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@jaredmalcolm1
@jaredmalcolm1 23 сағат бұрын
Could you do another experiment that tests the productivity of the different values? Maybe a few hives that are as similar as possible in building comb/etc. Feed one give the 1:1, another 1:2, etc. then at the end gauge comb buildout/etc. I love that they take the syrup down quickly but if it isn’t triggering productivity…is it worth doing?
@wrightestatesalesllc2108
@wrightestatesalesllc2108 Күн бұрын
looking to move to coastal Florida... was wondering about honey bees on the coast... how they weather over the milder Florida winters... a varrilla mites
@Ooo-vz3jd
@Ooo-vz3jd Күн бұрын
Thanks for replies. Question...have 10 hives in same corner of property, how far away from the hives do I place the feeder? I mixed 1:1 but actually added a bit more water to make it 1:1.2 .
@hopesadler4000
@hopesadler4000 2 күн бұрын
Chuck. I tried 1:4 in an open feeder and they took 3 gallons in a little over an hour. Definitely will continue using it.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 2 күн бұрын
Great news.
@gregnelson1295
@gregnelson1295 3 күн бұрын
My mistake we watch the video and you did say how many strips
@gregnelson1295
@gregnelson1295 3 күн бұрын
Didn't mention in the video how many strips were in the bag. How many strips do you put in the bag so that the solution isn't too much or too little
@robertselfridge3690
@robertselfridge3690 4 күн бұрын
Great news if 1-1 sugar water can be mixed at 3 parts water to 1 part sugar $$$ 👍also I’m in st. Augustine, as of today 7/3/24 my girls are NOT taking any sugar water(1-1), nor are they even remotely interested in my drawn combs ? Honey is super light color, VERY good honey harvest this year, maybe best in my 7 years 👍🇺🇸
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 4 күн бұрын
Great news, thanks for the comment.
@jeremyferri1902
@jeremyferri1902 5 күн бұрын
Question, just out of curiosity, the dead hive has beetles in it and you laid it out for other bees to rob. Could those small hive beetles transfer onto the bees robbing and then into their hive? Infecting the robbing bees hives with small hive beetles?
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 5 күн бұрын
SHB don't transfer like varroa on the bees. So no that's not how they move around. They can fly!
@stefano1844
@stefano1844 6 күн бұрын
I tried a couple of days ago with 1:2, they devoured it in no time. Thanks for your experiments!
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 5 күн бұрын
Glad you found it helpful.
@caven930
@caven930 9 күн бұрын
I'm scared to use nitrile gloves. Do you ever get stung through them?
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 8 күн бұрын
Yes I do get a few stings through them, but not many. And to pull the stingers out you just snap the rubber on the glove.
@CarlBroady-j5h
@CarlBroady-j5h 9 күн бұрын
Is this the product XenTari BT DF ? A caterpillar insecticide of Bacillus thuringiensis aizawai
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 9 күн бұрын
Thats it.
@CarlBroady-j5h
@CarlBroady-j5h 9 күн бұрын
Is this the product you are referring to?
@KambizNazir
@KambizNazir 10 күн бұрын
I liked this video because you used grams.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 9 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@hopesadler4000
@hopesadler4000 10 күн бұрын
Very timely video, Chuck. I've been using 1:1.5 and was going thinner. I'm giving the 1:4 a try.
@johnbonds5084
@johnbonds5084 10 күн бұрын
Great video. Helps me understand the process better. Hope to set up some of these next year.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 10 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@craigkirich9646
@craigkirich9646 11 күн бұрын
Hi Chuck. Bob found an extensive study out of India on syrup dilution and effect. This was a bout 4 years ago. It showed that 1:2 was the best brood and comb building. 1:3 did well in the summer. I've been doing it the last 3 years and works well for me in the northeast as our springs are VERY slow... You attending expo?
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for the note. Which expo are you speaking about?
@craigkirich9646
@craigkirich9646 10 күн бұрын
@@chuckshoneybees THE EXPO. ;) The one in Louisville first week of January. It's like nothing else and all the UTube creators are expected to show. Nah just 90%. Being around 2500 Beekeepers is something else. The deals (bring cash- no tax) are fantastic. Coming in 2 SUV's this year to load up. If you're into fine dining they have some awesome restaurants. I do my research :)
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 10 күн бұрын
@@craigkirich9646 I would like to attend next year. I have never been before. MIght have to drive the Cybertruck to haul stuff home.
