14 year old girl. Her dad asked Joseph to marry her and it was never consummated.

Arguing about one bullshit made up religion with another bullshit made up religion. Those people are a waste of space.

I love having Deacon John down here in Utah County, St. Xenia. There certainty have been many times he was the only one to sit and listen to my burdens and craziness that is my life. What a blessing he is to those around him.

Dave Bartosiewisz says there’s nothing that Christians have to do to obtain salvation other than have faith. But faith without works is dead. This is what the Bible says is needed for salvation; Matthew 3:7,8. Matthew 18:3-5. Matthew 18:8,9. Matthew 19:17. Matthew 25. Mark 16:16. Luke 6:46-49. John 3:5. John 15:1-17. Romans 2:1-11. Philippians 2:12. Hebrews 5:9, James 2:14-26. 1 John 1:7. 1 John 2:3-6. 1 John 3:7. 1 John 3:22-24. 1 John 5:2,3. Revelation 3:20. Revelation 14:12,13. Revelation 22:14.

LDS are biblical Christians you bigot.

They don't test them. They pray to receive a burning in the bosom that the church is true. The Bible is not considered the true word of God. When people bare testimony they say I know Joseph Smith was a true prophet. Of course you will believe it hearing it constantly. And they don't want You reading books or anything that goes against the church. I know because I was a members for 32 years. Thank you Jesus for rescuing me.

To say Heavenly Father has a body of “flesh and bones” does not mean you have to believe he was birthed. God has no limitations.

Dave is one of the biggest deceivers in the fight against the Lord’s church. Alma 22:14 says, “And since man had fallen, he could not merit anything of himself; but the suffering and death of Christ atone for their sins, through faith and repentance, and so forth; and that he breaketh the bands of death, that the grave shall have no victory, and that the sting of death should be swallowed up in the hopes of glory; and Aaron did expand all these things unto the king.” We don’t not preach that we have to earn salvation.

What a jerk that ‘Christian’ was!

Do you keep your mouth open until the priest removes the spoon or do you close your mouth on the spoon like a child being fed?

Faith is credited UNTO (leading to) righteousness. Faith itself is not what justifies, faith LEADS to something that results in justification, and that is the imputation of Christ's righteousness.

Dave Bartosiewicz asks what laws do you need to follow. Jesus said; Matthew 19:16,17.

The Word of Wisdom in Section 89 of the Doctrine and Covenants in 1833 was “sent greeting, not by commandment or constraint”. The prohibition on alcohol, tobacco, tea and coffee was given in later revelation.

Mr Bartosiewich was VERY disrespectul and irritating in this video. He kept interrupting Dave all the time.

Talk about insanity, Mormons are not even part of Christianity, but a demonic white mans cult. Ethiopian Orthodox Christian.

Hi Dave I talked to you a few years back I'm that person that had the near-death experience as a person that has been a Mormon my whole life, what you're saying today was never taught in any service or class that I was in. Anyone who has read the Bible has read how God feels about churches. The church has enough negative stuff about it on its own without people making up stuff. The foundation the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the 13 Arts of faith. The first article of faith is = We believe in God our Eternal Father and in his son Jesus Christ and in the Holy Ghost. This is something I know from my own experience having had a near-death experience. There are so many things that I wish I could say. . . May you walk with God ( not literally ), through his beloved Son Jesus Christ with the empowerment of the Holy Spirit.

Ezekiel 37 isn’t what proves the Book of Mormon to be the word of God but the admonition in Moroni 10: 4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost. 5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things. No wonder Dave and his wife never got the same spiritual witness from the Holy Ghost that millions have.

Christ wasn’t lying but that doesn’t make Dave Bartosiewisc right. He is a determined anti Latter Day Saint advocate, probably because they have teachings that convert people to the true Gospel of Jesus Christ that he doesn’t have a hope of ever doing.

When Jesus said “Upon this rock I will build my Church” (Matthew 16:15-18) was he talking about the rock of Peter or the rock of revelation from God to people that Jesus was the Son of the Living God. Either way the gates of hell haven’t prevailed against the church even if there was a falling away as the church was restored. Acts 3:19-21, 2 Thessalonians 2: 1-3, Revelation 14:6.

The Bible talks of a falling away in line with the Latter Day Saint teaching of a great apostasy; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3.

I would love to get this guy in a debate. His stories are all over the place. Mariology is shoot-from-the-hip religion.

