I don’t think I quite understand the question. Feel free to elaborate and I will get back to you.

Lol. No, there isn't really a system. When you tie the bow it'll wrap over the vertical loop that's on the tongue. As you can see in the thumb, I have the laces going under the loop. But I don't tie the bow under it. I guess you could, but it's probably not worth it.

Yes I think you are right.

I ran in the Saucony endorphin pro 4. They were solid the whole time! Very comfortable and I didn’t get any hot spots. I’m really glad I chose to wear those for my first marathon.

@@writeorrun why not cielo x1?

@dinterowski I like the responsiveness over the pro 4s. It’s more fun but I had to consider the distance and time on my feet. I think after about 3hrs I would have had a hard time since they aren’t as stable. It’s a good thing because the last 3 miles or so in San Diego are on the highway so the road is cambered. That section was brutal even with the pro 4s.

I know where you’re coming from. I’m actually a little injured now. I had a slight case of shin splints before the marathon. It didn’t bother me during the race but it did feel sore afterward. I went back to running this week and it feels worse so I’m taking it easy again. I think as long as you’re listening to your body you’re doing the right thing, regardless of the distance you run. Hope you keep recovering and running!

Thanks! I wouldn’t over think it. I always remember what the mother of my old roommate once said. More or less, some things you can’t go in with just one foot. You have to jump in with both feet. 👍

That's an interesting shoe you mentioned. I've never heard of that brand, but it looks pretty legit.

@@writeorrun They were in the shadows a while but with the 160x 3.0 pro they rocked the marathon scene, the regular 160x 3.0 is the training variant or race option for us slower runners. In the east asia running scene they are everywhere on the podium. The 5.0 pro sadly is hyper aggressive and nothing for people slower than 3h (they wanted too much at once it seems...) To say it short: I have over 40pairs of running shoes, study in this field and work in it aswell - I got 5 pairs of 160x 3.0 as my workhorses, its light, kinda stable, soft and plush without being mushy and you dont notice it on your feet at all. Enough advertisment...! Thank you for your videos <3

Thanks for all the background information. I’ll give you a shout out if I happen to see them in stores here. It would be interesting to check them out.

If you're consistently landing on the mid to forefoot, I think the Edge Paris has slightly more energy return. The Pro 4 does feel like it transitions better, however, for me.

Nice! See you there!

lol. I think it depends on how long you’ve been running and how much distance you’re used to covering. For me, once I’ve gotten a few marathons under my belt, I think I’d be comfortable training in these to run the 26.2 miles. But as of now I prefer something with a more stable platform to run that far. If I were a solid heel striker at any distance or speed, I personally wouldn’t use these for a marathon.

I tried the Edge and Sky. Liked the Sky better for me

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Interesting concept. Maybe running on sand?

That’s difficult for me to say. I’m a lot of places I read that neutral shoes work well because there isn’t extra support on the inner side do the foot. If I were you I’d try that or a stability shoe that really locks in the heel. But I think I’d try something out in the store first. I still wear out the outer edge of my shoes first, too. It depends on how excessive it is. I’m sorry I can’t be more help on that. I just noticed that the mild stability helped my knees feel better and my feet. The wear pattern didn’t change as much

I have not tried the 29s. From what I understand they redesigned the arch support in the 30s, which is the first version I tried. I didn’t realize I needed the support and to me, as I’ve heard many others say, it feels subtle, but effective. That’s why I feel like can use them regularly for recovery runs. In your case it may not be enough. But if you have the chance, maybe you can test them out first before you buy. The 31s are coming out soon but it looks like they didn’t change the midsole except for its outer appearance. Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful.

I had been wanting to try these for a while and they did not disappoint. Regarding the super shoes, I’ve been testing the endorphin pro 4s. I’m going to make a review soon but as of now I feel like they may be the ones I wear for my first marathon. The adios pro 3 is also really good but I got them last year so I wasn’t able to do any really long runs at that time. I think they may be releasing the adios pro 4 soon so you might want to wait for that release. Although it would mean you could get the 3s at a good discount. 👍👍

@@writeorrun thanks for your thoughts mate!! Yes, the speed 4 doesn’t disappoint at all, I’ve been enjoying them! I think both adios pro 3 or endorphin pro 4 would be good options, with different setups but I think are similar in many ways. I’ll let you know which one I go for!