@craigkirich9646
@craigkirich9646 10 күн бұрын
@@chuckshoneybees Oh for sure! I would love to ride in one. It's on my list but a couple years way. The people are just fantastic, the speakers very informative and of course the deals! I found a "tiny" James Beard award wining chef's restaurant, sooo pretentious it's a fantastic event. If you're never been to one, it's memorable to say the least.
@curiouscoy492
@curiouscoy492 11 күн бұрын
Nice to find you in Jacksonville, FL. I am "up the road a piece" in coastal GA so our beekeeping seasons are similar.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 11 күн бұрын
Welcome to the channel!
@davezman2295
@davezman2295 11 күн бұрын
Hey Chuck. Love the video
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 11 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@michaelshelnutt3534
@michaelshelnutt3534 11 күн бұрын
I believe Frederick Dunn has done a similar thing, and concluded the bees will go after the highest carbs. This doesn’t test anything about comb building- which you stated. You would have to set up different hives with different concentrations and judge the differences.
@MinnesotaBeekeeper
@MinnesotaBeekeeper 11 күн бұрын
Depends on what you are trying to get the hive to do.
@tommywise1702
@tommywise1702 11 күн бұрын
I have been using 1- 1.5 for a while. Bees from a swarm catch do take it better and seem to brood up and recover faster. I have no data to support that statement, just what I see.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for the data point.
@bradwamsley3465
@bradwamsley3465 11 күн бұрын
Would like to see 1.5:1 and 2:1 as well.
@apatriot1762
@apatriot1762 11 күн бұрын
What I’ve you stack the jars to throw of their gps
@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping
@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping 11 күн бұрын
Started using this just recently myself. If you read the forums on this you will find tons of posts about outdated products and horror stories of failed applications, however on the whole it seems like a perfect solution and much easier than all other methods.. I personally purchased my Xentari from 7 Springs Farm. When I received it I could not find an expiration date, only a lot number. Based on posts where people had this same issue and they contacted the manufacturer of the product they were able to get several lot numbers and their correlating expiration date. So when I got my bag I got the lot number and contacted the manufacturer and got the expiration date. From those numbers I was able to determine how to determine the production date based off the lot number. (First 3 number of Lot number) - 249 = Months since January of 2015 Then find a date calculator and add "Months since January of 2015" number to 1/1/2015 and you will have your production date. For example, my Lot number is 332. 332-249=83. 83 months after 1/1//2015 means my production date is December of 2021. This was confirmed with the producer. According to what I have read this product IF stored at optimal conditions has a "Retest date" of 3 years after the production date... so that could be considered its expiration date of sorts. I have heard of people saying this product if stored properly is good for anywhere from 3 to 10 years.... so it is hard to say. Since my product that I received was going on 2.5 years since production I contacted 7 Springs to inform them of what all I had found, and how to determine date of production. There were very cooperative and offered to either provide me with fresh product once they got this sorted out or a full refund. They were very apologetic and have since kept me in the loop with what they have found out from the producer of the product and will be sending me out a fresh supply once Valent replaces their current stock.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 11 күн бұрын
Wow. Very good information and research on the lot number to production date. Thanks for this.
@johnboec3
@johnboec3 11 күн бұрын
You have outdone yourself with all that info .... Thanks lots
@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping
@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping 11 күн бұрын
@@johnboec3 I try my best to provide as much information as possible so everyone can make an informed decision. 7 Springs has been great in dealing with this product.
@Zuconja
@Zuconja 11 күн бұрын
Ok, so 1:1 (1 kg water : 1 kg sugar) is the thickest and 1:6 is the thinnest (1 kg water : 0,16 kg sugar)? Am I getting it right?
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 11 күн бұрын
Yep. One part sugar, 6 parts water is 1:6
@Zuconja
@Zuconja 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for replying and for the video. Now I'm ready for summer dearth here in Serbia.