Let me get this straight: James, the brother of Jesus is His brother but he's not enough of a brother to have responsibility for his mother Mary? If James and his brothers and sisters were children of Joseph's other wives then they would still have had the responsibility for Mary under the Law. Jesus gave Mary to John and he took her into his home. John lived in Galilee. That's where he, his brother James and his father, Zebedee were fishermen. So there was no immediate need to drag Mary to Ephesus. John eventually wound up there but we don't know if Mary was still alive when that happened. There's nothing about this guy's fake doctrine that holds any scriptural water and indeed it contradicts scripture. Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mary and Joseph were their parents. That's all the bible tells us and that's all we need to know. It serves no purpose to spin some extra-biblical mythology other than to divide. Mariology is a wedge issue, pure and simple. That's all it ever was and that's all it will ever be. The Empire has no interest in unity. She is committed to division.

"Sit on my right hand UNTIL I make thine enemies thy footstool." Paul addressed this "until" business. 1 Cor. 15:24-28 - Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. *_<- The key "until" ref._* 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. The "until" does have an expiration date. I understand the logic but you're choosing a very poor example to prove your point. Sometimes "until" means "until".

Find me an apostle or Gospel writer of the New Testament who knew anything about this doctrine of perpetual virginity. You can't do it because it's not there. The Empire's religion teaches this as a "wedge issue" a difference for difference's sake. This doctrine doesn't serve any purpose other than to divide over a non-biblical issue. Think about it. Is Jesus any more the Savior if this myth were true? No, of course not. What theological purpose does it serve? It sells more rosaries and religious trinkets. It promotes tourism to far-flung and otherwise depressed areas. It's good for business but it doesn't make Jesus any more the King. In fact, it detracts from His importance, focus, and Kingship. It distracts from Jesus as the Mediator between God and man and slips another character between them. It detracts and distracts. It's a wedge issue used by the Empire's religion to divide. "Mark them which cause division" (Rom. 16:17). Let me make a prediction as a matter of prophecy or just simple observation: Mariology is the hill that the Roman religion shall die on. She cannot walk this thing back. She's invested far too much. This issue will bring her down, ultimately. But Christians need to keep the pressure on.

Glory to Christ from Ehtiopia ☦

Helen is my direct ancestor. It's so surreal to hear her story.

GREAT VIDEO. lots of facts.

Let's imagine you had a time machine and went back in time to the East-Roman area (around Jerusalem, Constantinople, and Athens) from today, first to the 1500s and then back before the Reformation, year by year. At which year would you join "the Main Church" of that particular town or county, instead of establishing a "True Biblical Christianity" church on your own, and realize: "Whew, this is when that darn Eastern Orthodox church got established. From now on, I don't need to establish my Evangelical ministries anymore with the intention of independently spreading the gospel and warning about the dangers of the Orthodoxy cult, but can join the very same Church that the folk of the New Testament also belonged to!" I tried to answer such a thought experiment, but after reading Church history and the Apostolic Fathers of the first centuries, I soon realized there never was such a year or period, and I had every reason to join that same Church back in 2012. As a former evangelical Protestant, I can say this journey has only deepened my love and relationship with the Lord, Jesus Christ. And yes, I do still consider myself evangelical. 😊

Some Mormons I'm talking to, deny that Lucifer is their brother. But they will say that they are both spirit children of a human God the father. But still deny that they're brothers.

They’re straight up calling themselves a denomination of Christianity now… the victims of the Mormon doctrine are blind

Baptism for the dead is actually referred to once in the New Testament, but there is no record of how or why this was practiced in the early church, do that's why it isn't currently done.

Funny the hypocrisy of those who criticize LDS history whose faith derived from the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (polygamist). That would be Jew, Muslim and Christian. If you’re an atheist, what’s it to ya if we are just an animalic creation?

Doesn’t true repentance require WORK? 🤔 Hard to cleanse someone who desires to return or stay in the mud or simply not willing to do their part to walk out of the “puddle.” Sure it might take time to overcome some choices/addictions but ultimately we must decide to truly forsake that which impedes us from staying in the Lord’s presence.

Mormons preach a false gospel and promote the cause of Satan believe it or not! Here's a sample of my street preaching from Hollywood, CA. We need to hit the streets because the churches are preaching to the choir and fail to evangelize the lost for the most part. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hM2GlNGJr7fViIE.html

I don’t understand why it is so important that we prove that there is no pre-existence. It sounds like a beautiful doctrine. If it is true, it is magnificent and awesome. If it isn’t true, then that’s kind of depressing. I hope the Mormons are right.

