Ultimecia’s GF is called Griever. If this isn’t proof that she is Rinoa I don’t know what is. Maybe she turned Squall into Griever so she could have her junctioned to her forever.

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I've always really enjoyed this theory. My personal head-canon regarding the theory has to do with this quote from Squall: "Rinoa...... Even if you end up as the world's enemy, I'll... I'll be your knight." I imagine a timeline in which the world never accepts Rinoa because of the many atrocities committed by the other sorceresses. They want her contained like Adele, and Squall after years of fighting, eventually gives his life protecting her. She then (somehow) junctions his spirit to herself, and over centuries or possibly millenia, loses all of her memories because of it. Tragically and ironically, they're still technically together forever, but neither one is truly themself anymore. In this scenario, time compression is not only about ruling all of eternity, but also a desperate attempt to remember the love she knows she's lost.

Nikkawhaaaat?

I always named it ma dik

R=U always frustrates me because I feel like there are so many better fan theories that get over looked because of it. Instead of being junctioned to Rinoa what if it was hyne manipulating ultimecia the whole time. I feel like r=u ruins the whole point of the story. All of the points brought up have been debunked or are too shallow to stand on their own.

I have a lead from gold voltshot indebted kindness I’ll gladly trade you for that buried bloodline. After 64 clears I’ll do anything for it.

Amazing pull!!

First of all: it’s pronounced Ri-noa, not Rai-noa. Second: the dangling body is Ultimecia’s, I thought that’s clear. Otherwise I love the theory, just not most of your support of it

Middle finger!!

ive gotten all the guns i want from that dungeon except buried bloodline cuz i keep promising to myself my first full run of the dungeon is gonna be my solo flawless. it’s not happening anytime soon.

It was within like my first few Warlord runs in Season of the wish I got my first 2 Indebted's and one was Beacon/volt. 😅 haven't gotten another good one since and I've ran the dungeon quite a bit lol. Got Bloodline on the 9th run.

jokes on you, I've received 2 burried bloodlines before I got voltshot IK ( still dont have it )

Lucky bastard I got volt and enlightened

😂Me too! Had it drop this weekend! And then ran it for the catalyst and finally got a voltshot kindness!😂

I'm happy for you😊

Gg bro

Unfortunately, it's unable to be used.

My wife just pulled the raging bolt ex and it was my chase card from this set!!! I swear she has amazing luck cuz she pulled the giratina and gengar alt art

Haha you just fucking suck! How the hell can you “try too hard “ on the first pack opening? 🤔 🤔 🤔 And if you mean our actual genuine happiness for getting cards we both have wanted, that’s what real collectors feel when they pull what they want! I’m not a little new age kid that pulls just to sell. Sounds like you have some envious underlying feelings and I get it! There’s help out there for people like you 🙏🙏✌️

I still believe Artimissia (Ultimecia) IS Rinoa. It makes the former reason for time compression more logical... I believe Rinoa having Edea and Adel's powers made her immortal or slow to age compared to the others... Thus, when squall and their friends died from old age or other circumstances, Rinoa wud want to bring back time --- that is her original goal. But she becomes corrupted in trying to do the time loop. And as she gets corrupted, she forgets her actual reason but only have fragments of her memory, like SeeD, time, alone... et cetera. She was able to go back in time though but since she forgot her actual goal, she gave her power to Edea sensing she is important for her supposed-to-be goal... which is being with Squall and their friends. and, just for fun, i also think that Artimissia emphasing the 'K' in her speech is because of the name of s-Q-uall. Squall's name has a hard K sound.

funny enough, that's what the name of the clip is. He got a thing!! lol

bro been hunting that card for so long!! Nice pull !!

Grate luck there.

Nice card man

Yo!!!! He got a thing!! ❤❤❤

Yall try too hard

The sorceress doesn’t need no man that way, that is why she is so angry

Griver.. is the answer for you all the questions

I dont get it

And it only took $500

It's pronounced renoah not righnoa

It's cool but it's way too clearly Ulti visually, the hair is exactly her hair but not in horns. If you look closely she even has her tattoo's and makeup. I'm rolling with Rinoamecia til I'm dead tho.

DAE squall is dead?

The foil between the two is undeniable, they use the same sorceress weapon, their colors of her blouse dodgerblue and ultis suit is crimson , all the foreshadowing of freezing time

...if you change the name of squalls ring, when ultimecia summons the most powerful gf, the name of that gf will be what you changed squalls rings name to be...this proves that greiver is squalls ring...

Yo! That’s cool!