@zelezobeton
@zelezobeton 11 күн бұрын
Nice info… keep in mind joung bees don’t make wax
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 11 күн бұрын
Not sure what you mean, but most research shows that house bees less than 20 days old are the bees that produce the wax. This research states that the maximum wax production is by bees that are 9 days old. www.umdbeelab.com/updates/factors-that-affect-wax-production-in-honey-bees
@LisaBaker-cb7bg
@LisaBaker-cb7bg 11 күн бұрын
Another interesting experiment! Love it!
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 11 күн бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@jamesbarron1202
@jamesbarron1202 11 күн бұрын
I wonder if climate (heat and humidity) will change their preference. Under high humidity, I’d think they’d go for a thicker syrup so humidity isn’t so high inside the hive.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 11 күн бұрын
Lots of variables. Good point.
@pastormike1971
@pastormike1971 12 күн бұрын
Great video!! So interesting, 1:4 could save alot of money!! I am going to try this and see if there is any change. Just subscribed to your channel !! Cant wait to see your other videos !!
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Love to have your feedback and experience with your feeding changes.
@jimrichard7296
@jimrichard7296 12 күн бұрын
A little food coloring to find if any is being stored?
@richard_wenner
@richard_wenner 12 күн бұрын
LOVED your scientific approach. LOVED the fact that you use grams as a unit. NOT SO HAPPY that you would not publish your video, if the experiment failed!!! We all learn from our mistakes. Thanks for this :)
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
What I meant was, if the bee's drank the syrup at the same rate, I probably would have adjusted the ratio's and filmed again. I have been trying to get this test out for a while now. I don't mind posting unexpected or poor results, but I wanted it to show something :) Thanks for the feedback.
@mikewright7048
@mikewright7048 12 күн бұрын
Hey, Chuck. Thanks for the video! Where do you buy your bottles from? I have used Amazon in the past, but I was looking to purchase in bulk this year. Thanks again for all the info. It's been super helpful to those in this area.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
I use regular mouth mason jars for my honey, and I usually purchase them on Amazon, Walmart, or sometimes Target. Where ever I can get the best prices.
@nedheadwyoming
@nedheadwyoming 12 күн бұрын
Very Interesting
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
Glad you think so!
@joelgillespie1412
@joelgillespie1412 12 күн бұрын
As hot as it is here in nebraska, I figure they need more water anyway.
@CooperBees
@CooperBees 12 күн бұрын
Thank for the experiment
@JawandoOokomondo-cb7fm
@JawandoOokomondo-cb7fm 12 күн бұрын
Calories are calories . This is dumb Just feed them 1-1 and if they need to add water theh will. Good try People way overthink
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
Sorry, but I disagree with you. If you were correct, we would feed 2:1 or higher year round, but we don't because it is known it takes more energy to digest and turn 2:1 into food for brood, and they don't generate wax, and it takes more bees to fetch the water for dilution. So there is something to the ratio to learn here.
@Ooo-vz3jd
@Ooo-vz3jd 11 күн бұрын
Agreed. In Michigan nectar flow and season is shorter. Don't want bees to have added unnecessary work to dilute thicker syrup.
@trevormorris2328
@trevormorris2328 12 күн бұрын
This was a good experiment
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@dannyh982
@dannyh982 12 күн бұрын
I put a 25lb bag in a 27 gallon tote fill the tote almost to the top with water, and a splash of vinegar and mix with a drill throw straw on it and call it a day.
@steveo1006
@steveo1006 12 күн бұрын
Ah, the open feeding controversy has started
@russellkoopman3004
@russellkoopman3004 12 күн бұрын
Chuck, one use of your experiment could be for beeks that are feeding during the dearth so they aren't robbing so much. The 1 to 4 syrup would make 4 times as much feed that would keep the bees busy for a much longer time. On the one to one, because it is thicker the bees would have a harder time pulling it out of those little holes. I wonder what results you would have if you used four open feeders with straw on top?
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
Good thoughts. I am not sure I agree with the thickness causing a slower consumption. Because the gravity keeps a drop at the bottom from which the bees consume. So they don't really pull it out, it falls out and they lick it up.
@johnboec3
@johnboec3 12 күн бұрын
Loved it. We need more people to do these kinds of tests. ... Thank you Would love to see it go farther
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@MongoosePreservationSociety
@MongoosePreservationSociety 12 күн бұрын
Chuck, can we get some close ups of the holes in your lid? Ive tried different size holes and keep losing all my sugar water! Tried watching your old videos but still can't get it right. Thanks as always!
