Excellent question. I haven't had to rite the kayak, but have had to do this on daysailers and sunfish in years past. So if needed I would approach the problem in a similar matter. In most cases the boat would be on it's side with the sail on the water, in this case you would use body weight to flip it back up. ( daysailers have an advantage that you can use the center board or dagger board for leverage). With the kayak I have my paddle on a leash and would wrap the leash over the hull use my feet on the paddle to leverage it up. If this doesn't work or the boat turned "turtle" (upside down with sail and mast under water} it may be harder. Either way it's important to not tire yourself out stay with the boat ( it floats } and await rescue. Hopefully we're wearing our PFD.

Thanks for the quick answer. I found myself upside down with the mask on in the water. I had two things going for me, number one. I was wearing a lifevest and number two, I had a friend in another kayak with me. We were able to rite it, but the sail came off in the water, which was actually a good thing because it was acting as a sea anchor. All in all it was a good exercise and getting back into the kayak and continuing on, All be it without the mast and sail. Thanks again for the reply.

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The Outback handles well in rough water either when peddle powered or with trolling motor. With trolling motor setting motor straight ahead and steering with rudder would be preferred technique in rougher conditions. Placing the battery box in rear tank well balances better than placing battery or batteries in front hatch. however if your placing other gear of sufficient weight and using single battery in front hatch that might be an option.

To build the cart you buy two C-Tugs and a coupler that attaches them together.All parts are available from Railblaza. It's great for larger kayaks like the Pro Angler.

@@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190 Thanks I’ll look into it.

It should work great. have fun!

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Thank you!

Thanks , have fun in a kayak that fits your needs, Good Luck and be safe as well

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Thank you for your response. Sent a note to Lowrance a few days ago and waiting for response. @@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190

My guess is the more expensive unit has autopilot built in and the cheaper AP model doesn't. So if you have a Lowrance graph you can use the AP model as your graph has autopilot software. The more expensive is for graphs without AP software , but that's only a guess. Hopefully Lowrance will clarify that@@johnkinslow3483

@@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190 Another question if I may. Have you found a way or setting in you Lowrance unit to dampen the sudden directional change when following a route? Kind of scarry being almost thrown out of the boat.

not completely, especially with XI5 on my boat 36volt 100 plus lbs thrust. The XI3 12v on the kayak is not as abrupt. So far best solution is to set % power to moderate level. I rarely set to a speed for this reason. When controlling to a set speed the motor may use big corrections ( it wants to grade well on precision at the expense of smoothness. Anchor mode could throw somebody overboard or possibly flip a kayak. Also if your XI5 is circa 2019 they had a firmware problem that they now have an update for. Check motorguide website to download.

It's actually a Garmin Panoptix mount attached loosely to allow it to swivel while the motor is turning. It is used to raise the motor. The other cord runs thru a grommet below the release plate. Pull the cord it pulls the plate down to unlock for deployment or allow the panoptix cord to raise the motor when stowing.

@@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190 thanks!

my situation of size, where I store it and how I will transport it. OTW I would go with the 14.

Yup would've worked, Thanks

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Awesome! Thank you!

Using the primary batteries (2 /50AH in parallel for 100AH) if you run at 70 to 75 % power should give 3.5 to four hours range . However things like speed mode can ramp the motor up to full power when fighting currents or weed fouled props which will raise the amp draw significantly shortening your range. I use the third house battery as a reserve for these concerns. For best results use 8 Gauge ( or thicker) wire with as clean and tight of connections as possible.

yes the power tee can be where it is convenient . The backbone needs to be terminated on each end with the resistors.

one Elite Fs is all you need, i'm finding the outback may not have the cockpit size to effectively use two graphs.

@@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190 i agree i fish striped bass allot and that small 9” finder gets in the way.

see if you can find an HDS Carbon12 @@osilekpl79

I was able to pickup ActiveTarget 1 from a good man off marketplace I learned to be extra careful there are allot of bad people out there trying to scam. I was trying to send you message but I cant find your contact email anywhere on your page. Now im on a mission to find either Carbon 12 Gen 3 or Live. I'm also looking into making my setup portable in order to be able use it on 3 of my vessels. Kayak, Gheenoe and jon boat.

