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@FrancisFleuronas
@FrancisFleuronas 2 күн бұрын
Moongels and hit hard
@MostlyRenditions
@MostlyRenditions 3 күн бұрын
Well explained, thanks!
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 2 күн бұрын
Thank you as well!
@LawrenceLombardi
@LawrenceLombardi 9 күн бұрын
Just wanted to say great video! Really enjoy your teaching style. Thank you for this lesson.
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 9 күн бұрын
Thank you as well! It really means a lot
@rickfowler3710
@rickfowler3710 12 күн бұрын
Great video. I see you have the eq before the compressor. Wont the eq moves get soaked up by the compressor?
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 12 күн бұрын
Very good question, thank you for asking! In this case, no, they won't--these broad EQ filters are meant to shape the tone of the bass to where it balances right within the rest of the mix, and then the compressor is meant to lock that tone into place
@rickfowler3710
@rickfowler3710 12 күн бұрын
@@makeediblemusic Well it certainly sounds good. Thanks
@mehditayshun5595
@mehditayshun5595 15 күн бұрын
But how do you find the fundamental
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 15 күн бұрын
GREAT question, thank you for asking it! The fundamental frequency for a kick drum is usually between 40-75 Hz (sometimes up to 90 or 100 depending on the drum). If you sweep an EQ filter that's shaped like the one I boosted, starting from the higher area ~75 Hz and moving gradually downward to lower frequencies, you'll find a point that has a much more focused "thud" compared to the frequencies surrounding it. If that thud doesn't come forward, you might just need to boost that EQ filter a bit more and repeat--but it's there!
@CoinedIt
@CoinedIt 16 күн бұрын
My difficulty has been specific notes are very loud while some are normal volume. Not sure if this is a microphone problem or bass issue.
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 15 күн бұрын
It might be the instrument--but one thing you might try is to lower the clip gain of just those single notes that are very loud, to try and bring them to the same volume as the surrounding notes
@Dwolfmusic
@Dwolfmusic 16 күн бұрын
the red 2 eq doesn't have an input gain. How do i know i'm not clipping on the input?
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for getting in touch! A couple ways you could check--if you've just opened up the EQ with no adjustments yet and the meter on the top right of the plug-in stays lower than 0, then the level is in a good place. Otherwise, you could add your DAW's stock utility/gain plug-in before the EQ to bring the input level down or up if needed
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 16 күн бұрын
What's been frustrating you about mixing bass lately? Too loud? Too quiet? Something else?
@musagitar9539
@musagitar9539 16 күн бұрын
The title of song??
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 16 күн бұрын
This song is called "Long Way Home" by David Tyo--it's a good one!
@musagitar9539
@musagitar9539 16 күн бұрын
Yess mixing bass is difficult 😢😢
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 16 күн бұрын
Tell me about it!
@stravvman
@stravvman 17 күн бұрын
Averagizer
@klevgrand
@klevgrand 20 күн бұрын
Hi Scott! Great video :)
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 19 күн бұрын
Oh hello there!
@lofimat3856
@lofimat3856 21 күн бұрын
This my absolute FavTape Pluggy like it much betta then the DPS Aberantt wehich many like but this iss special sauce.
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 20 күн бұрын
Yes it's a fun one!
@elperro1953
@elperro1953 22 күн бұрын
dude say "now i set attack and release to the fastest" and turn buttons on slowest.. I am confused
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 22 күн бұрын
That's okay! Thank you for wondering. 1176 compressors have a quirk where the attack/release settings are opposite to other compressors. Usually, compressors are faster to the left and slower to the right. But 1176 compressor attack/release times are faster towards the right and slower towards the left
@elperro1953
@elperro1953 22 күн бұрын
@@makeediblemusic thank you for explonation..
@CoinedIt
@CoinedIt 28 күн бұрын
Beginner here. I'm very glad to stumble upon your channel!
