Dick Keesey

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@MMID303 4 күн бұрын

I have a 1/16 toy of the 6195. These were probably the best looking tractors of the 90s imo.

@MMID303 4 күн бұрын

Deutz Allis never took off, all because they changed color. If they had stayed AC orange, they might have survived. Ironically the same company (Deutz Fahr) is now gaining popularity in the USA today.

@nikerailfanningttm9046 14 күн бұрын

3:40 LOL. KRONE’S disc mower obliterated any remaining New Idea disc owners as you just lift the disc up, pull the blade and replace it, no loosing of nuts or bolts with a KRONE!

@nalley6815 8 күн бұрын

These came out in the 80’s. How are you gonna compare it to a krone lmfao

@Mojave9370 15 күн бұрын

We had a 4900. It was a reliable brute.

@popswrench2 17 күн бұрын

AGCO sure had a way of making "SAME" tractors sound great

@dougrennie9123 Ай бұрын

There were a few of these in my neighborhood. I did not hear many positive comments. Usually a big break down and then they bought a different brand. No personal experience with them.

@scrambler69-xk3kv 7 ай бұрын

Please do the 4600 series as well.

@henryhallock7463 7 ай бұрын

Had a couple 7085. Good tractors. A little low on torque

@Colbato. 8 ай бұрын

A very good and informative advert. I now feel like buying a Gleaner even though I don't farm^^

@conmanumber1 10 ай бұрын

Made by Same of Italy same as Deutz

@goatfarmmb 4 ай бұрын

SAME also owned some shares of Agco at this time too

@user-fr8vt8lg4h 2 ай бұрын

@@goatfarmmbAGCO owned shares in Same at that time . In fact Agco buys up dying companies and basically retains a few of their best models and uses their name on multiple models from multiple company acquisitions . MF , white , agco , SAME , Hesston , allis chalmers , Cat Challenger ect . All owned by AGCO & all the same tractors with different names on the hood . Case-IH / New Holland has done similar acquisitions as well John Deere .

@goatfarmmb 2 ай бұрын

@@user-fr8vt8lg4h actually SAME owned shares in AGCO and not the other way around, SAME is owned and is still owned by the same founding family and they are in the black when it comes to finances.

@goatfarmmb 2 ай бұрын

@@user-fr8vt8lg4h Case IH and New Holland were bought by Fiatagri and still owned by them, Hesston for a few years was owned by Fiat until they bought Ford New Holland they had to sell off Hesston because of the Competition organization that told them to. When Fiat sold it Case IH and Agco bought each 50 % of Hesston until Case was bought by New Holland then the last 50 was sold to Agco

@user-fr8vt8lg4h 2 ай бұрын

@@goatfarmmb thanks for the info . It's been so many trades , sell outs , hostile takeovers , ect over the years especially back in the 1980's that it's hard to keep up with them all . If INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER had just kept 1- tractor in each horsepower class instead of having multiple tractors in each horsepower class divided up between the 3 brands of McCormick , Farmall and INTERNATIONAL Harvester they could have survived the 80's as a individual company . But management panicked and dumped the tractor division . MF was a hostile takeover with agco getting a lot of it's people to slowly buy up stock . A lot of agco tractors are clearly updated MF designs with another name on the hood . Just about all 35 - 50 hp agco tractors are based on the old MF 35 tractors with newer tractor parts that are interchangeable with the old MF 35 parts .

@dannyboy6332 10 ай бұрын

How well did the transmissions hold up in these tractors? Also, how good was the engine in them?

@billfarmer7984 6 ай бұрын

The Cummins 5.9 is well known and a decent engine. The transmission if serviced per the manual was pretty much bullet proof. We had a 6175 on the farm and it had a 8.3l Cummins. Very good tractors.

@timbalabuck422 10 ай бұрын

They were awesome! Drove a demo in 1990 and it sold me on Gleaner combines. Have only owned Gleaner combines since then.

@JohnSmith-lw2bm 11 ай бұрын

Turd Ferguson!

@martinfarrell5778 Жыл бұрын

It's a white combine with massey paint and decals

@aparecidonogueira6536 Жыл бұрын

Mas seu e o melhores TRATORESeteeta ok❤ articulado do Plan

@ciaranthompson11 Жыл бұрын

What hp do think the tractor running the 5209 is?

@jasonroeder9451 Жыл бұрын

Best mowers ever made. You simply can't beat how easy the cutter bars are to rebuild compared to a gear drive mower

@rogerhk5531 Жыл бұрын

Just sold my brother's 4880 and 4900 from his estate. Well maintained and had greater value than I expected. Those tractors, along with the 1800 and 1805, did a lot of work for many years!

@rodneycody8746 Жыл бұрын

Nice

@martinejoseph1644 Жыл бұрын

KIROVETS K 700 est mieux que tout ça ici c'est la vanité cupide qui fonctionne pas chez les RUSSES qui tourne beaucoup mieux tout moteur V8 V12 ............................................... les RUSSES ont 50 ans d'avance sur les ricains y compris au n spaciale !

@billloomis4975 Жыл бұрын

I worked at a dealer when these came out, they dropped Hercules and Cat engines, they did tweak the controls a bit, other than that they was basically the same as the larger "Field Boss" tractors they replaced. The 100 replaced the 2-88/ 2-110 which has a Perkins engine.

