I only had one tracking device hidden on the bike (the Samsung SmartTag Plus). I tracked it down and 1 hour 20 minutes later I located it and took my bike back.

What a great video. Just today I was looking for a hardened chain for my Harley. So glad I found your video. Thanks for your in depth comparisons.

Super video! This solve a huge problem. Buying twice the cheapest chain is more economical than once the expensive chain, and it appears much more intimidating to a thief with twice the chain. Thanks!

Most people do millimeters.