@vinayakofficial5882 Absolutely ridiculous. Anyone who is telling you this is clueless. They are projecting their process onto you and trying to justify themselves through your experience. Musicians who didn't study and play jazz > Nearly all classical musicians Brian Eno Robert Fripp David Sylvian Peter Gabriel Radiohead ? Morton Feldman The list goes on and on and on and on. Being a "jazz player" is no indication of genuine talent or creative vision, or any guarantee that anyone should listen to what you play. It just means you play jazz. That's it. I'm a terrible jazz musician. And I've worked pretty hard at it for many years. Imagine this > Instead of forming King Crimson and creating the music that that group made, Robert Fripp spent his time working on getting really good at playing "Giant Steps". Do you think he would ever made any of the music that we have now? And David Sylvian? Imagine the loss we would have if David had spent his time learning Giant Steps. He would never have made "Gone To Earth." Your experience is proof that no one should be telling anyone else what to play. cheers, TG

@@7directions I can't tell you how much this clears up so many things for me. Really grateful that you took the time to help a young developing musician. I need to carve my own path and not follow my colleagues/teachers footsteps which feels utterly liberating and inspiring. Thank you Trey!

We can arrange that!

@@7directions ABSENT of "Absinthe"......puhleez!! 🖤♠

Its an ai generated filter, not a real recording? Seemingly atleast?

@@kippicalequations9242 i think its ai trying to do something on a real recording. either way, it cheapens the whole thing

just looked at their website and its filled with ai art. you can see the telltale signs on all the artwork. what a shame

Would you have said the same thing about the electronic drum pads when king crimson started using them? Just let creatives and artists use new tools without ridiculing them for it. AI stuff is just beginning and yes most of it is pretty predictable and easy to spot, but in the right hands it could help make some of the best music or visual art we’ve seen yet

@@queenpurple8433 no i dont think this is quite the same, alot of current issues with ai in relation to artistic media is that the art/music/pictures/videos/animations used as input to train the ai that we see producing modern ai art/animation/filters is effectlively being stolen from the original creators who had to put in years of time and effort to hone in their unique talents, and being taken as input from greedy corporations, and effectively recycled by the ai training system in order to create a product which allows effectively anyone, who can type on a computer, to “create” a picture/animation/video/filter which they can then claim as their own work (and they can make money off of this, and they regularly do now) without any compensation/consent/reference/acknowledgement to those original creators whose work was used as input for the ai to generate the “ai art”. So artists who do not consent to their work being used and get nothing in return, have their art taken by a corporation, that corp uses ai to train a model to reproduce their style, make money off of letting other people use that ai model, and then people make money off of selling the output of that model as their own “original work”. So the use of ai in artistic media is very far in many ways from the creation and evolution of the digital tools which were engineered in the 70s and 80s which then became a utility of actual artists and creatives (such as bill bruford of king crimson), where as ai tools end up taking away business and attention from the artists who are being stolen from. In other words, electronic drums were a tool for Bill Bruford to use and create, ai art is a tool being used so that anyone at a computer desk can replace modern artists for much cheaper and no work being put into the creative process, so that actual modern artists can be replaced now their work has been put into the machine and can be reproduced (poorly and non-creatively) without them. This isnt to say ai is bad, ai is a massive branching technology that does and will have many many useful contributions to tech/science/humanity, but in the context of art and creativity, it is taking away all of the humanity and being used by greedy people.

This is a deep topic and impossible to touch on all the implications and nuances. But.... I understand your perspective but I disagree. The drum machine has been around for close to 100 years now and everyone said it would put drummers out of work and kill the art of drumming. And, yet, in that time: We have had Elvin Jones, John Bonham, Max Roach, David Van Tieghem, Bill Bruford, Billy Cobham, Jack Dejonette, Matt Chamberlain and many other purists who played and still play at the highest level. But we have also had Squarepusher, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Mezbow and others who used entirely 'artificial' means to make rhythm. And then we have had hybrid-drummers who do both, like Pat Mastelotto. All of these artists were driven from something on the inside and they use the tools at hand to make what moves them. If someone can make something beautiful or cool or terrifying that is engaging and enriching, then that is what interests me. Not the tools they use. Regarding taking money out of the mouths or artists...that is a tough one, but there is almost no money in playing music these days already. And yet! There are still a lot of dedicated musicians making really cool things, regardless.

@@7directions thank you for your answer. my only point here is to raise some awareness about the topic and sure it deserves a table, a round of pints and an interesting evening to spend talking. I am not judging anyone, I just wanted to share my point of view.

@@AlbertAnguelaI view AÍ art technology like any other form of artistic technology.’it depends on who uses the tool and how they use it. I’m in love with tu-ners AI generated art. It’s much more lively than any other I’ve seen