Thank you for this, Mormonism needs to be exposed.

The Restoration is the only belief system that is biblical. All of the Protestant churches along with Catholicism have to alter or deny biblical passages to get them to agree with their Greek philosophic-theism. Which is man made. The Restoration isn't man made. It's Restored by God Himself.

Genesis has to do with the creation of this earth not the universe. In fact, the very term universe is a modern scientific term. No where in the Bible will anyone find the term universe.

Mormons follow other doctrines that lead to another god (who was a man who earned his godhood), another Jesus (satans spirit brother), and another spirit. It’s not Christianity. The Bible is clear, God is spirit and Jesus is God incarnate (John 1:1). God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one God revealed in three personages.

In LDS thought, an exalted physical body is not what makes God God. All members of the Godhead are God, with or without a body. Jesus Christ was God before he was born of Mary, and the Holy Spirit (no physical body) is also God. Blake Ostler's "Exploring Mormon Thought" explores the questions in this video. Also, there's actually relatively little when it comes to what Latter-day Saints "have to" believe in order to join and remain in the Church (see the baptimal interview questions). I'm pretty sure a member could flat out reject almost everything brought up in this video and not be excommunicated.

This is not Anti Mormon. Why do you say that?

Youre still doing this Anti-Mormon stuff?

Church of Jesus Christ of J.C. of Latter-Day Saints? Really?

Where did Heavenly Father come from ? And what does Paul mean in Ephesians 4 with this: 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; ... for the perfecting of the saints ... till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ ...

Typical Anti-Mormon misinformation and deception. Now this isn't just some loose lipped criticism.. It's objectively true. Let consider. One tactic anti-Mormons use is to take a tenant of belief and frame it out of context. Usually in some pejorative way as to make the doctrine seem strange to those who don't know better.. That's the "Deception and misinformation' For instance If I told you that the Bible teaches "There is NO GOD".. and Christians believe in the Bible therefore they are Atheists. If you didn't know better you might actually believe that . However we know the truth is different. Yes, the Bible says "There is NO GOD".. however that snippet is out of context, and to frame it in a way that suggests Christians are atheists is misrepresenting and deceptive at best. This is what Dave does. Which begs the question.. Is Dave really a Christian? Christ taught to treat others the way you would want to be treated.. So does Dave want others to disparage his beliefs and frame them in an out of context deceptive way ? If not then why does he do that to LDS beliefs? Simply put his actions rather demonstrate he's NOT Christian.. most Anti-Mormons are not Followers of Christ, but followers and slaves of their own emotional Antipathy. Now for the truth.. Yes, LDS believe God the Father has a body of Flesh and bones. Jesus does also.. he proved this when he was resurrected and the promise is that we will all be like him. And Jesus taught if you see him you've seen the Father. Isn't that what Christians believe ? So the question is where did the Father get his body of flesh and bones? fair question.. and it's not something that is codified in scripture, therefore it's what we call 'Speculative Doctrine".. doctrine that is derived from speeches etc from past leaders.. And the answer typically is that in some eternal time or realm long before the beginning of present eternal time or realm.. Our Father in Heaven went through all the same things we are going through here. Where or exactly when this happened we do not know, anymore than you're Evangelical Christian can tell you how to reconcile the Trinity paradox. And is it even relevant to our salvation ? NO But once again , this is speculative doctrine. It speculation as to "Where did God Come from".. Every religion has to wrestle with that and in doing so Dave here appeals to Genesis.. and proceeds to read INTO Genesis his own IMAGINED Beliefs instead of what the text ACTUALLY Says. This is called an Eisegesis. Dave in effect is making himself into God and projecting meaning into the Biblical text that isn't actually there. But we can forgive him for he knows not what he does. For starters.. Genesis 1 doesn't say God created everything from Nothing.. This becomes self evident if you read a Bible translation that more accurately translates the Hebrew. The text most Scholars turn to is the NRSV.. New Revised Standard Version. There is even a NRSVUE which refers to the updated Version. It's was produced by a consortium of various scholars and translators of a wide range of faiths. Unlike other translations such as the NIV which has an OVERT Evangelical Bias and often translates text in ways the conform to Evangelical dogma rather than what the Hebrew actually intended. Gen 1:1-3 is one of those examples. *When* God began to create the heavens and the earth, the *earth was complete chaos*, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of *the waters*. *Then* God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. Gen 1:1-3 NRSVUE Hebrew scholars will tell you this more accurately reflect what the text says.. Notice the sentence structure and the prepositions that are missing in other English translations. Verses 1 and 2 are not separate sentences as in other translations.. they are ONE complete thought using a couple of prepositional clauses. It starts with a "WHEN".. and describes the conditions that exist.. "Earth was complete Chaos".. "Darkness covered the face of the deep." And of course the "waters were already there".. Only "THEN" does God say let there be light. Notice this isn't describing a scenario of Ex-Nihlo (out of nothing).. That idea wasn't in the minds of the Bible writers at all.. It wouldn't become a thing until centuries after Jesus. So you can see here that God wasn't floating around in some NOTHINGNESS before the creation in Gen 1.. Dave needs to rethink his criticism but not likely as most Anti-Mormons are slaves to their antipathy and thus the spirit of Truth doesn't actually abide within them.. Now with regards to the Trinity, Does Dave even know where that doctrine comes from ? It's NOT from the Bible.. I doubt Dave has ever take the time to study it out. He just holds to his antipathy. and associating himself with Trinitarians is convenient. For those who seek the truth.. Take a deep dive and study it out. The Trinity wasn't something that Jesus or the Apostles ever taught.. It wouldn't emerge until the 4th century.. In the first centuries of Christianity it wasn't even a thought. What happens in history is that about the end of the 3rd century , the teachings of a Greek philosopher named Plotinus was becoming popular in the Roman Empire. This teaching is known as Neo-Platonism. A fundamental tenet of Platonis teaching was the doctrine of "The One".. and universal being from which all thing emanate. Alexandria Egypt was the center of philosophical thought and teaching. In the early 4th century the Bishop of Alexandria Athanasius had a dispute with a Deacon name Arius over the nature of the Father and Son, which in turn resulted in the council in Nicaea 325. Where the majority of bishops of the time sided with the Bishop of Alexandria in the adoption of a otherwise "Gnostic" term _Homoousios_ which means same substance in Greek philosophical terms. This adoption of applying this philosophical idea to the Father and son played in to the overall effort to conflate Neo-Platonism with Christianity. Later the Holy Spirit would be incorporated into the formula which in the late 4th century would be codified in the Athanasian Creed.. The Trinity dogma is logically incoherent , thus it was understandably a tough sell for some. So in 380 the Emperor Theodosius would issue and edict declaring anyone who didn't accept this would be deemed heretics , to be punished. Executions in the Name of Jesus would begin shortly thereafter. So Dave here is demonstrating more that in his own antipathy he's continuing to be an disciple of the Emperor and his orthodoxy rather than being a disciple of Christ.

