Does Phone Guy die? It's implied something bad was happening. We know from the banging the animatronics are breaking in, and PG asks Mike to check the back. The back being parts and service? Where the animatronics can't go? Was the PG's plan to run to parts and service and hide in a springlock costume of which PG trained the staff in the correct way to wear them, until Mike could get back to check on him?

In FNAF 4 the girl outside talks about this, as well as Phone Guy later on. Both know of the Springlock costumesas having space for a child to go. The Fazbear Frights story "The New Kid", there's room for a teenager. Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy are animatronics, no compartment. Their heads were placed on the children's shoulders as their bodies by Puppet, not bodies.

Difficult topic although see my video "The Original Five Nights At Freddy's Trilogy". It's the 'separate continuities' discussion.

According to the Character Encyclopedia; Crying Child is the one having the nightmares in FNAF 4. He is also eye level to a door knob, showing his height. The story of Dittophobia recreates the room at the rental facility and is used by the community to explain Mike Afton knowing nightmare Freddy's appearance; I see Fredbear plush sharing the memory with Mike during Sister Location, see video "The Character Encyclopedia and Mike Afton". Mike Afton as the character in FNAF 1-3 comes from 'fired for odor' not the only answer, see video "Phone Guy is the Hero".

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadnessalso 5 and 6

It’s legit obvious who you are in fnaf 5 and 6

Mike is in Sister Location, Pizzeria Simulator and likely Ultimate Custom. I also think he was retconned as the guard in FNAF 3.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadnessucn is William

The track I used is "Atlantis" by Audionautix. It's available from the KZfaq Audio Library. I also think it sounds familiar. I've got a dozen tracks I can choose from.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness oh I get them mixed up sometimes since both were used by the youtuber whos theory videos I watched lol, also I just have a playlist for theory music and both are there lol (the playlist is on my channel) Did you know that this music is also called “anders baldwin - soft hearted”?

You understand me right. My separation doesn't come from books and games differing but which games/books go together. I'm working on a script now that covers FNAF 1-3 is the original, then up-to UCN is second, then the HW2 is third. The continuity comes from release dates of source material; not the medium they are made.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness Okay, that works for the games and Frights/Tales, Scott leaves it up to us. But, it doesn't work for the Silver Eyes trilogy, which are canon to the franchise but explicitly not the same continuity. Sure ideas and themes are either the same or parallel eachother but, for example, there's no Charlie Puppet which must mean you can't place them on the same timeline. Do you get what I mean? You can't have Charlie-Bot and Charlie-Puppet in the same sequence of events to stick with that example. It works with the rest of the books, just not that trilogy.

My video "Charlie & Charlotte are different characters" covers this. You can't have Charlie-bot without Charlotte processing Puppet. The Ella doll inside of Charlie is connected with Charlotte. The doll connects the spirit of the dead with the living (animatronic). This I think is nedium-ship which I spoke about in "Fredbear plush is important". A better example of different characters would have been Henry. A fake Henry dying in Silver Eyes would need to be convincingly dead, and able to bleed. Just like the animatronic Henry made in Charlie. If Henry made one more, and wanted to spare Charlie his ongoing remorse; an animatronic of him would need to be stabbed and leave the blood at the base of the stairs. As long as the Sheriff doesn't investigate too much. Henry leaves the animatronic to the grave and moves on leaving Charlie to his sister Jen.

I'm more of a book reader than a player. It's good to know YT is suggesting my videos.

Point is, there are MANY Springbonnie suits, every version of Springtrap we've seen so far are all different Springbonnie suits, there are tons more.

@@aminethbt885 Every copy of Springbonnie is personalized

It would be a good story narratively, sins of the father coming back for the son. Although the springlock Bonnie and Freddy heads don't have a separation line down the middle. It's more likely something intended for the Circus Baby restaurant.

I've thought that once Fredbear got possessed in 1985 then we called it Golden Freddy. Although in FNAF 4 seeing a bear on stage and Henry(?) in the Fredbear costume would suggest two. I was thinking about it while writing this video. I'll think about it some more and do something in the future.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness thanks

I guess William liked being a animatronic.

@@DoesEvilAWSHUKThingsGuyCIR-m8d With metal rods dug into his flesh with wires replacing his veins and having circuitry and a battery pack where his organs should be? Cuz id rather be crucified than dealing with that.

