I also would love to know how this looks post set 5. Assuming it'd want the Daisy Ducks. Would need something to answer to Daisys at least 🤔
@LookAtTheBaconКүн бұрын
@@LavilyDay I'm trying to upload the new list next weekend, fingers crossed. Stay tuned! :)
@LavilyDayКүн бұрын
@@LookAtTheBacon ooh fantastic! Can't wait to see it. Cheers 😁
@kylesnowdon18169 сағат бұрын
The daisy ducks are too expensive at the moment id rather put some money into another deck
@LavilyDay2 сағат бұрын
@@kylesnowdon1816 honestly, yeah. They're ridiculous right now.
@kylesnowdon18166 күн бұрын
Will this deck constantly be updated, i hope so as ive just bought 4 mufasa this is my first comp deck Cheers for the work Do you think its worth putting 2x nani in for another bodyguard
@LookAtTheBaconКүн бұрын
@@kylesnowdon1816 Thanks fine sir. Will try my best. Work is hard right now. Maybe next weekend if I can find the time. Cheers!
@LookAtTheBaconКүн бұрын
@@kylesnowdon1816 PS: Nani is not bad, I just think she's too slow for the meta right now. My list is ready and I already tested it, so yeah. I don't run her currently.
@chags351214 күн бұрын
Hey there! Have you made set 5 updates to this deck? Trying to figure out how it stacks up. Amber amethyst aggro looks terrifying right now. Did we get enough to keep playing this deck?
@jacobnoel812220 күн бұрын
What are your thoughts on the Bucky Discard matchup? Playing it feels real bad for this deck, but maybe I am just playing differently than you.
@thefallenmonk60523 күн бұрын
I need my Gnome Bacon!
@whiskeykilt1453Ай бұрын
I took this deck to a 50 man set champs. I've been playing for 4 weeks, and i finished 13th with it. I The entire tournament I thought Hans only triggered on my own princess/queen's And my last game while i was currently sitting in 5th, I was locked out for 3 turns at 19 lore. I played Hans when my opponent had a Mulan princess in play, but I didnt add the lore, and my opponent didnt say anything either. Found out afterwards and I was so upset. lol My only changes were removing the actions and adding 4x Baloos, which won me several games. I never had much change to use Big Aurora, so I ended up removing her for my next tournament.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
Great to hear, very well played!! =) Amazing stuff. Gl for your next one. PS: Yes, that's a nice interaction many folks miss. Sad he didn't say anything!
@whiskeykilt1453Ай бұрын
@@LookAtTheBacon One deck that I really had trouble against was Ruby/Amber. Their removal was just so strong early game with brawl and the (3) Uninkable Sisu that banishes a 1 str character. My matches were: 2-0 vs RP 0-2 vs RP (Tournament winner) 1-1 vs RP 2-0 vs RP 2-0 vs E/S Bucky 0-2 vs R/Am (Finished 3rd) I have another tournament coming up this Sunday. I found if my mulligan didn't get my a 1 drop, It was a huuuge up-hill battle the entire game
@whiskeykilt145329 күн бұрын
@@LookAtTheBacon I did want to ask though. Im having major issues against Emerald Steel now. I just cant get anything on the field. Diablo shift early and then constant removals from SotRF, Let the Storm Rage on and Ba-boom. How do you set up at all when this is going off and the diablo is just giving them more cards back
@nickspecter-vlacic3017Ай бұрын
Hi do you have a link of this deck in English? Its only opening the german version! Also, any new updates to this deck? It looks super interesting and I’m thinking of playing it in Texas Challenge and in remaining Ursula champs too. Happy to update results.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@nickspecter-vlacic3017 Hi there! If it's opened in a browser tab, you can change the language of the site in the top right corner. Just click on the little cogwheel and change the first row to English :) I have not changed the decklist yet anymore myself, but several people have had success in cutting each and every single draw card aside from the Gramma Tala and for that include the whole Stitch-line to simply draw from minions. I am personally not the biggest fan of this tech, but if it's successful for others, why not try it out :) Also many folks are running Piglet, big bodyguards like Nani, and some more McDuck Manors. I talk a bit about what's definitely not cuttable in the Mulligan Guide (latest video). Maybe you can check that out as well :) In any event: best of luck to you for Texas and the Set Champs! Cheers
@nickspecter-vlacic3017Ай бұрын
@@LookAtTheBacon Cool! Will you be releasing any gameplay videos?