I’ve been a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints my whole life and have never once heard that God, our Father, was birthed by a mother. Yes, I’ve heard of the virgin birth of our Savior, Jesus Christ, and I do know that however crazy and impossible some have said that was, I know it did happen. So, although I’d never thought of it before, if God truly does have a mother, there are those that would say it was crazy and impossible, too. If God’s ways aren’t our ways (as it says in the scriptures) then perhaps we don’t know everything yet. I’ve done a fair share of thinking about God and who He is. Why He does what He does. How I can better align my will with His, etc. I truly hope that one day I’ll be able to be in His presence and be with Him. We know Adam was created in His image, and, therefore, if Adam (there’s another crazy and impossible birth story) looked anything like we do, then we have an idea of what God looks like. I have an idea of what I’ll see before me if I am worthy to be in His presence again. And, yes, while I’ve never once heard of, nor have been taught about, God’s mother, I do know that in this universe in which we all live, there are things we laugh at now, but simply don’t comprehend yet. One day…

Jesus said Whosoever sees me sees the father.. Jesus Christ has a body like your.. In the bible say ye are Gods.. So if you have a son he have all the power to become exactly like you if he chooses too.. In the holy writ said we’re all sons and daughters of god If you have a son now You want him to be even better than you are the same as our Father in heaven And if we choose to follow him by keeping all his commandments the reward is to be able to live with his presence in heaven and if we’re there I’m sure he will put us into good use like what he does when he sends us to earth to grows and develop like he is doing..

Good video Dave

I just wanted to thank you dave. because seeing your videos helped me especially your videos about Eastern Orthadoxy i am now Orthadox and your videos were part of my journey coming to the faith

Fool, you need to see videos by a REAL historian like Brian.Hales, if youbwould have lustened ti him then maybe you wouldnt have turned into sn evil ignorant spostate fool!!!