This is partially correct While the books are non canon, you can take elements and slot them into the canon, which is exactly what Scott has said

@@novawolf_gaming even if that was true it still states springtrap just got *Some* Parts then turned into scrap trap

@Levisworld9 Oh yeah, I don't agree with this guy at all 😂😂 It was stated that William rebuilt his suit from spare parts, thus creating Scraptrap

So let's get the source material involved. If the reddit post "Is the book canon?" is what we are talking about then it was written because "reviews on Amazon chastise the book [Silver Eyes] for not matching the games". FNAF 1-3 was considered the "original story" in Dawko and Scott's interview. FNAF 4 and the novels differ from early games because "sometimes the lore of something can become so crowded that you can't tell an original story anymore". The books aren't "intended to fit together like two puzzle pieces", although "the book is canon, just as the games are". "The book is a re-imagining of the FNAF story..." [FNAF 1-3]. As I'm using the novels and Scraptrap then I'm clearly using the revised continuity. Something I'm looking into now is what the first three games lore was compared to the games and stories that followed. I don't have a quote from the Fazbear Frights range so if you know of one then please direct me to it.

I was referring to the The Silver Eyes graphic novel. The illustrated adaptation published in December 2019. Today it costs about the same as a Tales from the Pizzaplex book.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness Thank you!

Quick answer - I do believe the theories I give. Detailed answer - I believe that the games and books are set in the same universe. I've read the reddit post in 2015 about separate continuities and believe that was a response to poor book reviews for The Silver Eyes novel. The Ultimate Guide also doesn't refer to that post, even though the book is targeted at getting new fans up to speed with the theorist community.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness that's fair, the separate continuities quote has been doing a ton of legwork for theorists since it came out. I'm not convinced that the Fazbear Frights books are in game canon but I'd love to see a timeline that connects the games (esp sister location) to those books. I'll have to go back and re-watch your older videos to get a fuller perspective on your view, though I think you should remake your oldest videos that you think hold up, specifically anything you had AI voice and art in. It's really distracting and a lot of people have ethical problems with the way the technology is used and developed, so they'll bug out as soon as they notice. You have some really interesting ideas and I hope your channel blows the F up.

There is also a theory that William used parts of golden Freddy to fix his suit. This would line up with the fact that his upper jaw looks a lot like the one that golden Freddy has. Also this could have been the part where cassidy attached herself to Williams soul and when he was weak enough after the fire she put him in to the UCN coma.

The use of Golden Freddy also helps to explain how Cassidy moved on and became the Princess. So that's understandable. Small clue though; Scraptrap has large rabbit teeth, the FNAF 3 Bonnie costume doesn't, neither does Golden Freddy. While William was falling apart he finds and installs some rabbit teeth? If its William's costume then they come with it.

Are you comparing 1980's Bonnie to FNAF 3 Springtrap? Different hues in games change the colour of characters. FNAF 3 dark green, Pizzeria Simulator amber, Security Breach red.

This is the "Is the book canon?" discussion from Scott in 2015. I disagree with the communities explanation, instead read it as referring to story and character arcs. The post was written in response to the books not solving FNAF 4. Each game Scott releases hasn't solved the previous games; and the novel was no exception.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness well if u disagree with a fact then, hate to tell u ur wrong

Scott has explained that the Movie's lore is different from the other canons.

You're right. I just looked it up. I must have remembered it wrong. I guess rather than Fazbear Entertainment trying to reduce liability for Jeremy's injuries it was the first time Phone Guy used the firing to help employees avoid the dangerous workplace?

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadnessAlso…besides the many other stuff I (respectfully) disagree with. One thing that kinda caught me off guard is the fact that people think we play as Mike and UCN.😅

Don't stop there. How about the VR system of the Pizzaplex? A world so real that in "Under Construction" Maya would experience a year in the simulation.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness could explain why the world gets more and more digital when you go into the deeper layers of Fnaf World. That mixed with the AR world mechanic in Ruin behaving very similarly. Perhaps the Pit acts as a portal or gateway to “The Flipside” in a similar way to the Vanny Mask in Ruin. Although the mask is much weaker version of a gateway considering you can still see some of the surrounding real world.

There's no business here, its just a hobby. There is an email address on the main page otherwise the comment section.

So the boy kept the snake in a metal cage. Did Henry keep William in the restaurant, or the Springlock? And the five kittens (children) being brought inside knowing the snake (William) would kill. So Henry was guilty for allowing William to commit the crime? The Henry and William parallel is good and evil; but this is Candy Cadet's story. What were we told?