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 27 күн бұрын
Me too! Let me know anywhere you start feeling stuck, I'll be glad to help
@Wargwarn
@Wargwarn Ай бұрын
Side chain
@seismotracker01
@seismotracker01 Ай бұрын
Is this just machine-calculated application of EQ?
@seismotracker01
@seismotracker01 Ай бұрын
Can someone explain why anyone ever would use this? I don't get it.
@BukanIbuMu
@BukanIbuMu 23 күн бұрын
It's a good tool for a newbie
@wasteghost
@wasteghost 2 ай бұрын
i've been searching for sample room sound video for some time and suddenly it appeared on my youtube home page. really cool approach for imitating real life reflections of room!
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic Ай бұрын
I'm glad you found me! It's a fun exploration process to layer and emphasize different reverbs
@wdinglis4
@wdinglis4 2 ай бұрын
It is my understanding that when using the internal sidechain, the whole signal still gets compressed. The internal sidechain only affects what triggers the compressor.
@Renaiz
@Renaiz 2 ай бұрын
Interesting and educative ❤
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 2 ай бұрын
Whew! The studio is HOT today
@dondafinallydropped
@dondafinallydropped 2 ай бұрын
How did u get these stems! I received them to practice mixing by a teacher
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 2 ай бұрын
They're from Cambridge, a great resource for practice! I share them with my students too
@MacEnstein
@MacEnstein 2 ай бұрын
Should you reuse it for a remaster that youve overdubbed instruments on?
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 2 ай бұрын
I haven't tried it out for that use case myself--but I expect it would be useful! In this video, I was surprised at how much the tone had changed with the plugin yet it still sounded clean. I think to get the overdubs to sit right it would be worth a try
@MacEnstein
@MacEnstein 2 ай бұрын
@@makeediblemusic Do you think you have to get technical with the plugin like you did, or just use universal and learn over the loudest part of the song is okay?
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 2 ай бұрын
@@MacEnstein Just universal would be a good idea, and then to choose a setting that fits best to keep it quick and easy
@MacEnstein
@MacEnstein 2 ай бұрын
@@makeediblemusic thank you, sir
@aipsong
@aipsong 2 ай бұрын
Excellent!Thanks
@EdwinDekker71
@EdwinDekker71 2 ай бұрын
5:45 the way I understand it is the knee gets sharper at higher ratios. Btw attack time typically ranges from 20 to 800 microseconds, the "slowest" attack is under one millisecond! Atb
@ryanking8714
@ryanking8714 2 ай бұрын
AMAZING PLUGIN - VERY SLEPT ON
@darkcharmrecords
@darkcharmrecords 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, gonna try this
@user-pq9ub1py9r
@user-pq9ub1py9r 3 ай бұрын
where do you put balancer if you have many plug ins in your track? first or last? please reply thank you
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 3 ай бұрын
GREAT question--place it first, or perhaps second if you need an initial EQ to filter out some frequencies that aren't helping the sound: areas like deep low-end rumble, or noises that aren't part of the music
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 3 ай бұрын
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@secretarchivesofthevatican
@secretarchivesofthevatican 3 ай бұрын
Super useful. Thank you.
@cinex5114
@cinex5114 3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you and your educating content! Greetings from Germany
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Fabian! Let me know of anything you're working on learning and I'll look forward to giving some help
@cinex5114
@cinex5114 3 ай бұрын
@@makeediblemusic actually the principal of compression stages in a production. I always hear in professional tracks a lot of pressure and cohesion. Maybe it's because the groups and parallel processing of groups...it can't be done with one compressor that's for sure.
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 3 ай бұрын
You're definitely on the right track when thinking about group- and parallel processing. And those are in addition to individual channel processing, plus compression and limiting during the mastering stage. It's compression galore, though they're applied differently at each stage
@Dylanklinemusic
@Dylanklinemusic 3 ай бұрын
nice video - thanks!
@sfisodlamini54
@sfisodlamini54 3 ай бұрын
I overlooked it usually as I had no idea what was going on, I'll try to use it more often.