Haha. It’s not as bad as I originally thought

It’s definitely going to be my go to daily trainer

@@writeorrun And for your recovery and long runs?

@@snowwalker9999 These days I’ve been using a carbon plated shoe for my long runs so that I can get accustomed to it for my upcoming marathon. I’m actually looking at the triumph 22 for long runs once the marathon is over and if it’s good, I’ll probably use it for recovery as well. But I also liked using the ASICS kayano for recovery as well, if my knees or feet are feeling extra sore.

@@writeorrun I can understand. Looking forward to your Triumph 22 video. So far all the reviews have been conflicting. Some say it’s too firm some say it’s very soft. I want to sell my Fresh Foam V4. I feel it’s overkill. I’ve been considering 1080V13, Triumph 22 or Gel Nimbus 26. Can’t decide. Maybe you could do a comparison video on them

That’s a difficult choice. I wanted to try the glycerin 21 because it’s got the nitrogen infused foam. But I haven’t had the chance. The ghost max is very good. I’ve been waiting for a easy/long run shoe that I can wear for over two hours. I have my eyes on the new triumph 22 because it’s got the powerrun pb foam. If it’s as good as I’m hoping, I think it’ll be my choice over the two shoes that are causing you pain. lol. Don’t sweat it though. Whatever you choose will be right for you.

@@writeorrun Thanks for the reply mate....I always use Max cushioned shoes, I have Nike Invincible 3, NB More V4, Nimbus 25, these are all max cushioned shoes....so does GhostMax is equal to the ones mentioned here ? in terms of cushion, bouncy etc

It made sense to me at the time. lol

I mean, it could be true. lol

lol glad you’re enjoying it!

You do have to be a bit more careful because it is very light. But yes it looks good!

What are you even talking about? Are you running in worker boots with steel soles? Who needs a waterproof shoe? Or one that can survive a nail? Is the comment supposed to be a joke?

@@MrSeedi76 No clue, this is called typing 😁 If you knew how to read, you'd understand 😆

lol

Yeah, I know. It is what it is. On long runs I get a hotspot under the ball of my left pinky toe. I've been taking these on shorter easy runs and recovery runs instead.

The deviate nitro has more room in the toe box. The velocity nitro feels like a narrow shoe from the heel through to the toe. It’s not uncomfortable but it does feel more snug.

lol

It will be the part of your foot that hits the ground first. Sometimes you can tell based on the wear pattern of your sole. I tend to be a heel striker so I notice that the rubber on the heel of the shoe looks more worn out compared to the rest of the sole. If you’re a mid or forefoot striker I think the pattern will look even across the entire bottom. If you’re still not certain you can get a gait analysis at a shoe store and they’ll tell you exactly what kind of runner you are. Anyone else have any tips to figure it out, please don’t hesitate to respond. I hope this helps!

@@writeorrun Yes it did help.Thank you so much for your detailed explanation.

Thank you! I had a minor setback with an injury, but I'm hoping I can get back onto my training schedule.

It's really a fantastic shoe for tempo and intervals. It's great that you're doing weight training, too. I recently understood the importance of strength and conditioning. I got a minor injury a couple weeks ago and I'm pretty sure it's because I haven't done any weights. I'm still not back to 100% of training schedule. But I'm definitely adding 1-2 days of s&c going forward. Keep up the good work!

@@writeorrun How did you get injured? Maybe you've pushed too hard? Sometimes it doesn't feel like you've pushed hard, the fatigue just accumulates without you feeling it and the body is good at adapting so you won't feel it. I had to stop recently as well, gladly no injury but it was like I'm injured coz I'm doing something crazy like bodybuilding and running feeling like 200% on 100% each but in actuality is just divided to 50/50. If I was smart about it, I would have known I was being a jack of all trades master of none, gains slower on both and I should have been patient about it but I did push harder, I kept pushing hard and it was too quick for me and it was all sudden, running gait was off like I don't know how to run, I can't lift my normal weight even decreased reps and weight I would even be tired after a few sets. I was stupid to keep going even with the decrease in performance and on the last day I planned for a slow long run with a bad gait, my calf went off, my knee buckled so I fell. It was a month's rest after that. Now I'm sticking to taking it slow, like dialling back down the reps/weight, distance, pace while at 4-6 days a week for both with slight gradual increases per week or two weeks, sometimes rest a few days. It doesn't feel like I'm pushing hard but is better at improving slowly and gradually. There is a better approach if overall you're just focused on running with adding weight training to your overall training unlike mine and these hybrid athlete influencers. Most advice I found is you can do maintenance for lifts only and have running as a priority. Lifting is just supplementing your running and if managing time is hard on some days/weeks then you just cut or stop the lifts and not sacrifice running. Like doing 70/30 or 80/20. That way you won't slack on lifts, you can and have to max out on those but won't worry about it getting in the way since it's only minimum 2 days a week with only the important lifts to help your running.