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@nickspecter-vlacic3017 Since Pixelborn is down, I highly doubt it for the near future. Tabletop Simulator is fun to play but boring to watch and most other sites that I know have only weak AI to play against. Plus Webcam is not my style. Do you have any suggestions?
@nickspecter-vlacic301729 күн бұрын
@@LookAtTheBacon I think even a simple gmeplay video against AI on inktable would add a ton of value to these two videos you have already. Obviously, you can point out that it's weak AI who mulligans and plays wrong, but, fans of this list will still be able to see it in action and some combos and plays. It would be worth it to you to try given the interest this list got.
@cstorvoldАй бұрын
PSA, I defeated Illumineer's Quest: Deep Trouble extreme difficulty on the first try with this deck.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@cstorvold Yay! Congratz man. It's quicker than many people think haha.
@DocZagreusАй бұрын
What strategy do you use to outrun the 3 lore per round from flynn in red/purple?
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@DocZagreus None specific: Be faster and hope they greedily waste their Flynns for trades (aka trading themselves off the board eventually) in fear of my board spiraling out of control. Or waste their Sisu for trades: self-trading until gone/or until my hand is depleted and Sisu has not the highest ATK on the board anymore (which results in Flynn not triggering the 3 lore per round at all). This is especially useful when having multiple bodyguards out like for instance 2 Simbas. Additionally, it has to be mentioned that this is our weakest matchup for sure. Dealing with all this early pressure while always feeling the Sword of Damocles of Madame Medusa, Be King Undisputed, and Be Prepared in your neck can be hard...
@MrSetherionАй бұрын
why no piglet?
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@MrSetherion I have tried it time and time again but it has always failed me. First in Amber/Amethyst Hyper Aggro, now in this deck. The main problem are nukes in Steel decks like Fire the Cannons, Ba-Boom, Let the Storm rage on, Strength of a raging Fire, etc. Piglet always either dies before it can quest, or if they sniped your 1-drop, you don't have three minions anymore when you drop your potential third one on turn 3 and the Piglet would be finally ready to quest, leaving her at a meager 1 lore. The Caterpillar lives through all the aforementioned nukes because of the one additional HP and nets you these 3 lore guaranteed. And if they Brawl it (for instance when going against Red/Purple), you're feeling good because then your Sisu and/or big Anna will make it through the following turn. Additionally, if the Caterpillar doesn't get nuked and you can quest with it twice, the game is looking really, really good for you.
@MrSetherionАй бұрын
@@LookAtTheBacon thank you for the detailed answer, he just seemed like a good fit beeing a hero and a strong quester, but your points do make sense
@summo180sxАй бұрын
How'd you go at Bochum bud? Would love to see an update!
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@summo180sx I was on vacation with the family and caught a middle ear inflammation towards the end. When we flew back it became a barotitis into a tympanic effusion. In short: I can't hear anything on my left ear and am in severe pain 24/7. Therefore, I unfortunately wasn't able to attend Bochum at all, which is one of the biggest letdowns of my life, honestly. I put so much work, time, and heart into the preparation of this tournament, it's crazy. I am still absolutely gutted beyond belief about these circumstances, but I am afraid this was out of my hands. Health comes first and everything else would have been absolutely unreasonable. Someone played with my deck though and went 4-4-1. The 2:0 wins were against 2 Emerald/Steels and 2 Ruby/Sapphires, the 0:2 losses were against 2 Blue/Steels and 2 Ruby/Amethysts, and the 1:1 draw was against Ruby/Amethyst. I don't know how many more "Anna Aggros" were there, but it has to be a figure between 1 and 45 (because I saw an official colour breakdown and Amber/Sapphire was listed under the 46 "Other" attendees). So maybe that gives you some kind of closure on the matter. Sorry I let you guys down and couldn't showcase the power of the deck myself...truly a bummer and one of the saddest things that could have happened.
@user-sb1jo1jx7mАй бұрын
Welchen Cogsworth würdest du denn hinein nehmen? (den gelben aus Set 4 oder?) Und was würdest du raus tun dafür? Will das Deck am Store Championship probieren 😊
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@user-sb1jo1jx7m Den blauen für 5 Mana :) Einfach weil er das Board noch mehr beschützt. Das lohnt sich dann auch, wenn man mehr Bodyguards drin hat, wie zum Beispiel den gelben 3 Mana Donald Duck. Das wäre auf jeden Fall eine ausprobierenswerte Variante. Viel Erfolg und Spaß für die Set Champs! :)
@user-sb1jo1jx7mАй бұрын
Ah ok. Danke. Cool. Was würdest du raus tun dafür?
