Yes, it is a telling thing when beauty and joy are discarded by a movement.

Ha-ha sorry to dampen your week!

Hi C Yup He's nailed some grim aspects of modern society.

Hi Iain Sorry to darken your Sunday!

Thanks Jim The tide does not seem to be turning.

What’s it to you if he asks for likes or subscribes? It helps him grow through the algorithm. You think you're his only audience and he should cater just to you? If you hate it that much, don’t watch.

@@BigBananaPete Stupid comment!

@paulreinhard8544 Paul you're the epitome of stupidity. How about you brighten everyone's day by leaving this channel? Didn't your mom buy you a new set of crayons after you ate the last pack she bought you? Go play with those and leave your useless comments on your mom's walls with said crayons. Try not to eat them again.

Hi Mike Yup, I am totally with you on that.

Hi Alan Much appreciated

Hi I'm not sure what defines the Norwegian nature style -let me know

That's a good point - calling him and explorer artist.

Yes, I think his way of working just went out of fashion...but the work still stands.

Some photographs of things are just photographs of those things. But even then they might have some meaning beyond what the photographer intended.

@@PhotoConversations Absolutely. A good photograph is like a good story book. You can read it, but in your imagination you can form the characters as you like. The same goes for photography, photography of beyond the obvious.

Much appreciated!

Thanks Jane

Hi Steve I would have liked to be there.

Hi Gregory Mmm not sure. I think it is a repetition of approach to how one photographs. Look at Nikita Teryoshin's work (this weeks video) and let me know what you think.

​@@PhotoConversations I actually just finished watching that. Another good video. As for Teryoshiri's work and style (or theme), yes he has a style or developed a theme that ran through his work. And yes, it was effective. Not showing faces in the context of the subject matter, it does lead you to think about things beyond photography such as the reasons why conflicts arise, along with the people involved in that area of that world not only remain perpetually anonymous, but are hardly ever though of as existing. People mostly credit their part as being done by the government in abstract way people credit "society" as the motivation for people's behaviors and actions. Nobody thinks about arms dealers are having expos, conventions, business trips, the same as people employed in the residential construction and improvement business. But in relation to Teryoshiri to what I said about Ernst Haas and being drawn to Haas because of not having a theme, is that I consider Teryoshiri as exploring an idea about a subject matter. Which bled over to his photos of zoos because I see similarities. Even in arms expos/fairs, a pleasing presentation is a big consideration just like cereal boxes. And with zoos, the animals are revered for their exoticness and beauty, but being put in a zoo is not actually fitting for that reverence. Plus most zoos aren't even designed with any appearance of an acknowledgement of any reverence. They're more fitting of an expression of disdain. Both worlds are supposed to a pleasant experience. But at the core of each is a bad experience. And Teryoshiri may have explored the same idea with other subjects, or may do that in the future. But I would say that there would be some commonality of traits between subjects that would be there first that would lead to that. And Ernst Haas to me is about what you see and what else do you see. And his work also is refuting the idea some people believe that you need to develop a style. Whatever idea he gets, he explores. This was long, but I do love photography.

@@gregorylagrange I actually think that style/approach is just another tool, like favouring a long lens or a wide angle...or film vs digital. it is the concentration span of viewers/curators that is too short to explore the 'individual response'. It is not so easy to package for an audience and therefore less easy to sell...so I think we are in agreement.

@@PhotoConversations We are. Like I said before, style is useful. But how the term is used is often an expression of a limitation of a viewer (or curator), or when it's used by a photographer describing themselves, they are conflating the subject as a style. To take your lens choice example, lens choice can play a significant role in something like getting across a feeling of intimacy. That can be a style because you can use that through various subject matter to explore an idea. Best of luck. Enjoying your videos and enjoyed the discussion.

Yes please - keep going!

Fantastic, then they are working.

Thanks Rob

He has never been a direct influence, but I can see that his innovations made their way down to me.

Thanks Slava