The works of the great poet, Homer, are filled with words that not only survive in Albanian but continue to be used. From Homer, you can get not only words but also phrases that possess all the signs of a typical Albanian expression. If someone were to interpret Homer from the Albanian language perspective, much light would be shed on the works of that famous poet. Between Homeric and Albanian sentences, there is a striking resemblance in expression, phraseology, and sentence structure. A study of this nature would help interpret Homer, since the Albanian language is older than that of Greece (Science Magazine 2023), much can be learned about the influence of this [Albanian] on Homeric and later Greek. Title: Unconquerable Albania Author : Christ Anton Lepon Publisher: Chicago, Albanian Liberation Committee, 1944 Zeus was a Pelasgian, not a Helen. After Illyad the language of Gods was Gheg - North Albanian Dialect. (Herodotus)

Happy to be in the first thousand subscribers. Please don't feel like you have to stick to half-hour-ish videos for us, this is quite enjoyable.

Love this! I haven't read the Odyssey since high school but am definitely thinking of getting back into it now that I have some time. With regard to what you said about defining an epic in the western sense, I would push back a bit on the idea that no reader is going into a story (epic or not) without a good idea of tropes, at least with regard to a large subset of millennials and older gen Z! TVTropes has been a big staple for nerds of all stripes for a few years now and I would argue that it gives some readers an idea of certain aspects of stories that they can then easily define by the tropes used. Though whether or not this contributes to a broader definition of "epic" in the western sense I'm not sure haha

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1. Pelasgians are the ancestors of the greeks, proto-helllens. 2. It`s not doric invasion, it`s the doric return!!!! Doros started from Arcadia to the north and returned back again!! With the knowledge of the ancient greek dialects we can precisely proof the time and the spread of the greek tribes. The flood of Deukalion, the Father of Hellen, is dated around 10.000 b.c. based on geological and genealogical evidence. So the Dorians and their doric dialect

I got to visit Ithaki and Kefalonia last year, and before I arrived I went through the Odyssey again. So happy you are doing this series

First time seeing this gem. Instant like and subscribe, as well as a comment for the algorithm!

How the hell gives a monkey? So the books written thousands of years got some of it wrong, Homer tweeted a few things. So what? Not as if it's a cure for cancer or a vaccine for covids or something, still makes for good movies(mostly) even if it's only partly true or even complete BS.

In biblical terms, a generation is 40 years. This 40-year period represents a single generation that passed away before the next generation would inherit.

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excellent! love it! p.s., the IBM cartoon looks very much like a Sherman and Peabody episode.

Would I be right in thinking that godlike could also be god-rivalling? Up against a god?

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Thanks. I vaguely understood what the app. crit. was aboout but I never needed to know. Now I know. I will still be reading the footnotes rather than these, unless I have a crazy theory about some ancient plant description.

Thank you for this video. Curious as to why you translated ἔσχατοι ἀνδρῶν on line 23 as "the edges of men" instead of "the farthest of men"

Hi! I‘m looking for an introduction that traces the origin of the better known Greek myths to local legends and their dissemination in conjunction with the migration patterns. Any recommendations? Alternatively -where could one find the bibliography to this?

Never thought there would be a KZfaq of a kiwi discussing the historical accuracy of a 60s cartoon.

Good luck

Thank you for this video. I will need to watch it a few more times. Fascinating. Subscribed. I had no idea about the multiplicity of ethnicities in the Grecian region. Truth to tell, I thought it was just Athens, Sparta, and "other Greeks."

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Amazing work!

Those 186 ships weren't bothered about Helen, they just wanted a trip to foreign parts to get some nice new vegetables, medicinal herbs and fruit for their gardens. The war was a convenient excuse.

VERY clever! (esp. for a kiwi!) ;~ ]

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Hm, I just spoted a peculiar pattern around 9:32 . Section 1 is also visibly divided into 3 sub-parts, 1a being exclusively Intermediate/Mynian, the we "move" to the singleton section 1b incorporating only Ionian Athens, and the rest is all Achaian... Any thoughts?

186 ships were crewed by people who thought Helen was meh... ;-)

E. J. Sweeney , "Gods, Heroes and Tyrants: Greek Chronology in Chaos" --- See quote en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekrem_Akurgal

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Syene (Aswan) is 1,117,300 metres from Alexandria. Dividing by 5,000 stadia gives us 223.46 metres to a stadia.