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@user-sb1jo1jx7m Wahrscheinlich 1 Sisu oder 1 Anna. Je nachdem, ob ich das Gefühl habe, dass mir Draw fehlt oder OTK/Combo Potenzial fehlt. Man kann auch 1 Nothing to Hide rausnehmen. Je nach dem, wie viele Cogsworths man in Summe inkludieren möchte :) Gibt generell eh viel Spielraum. Die McDuck Manor Anzahl muss nicht fix sein, die große Shift Aurora kann man noch öfter spielen, usw. Wichtig ist auf jeden Fall, dass die Perdita raus ist, welche ursprünglich mal drin war. Man geht einfach zu selten auf 6 Ink hoch. Lg
@driesboscompensatie1563Ай бұрын
Edit: Sorry for the repetition, I thought my earlier comment was not posted. Thanks for the great info! I will give it a try. About the 4 cost uninkables: Sisu is great: 2 lore, hero, 4 willpower. Hades doesn’t have all that but works on play. Have you thought about swapping hades for TB generous fairy? 4 willpower and you can choose from 4 cards. How did you do at Bochum?
@driesboscompensatie1563Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great info! I am going to try it out. I have only 1 hades so I want to replace it with TB generous fairy hoping to draw 4 or 5 cost characters
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@driesboscompensatie1563 Good idea. Nice subsitution!
@driesboscompensatie1563Ай бұрын
@@LookAtTheBaconThanks! What about substituting a Mufasa for a big Grama Tala? You could shift it on turn 5, quest, ink for 3 lore instead of just 1 from small Grama Tala. As a 4 8 its harder to kill than mufasa and small GT together. The extra lore for inking could make it worthwile to return Perdita in the deck. The more big cards the better Mufasa becomes
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@driesboscompensatie1563 Also not a bad idea! I like your takes, you seem to be a very smart deckbuilder. Although I wouldn't cut a Mufasa for it and more likely a Sisu or big Anna tbh. Mufasa is just too strong against boardwipes like Be Prep.
@daberserker2212Ай бұрын
Hello, sweet deck congrats. Have you considered Pongo? He's great at drawing extra cards and he's a hero as well, he overperformed in Ruby Amber for me.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@daberserker2212 Yeah, I tested him heavily. Oftentimes I didn't have the 2 ink left to trigger him, though. Therefore he got the boot haha. But glad you got so much success with him :))
@chags3512Ай бұрын
A modified version of this deck (added bodyguards and pridelands) and kept big kida instead of mufasa got me 6th today. Lost to two Bucky discard Diablo decks (slightly different versions). Beat a random yellow green deck that almost beat me with jasper, a emerald amethyst aggro deck, and a ruby amethyst deck
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@chags3512 Awesome, congratz on the finish dude! Maybe share a link to your decklist if you would be so kind? Just for comparison :) Thx in advance and gl if you play some more Set Champs! I think the deck will only get better after time. Maybe in 2 Sets it's truly competitive-ready, we'll see.
@summo180sxАй бұрын
Can we please have some game play? I'm enjoying the deck but im finding it hard to keep cards active on the board without some sort of Bodyguard unless i just keep playing cards until i can hit my opponent with a massive 12-15 lore turn.
@chags3512Ай бұрын
I cannot seem to get this deck to work fast enough, especially against ruby amethyst.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
Update: The requested Mulligan Guide video is up! :) Gl in Bochum everyone -> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nst1nqqnxrfIaIk.htmlsi=S2xUVzOPaoKt64Ib
@DanDon313Ай бұрын
I really like the deck! Thanks a lot for your work explaining all the choices. See ya in Bochum!
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@DanDon313 Thanks man. Best of luck to you, whatever you end up playing! :)
@driesboscompensatie1563Ай бұрын
How did you fare at Bochum?
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@driesboscompensatie1563 I was on vacation with the family and caught a middle ear inflammation towards the end. When we flew back it became a barotitis into a tympanic effusion. In short: I can't hear anything on my left ear and am in severe pain 24/7. Therefore, I unfortunately wasn't able to attend Bochum at all, which is one of the biggest letdowns of my life, honestly. I put so much work, time, and heart into the preparation of this tournament, it's crazy. I am still absolutely gutted beyond belief about these circumstances, but I am afraid this was out of my hands. Health comes first and everything else would have been absolutely unreasonable. Someone played with my deck though and went 4-4-1. The 2:0 wins were against 2 Emerald/Steels and 2 Ruby/Sapphires, the 0:2 losses were against 2 Blue/Steels and 2 Ruby/Amethysts, and the 1:1 draw was against Ruby/Amethyst. I don't know how many more "Anna Aggros" were there, but it has to be a figure between 1 and 45 (because I saw an official colour breakdown and Amber/Sapphire was listed under the 46 "Other" attendees). So maybe that gives you some kind of closure on the matter. Sorry I let you guys down and couldn't showcase the power of the deck myself...truly a bummer and one of the saddest things that could have happened.
