I just remembered something that could help expand understanding of the situation to the Chinese. Recently WotC retconned their Orcs to be lightskinned Mexicans. All the other races (like Elf's and Dwarves) are now multi-racial (like in Rings of Power) but all their Orcs were drawn in light gray color. Rather than arguing why that change was okay and other similar ones weren't, the people defending the change keeps claiming that they aren't inspired in Mexicans, and that if you see those Orcs and think they are Mexicans then you are a racist.

yas early is so so weak holy crap.. plus seeing those mega minions on lvl 1 made shit bricks.. i can never get past the first rhino :(

I just hope that hoyo wont pour more oil into the fire next time. Back when sumeru came out people already complained. Dehya was one of the most awaited chara back then but hoyo gavw her horrible kit. So understandably more people consider this as an offense. Dehya shitty kit was dissappinted generally, not just the pro representation players. I think they did a good job on sethos. He is generally good as a 4 star, and I hope hoyo wont mess with natlan's darker charas like they did to dehya

我是CN玩家，其实中国社区一直都没有那么不在乎肤色问题。因为在中国甚至亚洲地区，大部分人都没有肤色上的"zzzq"（政治正确，politically correct）。例如在Sumeru，比起肤色我们更乐于见到须弥地区的风景、音乐和美食等，我觉得肤色是天生就决定好的，但文化需要经过无数人的努力才传承下来。 当纳塔pv出来后，中国社区爆发了一波不满，但这跟肤色没关系，这次不满的主要原因是，纳塔不像我们想象中的那么“灰烬”“残忍”“战争”，更像是儿童版的Pokémon，所以很多人都在嘲笑原神变成了6+游戏（年龄6岁以上就可以玩）。 Liyue和Inazuma也没有明确意义上的黄种人，那当时这些政治正确群体有出来抗议吗？日本手游F*O甚至把亚瑟王改成了女性，这些人怎么又装作没看到。 我们尊重你们拥有你们的政治正确，但是我们不希望你们把你们的政治正确强加在我们身上，所以这次中国社区才会如此反感。今天你们指控认为原神中必须要有黑色人种，那明天动物保护协会来抗议，那游戏中也不能杀动物，如果是一名法律中性别有97种的美国人来指控原神性别歧视呢？ I am a CN player, and in fact, the Chinese community has never been so indifferent to skin color issues. Because in China and even in Asia, most people do not have the "zzzq" (politically correct, politically correct）。 For example, in Sumeru, we prefer to see the scenery, music, and cuisine of the Sumeru region over skin color. I believe that skin color is predetermined by nature, but culture needs to be passed down through the efforts of countless people. When Natlan pv came out, a wave of discontent broke out in the Chinese community, but it had nothing to do with the color of the skin. The main reason for this discontent was that Natlan was not as "ashes", "cruel" and "war" as we imagined, but more like the children's version of Pokémon, many CN players were laughing at Genshin Impact as a 6+game (you can play it when you are over 6 years old). Liyue and Inazuma did not have a clear definition of the yellow people, so did these politically correct groups come out to protest at that time? Japanese mobile game F*O even changed King Arthur to a woman, why do these people pretend not to see it. We respect your political correctness, but we do not want you to impose your political correctness on us, which is why the Chinese community is so resentful this time. Today you accused that there must be a black people in Genshin. Tomorrow, the Animal Protection Association will protest and animals cannot be killed in the game. What if an American with 97 legal genders were to accuse Genshin of gender discrimination?

People like tectone just take things at face value and then tell his community to add fuel to it

You! A person never saw single black person you whole life, Design me some black characters! And does not matter the design is good or not!

