There's a inspected/boxed on date on the ball box it comes in. But either way, a sand and repolish will fix it regardless, it's more or less just to let people know that if their ball isn't acting right, it's not the ball, it's a bad surface prep, and that can be fixed no matter what.

Nah, quite a bit different balls, I loved the Fate, Journey was stronger, much sharper, and a very different reaction shape.

Soon! I had them add it to my signature jersey list on Coolwick, so as soon as they get it built in, it'll be available!

You'll just have to watch for the sales, some of them get discounted instantly and some don't, some you have to wait a little on.

When I first started bowling I had a couple. I had the Curse and the orange Pathogen X. They were great out of the gate for me, but turned to paperweights when I changed the surface on them. They basically became burnt up lane balls or spare balls, so I got rid of them when I dropped to 15lbs. My wife also had a Curse and after changing the surface it became her spare ball. However, I also bought urethane Pathogen Plague ball and it was GREAT. The urethane I like better is the Black Hammer. . I have the Black Widow Urethane, Radical Double Cross, and the UC3 and I used to have a 16lb Purple Hammer. The Pathogen Plague reaction is very similar to the Black Hammer urethane. For me, the (Pink) Black Widow urethane is very strong. The Double Cross I like a lot too, but it definitely hooks more than the Black Hammer and Pathogen Plague urethane. I thought about buying another urethane Pathogen Plague, but went with the Black Hammer instead. I think they are very close reaction wise though and one is $55 bucks cheaper. One day I still might, but I will never buy another reactive resin ball from Pyramid- the covers do not do well with surface changes from my experiences.

I've tried a bit of everything with Pyramid balls. Not bad for the price, and some are really good despite the low price. The Pathogen Plague solid urethane is an amazing urethane ball for $90. Not Purple Hammer stronger... closer to IQ 78 territory, but much a better urethane for a house shot than the name brand urethanes. Can't recommend that ball highly enough for house shots. The Pathogen Asym is a Black Widow Solid level ball, at only $80. Not even kidding, that ball is so good for the price. The Path Rising balls aren't bad, basically Hustle level balls for $20 less... though I'd still pay extra for a Hustle. I also had a Blood Moon Rising Pearl, which is a pretty strong pearl asym for $120.

@@willjames6437 thanks for the info. Heck maybe for 129.00 it’s worth a try. I’ve fallen in average but due to injuries. Plus I’m a senior citizen..lol hitting towards 70 in January, but I can still throw a 15 and carry a 200. This past season I struggled due to heel, and bad forearm to the bicep muscle strain. Not fun at all. I went down to 14 and maybe that’s another reason I struggled…🤷🏻‍♀️

@@deadpolymers3416 thank you. I think I will give them a try for the price. Appreciate the info.

I remember a friend got the Blueprint and Blueprint Pearl?? Those were nice. They seem to be hit and miss for some people, but yeah for the price it'd be worth checking out probably.

I actually thought about that earlier tonight, I think it might get some holes pretty soon.

I agree. Well said. Cheers

Hustle performance for a blackout's price? No thank you.

​@@dragonman910 the lightning blackout does not roll like a hustle lol

It's not that far off, basically a Hustle core with a little stronger cover

@@LegendAzN1 I believe it also has AI technology, but still.

I really don't think this is going to be it, the shapes are different in addition to AI seeming to kind of slow it down, which it does to most balls. I think the Hammer Effect is the closest thing to the Altered that I've seen since.

@LukeRosdahl thanks! Luckily, I just drilled up a fresh Altered a couple of months ago, but I'm always looking for the next one since it is an all-time favorite, and they get harder and harder to find. The Harsh Pearl looks like it might he closer to an Exotic Gem replacement than anything else.

Yeah I could definitely see it looking good at both houses really, and for 2 handers since it just seems to be an asym TNT. I really haven't seen a single one in my area for anything lol.

Yeah . . I get the branding direction and I really like what they chose to do, but the cover naming has definitely taken a step backwards.

Track did this years ago with their 3,5,7,9 series. You had the T for traction the C for control and the A for angular. The last 2 numbers were the asymmetrical aspect of the ball. So a 915T was their strongest with traction and a 0.015 asymmetry. The 720C was control and 0.020 asymmetry. 505A…. Well you get the point. 900G isn’t a pioneer here with their numerical model, Track was.

@@robertwar7814 We weren't really discussing who started it, the point was that Global already had a good cover naming system. Track's system of using tech specs to name the ball was good, but a little too far. 607A was a goat tho . .

@@robertwar7814 just makes it easy for any new bowler to figure out which strong covers vs weak covers without having to deep diving because a brand came out with AI-Cohesion-HFS cover (which for most doesn't mean anything).

I don't think it's going to be that close, I think the Theorem is more of a bigger VEBO, and this one will be more like a stronger Halo Pearl.

Colors plus Reacta Gloss (yuck) if I had to guess...

Packy actually told me he was given some advice one time, he was told to learn to throw the ball hard, don't worry about how many revs you get on it or whatever, but as soon as he picked his speed up, they could then add the revs and roll back in. That sounds like a good suggestion to me, I'd try to pick your speed up but not worry about your revs or roll too much because you can bring that back in once you get your speed up.

Eternity is definitely a good step down from a Gem, the P2 would be more of a step sideways from the Eternity though. It's going to be earlier and smoother, but about the same strength.

@@LukeRosdahl ok I'm just trying to figure out the best arsenal possible for me. I have a gem and hyroad pearl. What 3 balls would you fit in between? Maybe eternity, xponent and Zen gold label?

@@LukeRosdahl or maybe a p2, gold label and IQ tour?

@@LukeRosdahl I play on a sport shot league. Heavy and flat. 29ml and 2.8:1 and below with different lengths. I throw a lot like Chris Barnes.

Well all 3 of those have been discontinued, so you might go for something like a Virtual Energy Blackout, Phaze 2, and XPonent Pearl

The Ultimate Defender is the more controllable of the two I think, or really the smoother one, it's more of a tumbly climbing reaction, and this is more of a sharper arc. The UD is better from straighter and I think this one will be better swinging the lane a little more, so it just depends on what fits for you better.

@@LukeRosdahl Thank you very much!!

I think so, the Harsh is really early and smooth, while this one even with surface seems to be pretty sharp, would be a couple strong balls, one smooth and one sharp.

@@LukeRosdahl Thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback! All the best to you🥳

Wha? You mean there was a void in there or it was just all filler material?

@@LukeRosdahl it was just filler material.

Nah, its really consistent. I'm sure there are some differences in the materials and manufacturing processes even if it's still the same formula on paper. Semtex was always one of the better ones from the Kentucky plant anyway.

Depends on what you're doing, plastic or urethane for drills are great because they can take the abuse. If you're practicing, just using older balls you don't use any more works well

@@LukeRosdahl I'm probably over-thinking things again. Currently still rolling a TZone, but was wondering if I should be getting a used reactive along with a new ball whenever that happens. Before any of that, my goal is to average 150 in league first...

This is why the whole pearl-hybrid-solid stuff doesn't work. I'm not sure what the reason is ultimately, but this happens quite a lot. The Hyped Hybrid was significantly heavier rolling than the solid or pearl also. Phaze 4 and 5 are the perfect examples, P4 is very early, chuggy, and heavy rolling, but the P5 was very clean, arcy and responsive. Same exact ball on paper.