@driesboscompensatie1563Ай бұрын
@@LookAtTheBaconThat’s too bad! Hope your ear is better now .
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@driesboscompensatie1563 Thanks for the kind words! It's a little better but still horrible tbh. Might get an operation in two weeks if it's not better until then, the spot is already reserved. Fingers crossed that I won't need it! Are you attending Set Championships this month?
@Ben-xc3doАй бұрын
Can you help me better understand what Hans is doing here? I understand you gain one lore when you play him when he’s out but I struggle to see how the new Donald Duck isn’t a better card? As long as you have a minion to quest, you get the same lore and now a decent body guard on the table on top of it.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@Ben-xc3do Hans is truly the MVP of the whole deck. He gets one lore for sure and then quests for 2 every round when uncontested. Way better than Donald at 1 per round. Both will get traded at some point anyway, sure, but until then, the 1 lore per round is more important than the Bodyguard. We're a Hyper Aggro deck after all and just need the tempo badly. Even Simba is just a means to protect the Lilo. We wouldn't run him if there were only other aggro decks (where we are faster than them) and lategame control decks (because we'll outtempo and outlore them anyway). So it's our protection against stuff like Red/Purple and for that reason it's good. More Bodyguards would be overkill though because the tempoloss would be just too substantial imho. But of course you can exclude Hans, put in 4 Donald's, play 50 games, and tell me how it went :) I would honestly be genuinely curious about your results. In any event, best of luck with the deck! :)
@chags3512Ай бұрын
Hans only has 2 defense, he’s been getting quickly removed in my testing :/
@Ben-xc3doАй бұрын
@@chags3512that my was my experience too. Pretty much a one and done quester
@chags3512Ай бұрын
@@Ben-xc3do I got 6th today in my local set championship with a modified version of this deck (added in some pride lands and more mcduck and some bodyguards) Hans did nothing for me. Didn’t even get to quest once the time I played him haha got 1 lore for playing him with a queen in play
@heward80Ай бұрын
Sorry, I only have one sisu that I can replace it with.
@Imoshen92Ай бұрын
❤
@davejreedАй бұрын
Worth adding dozen eggs? Or is that 2 slow.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
Hey, thanks for the comment. I am currently not even running a single copy of Cogsworth, which is just 1 ink more expensive but has basically the same effect but attached to a body. So I would say no, the card is not too slow, we just don't need it's effect at all imho. We just want to get as many characters out as quick as possible, get our synergies going (Hans, big Anna) and then refill our hand as quick as possible to spam onto the board again after getting traded/removed. So there is just no space in the deck left for protection cards like this imho. I could be wrong here, but that's also for instance Frank Karstens approach when he built his Set 3 hyper Aggro deck. And he even cut on draw haha. Just 60 characters with an extremely low curve and high lore values. Unheard of in Set 4 because of Bucky Discard getting even stronger, but still an interesting sidefact to also consider. Best of luck in any event with your iteration of the deck! :)
@kanekikarma4696Ай бұрын
Nice! I’m liking this deck a lot, I’m a huge fan of aggro decks and have been running Amber/Amethyst for a while now, might branch out into something like this as well. I do have a question, I’m lacking three Sisus, do you have any cards you’d recommend as a replacement? At least until I can get the missing copies.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! Good luck with the deck :) You could add two Nothing to Hides for the Draw and one more McDuck Manor for the Loring aspect of Sisu. Also if you feel you have enough draw anyway, you could scratch the Nothing to Hides and add two big shift Auroras to get the combo out more often and reliable. The latter is something I am currently looking into myself as well :)
@kanekikarma4696Ай бұрын
@@LookAtTheBacon appreciate the response! I’m thinking I’ll either put one more big Aurora and two Cogsworths in, or put two big Auroras and one more Mcduck Manor. I think I’ll be fine on card draw, so putting the bigger, protective options seems like it’d be helpful to keep the smaller cards safe, especially against steel decks.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@kanekikarma4696 Great ideas! Good luck with your choices :) Might have to double-check re-inserting the Cogsworths myself as well haha.. ;) PS: Have you checked out the Mulligan Guide yet? (newest video)
@kanekikarma4696Ай бұрын
@@LookAtTheBacon I haven’t, no, but I’ll rectify that tomorrow!