Freshwater washdown after each use. Also I bought a saltwater prop install kit, it contains an anode which will take the the electrolysis from the lower unit.

But a saltwater motor would be better.

@@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190 thanks! I just got a really good deal on a freshwater one so I went with it instead. I won’t be going to the salt as often. Maybe 3-4 times a year but I’ll definitely do a wash down. Would you mind sharing which saltwater prop you bought?

Yakattack MightyMount XL, 6" It also is available in 9in and 12in. I bought at Amazon (www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077YS8W5M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1#:~:text=to%20zoom%20in-,Yakattack%20MightyMount%20XL%2C%206%22,-%2C%20Includes%20Hardware

What you saw relative to water on the floor is pretty normal if you have the mirage drive installed or the blank cassette plug. What little water comes in drains thru the the drive slot. The amount of water coming in can be adjusted by changing the depth of the motor. If you are getting a lot of water either raise or lower the motor.

All this will work well on your PA14, the NMEA bus is easy and will allow your Elite FS to control your XI3, 2 Displays works well on a Pro Angler. I may drop back and punt, to one graph on the Outback. I'm in process cleaning up the install and hope to have a video soon. Thx

Hit by a Gust, sheeted out to control the boat, then back to adjusting heading and trim. Probably overreacted but demonstrating " self rescue" wasn't in the script

Two things you will need, first will be to fabricate a bow mounting plate that will fit a 2016 outback( the 2019 bow is similar but not quite the same). The concept of using the handle mounts with longer screws should work as well as drilling two larger mounting holes at the rear of the plate. You would then size the plate appropriate to the 2016 Bow shape and dimensions. Second part your battery should work but may be slightly undersized, so you may not want to run the motor at full throttle. Two batteries in an appropriate sized case in the rear tankwell might be better. Give it a shot, let us know how it worked!

I have a 2017 Outback which is the same as ‘16. I drew up a plan on cardboard how I want mine to look and I had my friend cut me one out of stainless steel i think we used 1/8”. Then i attached quick release bracket ran the cables to batteries in the back Im running 2 50ah for the trolling motor and small battery in the front for my Lawrence unit. I was going to make the mounting plate out of the white cutting board material. You will be fine with 40lb and battery up front

Your point about Garmin is well taken. Panoptix is considered the leader in this area. but, You have to understand this is part of a system that uses Lowrance chartplotters to interface with a motorguide XI3 trolling motor. We'll have to get it on the water and see how it performs. The results will be shared in future videos.

@@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190 yea I wish they made it so brands "talked" to eachother. Humminbird has the best side scan and down scan it seems. Lowrance has its pluses too. It sucks you have to pick and choose and can't have the best of all 3. Hopefully the live target is better than the last time I looked at it. It was really bad with the stitching. Essentially it was multiple beams stitched on the screen and you could see the lines of all the beams. Best of luck to ya 👍.

Using a sail offshore you would want to build a DIY furler so you could confidently furl the sail around the mast when fishing. I don't think it would be easy to unstep the mast and stow it when offshore in open water. Checkout this video from nasko films he has used a sail to fish offshore . Ask him the same question? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/adN1kqp42crQc58.html

Simple answer yes, whether it's the PDL drive or the mirage drive on Hobies , that's the beauty of pedal drive kayaks.

When I did mine I had to fabricate it myself as no one had a prefabbed one available at that time, If I were to start the project today , I would purchase the plate and hardware from oneobjectivebf.com. If you choose to make your own plate, I used the existing handle mounts upfront (just take the screws Hobie used go to hardware store match the size and thread and buy two screws that are 3/4 inch longer). For the rear mount I used 2 -1/4 20 stainless bolts with matching Lock nuts and 2 rubber spacers with fender washers. I will put a link to one objective in the description as that is probably the best way to go.

Cool, thanks

Yes, this one is black to color match freshwater motors, there is a white one to match saltwater motors as well, just different part #

Hey, that"s great!!! Enjoy your Hobies, the Outbacks are a lot of fun and the hull performs well under all modes of propulsion.Consider a furler kit either Hobies or a DIY Furler.