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness That Henry knew, maybe he was the one to dispose of the bodies, then when he found William spring locked, ordered the sealing of those rooms

OMG! Henry lured the children in so William could murder them! It was a duo!

Then go further with the insanity ending of Pizzeria Simulator. "Small souls trapped in prisons of my making" - Henry's talking about his deeds, not his inventions! Also, "A wound first inflicted on me, but then one that I left bleed out to cause all of this" - It started after Charlotte. And during the Silver Eyes "Not only did Clay knew he was the murderer, but the entire department knew it was him. All the evidence indicated that William was the culprit, but the absence of bodies set him free" - Everyone was wrong, it was them both!

If William was Scraptrap in Pizzeria Simulator then how does the line work... "What a deceptive calling. I knew it was a lie, the moment I heard it, obviously. But it is intriguing nonetheless"? Did William know Henry was offering victims in the last Fazbear restaurant? Elizabeth seemed to think so. Lines like "I heard your call" and "...This was a gift, for us. You gathered them all together in one place, just like he asked you to". Did William organize this?

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness I just took it as more of a showboating thing. At this point he believes he’s invincible. He thinks he’s better than everyone. He’s survived multiple burnings at this point. He genuinely believes himself to be immortal. He’s acting like he’s ten steps ahead of everyone else even if that’s not the case. The way he says “obviously” gives off a petulant smarter than thou attitude. (Similar to the Symmetry my friend line from the movie) Either he knew something was up and went anyway thinking he’d be completely fine or he truly has no idea what he’s talking about and is just full of it.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness would also point at that Henry might have given different lies to get each animatronic to the building taking advantage of each spirits specific desires to lure them. After all he didn’t even bother tricking Charlie he just straight up captured her there’s no indication or atleast I think there’s no indication that Henry kept his story straight for all of them. All he needed was them in the building and he was willing to say or do anything to make sure they would all be there.

I've been on the ID's Fantasy forum before and found I had little time to contribute. I'm also in a different time zone so I tended to leave essay length posts and not got back to them until days later. I can't imagine I'll be too big a contributor as YT and work keep me busy. You can leave the name to find the discord in the comments and I'll try to get to it.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness can I get your discord name so I can add you

I had to create one so it's now... Menageriemadness_21461

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness nice

And for a better explanation I first mentioned that in my "Understanding FNAF 4" video.

Yes, he's no saint. But he's not an abusive drunk and never was depicted as such

I don't think of Henry as every being an abusive drunk. I think Jr's was a bar, green guy a bouncer. I suspect Henry turned to alcohol to suppress his feelings of guilt. Going home, banging on the door of a child who's actions reflect on Henry being the monster. But no abuse. Henry does have a reference in the Fourth Closet as pouring his rage into the adult Charlie animatronic; so he does express intense emotion.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness of course he does. He's human. Still, we never saw Henry being actually angry or intense with someone, especially recently traumatized child (as your theory states)

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness and I don't know about the whole alcohol thing. What kind of guilt he was trying to suppress? I saw some of your videos and I know that you have some interesting and unique takes so maybe the answer lies there. But as far as I know, at this point in the timeline nothing happened to him that would make him feel guilty. The bite is objectively Michael's fault, and Henry even in the novels was always strict about his children messing with machinery (that being springlocks), so I think he would not feel responsible for something like that. Also his wife and son should still be with him at this point, and Charlotte is alive (at least before Midnight Motorist)

When I started my own timeline years ago I realized Charlotte's death required William to not be working alone. That theory became my "It's not William Afton's plan" video which lead me to who is was. Then I wrote "Who haunts the Spring Bonnie costume". FYI - I made use of the Silver Eyes reference as a foundation to this theory, so you'll either accept it or not based on that.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness IDK why he couldn't just drive by and kill her

Because driving by and finding Charlotte would be a coincidence. And that doesn't make for good story telling. As Fredbear remembers feeding children pizza, that could be dinner time. When staff would be busy and distracted. A coordinated plan is premeditation and makes for a more malicious crime.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness seems like a stretch. The coincidental killing to me is more likely than Springbonnie being some kind of entity way back in 2014 before we were even introduced to the idea in the second book series.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness I disagree here, sometimes a coincidence makes for excellent storytelling. Depending on who we assume died first and what made Afton start killing, just happening to drive up while his business partner and friend's daughter is trapped outside the restaurant rather than some other random child could be just the incident to start the whole murderball rolling. It wouldn't even have to have been premeditated to be super malicious, just the need to hurt Henry, to take something so important to him that he'd set the Security Puppet to keep an extra special eye out. Also, what do you mean about Fredbear remembering feeding children pizza?