@BunnyFuMasterАй бұрын
Very cool list...I've been playing a similar list but trying to leverage some of Blue's item synergy to have the new Ariel as a finisher with the items I'm using being Lantern, Miracle Candle and Eye of the Fates. I'm wondering how effective Tala, and the cantrips have been? Are you mostly inking them and just using them to dig in the late game? Did you try out Shift Queen + Alice? I found that to be some of the more explosive lore gains
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
Thanks, much appreciated! :) Gramma is amazing, yes. She's even better than Sisu because she immediately refills your hand. Definitely uncuttable. Eye of the Fates is too expensive and slow for the deck. If we waste a turn putting it out, we give the enemy another free chance of boardclearing us. Lantern is also absolutely unnecessary because all our stuff is dead cheap and can be dropped onto the board at once anyway in the midgame. So it's not gaining us value, it just wastes the turn we play it. That is the reason we are also not running Plutos or Docs. And we're not letting the game get into the lategame anyway where cards like this have paid for themselves either. And Miracle Candle is just a "win more"-card. If we already have three minions on the board and the opponent can't remove them because he is too slow (ramp decks like Blue/Steel or Red/Blue) or doesn't find his answers to them (Green/Steele, Green/Purple, Green/Orange), then we have won anyway and the Candle is unnecessary. And if we don't have three minions because we constantly get traded/removed, it's a completely dead draw. Something that clogs up our hand and can't be played and only inked. Imagine that in a topdeck situation. Therefore, I would definitely never run it and always prefer Minions and Draw over it. Shift Queen + Alice is a terrible combo imho that I have honestly hated since it was first theorycrafted. Even with two queens Alice is only at 9 and therefore doesn't get the +4 ink and so you will need another buff card which we don't run...yeah, it's just way too much setup needed to make it work. Also you won't reliably draw into it on a constant basis. Plus even if you do, the Queen will get traded before you have several of it on the board, etc. It's truly unplayable in my opinion. Maybe in three or four more sets when there is an OTK with it. I wish you the best of luck with your homebrew, honestly I do, but by changing so many cards from the original list already, it has already become a completely different deck. And with all the item removal running around nowerdays in shift Aladdin, Benja, Wildcat, Judy and the like, I would argue it doesn't have that much merit in the current meta. But I would rather love it to suceed, sure :)
@BunnyFuMasterАй бұрын
@LookAtTheBacon the Queen Alice package does require those 3 cards, and for the baby queen to go unanswered, but with the powerful mulligan in this game it's not difficult to assemble, and if you don't it's all inkable so you pivot. Alice and big queen on there own can also help you contest the board when you need to. Queen is also another 1 drop to trigger hans. Yeah, the item package didn't super work out. Flavorsham was great at refilling post them answering your board, but it added to many bad top decks in games where they answered my board. The idea was Glean and Miracle Candle would grab the last points of lore post Be Prep or other sweeper but it wasn't quite there. I'm curious what your ideal openings are, and how fast you tend to win. Tala is a great card that replaces herself and contests the board, but the reason I questioned it is she's a quester so I'm wondering what the game state looks like when you're happy to draw here towards the end game? Just the Ability to stick two bodies?
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@BunnyFuMaster The same reason why we're running Sisu, Hades, and Mufasa (plus Lucky before that): because it's Draw that is also attached to a body, exactly :) And how does Alice gain 9 attack from two Queens when each gives +4? That is only +8, right? Leaving her at 9 and not 10 willpower. Where is my mistake?