Rick I have added a couple of links in the description above for a couple of good text books on basic sailing terms, techniques and concepts, studying either one along with a basic sailing course will get you off to a good start

Your tell tail should be flying about 15 degrees above horizontal, sails in too tight for wind angle

@@LiamEarly1 Excellent point, the main point that I had hoped to make was "don"t over trim" and you caught me.

@@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190is that when the sail is flailing when you are going into the wind?

he's obviously an expert lmao

The Salty is a Malibu PDL with the tank well reshaped to accommodate fishing. The current version Malibu PDL appears identical to the Salty. They are both good kayaks with decent stability but not quite as stable as the 2019 and later Hobie Outback. Particularly secondary stability on the Malibu is good but not as rock solid as the Hobie. I capsized the Malibu once, but to be honest I was being a smart ass leaning to the inside to lift the lower part of the drive to transition shallow water. When I came out of the creek into open water I got hit by both strong crosswind and wave. I was swimming before I knew what happened. Had I been operating the kayak in a sensible manner it would not have flipped. So all my fault not the Malibu.

@@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190 thanks, i tried the Salty, did not like the primary or secondary stability, found a cheap Malibu nearby for sale, but i guess i ll pass on it if it s the same

Give it a try, your catamaran experience should transfer over well. Start with the sail kit and either a DIY furler or the one Hobie sells. Go out on moderate wind days and use the mirage drive to help tacking and if all else fails let the sail luff while you peddle back to shore. Mostly go out have fun the kayak sails a lot like a catamaran.

Thx, You will like the XI3 for its features as well as more power

Good to hear your making good progress. In answer to your battery question your 2 50Ah batteries in parallel should be good. The smaller 10 to 20 AH battery for the Lowrance GPS and other items will be sufficient. Smaller battery will fit inside front hatch, many people secure it to the sail mast.

Thank you thats what I wanted to hear! I will order one today.

If your planning on LiFepo4 for the smaller battery, Chins has a nice inexpensive 20AH battery for cheap on Amazon or Ampere Time 10 AH for lower price

@@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190 great I will check them out

Just an update.. Chins great little battery amazon delivered same day I got it in the evening not sure why such special delivery. All the wiring is done and battery box completed. Today i will just add paracord ropes like you have to help lower and rise the motor. Wish i knew how to share pics with you. Thanks for all the help!

I 'm working on a reprocessed edit to improve the audio or do a voice over as suggested below. However it may be better to reshoot a separate teaching video in more appropriate conditions with a second camera on a chesty for the audio track.

Point taken, I need to improve my post production skills and this video would make a good starting point to practice and learn. Thanks I appreciate your input.

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Absolute top 5 mph plus or minus 3, that's basically hull speed for the outback. At that power your drawing 45 amps ( + or -) and the battery system I use (2 x 50 AH LiFePo4 totaling 100 AH) will last 2 hours. Slow down to 70 to 75 % Speed will be 3.5 to 4 mph battery draw reduces to 25 to 30 amps and lasts 4 hous or more. Interesting concept is if you peddle along with 70 to 75 your speed will increase to 5mph + or - .3 MPH. I will be doing some long range proving runs using that method in the near future and have better data and a video soon.

That's in the works and should be out soon. thx for watching

Watch the new Tech stuff video

See the New just released NMEA 2K video . it has a simple but complete tutorial on how to set up a nmea2k bus. Thanks

it"s a 54" shaft set to a shallow depth. When the warranty expires I will cut it down to 36", not so it looks shorter but to allow it to stow completely when retracted.

AmpereTime LiFePo4 12V 50 AH , 2batteries in parallel for the motor 3rd battery powers Lowrance HDS and kayak accessories

The white Lowrance component is Point One GPs antenna and compass. Its primary purpose is to provide heading data to improve the accuracy of the map and steer modes . It is compatable with your Ti FS. A technical video is in process and and will come out soon. some folks aren't in to tech stuff so I saved it for last. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@@saltwaterdawgoutdoors2190Thank you for quick reply. I watched the video few times when I pay attention you answered all my questions.

A viewer just asked about mounting a bow mount on a 2016 Outback if that's similar to your Outback anything you could share about your project may help him. THX

If you don't require controlling it from a chart plotter, just the GPS remote Minn Kota is a good choice