@donstephas4890 Жыл бұрын

I looking to find one of these planter for parts Anyone know of one sitting in a junk yard

@aparecidonogueira6536 Жыл бұрын

Muito boa

@johnreeves5887 Жыл бұрын

Maybe if I throw a few grand worth of silver in a deep freezer we can hurry this prison shit up.

@peterzpictstube Жыл бұрын

Oliver was alway too advanced for the market. Agco seems to be the undertaker of the farm equipment industry picking up brands and exploiting them until they are of little value. Thanks for saving this video.

@dannyboy6332 Жыл бұрын

Was this a great combine or was it a flop?? Opinions from anyone that owned one or operated one?

@kronefarmservices Жыл бұрын

Great machine

@dannyboy6332 Жыл бұрын

@@kronefarmservices thank you. i am a poultry farmer but i know nothing about row crop farming .

@kadenemerson3569 Жыл бұрын

From what I read it was better then some other massey models because it has a Cummins and not the perkins

@dannyboy6332 Жыл бұрын

What were the massey windrowers like for those of you who ran them or owned them or both?

@dannyboy6332 Жыл бұрын

Was it a good combine in its day?? Was it better than it’s john deere equivalent?

@nikerailfanningttm9046 Жыл бұрын

It kicked that deer’s ass easily! It was one of the greatest Massey combines ever built.

@thesteelrodent1796 2 жыл бұрын

nowadays you'd get sued for making other brands look bad in your ads. Even if it's true. But what they're really showing here is that the others don't have a transmission that's properly matched to the engine and the machine

@rodneyshuler6655 Жыл бұрын

Don't hurt em MF... 😂💯

@bigtractorpower 2 жыл бұрын

What a dealer event to roll out AGCO. That would have been exciting to attend.

@davidmckee1676 2 жыл бұрын

Really Good video. Wish there was one for the 4650

@jphickory522 Жыл бұрын

I’ve got a 4650 - been a solid tractor

@strteh Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Didn' t know AGCO sold rebranded Same Explorer series tractors.

@popswrench2 2 жыл бұрын

was a good series . 7120 2wd and a few 7085 awd i worked on had good tork rize and did very well . 7120 demo , 6-18 in frost ground barreled right thru the 6"frost .

@claesmansson9070 2 жыл бұрын

Changed the diesel fillerneck,which were stupid,on mine 9240 s,so now on the rear directly into tank.

@claesmansson9070 2 жыл бұрын

Like the 8,3 liter model with Funk 18/9 gearbox better.

@blackwolfsurvival7434 2 жыл бұрын

The good ole days!

@dunit9392 2 жыл бұрын

I miss the New Idea brand.

@KlineDeere 2 жыл бұрын

I do too AGCO IS CRIMINAL

@dunit9392 2 жыл бұрын

I love the video, but wish it had sound. I really wish New Idea was still around.

@dickkeesey8889 Жыл бұрын

It has sound. I just checked. Working fine for me.

@Jordannelson23 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh take me back to the time when gleaners had the Allis Chalmers name on it

@wcooman1694 2 жыл бұрын

Growing up, we had a Cutditioner 272(?). Lost track of how many acres it cut. Bulletproof. other than routine greasing, the only maintenance I recall doing was knife sharpening/replacement.

@robertnymand9889 2 жыл бұрын

A great.add! They were a great machine. I can't believe they couldn't have a place in the market today.

@OldIron2188 2 жыл бұрын

Those 903s sound so stinkin' good.

@onealfarms9967 2 жыл бұрын

AGCO became the worst thing that happen to our farm corporate business buying up all the independent tractor company’s and controlling the parts supply now CNH is doing the same thing

@CheeseMiser 2 жыл бұрын

@bigtractorpower 2 жыл бұрын

If it had not been for AGCO the 22 brands it acquired in the 90’s would have simply gone out of business and there would be no parts for the machinery that came before AGCO. The company started from scratch and built up a strong product line in short order.

@AJmx2702001 Жыл бұрын

I think that its was knowledge that Allied Products was also interested in the Deutz Assets of North America. And given the relationship Hesston had with Fiat there was a possibility there. Cause look at the time line of Fiat Buying New Holland in 1991 within agcos 1st year of operation. Every Step of Agco has been Brand Buyouts to keep pace in technology.

@ericthiel4053 2 жыл бұрын

Sad that they dumped everything into their heavy truck division and ran into the ground. If they would have stuck with tractors and listened to their engineers white could be around like John Deere is today.

@Jordannelson23 2 жыл бұрын

Well u got to be mad at agco there the one's that bought white and got rid of white tractors

@brandonwood1397 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jordannelson23 they got rid of Allis to and it's literally in there name

@joshbergellin5096 Жыл бұрын

@@brandonwood1397 yeah I always tell people that when they say whites not good cause it isn’t around anymore

@halwilliams1682 2 жыл бұрын

Back in the mid 80's a neighbor of mine bought a new 4880. The only problem I remember him having was the welds on the fuel tanks cracked. Other than that it was a good tractor. He used to develop land for irrigation.

@morgan398 2 жыл бұрын

Those would have been international harvester machines had they stayed in business, the mowers are the same as the ih 90' series mower conditioners ND the disc cutter bar the same as ih mounted disc mowers, we had 1 mounted and 3 of the 1190's case ih built them also for a few years then went with hesston, then new holland. Love watching the old sales vidoes.