@NanoMoltenCoreАй бұрын
Very nice, looks like fun. You had mentioned uploading a mulligan guide for the (updated) deck. Sounds like a good watch. Some insight regarding E/ST Diablo and R/SA Control would be greatly appreciated. Would you mind replying with the updated deck list please? The link in the description doesn’t work.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
Thanks for your kind words fine sir. Here is the decklist again, it should work if you paste it into your browser: dreamborn.ink/de/decks/dPPLTKpcWeIs9WbtGYWZ Also, in short: The R/SA Control MU thankfully plays itself. If you know what you're up against, always keep your Judy to snipe their Quill. If not, go full Aggro and hardmulligan for Lilo, a princess, and Hans. From there on, they usually can't control your snowballing and big Sisu as well as Be Prep often come way too late, especially when you had the Judy in the beginning. Also the Location protects you nicely and doesn't die to Maui, our Mufasas spawn other minions 9 out of 10 times, plus we have enough draw to refill the board even after a big boardwipe. Additionaly, cards like the Great Stone Dragon (that are currently getting more and more popular because of their MU against Green/Steel) are completely dead because the enemy can never use it to ink as we don't give him/her material to recycle from (since we aren't trading). Outracing us with Tamatoa and Dime is also extremely rare, I haven't seen it work against me yet. Tl;dr: The two small Sisus as well as Brawls are our biggest enemy and as long as we are able to dodge more than one of them, we're golden. Emerald/Steel is explained in detail in the video as well as the written Dreamborn deck description imho, but I can talk about it again in the Mulligan guide as well if you want to, sure. If you have any further questions or more specific ones, don't hesitate to ask :) Always open to chat. Gl hf with the deck!
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
Mulligan Guide video is up btw. Good luck in Bochum and the Set Championships! :)
@mauriziobivona3215Ай бұрын
tried 10 game vs buky discard...... 10 loss if GS play diablo you are out if GS shift robin hood you are out if GS play hidden cove you are out if GS play grab you are out too many game over vs GS meta
@NanoMoltenCoreАй бұрын
Wow…
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
That's sad to hear. I hope you'll have more success in the future in this MU. Could be many reasons though (mulligans, unlucky topdecks, bad day, etc). I personally am currently 21-1 against it. Maybe try the newest decklist? I made some more small changes in the last days. Also, regarding your mentioned cards: 1. Shift Robin Hood will seldomly happen because we trade their small Robin Hood with our Kida. It's one of the only MU's where we make a single trade, if ever. And it's this one. 2. Cove is completely unimportant for us as it is mostly used to protect Diablos from enemy Diablos or direct removal. We ignore Diablo, and +1/+1 stats for enemy minions are absolutely negligible to us. It's even great for us if he wastes his turn three to play Cove and puts two minions on there. Loses a lot of tempo that he could use to put more active trade material on the board. 3. Diablo: see #2. We have to ignore it. We don't have answers for it at all anyway. If he draws, he draws. We have to hope to dodge Let the Storm rage on and Strength of a raging Fire as long as possible, especially double singing with Ursula. 4. Grab your Sword is strong but doesn't kill: small Anna, Simba, Wendy, Judy, Pascal, Caterpillar, big Anna, big Aurora, Gramma, Sisu, Mufasa, Perdi, Cherna without support. Also the minion that sings it cannot trade at the same time (which is good for us), plus they basically never hardcast it. Therefore, oftentimes "enough" of our board sticks and if not, we have enough draw in Gramma, Sisu, Hades, Develop Your Brain, Nothing To Hide, as well as reach in Perdi and Mufasa to refill the board quite quickly, even if we do get wiped. So, there are definitely ways to mitigate the rate of losing to Green/Steel. And if you don't believe me as a specific player/person, there is someone in this comment section a bit above you who played the 10k tournament today and finished in the 30s out of 150+ players with my deck :) Gl hf to you whatever you choose to play in the future though and thanks for the feedback.
@mauriziobivona3215Ай бұрын
@@LookAtTheBacon 1: no one quest with robin if have shift in hand if he do he dont know how to play 2: cove are played not only to secure diablo or other but also for attack, diablo shifted can kill almost all t2 drop and stay alive 3: dont kill diablo it means that he draw 2 every round so he can have multiple solution to kill is still a good deck dont take me wrong but vs green steel or steel sapphire is a mess. i played vs similar (no hades no mufasa - with pimpi and donald duck musketeer) deck this saturday in a 100 people tournament i won 2-0 with a green steel not buky discard i think that was a good deck so when back to home i tried 10 games with it but every time i can stop this deck when it reach 14 - 16 lore and win i belive that is a good deck, in a tourney can do well but depends on pairings, if you play vs red blue, tecnically you can destroy him, if you find purple red you can fight and win, if you find green steel good luck for a draw.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@mauriziobivona3215 1. You would be surprised how many people make mistakes, especially when facing this deck of mine that they have probably never encountered before. More often than not they get greedy and then we can punish them for it :) 2. If they decide to use their Diablo to trade, that's good for us because then eventually it will die and stop drawing. So it is quite rare that my enemies start trading with him tbh. They prefer the mass draw and stay questing with him, which at least gives us tempo aka Lore ourselves. 3. As I said: That's true, but we don't have any way to get rid of it anyway. Amber/Sapphire lacks removal in general - in any deck with this colour combination. So don't wrap your head around their Diablo and just concentrate on the best gameplay of yourself, plus hope he doesn't quickly draw into several cheap removals ;) Thanks for your kind words anyway. I wish you great tournament finishes no matter with what deck you decide to play! :)