This. Also the fact that even THE MOVIES are merging Mike's character with Charliebot from the books is also pointing towards this. Of course, it could be just: A) a coincidence or B) mocking of the Mikebot theory from Scott, the way he mocks the dreamtheory but honestly, its just too suspicious thatt everything is starting to point at it more and more.

@@chararaltacc yea I realized Mikebot was cannon the moment I saw Curse of Dreadbear no way that was a coincidence

@@nathanielgarza9198Haven’t heard anyone discuss Mikebot in atleast a good year, most people have just accepted that Foxybro is Michael and completely disregarded the theory that BV was rebuilt as a robot and is named Mike. Honestly I think Foxybro is a better canidate for being Mike since it adds a motive for his actions in the story, wanting to make up for killing his brother, but Scott has never been a good storyteller so I wouldn’t be surprised if mike is BV.

@@3DFella the CC has a motive too. one actually explained in game He sees the animatronics as his friends because Fredbear manipulated him into seeing the robot animals as the only people that love and care about him Also if Michael was FoxyBro and you are implying his motive is guilt the Logbook has him make fun of the Bite of 1983(something a guilty person would not do)

Just MikeVictim

I suspect you're looking at page 166 for the Fourth Closet... "You don't recognize her? That's Ella, of course. It's all your father had left after you were taken... He cried over that store-bought rag doll for two months... poured his grief all over it". All he had left - suggesting Ella survived after Charlotte's death. Store bought - not Fazbear brand. Poured emotion into it - emotional energy, similar to remnant but not transferred with metal. Another Ella would be bought for Charlie; but Charlotte's Ella was her own doll.

But did you read the epilogues as well?

Ever since I came to the conclusion that William wasn't alone in his malicious acts the timeline has differed greatly for me compared to the community.

I'm not sure what you're asking. At Circus Baby's rental Henry was supervisor and Mike worked there for a week. Henry would know Mike but Mike still 'stole' the Funtimes; later coming back to explain how it all failed. Henry and Mike worked together on a plan and I suspect Henry was ready to be the role of the guard, to which Mike took his place. Henry prepared tape recordings as Mike couldn't speak. The exit strategy was planned for both although I suspect neither wanted to follow through. Mike would know of the exit although had likely accepted his own fate. We learn that unresolved issues keep us in the world; although to end a series - everyone accepts their end.

​@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness No, Mike wasn't the only employee, Henry didn't even know his name and just called him a volunteer.

Any character who's motives are mysterious can be good or bad. I see both characters as giving creepy vibes at first then become good by the end. PS. I remember your username from a previous video. Where did the reference to Circus Baby being behind the concrete wall come from? I agree that Henry ran the rentals, Elizabeth pretended to be Baby in an underground bunker. I wanted to use that reference in the future.

@@FazbearsMenagerieOfMadness Hello :) in the story the mimic its talk about the creation of edwin was infused with rage was sealed behind concrete in trilogy of fnaf, fourth closet, when john and charlie are reading the letter of henry to aunt jane, how henry regrets his creation that he infused with rage and (seal away) now we are getting in dlc ruin the mimic endo was sealed behind concrete in security breach, in staff meeting room has a wall filled with concrete we are less than 30 days for fnaf 10th year anniversary i am sure the next game dlc of security breach, we will play as Susie trying make sense of her dreams she having lately its because fnaf at this point is like a game of chess being played by gregory and vanessa versus william afton, one is always trying to outsmart the other UCN show the vengeful spirit tries so many times to outsmart william, but every single only got humilate by him william afton plan to win against gregory and vanessa is frist to forced all the others ghost kids to remember their memories, and all them rebelled against the vengeful spirit william afton believe with this he will get all control back, and susie its his frist victim and now he is free he going after her again Nightmare Freadbear, voiceline show, that william really believe he is one of them and announcement of the new books, and now scott is revisiting steam page of fnaf world, maybe for new update, for new a game there even a book that will be free everything in preparation for second movie of fnaf, because will contain elements beyond the missing child accident, that was frist movie

@@AngelTheory-M It’s as if our Security were Breached