I believe zzzq probably = 政(z)治(z)正(z)确(q), pinyin for "Political Correctness" From my understanding, thats what the so called Woke people are using + overly implimenting DEI which... imho... OVER implimented into all the workforce, games and movies which are causing them to kinda .... suck .... nowadays .... I think these translations are being used as an exagerated ammunition as their war against the other side basically. I dont deny Chinese are Racist though (Actually .... i think everyone is, to a certain extend) BUT..... these, 黑鬼 = Directly translated to "Black ghost" = used to describe anyone of darker skin 红毛鬼 = Red haired/furred ghost= (but used to describe the whites mostly) 马来鬼 = Malay ghost = Used to describe Malaysians/Mainly Malay ethnicity 吉林鬼 = Keling Ghost = Used to describe Indians (You can search Wiki for it, each south east Asian country used has a different origin of it, not just the chinese there) 日本鬼 = Japan ghost (Very obvious what it was for lol) 肥鬼 = Fat ghost (Basically when they describe fat people) ETC ETC Basically, people were described by how their distinctive trait/what they looked like, sound like, or where we think they're from for convenience purposes, or you can say we just describe people from what they look like + add a "ghost" at the back because they are foreign/stranger to us or because we're racist, yes fine~ everyone's racist. (Thats my guess at least, basically like the Japanese's Gaijin(Outsider/foreigner), or the English calling the Americans "Yankees" , or some people calling the french "Frogs" (because of the word "Quoi" that sounds like ... what a frog would ...say?.. i guess) etc etc..... Some replies are probably bad because i think the Chinese community are probably familiar with whats happening in the west(or some of the westerners.... the woke ones?) .... and what they are trying to do to their(The Asian's) games and enjoyments ... ruin it ... and they're mad about it now trying to affect genshin too. Personally, i think each art styles or designs/worlds has their appeal to them. Trying to change the whole world's to appeal to one is ... i think ... insane ... Manga has their appeal, Anime has their appeal. Old Marvel/DC superheroes has their appeal ... I think its still best to have different variety of games and movies around and just let people vote with their wallets instead of trying to force change everything.... Its already kinda proven anyway ... too much DEI actually ruined alot of stuffs ... anyway... sorry for long comment, here "POTATO" 🥔 (Yes im doing 9 gag stuff here..)

Insane

See you in 1.2

Why so good at game

1:48 they took the original tone of the comment and dialed it up to 11, when it was actually more like a moderate 5. it was still negative, but not nearly as negative as the translation would have you believe 4:31 i don't think english really has a good translation for this. like you have "black" which is normal, and the only derogatory words for black people are "negro" and the slur. the translator might not have known of the term "negro" so they went for the slur 4:53 "gui"/"鬼" means "ghoul"/"ghost" i'm pretty sure... so the more accurate translation would be "black ghouls"... 11:27 that is hilarious. i'd brought up this exact point in a discussion with some people on twitter; for better or for worse, mihoyo barely changes things in genshin regardless of what their players say 15:20 chatter straight up going "hollup, let him cook" and tbh i agree. some characters do look better with darker skin 16:24 tbh most dark skinned people are various shades of brown. i feel like very few people are actually like, charcoal black

As a Mayan/Caribbean, i don't care if the characters are black or not i care it they're worth my time... Plus of Hoyoverse ever added Caribbean inspiration to Natlan atleast 50% of the Caribbean won't care if they're white or not but more it they added Caribbean base alcohol and music (any Caribbean who see this correct me if I'm wrong)

thats sad

why so lucky? :]

wow

First comment club Sheeeee

This should be viral for this video explanation.

Chinese here, zzzq is 政治正确 (political correctness), I hardly understand the short forms but there are some that I can still understand

People need to stop being so effing sensitive and let art be art. Not everything revolves around their pet peeves 🙄

12:55 What I don't understand is, why not just appeal to both communities separately ? There has been that one CPP order to have Mondstadt female characters redesigned to cover more of their skin and while it was obligated in CN servers, it was a free asset for every one else. If SEA wants darker give em darker. And if the banner don't sell at least as well as first Raiden Shogun banner. Never listen to international community because they'll have be proven hypocrites. Doing it that way would ponder to the complaints to some degree...while some other would go the other way saying grrr grrr wdym dark skin is a toggle, that's disgusting...man shut up at least YOU got what you wanted. Don't force you narrative on everybody else. If they can fully redesign, they can darken skin tones in game that's for sure. That's my point.