I’ve been shooting air for 15 fucking minutes. Whoever at Bungie thinks their some sort of autistic genius should just fucking stop already.

The bottom half and top half of the final form boss are clearly separate entities that are junctioned. If the top half is true Ultimecia (as the game actually states) - who the hell is the bottom half? Square's statement that R!=U is still true! And fits this theory 100%. Notice too that human-Ultimecia is shown to have horn-like hair, in the final battle they separate and the bottom half now has long straight, flowing hair (much like Rinoa's but grey and longer). The top half now has flesh-like horns. My guess is "Ultimecia" is the top half of Hyne, who has junctioned an older sorceress Rinoa (who has accumulated all of the sorceresses powers up to this point). The human Ultimecia we see is a fully integrated Rinoa+Ultimecia. The character designs of final Ultimecia, theoretical Ultimecia+Rinoa (the human form we see) and Rinoa clearly depicts this. Final Ultimecia has skeletal/black wings, Rinoa has white feathered wins. Ultimecia + Rinoa = black feathered wings. The apocalypse spell clue in Dissidia NT is a really key hint too. This fits with the Hyne lore as Hyne wants to destroy humans - Hyne gave humans existence - and now he wants to deny their existence (Ultimecia literally says "All existence denied", and the way Ultimecia talks about pesky SeeDs is similar to how Hyne is described to view humans, originally obedient but rebelled and became disobedient etc.)

Ultimecia Drew griever from squall's brain

The dangling body has Ultimecia's face, the face we see in her first stage of battle as well as on her head when she was junctioned to Griever. It means the dangling body is her original body, it host her sorcerer's power which is the source of her power. Using Scan on the dangling body revealed that this is the point from which her power generates. She can cast ultimate magic (Apocalypse) through power generated here. Using Scan on the large body reveal that it is her new body she created so she can absorb the power that she gain via Time Compression. The scan revealed that the dangling body is the source of her own power, not power of others that she absorbed such as via junction or time compression (the power from time compression would be on the large body), it further confirm that the dangling body is her original self. In short, the dangling body host her original power while the large body host the power she gain from time compression. The reason why the large body (new body) can cast other magic without drawing from her original body is because they are magic that had been previously performed in the world, so they can be reused from the time (past) that has been absorbed. Apocalypse has never been performed before so the large body cannot get it from the absorbed time, it has to draw it from the dangling body which is her true source of power. Note that the barren ground that transform into flower field is the setting when Rinoa rescue Squall after the final battle. It appear in Dissidia world because of memory. Squall was still unconsciuous when the transformation happened so it wasn't from his memory. The only other person during that moment was Rinoa, which means she is the owner of that memory. It prove that Rinoa is summoned to Dissidia world after her final battle against Ultimecia. As such, it is no brainer that Rinoa also know Apocalypse as she has seen Ultimecia using it. It is Rinoa who draw Apocalypse from Ultimecia (you can do it in the game) and make it as her own magic.

What if she is Selphie, drawing from rinoa. In the game it is hinted that she is a sorceress. She can even use magic like rinoa as a limit break, and even go as far as to use "The End", showing the field. Can't remember cuz she had a GF that she forgot, and we didn't get to know what it was. Fun 🤔🤗 Also Eden might be a good sorceress / GF. Each sorceress ends up transforming the longer they have the power. Look at the worm one 🪱.

I have played this game over 20 years I can assure everyone Rinoa absolutely is Ultimecia. The beginning cut scene shows Rinoa waiting in the fields for Squall and is clearly already a Sorceress. Alone the alone part is important as Edea tells Squall Ultimecia must miss love. She returns to the location the promise was made and awaites his destined arrival to fullfill the promise Squall made Rinoa on the Ragnarok. That promise was to stop her if she ever turned into an evil Sorceress. Griever's name serves as representation of this. Her grief for Squall is what gives life to Griever.

Take a closer look at the face of the dangling body. It's very clearly Ultimecia. My personal theory is that the final form is in fact Ultimecia junctioned to the god Hyne.

to cement this 'now i believed what Kitase said. Rinoa and Ultimcia are not the same person, just got realized it was ultimecia inside renoa's body. it's like it her but not and ultimacia just using rinoa's resources and skill... MAN ill been searching for answers and your theory should be on TOP!!!

Your guardian has a foot fetish. He gotta make sure you see those toesies 😂😂

Banshee needs to get his shit together!!! 😂😂

Happened to Me when ever I try to go to switch gear

Hell yeah! Keep up the content!

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