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 3 ай бұрын
It's worth experimenting with! Might make some steps easier
@wyrlismike
@wyrlismike 3 ай бұрын
Very slow attack time? Under 1ms isn't generally considered very slow, 1176 only has two attack times, fast and faster
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 3 ай бұрын
Haha v true - here very slow is relative only to very, very fast in this case
@nicefish10
@nicefish10 4 ай бұрын
Tip number one… Use the real thing. Don’t use plug ins.
@Elliott.Revell
@Elliott.Revell 4 ай бұрын
Wanna share that infinite money glitch?
@EdwinDekker71
@EdwinDekker71 2 ай бұрын
Why? Have you ever done a blind test in a mix? Bet you can't tell the difference.
@Lennie_peled
@Lennie_peled 2 ай бұрын
@@EdwinDekker71 yeah most of those who say it are stuck in the past
@Itsyaboy88
@Itsyaboy88 4 ай бұрын
Bro do simple videos like this on whatever or all plugins and you’ll be KZfaq famous. This was epic simple and extremely informative. GREAT WORK.
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I definitely think I'll do some more--let me know if there are any plugins you'd like to see
@vroge3275
@vroge3275 4 ай бұрын
Great explanation of how to work with the 1176. Cheers.
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 4 ай бұрын
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@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 4 ай бұрын
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@derrekclay7425
@derrekclay7425 4 ай бұрын
Great advice. Your approach is solid
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad it's helpful
@jbason_01
@jbason_01 5 ай бұрын
I disagree on a high frequency cut on the kick drum. Many times the 5-15k has tons of attack and click nessecary for the kick to stand out in the mix
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 5 ай бұрын
Good advice! You're right that's often a useful area to emphasize the clicky beater--in this case, I think the kick was mic'd outside of the drum, so it was too far away to capture that attack (partly why the hi-hat bleed got in there as well). But as you said, if those kick drum frequencies are present, then finding an area to boost makes a great difference. Thank you!
@brucewayne251
@brucewayne251 5 ай бұрын
4:29 Help me! I’m seeing things🥶
@voltagetoe
@voltagetoe 5 ай бұрын
sorry, but this sounds very reverby/muddy/crawling/distant.
@mattbarachko5298
@mattbarachko5298 5 ай бұрын
Why it’s important to mix in context & not soloed
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 5 ай бұрын
That's okay! Actually why I chose them, to identify and pose some of the problems that can make drums difficult. Thank you!
@timtownesschweiger5366
@timtownesschweiger5366 5 ай бұрын
Really cool to see your step by step process, thanks for the video!
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 5 ай бұрын
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@fredfox3851
@fredfox3851 5 ай бұрын
Great breakdown and demonstration. I've been at this a loooong time. Compression is still the biggest mystery, and the hardest concept to grasp. The line between enhancing and ruining a sound is so subjective, I often find myself second guessing my decisions. Thanks.
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 5 ай бұрын
I understand that so well--compression can feel very slippery and difficult to control. I think it's the way that all the parameters depend on each other, but also that there are so many ways to use it! Once the intricacies start to become clearer, it becomes a super useful tool for mixing
@dsanj4745
@dsanj4745 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting! SSL bus compressors and their emulations (both hardware and software) are ubiquitous for sure. The addition of high-pass sidechain filters on some emulations increases their usefulness. I never had any use for the fade in/out feature. DAW automation makes it irrelevant in my opinion.
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 5 ай бұрын
Thank you as well! Agreed on the fade features--it's nice for the faithful emulation, but I'm usually content to program the automation myself
@jetlag_beats
@jetlag_beats 5 ай бұрын
You have done an excellent video on the subject here. Great and very clear explanation, suitable for anyone who might be new to this principle as well. I would advice also to listen to the video on a pair of good studio headphones, to make sure to notice the subtle but very audible differences.
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes, capable monitoring systems are a really great help especially for subtler adjustments
@Groove81TV
@Groove81TV 5 ай бұрын
Nah not the waves one . * The Glue .
@makeediblemusic
@makeediblemusic 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that's also a v good one!