I started to think those who started the boycot polls doesn't even play Genshin Impact. those are people who a haters from the start, they just never give up to boycot this game huh.., I think my best suggestion is just enjoy the game and never listen these useless drama. I do have black skin and I don't get insult, Its fictional games anyways.

ITS NOT AFRICA OR SOUTH AMERICA IRS AUSTRALIA YOU DUMMIES!

I`m a chinese，others’ translations are inaccurate, so you’d better learn to translate yourself and make your own judgments. So I will use Chinese next and you can translate it yourself. 博主想为中国社区辩解，但是我觉得完全没必要，他们的言论我并不觉得有什么不妥，为什么呢？接着往下看！我只想说大部分中国人审美以东亚人为主。但不代表我们针对黑色皮肤，只是作为浅色人种的我们在角色塑造时我们喜欢的皮肤可能和白色皮肤混淆，所以感官上会觉得我们种族歧视深色皮肤。我们并不歧视肤色，只歧视没有素质的人，知道我想表达的意思吗？最近到中国旅游的视频很多对吧？什么人种什么肤色的都有，中国人民对待他们的方式你们应该也能看到，如果没观看此类视频你们可以在youtube随便搜索。但是我们种族歧视话语确实也有，为什么呢？看看西方媒体包括黑神话以及原神的这两次风波，新疆事件等等，他们有公平对待过我们吗？做着损害我们利益的事情对我们指手画脚还企图我们不反击？如果你质疑那我问你别人诬陷你骂你的时候你不生气吗？你不会骂回去吗？这些都是没有素质的人！那攻击他们最好的方式是什么？当然就是种族言论咯。我们也会在网络上骂白人和黑人，白人是因为一直针对中国，黑人则是在广东破坏治安的几十万黑人让我们痛恨！但是，我们并不会针对所有人，礼貌尊重我们的人无论什么肤色我们都会友好对待。我们不在乎外网如何评价，就如你们看到的bilibili截图（当然，这也是故意截图和翻译，更多的评论只是不满这次的节奏）为什么呢？首先西方给我们扣的帽子太多了，无所谓，我们没有亏欠黑人，别用美国政治正确那一套来恶心我们，我们要的是好的作品而不是肤色，我们做游戏不会考虑这么多，中国公司做中国游戏要复合中国审美有什么问题吗？我在之前也陈述了，游戏里很多是白人仅仅是因为我们也是浅色人种而已~~~其次拉丁美洲啥时候是黑色人种了？带节奏动动脑子好吗?真的西方的教育水平让我感到尴尬，一个高中生的各方面知识估计不如中国的小学生！ 最后，中国互联网的攻击性是你们体会不到的，这也归功于美国势力在其中不断挑唆，说句不好听的，我们自己互相对骂的远比这些恶毒多了··所以你们认为恶毒的词只是小孩子水平而已，既然你们觉得我们种族歧视那我们也可以成为种族歧视者（只针对针对我们的人）···黑色美人鱼我能理解，黑色的朱丽叶我差点笑的窒息，还有，黑人也有很漂亮的女孩子，请他们演行吗？当然我肯定不会去看的。最好有一天我能看到你们拍摄这么一个电影：一群黑色皮肤的人用枪指着一群在棉花地里采棉花的白色皮肤的人，真是太有趣了哈哈哈····· 一个游戏而已，非要上升到种族歧视的程度，最可笑的是很多人说肤色不符合设定，可是还有多少真正美洲原住民能站出来说一说自己是什么肤色呢？一群真正的种族主义者在迫害了无数人后伪装成圣人批评别人是种族主义者，拉丁美洲的人没急，你美国人急啥？自己国内乱成啥样了还有闲心管别人的事是吧?真是够讽刺也够悲哀的，当然对于我们来说都是笑话，因为对我们毫无影响···

Okay they were a bit less racist

I disagree with you, those translations are not perfect but they are the general idea, and I find it completely normal. When an agenda is forced on artists and developers it severely shrinks the quality of the product. By the way, it is also very understandable due to the population of China being much more homogenous than that of the USA. These activist are the ones being racist, forcing inclusion and multiculturality in societies and countries and cultures that are not and have never been that way, that is so disrespectful.