Thanks for asking. I ended up with a lower back injury. I had bad one about 2 years ago and since then I would stretch for 15min the days I ran. But I had stopped doing that for about 3 weeks prior to getting my latest back injury. I also started upping my mileage because I'm getting ready to run a marathon and I think it was too much for my body. Thankfully, after about a week of doing nothing I'm back to running now. I'm still not exactly where I left off, but I'm not in a hurry because the last thing I want to do is get injured again before my marathon, which his in about 8 weeks. I think rest/sleep is crucial to not getting injured. My schedule is to run 5 days/wk, but it's still difficult getting enough sleep when you have kids. lol. Thanks for the advice. And don't forget to listen to your body when you feel like something is slightly off. That's definitely a sign to take it easy. I keep reminding myself that life is like a marathon. You have to play the long game.

@@writeorrun Glad you've recovered, probably was due to upping your mileage hope it won't come back and get worse. Same with my friend who does triathlons and also had a back injury. Because of him I stopped doing deadlifts, keeping squats and rdl's which are enough spinal load already especially with the impact forces on running. I'm following him adding some core work to keep it tight and protect my back as well. Anyway, goodluck on your upcoming marathon.

I haven’t had a chance to try the rebel v4. I have heard good things about it. Both have had good reviews but I’ve also heard some say that both foams die early. I haven’t experienced that yet with the Novablast and I’m around 100 miles. If you do try both, please feel free to share your thoughts. I’d be interested in hearing them. Good luck!

@@writeorrun brilliant thanks, will try them out. The novablast felt good so far.

Honestly, I don’t know. Support shoes always seem to focus on overpronating. I would look into shoes that use a guide rail system, the ones that use higher sidewalls along both the inner and outer edges of the heel. That would seem to help either scenario. I wish I had a better answer for you.

Actually, that’s a really tough question. Only because I’d vote for the deviate nitro 2 for every kind of running, except for walking. lol. I don’t know if I like feeling that plate as I walk. Maybe for short walks but I’m not sure. It did feel less noticeable compared to the first one I walked with them. But you can still feel it. I guess you could get used to that feeling eventually. Then you’d be ready at all times to make a quick getaway. lol

Nice! I’ve been using them as my go to daily trainer these days.

I think if you want the best time for short races, even for longer races, I’d have to choose the deviate nitro 2. It’s just a better shoe. The only drawback is the slightly higher price. But it’s been out for a while so you should be able to find them discounted somewhere so def keep an eye out if you’re interested.

Personally, I would decide based on the amount of time I spend on my daily run. If I were going on a fairly short, steady run like ~30min, I would choose either one. But if it were longer than that, I'd definitely choose the Deviate Nitro 2 because it has a thicker midsole. Overall, the Deviate 2 performs better, as well. Hope that helps!

@@writeorrun thanks for the info...its helps to me

Yes!

I’m glad you enjoyed the humor.

Interesting suggestion! I didn't know the Stance socks were associated with the MLB and NBA

I have tried the Nimbus 26. Despite their midsoles being made of the same foam, ff blast+ eco, they feel quite different. I get more response and propulsion from the Novablast 4. I mentioned in the video that I think it's due to the design of the undersole. The Nimbus feels like you're sinking in and there's noticeably less return in the energy. It just feels highly cushioned and protective, but more clunky than the Novablast. The Novablast also feels well-cushioned, though, which I think makes it more versatile. I hope that helps.

@@writeorrun Thanks so much!

I can’t help the dad humor. Lol