@patrickmcclain5692Ай бұрын
Very interesting build. I ran this type of deck on PB and went 42 - 31. I didnt use songs, used neverland as a 1 drop, and had mulitple copies of manor. I tried Anna but was too slow if i was actively questing each round and the opponent was doing trades to take my cards out. I did try Hans and wanted to use him but couldnt get the right amount of targets for his enter llay effect. The one thing i did find sucessful was using no 6, and 5 5 costs that have ward. So 3 donald ducks quest for 2, and 2 cogsworth. The idea being if thats the last card im dropping its prettt much board wipe or i win since it dodges everything from Bruno to steel, and medusa. Only tremaine which no one plays anymore would be a problem. I also used the 3 3 Mickey mouse quest for 2 rather than pascal, as if i dont need to trade against hyper aggro i might as well get the 2 lore each turn. Great deck tech and maybe i should tinker more with mine now.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
Hey, thanks so much for your feedback and the detailed comment! Really enjoyed reading it :) Some quick remarks on it, if you allow: 1. Including Neverlands, Donald Ducks, Mickey Mouses, more Manors, and more Cogsworths without running the Hans and Anna package at all (as well as cutting several other key components) frankly equals talking about a completely different deck haha. So saying you went 42-31 is only really the case for exactly what you said yourself: a "type" of this deck, but not my deck. So I hope no one stops watching the video because he or she thinks the winrate is that low ;D But no offence, I hope you get where I am coming from with this line of argumentation. It is still 57.5% after all. 2. For your substitutions and tech choices, I have the following comments to make -> a) I am personally not a fan of Neverlands at all tbh. It dies too quickly, gains too few lore, as well as has absolutely zero trade value. Our Kidas, Annas, and Auroras at least kill some small stuff when the enemy is trading into them eventually, so that's always better imho. I would definitely cut Neverland completely and not run a single copy if you would ask me. b) The Mickey over the Pascal is an interesting, reasonable idea which I fully understand, but since I cut my Pascal entirely in the new list for a ninth 1-drop (see Dreamborn), I couldn't justify including the Mickey myself right now. But the idea isn't bad, thanks for sharing that. c) Also the Cogsworth's are great and I had two myself in the original decklist here. I fully understand where you're coming from with them and I could see myself including them again in the future as well, we will see. This will require further live testing in tournaments. d) But what I really like is your inclusion of the new Donald Duck. I hype the card quite a bit myself, but the only downside that I see is that he is quite bad on it's own, aka when we don't have other minions ready to quest from last round. And in some rare, very unfortunate circumstances against Steel decks that run several Ba-Booms, this can actually happen when on the draw. So then Donald gets progressively worse and that is why I haven't included him or even actively tested him yet. But I should change that and do so. Thanks for the nudge! :) Gl hf with your homebrew fine sir! In any event it's nice to meet a fellow Amber/Sapphire player from time to time haha.
@patrickmcclain5692Ай бұрын
@@LookAtTheBacon Thanks for the response. Yeah I guess I didn't consider that about Neverland, but my thought was that it needs to be answered, or its just going to sit there and gain lore. Against Red or Purple, locations tend to be not that good; however against Green it can become a nuisance they have to deal with. I get what you are saying here and maybe I should remove it, I just don't like playing Lilo so much as it just gets killed all the time too easily. Plus even if you wait a turn to get out your Simba for protection, they still can choose how they want to challenge and against Purple this gets really bad, as they will Fox into Simba and then use a Rafiki for example to take out Lilo giving you no trade at all. You play some interesting 1 drops here with the draw card value, Perhaps thats an angle I wasn't considering because I do get to a point when building a deck going ok...what cards do I not want to draw later in the game. Like round 12, drawing into a Lilo is pretty horrible, easily removed. Drawing into a location when you don't have board presence is bad as well. I would think you would always want a 1 drop of some type to get your lore generation starting early. However later in the game when I'm at 5 or 6 ink, getting a draw card wouldn't be too bad as I'm essentially replacing a 1 cost with a whatever I draw next. So I will try that line. I wasn't referring to that Donald Duck you are thinking of. That one is ok, bodyguard, and gives you the 1 lore right away, however I don't see it as a bounce target, and again...would you want this as a late game draw when all you need is 2 lore to win? No, you want to draw something else. I was referring to the common card from Inklands I believe, the 4/3 Donald Duck with Ward for 5. I look at Cogs and that Duck as my win cons, as unless they have a board wipe or double area damage effects, I'm getting that 2 lore out of them. I really like Hans, I think he has good trade value, but Anna is so easily killed by both Medusa and can be Kit Cloudkicked which I just hate because of her ink cost to replay her. If PB was still up I would theory craft some more on this, if I decide to come out of retirement and play Lorcana again I will consider playing this day. Thanks
@lukewright9145Ай бұрын
Please share your decklist link- current one is broken- thanks
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
dreamborn.ink/de/decks/dPPLTKpcWeIs9WbtGYWZ Maybe copy it and put it into the browser will work?
