There is 0 percent chance that the RFU will let Jones take another international coaching role in Europe during the notice period. Maybe slightly more that he could go to a SH team.
@michelemijat826018 сағат бұрын
Nobody wants to coach England, simple
@GQ-df2li19 сағат бұрын
I hope he comes back to Ireland
@leighmarsden623Күн бұрын
Why don't England play any international games up North? Nov internationals on the horizon all at Twickenham! Thought the RFU wanted to spread the game ..
@PlayingGillyКүн бұрын
Borthwick doesn't strike me as an erratic coach, this might be more down to the RFU as a whole.
@neilcarpenter2669Күн бұрын
I am probably in a small minority on this issue because I think what Jones has done is very poor and his reported reasons somewhat pathetic, obviously he is a good coach but i don't buy his reasons for wanting out they just don't hold water in my opinion. I understand it's a blow however England will employ two new conditioning coaches and a new defence coach and if they pick wisely they will be really good at their well payed jobs . Ps Jones won't be coaching anyone else in the next 12 months unless the RFU lets him as he is under a legally binding contract.
@user-xj5ks9yj8nКүн бұрын
Felix was the attack coach for the Boks - The Blitz defence is Nienaber's contribution when he was the defence coach.
@boerierollКүн бұрын
You have to understand that the Boks in the Tri nations had to travel further and play essentially 2 away games where as the Kiwis and Aussies had a short trip for an.away game
@user-du8em2xq5cКүн бұрын
If one loves rugby more than a specific team (I do), this is a very unfortunate development.
@mjhough3558Күн бұрын
Would be nice to have him back in South Africa, but for him and his family, I hope he gets a big opportunity back in Ireland. Good luck wherever you may end up....
@petes9524Күн бұрын
C'mon Felix, come home we know where your heart is, we watched you in Chasing 2.🇿🇦🏆🏆🏆🏆 Saffas love you more than your mother.
@phelansa23Күн бұрын
Felix has been working with Rassie. He must have massive expectations. Perhaps working with Borthwick was just a let down?
@ProTantoQuidКүн бұрын
Now seems likely that the reintroduction of Kevin Sinfield, the previous defence coordinator, has generated confusion about authority. Seems like mismanagement by Borthwick. Or was it intentional?
@gutcassidyandthesundancech5925Күн бұрын
Eddie Jones was an antagonistic coach at best, but perhaps the issues we routinely heard about regarding working environment had more to do with RFU than it does the coach, because there’s no way Borthwick is the same type of negative coach Jones was. Not defending Borthwick, but I’d be shocked for anyone to label him stylistically the same as Eddie.
@jmurphy9657Күн бұрын
The hierarchy at the RFU booted Jones because they were worried what the fans might think...tells you everything you need to know about how spineless and fickle they are.
@stephenvincent2147Күн бұрын
Felix Jones, regardless of how good he is, is not the only defence coach on the planet. He must have started somewhere, someone must have spotted his potential, and someone must have mentored him, and someone obviously gave him a role. The next 'cab off the rank' will be out their.
@Alias-gy3tzКүн бұрын
Rassie and Jacques spotted him.
@celticloftsКүн бұрын
I'm sure Felix has some sort of contingency plan going forward be it taking a sabbatical for a few months or just taking time to consider his next move. I hope they have a slot for him in Ireland which will free up Simon to concentrate on the head coach duties while Andy is away and leave Felit to take over Simon's job as defense coach. I'm sure Andy Farrell has already been in touch with him and offered him something. Either way I wish Felix best wishes going forward.
@IronCross666Күн бұрын
Felix is going to New Zealand.
@johncahalane732716 сағат бұрын
@@IronCross666 I think he won't go there currently, out of the frying pan 🍳 into the fire 🔥 here it appears New Zealand have similar personnel problems... Ireland or South Africa would be the smart move here
@rob-nz6342Күн бұрын
Ireland "the world cup (failures) getting unfairly thrown at them" Really ....... Unfairly. The World Cup has now been around for 37 years, it is not a recent thing. To win the World Cup and become World Champions you need to win 3 knock out games in a row ....... and yet in 37 years of trying the Irish have NEVER won a single knock out game ...... not one game ....... let alone 3 in a row ....... Ireland's World Cup failures are NOT a little thing, and if they genuinely want to suggest that they are the World's Best Team they need to get that monkey (actually it is now a 10 ton Gorilla) off their back. South Africa are World Champions and should deservedly be called the best team in the World for at least the next couple of years.