This is really simple. It's just fiction and loose inspiration right? Cool then change the borrowed god names if you don't intend to make that character of their own people. I agree with the notion that it really doesn't matter much. It's a Chinese game catering to Chinese players who very obviously don't like dark skin. To complain about it is ultimately barking up the wrong tree. However let's not act like a similar vocal minority of Chinese gamers wouldn't be throwing a fit if Ubisoft made a game with "Chinese inspiration" and made a character named Yu Huang Shang-Ti a black dude 😂 This is a simple fix. Rename the few characters that use the names of afro/latino dieties and most of this drama would be basically destroyed. Not that it matters much to begin with.

zzzq means 政治正确 which translates to political correctness

The Translating... Nasty 💀💀 the use the N word is so uncalled for and random THERE WAS NO NEED FOR THE N WORD!!! Nasty

I’m seeing people single the situation out and make it seem as though black people just want to be included in something. No, there are all kinds of people with skin-tones that are actually tanned (not talking about genshins interpretation of tan) and darker who think the characters inspired by these people should be a bit darker. I’ve seen people like Mr. Poke trying to make this into a black thing, when everyone is upset because there’s no actual diversity whatsoever. It’s South American inspired, and yet everyone is pretty pale. What makes it worse is that they used the names of gods who are black, brown skinned, and tanned for their very white characters. There are videos coming out of white NPCs from Natlan dancing around with braids in their hair and it’s just funny to me. If they knew they couldn’t handle it, they should’ve based Natlan off anything or anywhere BUT places as diverse and interesting as South America . The Cultures themselves are beautiful, but it truly is the people that make them what they are. Of genshin actually added tanned, brown skinned, or dark skinned people, EVERYONE would eat it up. I’m not gonna get too mad about it, because I know there are voice actors and other people with high followings speaking up, nearly everyone knows it’s a distasteful look, so I can rest easy.

Olorun seems to be the name of a Yoruba god, this seems to be where the claims that Natlan is representing Africa comes from. But the current name of the character is Ororon, which seems to be a Maori word. And the character seems to have tattoos and an outfit somewhat like those used by the Maori. Natlan is mainly inspired by the Aztecs, the suffix Tlan means land (like Aztlan and Mictlan).

White savior complex people whining as usual, they think everyone below the equator must be black, they are so annoying asking for "muh melanins"

Just leave :]

Nah, the only big L is some of the En voice actors bruh. they finna get fired. I don't mind tan skin. I mean, we got Dehya, Candace, and Cyno the most tannest people in the game, but no one would be surprised because at the end of the day, Characters are just characters bruh.

First of all thank you for your translations. I think there's a lot of hypocrisy from some people and chinese about this issue. Let's do a reverse. Let's say there is a western game that takes heavy inspiration from chinese culture and most of the characters are black or white and the westerners would just say that yellow skin and small eyes are pleasant to the eyes so we decided to have a darker skin tones and biggers eyes. Wouldn't chinese feel offended, call for a boycott and say the people who made the game or defending the game are racist. They would because in the past some movie from hollywood did that and asians didn't like that at all.

Thank your clarifying the comments but their still not good... I care not if they fix it because I play with mods. I knew China has their standards but I highly doubt in a world were any country had the power and resources to make their own games would they disrespect another country by taking their gods and making them the same shade as them and blame it on *"it's just fantasy"*

I do understand that chinese like more pale skin and that the chinese market is their core audience, but on the international side are also potential customers. If I were mihoyo/hoyoverse I would just play both sides, have an international version that is more diverse, changing the skintone shouldn't be that hard to do and can be part of the localization process.