I would have a question about the author of the catalogue of ships. I've been taught that second book is older than the rest of Illiad based on the differences between who is ruling what i the catalogue compared to the same peolle being rulers of different locales in the other 23 books. So is Homer writing the catalogue or is he using previously existing oral tradition?

It also seems to me that if we can locate Syene (and Alexandria) we would have a workable knowledge of the length of a stadia.

It seems to me that the error inherent in the use of a gnomon is avoided if Eratosthenes used the shadow of a very tall pillar. Therefore the obelisk rumour may be true. Eratosthenes may not have had one erected, but he could have worked with an existing obelisk.

Ta :)

The ridiculous things they used to teach mainframes!

Very interesting lecture, thank you for sharing!

Μην είσαι τόσο σίγουρος πως μόνο Άγγλοι σε παρακολουθούν....

The story told by Homer is a mashup of events that happened during an earlier Trojan War, circa the time of The Fall of Empires at the end of the 12th Century BC, with events witnessed by the poet, in the last Trojan War, at the end of the 8th Century BC. The story he weaves blends the Mycenaean heroes with later Greeks, with Athena and Ares weaving through both. The ancient past, from that 8th Century BC date, all the way back to Noah's Flood, in the mid-25th Century BC, is a confused and chaotic period, marked by stories even more "outrageous" than Homer's. "Historians" ascribed these to Man's need for entertainment or amusement, but mostly, they're "survivor stories", told by those fortunate enough to survive catastrophic events that defied description to people with little or no understanding of the normal processes in the Universe at large, and our Solar System in specific. Titanic events shaped the world we take for granted, cut us off from our distant ancestors, and left the human race racked with phobias, night terrors, xenophobia, and rampant racism. It destroyed everything, more than a few times, leaving survivors scattered and shattered, providing early writers, such as Homer and Plato, with the grist for their mills, enriching our lives with stories of heroes, great loves, titanic struggles, and a wide range of characters who defined the times and the places. Stories, poems, and ballads were based on stories told by the grandchildren of survivors. These were times of drastic change, from one generation to the next, of landscapes dramatically changed by massive earthquakes, epic storms and monumental uplifts, until a brave, new world emerged from the old.

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I love the world. I was literally searching for this exact information just now.

Kiwi Hellenist Thank you so much! For pronouncing Greek cities correctly! I just subscribed for that reason alone.

It's not an ethnic division but one of (1) core Greece, (2) peripheral insular "Greece" and (3) peripheral Thessalian "Greece". The latter two areas were actually ethnically mixed with Pelasgians and others, while core Greece was ethnically homogeneous after almost a whole millennium of Greek (Indoeuropean) domination. In the days of the Trojan War (and subsequent destruction of the Hittite Empire by the Phrygians and "sea peoples", led by the Danaoi = Denesh = LBA Greeks), the Peloponese was surely called Achaia (hence Achaeans = Ekwesh = Ahhiyawa), was the core of BA Greece and spoke the precursor dialect of Arcadio-Cypriot (not Ionian, Ionian seems to have been from Attica, while Aeolian was original of Boeotia and Dorian from the borderlands with Thessaly). A major detail of the Catalogue of ships that I find very interesting is the smallish contribution by Athens, which was clearly (both from legends and archaeology) already the second most important city of LBA Greece but seems for that very reason recalcitrant towards Mycenaean ("Argive") hegemony and keen to support their dynastic rivals: the Heraklids.

Thanks for the presentation. I hadn't thought much about the catalogue of ships before but I did read through it when I read a translation of the Iliad a few years ago. One thing I noticed from the Odyssey is that Homer seems to know something about the "sea people" invasions of Egypt based on the story that Menelaus tells Telemachus and also the story Odysseus tells the swineherd. Both stories are not far from the Egyptian accounts.

Great, at 62 I'm gonna have to read the Iliad and the Odyssey AGAIN!!! LOL. Well Done!

So all the pre-classical Mycenaeans, after the Trojan War, up and leave their city-states to migrate elsewhere? Why abandon sedentary life to become nomadic? Why abandon the established "High Kingdom" tributary relationship of the Wanax of that period that managed to launch all these ships? The Bronze Age Collapse had already passed by this point right?

Algorithm waited 2 years to send this video out?

This deserves a sub