@lizzyhanahoe4197Күн бұрын
Felix to return to his homeland, that would be amazing! Like you say, with Andy F looking after the Lions tour, I think this would be a great opportunity for Ireland to snap him up but of course it would be something he (Felix) wants to do. ☘🇮🇪
@celticloftsКүн бұрын
And I'm sure the IRFU can well afford to bring him onboard.
@user-rq9zj3zq3hКүн бұрын
His “homeland”? What is he coming back to SA?? ❤❤
@lizzyhanahoe4197Күн бұрын
@@user-rq9zj3zq3h only if Sa has been renamed to IRELAND 🇮🇪
@larrymeyer2917Күн бұрын
Felix, call Rassie, he respected your contribution to Bok rugga.
@user-jw4yc3ec6yКүн бұрын
This is just standard issue for England sport - always have to rip people to shreds instead of supporting them. The support in South Africa through thick and thin is what sets them up for when it counts
@roykeaneunofficial7832Күн бұрын
The rugby championship is very important to us in south africa,and keeping the southern hemisphere strong. obviously the wc is more important. Iron sharpens iron and when sa play ab in a competitive game it helps our players grow and give sthem experience. Win or lose. Australia are also usually strong competition but playing ruby championship will help them get back to their best as well. Look at the improvement Argentina have made since joining the competition.
@user-jw4yc3ec6yКүн бұрын
One wonders how tough it may be for Borthwick - ie, the issues are institutional
@Wolf-hh4rvКүн бұрын
Come back to SA. Felix ❤️we appreciate everything you did for us. 💪
@vuyaniman9440Күн бұрын
He is probably going to Ireland.
@derekreed6798Күн бұрын
All speculation atm. Could it have been he wanted attack, he got defence..then he wanted to be considered for the Lions and was told he couldn't. Borthwick has dithered around on Sinfield. We were told he hadn't got the experience at international coaching level (and that was backed up by Jones immediate impact)...Felix Jones leaving is a massive setback for Eng. It puts them back at the start again and is going to get everyone in the Eng setup questioning themselves, lowering moral and confidence..what a let down.
@andreduplessis9465Күн бұрын
Just to remind you. Felix was the attack coach at the Boks. Still a big loss.
@LFire12Күн бұрын
Walters who Felix works well with has gone to Ireland. Apparently Felix's family has been happily settled back home in Dublin and he's been commuting from Ireland for the England job...Ireland seems a very strong possibility, as current Defence Coach Simon Easterby is taking on the Head Coach Role, while Andy Farrell is with the Lions. So the Defence spot is open. That or the B&I Lions.
@user-jw4yc3ec6yКүн бұрын
And Mike Catt just left Ireland
@PlayingGillyКүн бұрын
Having Felix in the Irish setup would be massive especially when Farrell temporally leaves for the Lions. An extremely safe pair of hands.
@DreynoКүн бұрын
@@user-jw4yc3ec6yAndrew Goodman is taking over the attack role. But as said above, Easterby is supposed to be taking over Ireland head job whilst Farrell is on Lions duty so Ireland defence is a possibility. Or Lions defence.
@stevenfromleicester2529Күн бұрын
In theory Chieka is a major scoop. Wherever he has coached he's improved the team. I was shocked and angry at McKellar leaving more so because of the circumstances such of the lack of an attack coach etc. The problem with Chieka is the 1 year contract. Will he be here in 18 months time and the same merry go round starts again
@johncahalane7327Күн бұрын
England Rugby has bomb damage left over from the Eddie Jones era ,yes there's improvement, yes we see a new road but The RFU is a dinosaur still,innovation is an issue other countries embrace foreign coaches accept it in 2024 ,Jones and Sinfield are not going to wait around, in the Ireland and South Africa setups now they attract innovators Felix Jones will probably end up with Andy in Australia and back home or with Rassie in South Africa, could not see him in New Zealand but much depends on results there in the next while, not a happy clappy camp there either, would suspect he would go back to Ireland, as for England something is wrong let's hope progress isn't derailed. Your correct Borthwick is very àkward with the press hopefully not with assistant coaches and players
@davidwalker2402Күн бұрын
Think Bortwick is using the Eddie jones rule book for managing coaches. Bortwick has no rugby philosophy he just wants to copy what others do and hope it comes right. While England had improved , the last 6 games played England won 2 one against Ireland last minute score, and one against a tier 2 nation japan a 4 losses and this is what England were pinning their hopes on. It’s been almost two years now and the same old same old, are England now going back to rebuilding under a new coach so when they lose now it will be down to new rebuild. Fact is it’s the head coaches job to keep his team happy and together and on this bortwick is absolutely at fault. Bortwick needs to go soon he has little or nothing show for two years as head English coach. Eddie jones was much more successful in his first two years.