Man how black do they want their characters to be? The designs are epic and original, save for the skin tone. I just play for lore, gameplay, music and coolness. Unless I am not in those guys shoes so I will never feel enlightened with the society.

even after you translated it correctly its still a racist comment maybe the language doesn't translate well to English or something but with what ive head its still racist

Capitano: are you all BLIND? look at my face. I AM BLACK. rgb (0,0,0) #000000. me alone SOLO can represent all black in genshin. want to see my black sword? bigger than Mandingo. HAHAHHAHA.

Thank you for an attempt to show reality more clearly. I am always interested in what CN community thinks. Not only because they influence hoyo decisions a lot but also because it's a huge country with rich culture. The thing i want to add to other comments is probably: chinese people should be strong and proud fairly but they can also try to learn more about the world around them and be more kind and understanding of others. I know it is very hard to do seeing how twitter freaks attack them unjustly. But that's the best we all can do - to try be more humane.

When games are used for political agendas that's where the true essence of video game died What a sick world we live in today

So basically "Were not racist. Dark skin is just ugly and unpleasant to look at"

Was 黑鬼 not a term used for black slaves in China? Genuinely asking here. The author Pu Songling (蒲松齡) wrote a story with this name in the 18th century about the Qing dynasty slave trade. The root of the N word in English obviously means "black" (the colour and later the race) but it became corrupted and twisted into having negative connotations due to the bad intentions of people who use it. In this case however, the second character 鬼 already conveys bad intentions from the start. No ifs, ands or buts. There is nothing neutral about likening another race to ghosts or devils. It is the same as calling a black person a "spook" If a term is used to insult a race it is by definition a racial slur. I genuinely don't mean this as a slight on you personally (I recognise you are probably ethnic from the Msian diaspora as well, not a mainlander), but the fact that this word sounds tame to you is very telling of how normalised this racism is in the society. I'm not Chinese nor black (you are free to think I'm trying to "police" you but I am just stating my thoughts, I may be misinformed on certain subjects) but I also acknowledge that my own people have racist language towards these groups and others (even towards our own citizens and indigenous people), which was in part brought about by years of subjugation to foreign powers (both in the colonial and modern sense), being ravaged by ethnic conflicts, and just an overall lack of awareness of certain races outside our country. In the English streamer community there was a recent controversy surrounding Frogan's use of the slur for white people, "cracker". To some people, especially non-whites, it's inoffensive and used jokingly (like the modern connotations of "ang mo"). To white people, it is equal to the N word because it evokes the image of white slave owners Your words carry weight. Please don't justify it...

To me, it's just a matter of character diversity. I get incredibly bored by seeing the same 3 body types used over and over in Genshin. Darker skin/more tan would've been a nice way to add more unique characters, and be more representative at the same time. But sadly, the CN community is too racist to accept that. The translations might not be as aggressive, but it still shows that Chinese players would prefer to have another 1000 milktoast characters before accepting to have one character with color. It's honestly just sad.

I don't mind whether or not if we have dark-skinned characters in Genshin. As long as they're well-designed and their story is well-written, I'm all for it. However, this "boycott" and these demands are certainly not making me more partial to the idea of dark-skinned characters. In fact, it's having the opposite effect on me. The more these tourists scream and cry about their demands, the more determined I am to keep playing the game and the more I sincerely hope Dawei HYV don't bend the knee. If you give them an inch, they will take a mile. Do not bend that knee, Dawei! Stay strong!

Here's the thing just search for games that are banned in CN just because it hurt their feelings or misrepresented CN culture,gov't or military and you'd find several games. So yes CN also gets mad at such things, JP is on riot because of AC Shadows being not culturally correct and clearly misrepresents their culture and history. I'm not really into the "skin color" issue but if CN cried and even banned games that depicted CN culture in a bad or incorrect way, I don't see any problem for other Nation/Country/Culture to react when they get misrepresented by CN. Sorry I'm not saying all CN players are the same but most are hypocrites with massive double standards, crying and banning things when they get offended but laugh and disregard others when they are the ones saying and doing offensive stuff to others.