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
They are small little holes made by a nail you might hang a small picture with. Probably 1mm hole. The size of the hole should not matter that much as long as there is a seal on the lid when you close it.
@SylantBill
@SylantBill 12 күн бұрын
Great experiment
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@beewagyu
@beewagyu 12 күн бұрын
Chuck The India s did the study they came up with 1:1.3 Been using it a while. The point is 2hat they do with it not just the rate they takeit up. They brood much better and draw comb much better as it seems to be Clos to an average nectar flow somewhat. Try that. And read the Univ of India study I r honk
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for the reference!
@tmcuevs7988
@tmcuevs7988 12 күн бұрын
Yep i use this ratio too. got it from bob binnie video
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 12 күн бұрын
The problem with that study is that they stopped there, and didn't investigate how much thinner might be good. Maybe 1:1.5 is better?
@westoneckert
@westoneckert 12 күн бұрын
The experiment we all want! Thank you
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 12 күн бұрын
Glad to do it.
@beebob1279
@beebob1279 13 күн бұрын
When you store the frames and boxes after treating, do you wait for it to dry or do you store right away while it's still wet?
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 13 күн бұрын
I usually let it dry, but I don't think that is required.
@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping
@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping 11 күн бұрын
If you store them wet you stand the chance for mold, let them air dry stacked on their sides prior to storage.
@robertlewis3336
@robertlewis3336 14 күн бұрын
This stuff has been a game-changer for me. It works.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the report of success.
@StanGore-mk8ow
@StanGore-mk8ow 14 күн бұрын
is this the same product as Certan?? also how long does the spray last on the comb??--thanks!! great video!
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 14 күн бұрын
I just looked on Dadant's website at Certan, and it does look like it has the same active culture with the BT aizawai strain. I do this after every extraction, so once a year, or twice on the supers I put on our short fall flow.
@StanGore-mk8ow
@StanGore-mk8ow 14 күн бұрын
Thanks
@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping
@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping 11 күн бұрын
Certan I believe is 5 ounces of liquid BTa. Where as Xentari is 1 pound of "Dry flowable" (powder) BTa. Both after shipping cost about $40. However Certan makes about 1 gallon, where as Xentari Bta is one pound of powder and will make approximately 108 gallons of product at 1 teaspoon per gallon (minimum mix I have seen), or 27 gallons at the max mix of 4 teaspoons per gallon.
@StanGore-mk8ow
@StanGore-mk8ow 11 күн бұрын
You think it’s brings the same results?? ​@@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping
@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping
@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping 11 күн бұрын
@@StanGore-mk8ow It is the same biological, just in a different form. So yes. With Xentari I believe you would be applying at a far greater dosage and so probably a bit more effective and far less expensive. Just make sure you reference my other comment on this video about ensuring your product is not expired and how to determine the production date
@sallydensmore8031
@sallydensmore8031 14 күн бұрын
Will the queen lay in these frames after they have been sprayed with the BT? Will the larva be ok?
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 14 күн бұрын
Absolutely.
@jerrykey9053
@jerrykey9053 14 күн бұрын
Can you please send the link im not able to find this on Amazon.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 14 күн бұрын
I put a link in the description. It apparently isn't on Amazon at the moment.
@LisaBaker-cb7bg
@LisaBaker-cb7bg 14 күн бұрын
I really like that you cover topics that I don’t see from other sites Chuck.
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for that feedback. I appreciate it.
@steveo1006
@steveo1006 15 күн бұрын
Hmmm, in the earlier video (a year ago) you stated 2 tsp/gallon but now you say 4tsp/ gallon. What changed?
@chuckshoneybees
@chuckshoneybees 14 күн бұрын
haha..That is interesting, I just read the label on the jar I used last year. I don't think this is an exact science. I would just follow the label on the bag. If I am causing confusion I apologize. This is not a chemical being diluted, it is a live culture being added to water.
@steveo1006
@steveo1006 12 күн бұрын
I did see someone had done some complex math and worked it down from the lbs/acre commercial usage to vol/gallon bee usage. Sadly I didn’t save it and my old memory didn’t retain it.