@Gilan4983Күн бұрын
Totally agree.
@BobbydylandКүн бұрын
I'd love felix to come back to the Boks, but in all honesty, Oz probably need him the most.
@eoinhanrahan2669Күн бұрын
They need he and a lot more at this point
@burncarlowКүн бұрын
I have a feeling he'll end up with the lions ahead of the tour but I'd like him to go to Oz. And I'm an ireland fan.
@brianboyle268115 сағат бұрын
@@burncarlowAren't the RFU stakeholders/decision makers with the Lions? I doubt they are too enamoured with him at the moment.
@burncarlow15 сағат бұрын
@brianboyle2681 I don't know to be honest. They are stakeholders but how much power do they really have? The truth is I have no idea so I'm open for education.
@mikegray8776Күн бұрын
One coach lost is unfortunate. Two lost is a Trend. Three lost is a bloody EPIDEMIC ! We all need to understand WHY ??? Is Borthwick maybe no more charismatic behind the scenes than he is in front if the camera??
@AvoidnowКүн бұрын
Your turning a corner is beating a team with a fraction of your player pool and almost winning some other games.
@dollydollydolly7277Күн бұрын
felix jones my Go back to south africa 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@dollydollydolly7277Күн бұрын
good summing up mr Alfred 👍👍
@johnmaguire7361Күн бұрын
It is a massive blow to England and Borthwick. As for Jones, he might not be going anywhere. Apparently he is on a 12 month notice period, so the RFU have the option of putting him on gardening leave. This might seem churlish, but since Eddie walked straight into the Aus job after securing an exit deal from England I wouldn't be surprised if this is what happens.
@davidwalker2402Күн бұрын
And that would say that bortwick and England have much more problems when coaches would rather leave in contract than stay in a regime that treats them like sh1t and their own head coach effectively does nothing about it. This is no different than what England had under Eddie jones except Eddie jones had much better results after two years than bortwick.
@LFire12Күн бұрын
It would look terrible, optics wise by an RFU that already doesn't look great. However, while they could implement it in regards to him going to another National Team, most likely his home country of Ireland (which would look awful), IF, Andy Farrell wanted him for the B&I Lions and they tried to stop it, that would bring an absolute storm down on their heads.
@celticloftsКүн бұрын
@@LFire12 : Yeah I'm thinking that if push comes to shove the Irish would pay the RFU to buy out his contract. If the RFU refused to do that then it would look very petty of them as you say.
@user-wm7vq1gc3mКүн бұрын
Welcome home Felix .lreland is home .
@jadenphilander8799Күн бұрын
No South Africa is home.
@lizzyhanahoe4197Күн бұрын
@@jadenphilander8799 oh, have they renamed SA to Ireland?
@jadenphilander8799Күн бұрын
@@lizzyhanahoe4197 South Africa made him, and you know what, we have authority over who gets to call who and what home in this context because South Africa has contributed to every NH Rugby nation and you need our player and our coaches and we make you great ...so bwcause of that, Felix is South African, and thats all he ever will be.
@CiaranmchКүн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ianjacobs2998Күн бұрын
@@Ciaranmch 🤪😝🤪🤣🤣a SA troll
@davidvaughan7877Күн бұрын
the most worrying thing is him being openly critical,makes you think theres something not right there
@cateymКүн бұрын
Jones hasn't given a direct statement. The 'unsettled' comment has come from sources close to him.
@davidwalker2402Күн бұрын
This is down to bortwick, I wish people would stop giving him a free pass , its his job to look after his team of coaches and players but he has shown he’s no different than Eddie jones except to say jones was much more successful with England in the same period of time bortwick has had. He’s an unproven coach has won nothing except club championships and his record as international coach is bad at best.
@jmurphy9657Күн бұрын
@@davidwalker2402Anyone who thought SB would be different to EJ...clueless
@danielg8001Күн бұрын
Do you really think Jones was “second in command” in the old boys network that is the England coaching team? No way in hell was he! I’m outta here!