@marokin21Ай бұрын
can you share dreamborn link? this one in description is kinda broken. Is there any possible substitution for mufasa?
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
dreamborn.ink/de/decks/dPPLTKpcWeIs9WbtGYWZ
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
As for Mufasa, I am debating on putting in more shift Auroras. So maybe you could give that line a chance :) Gl hf in any event!
@sebastianreiners1545Ай бұрын
Glückwunsch zum Erfolg des ersten Videos, kommt ja sehr gut an! Ich habe das Deck jetzt auch schon 20-30 mal bei Inktable durchgetestet und mich würde deine Meinung gegen das Steelsong Setup interessieren. Ich weiss dass es aktuell nicht stark in der Meta vertreten ist, aber meine Freundin und ich spielen Steelsong und Red Blue Control. Im Matchup gegen Steelsong scheint es etwas schwieriger zu sein, obwohl es gegen grün stahl geht. Hast du Erfahrungen damit?
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
Dankeschön, lieb von dir! Ja, ich freue mich auch :) Tatsächlich, ja. Ich bin in letzter Zeit offline auch hier und da mal dagegen gelaufen und habe daher jetzt diese Changes gemacht: -1 Pascal -1 Wendy -1 Perdita Und +2 Aurora, Wächterin der Träume +1 Jasmin, Thronerbin von Agrabah Durch die Jasmin erhöhen wir unser Tempo bzw die Wahrscheinlichkeit auf einen 1 Drop im Mulligan (wie im Video erwähnt) sowie haben einen weiteren Hans-Enabler; und die Aurora bringt tempotechnisch gut Stats aufs Board und beschützt unsere 1 und 2 Drops vor eben diesen "lästigen", starken Removalsongs. Perdita kann oft nicht gespielt werden, da wir eh selten auf 6 Ink hochgehen, Wendys brauchen wir nicht so dringend wie die Auroras und Annas weil sie keine Prinzessin ist und wir eh genug 2-Drops spielen und Pascal habe ich gecutted, weil ich immer weniger gegen Aggro gelaufen bin und das Trade Potenzial seiner Stats einfach nicht mehr benötige. Vielleicht kannst du diese Substitutionen ebenfalls mal ausprobieren und mir Bescheid sagen, wie es im MU gegen Steelsong bei euch Zuhause dann geklappt hat :) Viel Erfolg und Spaß so oder so von meiner Seite! Lg
@danielmoock3472Ай бұрын
Thank you for this wisdom 🙌🏼
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
You're welcome my friend. Glad to see you popping up on the channel! :) Hugs to USA
@utbgaming4466Ай бұрын
As a redfasa player since set 2. I'm going to give this a go at an upcoming 10K tournament this weekend.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
Kudos and best of luck to you! Let me know how it went and what decks you were facing :) I am thinking about a mulligan guide next. We'll see. Cheers!
@utbgaming4466Ай бұрын
I placed 37th. Out of 150 + players. Lost to green steel (who made top 8) / ruby amethyst ( I think he placed 11th) and another emerald / amber who went 27th.
@LookAtTheBaconАй бұрын
@@utbgaming4466 Sounds great, congratz to you! In my opinion that's a good finish. Maybe if you run into more Red/Blue and Blue/Steel next time you can even make top cut. Best of luck for your next tournament in any event! :) PS: I watched some of the tournament today on Twitch, but only saw the top 8 cut. My mistake for not tuning in earlier! Maybe I would have caught someone actually playing the deck :)
@BunnyFuMasterАй бұрын
@utbgaming4466 I was at CCS as well and watch your stream match...Under the Seas where tough to beat! I wonder if you had any tweaks you'd make? I played a similar list but ran pretty bad