@peasant5612Күн бұрын
Who was then ?
@davidwalker2402Күн бұрын
Look it’s pretty clear bortwick is not number 1 if he was he would be able to protect and look after his team yet they’re dropping like flies.
@jmurphy9657Күн бұрын
Sinfield managing to keep hold of a role....why??
@Keizer_SozeКүн бұрын
jones will be drafted into the b&i lions and then he'll move to ireland with farrell, once the tour is done.
@MarcsadventureКүн бұрын
There may not be a place for him with Ireland … Easterby is defence coach now and will be acting head coach while Farrell is with the Lions
@MarcsadventureКүн бұрын
But I’d love to see him come to Ireland !
@hithere3035Күн бұрын
He's going to take a massive pay cheque to go to USA.
@Keizer_SozeКүн бұрын
@@Marcsadventure, i reckon he'll be in the irish squad before 2027 😉 (here's a completely unsubstantiated over the top, "grabbed out of thin air" take: what if razor found a way to rope jones into the abs! 😲 i'd be shocked...but also not 😆 )
@Keizer_SozeКүн бұрын
@@hithere3035 , MAYBE. although, i think, at this stage he might be more interested in building out his craft to the maximum...before he takes over as ireland's coach, down the line. i really wonder why he left the english camp, though. wait, here's what's *actually* going on: nienaber was dispatched to learn all the irish secrets. jones, deployed in the same way, learn as much as possible. then, when 2026 rolls around, nienaber and jones returns to the springboks! who go on to win a historic third back-to-back-to-back world cup!!! 🤣
@colinanderson1655Күн бұрын
@ steps forward, one step back!
@keitha6314Күн бұрын
It sounds like he may feel ready to be a head coach now. Unless O’Gara tries to get him in to La Rochelle?
@citedcanvas85Күн бұрын
Felix is world cup winning coach. How can England Rugby mess up so badly.
@Gilan4983Күн бұрын
FJ is world class, Rassie is world class. Borthwick just isn’t good enough
@nathannewportgay2963Күн бұрын
From what I have been told by sources in the know that it’s not about borthwick management and it’s about Walter’s leaving, issues over Kev staying or going and player access and central contracts
@nathannewportgay2963Күн бұрын
England won’t ditch the Biltz. They will recruit an intensive S&C coach to ensure the fitness for it and there is outside experience they can bring in to fill the holes
@davidwalker2402Күн бұрын
If bortwick cannot keep his team together he will many many problems, he is at fault he’s in charge , this wouldn’t happen in SA or Ireland under their head coaches Bortwick has no rugby philosophy he thinks he can just copy what others are doing and his results show he’s doing a bad job at best.
@LFire12Күн бұрын
@@nathannewportgay2963 England may not ditch the Blitz, but the thing is it's not like the Blitz is new! It's been around for donkey's years. Loads of teams have used it. Therefore it seems very much as if it's not really the Blitz defence, it's what Felix Jones brings to the tactics around it. That is what is going to be hard to replace.
@nickysebastianmillerКүн бұрын
These 2 couches might be going to Wales. Why do I have this trepidation and they will be back in the top 10
@Jake14451Күн бұрын
sofa so good, Walters is with Ireland, hopefully jones will come back too.
@celticloftsКүн бұрын
Welsh rugby is in a financial mess at the moment so I don't know if they could afford him. It's either going to be Ireland or South Africa and I'm guess it'll be Ireland.
@Camcolito17 сағат бұрын
Nobody is going to Wales, lol.
@imtiazmohamed93982 күн бұрын
AB will surprise.😊
@Vlerkies2 күн бұрын
As a Bok supporter I don't think we can be comfortable at all. 'If' we win the next to tests against NZ then a big yes. We had Ireland not to long ago and fluffed that really. Hard games but came out 50/50. NZ bounced back powerfully against the Argies, but I think the Argies are best set to take some scalps and win against AUS in both if they don't blow hot and cold as they are known to do. I think, no matter who the winner is of the Championship, the Argies are best positioned to make the most gains and set this as their best ever showing at the tournament.
@benkay13902 күн бұрын
ABs 4th. Do not accept losses. Still fancy them to jag a win in SA though, perhaps at Cape Town
@peasant56122 күн бұрын
Rebuild ? I keep hearing this. We have lost 5 guys. 3 to retirement of some sort. However All blacks don't rebuild. We are not rebuilding. I keep saying this