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@PainAMVwastaken 2 күн бұрын
Fantastic delivery and format. Really enjoyed your thoughts on the two bikes :)
@BikingChap 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for the very kind feedback, it’s much appreciated. It’s hard to get two bikes together but I’ll try to do this more going forward. :)
@ghumantudeb9185 2 күн бұрын
Hello everyone, We hope the scooter in India 2024 end. but compition is too good. TVS Ntorq vs Suzuki Burgman 125 XT and Honda PCX 125. condition of roads are tough with very hard weather. your video is great and background is beautiful. God bless you.
@BikingChap 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. If roads are tough I’d go for the scooter with the biggest wheels or a small motorcycle I think. Good luck!
@ghumantudeb9185 2 күн бұрын
@@BikingChap I use TVS XL 100 for my tour.
@BikingChap 2 күн бұрын
@ghumantudeb9185 that looks like a great, tough bike to tour on. 👍
@ghumantudeb9185 2 күн бұрын
@@BikingChap No Sir, just 99cc, 89kg, CVT, chain drive. But it's my budget. Thank you so much for reply.
@BikingChap Күн бұрын
The places you see, the people you meet will be the same whether on a 99cc bike or a 990cc bike! 89kg also makes it super easy to move about on 👍 Ride safe!
@indiamelia639 7 күн бұрын
Yes please 😊 have you got rid of the NC? I started my biking journey on a pcx. Put 35k on it in 3 years. Great scooters.
@BikingChap 7 күн бұрын
Hi, I have yes so currently between ‘proper bikes’. They’re great at what they’re designed for and very sweet handling if a bit crashy. Brakes are better than the NC! Thing is, what next?! :) [I've added you to the list too!]
@indiamelia639 7 күн бұрын
@@BikingChap thanks! My pcx was great. Over the 35k I did mostly commuting on it other than the usual servicing at 2500 miles (previous gen) it needed 2 sets of head stock bearings, new centre stand and a new indicator ecu which was replaced as a recall under warranty. I had the givi tall screen and muffs on mine for the winter. I resisted putting a topbox on it. Miss it sometimes. It was my first experience of 2 wheels and have many happy memories.
@BikingChap 6 күн бұрын
I think a lot of the scoots go through head bearings due to the harsh suspension and dire state of our roads.
@keithallan8200 7 күн бұрын
That was a weirdly relaxing video to watch Jon. Nice gloves too!
@BikingChap 7 күн бұрын
Thanks Keith, there was a distinctly un relaxing moment when I realised I was dripping the used oil on the new camera. I cut the cries of anguish out 🤦♂️ As for the gloves ‘the boss’ has only just asked if I’ve seen her spare gloves. Thankfully she doesn’t follow me in on KZfaq 😬
@TheDervMan 7 күн бұрын
Funny to see a mesh oil filter as opposed to the more common element ones. 🔧👍
@BikingChap 7 күн бұрын
That’s why I think running them to 4,000 miles is a bit much. The oil that came out wasn’t filthy but certainly not fresh, had done less than 1,000 miles…
@adam-qf2vz 8 күн бұрын
HeyJon.....with my vehicles I work on the total loss system topping up as I go and have an oil change every 5 years whether it needs it or not!!! Joking of course ....thanks for the video and content..
@BikingChap 7 күн бұрын
Fun fact, if you changed the oil by the book, a single 5l pack would be enough for 20,000 miles! 😀
@Blurredman 8 күн бұрын
I love doing oil changes on cars/bikes. It's such a nice feeling after having it done, for some strange reason. How many miles was this machine on?
@BikingChap 8 күн бұрын
Absolutely and it’s so ridiculously easy on these I wanted to encourage people to have a go. It’s done around 1,600 miles and had its first service at 600 miles so the oil had around 1,000 on it. I thought it was quite dirty for such little use but it may still be bedding in. Certainly wouldn’t want that in there for thousands more miles.
@vohannes 8 күн бұрын
Excellent fuel consumption. I had my NC since 2014 and put 112000 km on it, mostly 2-up touring. I ride "normally" 😊 and my best was 32km per liter solo. Best with a pillion and luggage is 28km per liter. Worst was 22km per liter fully loaded, 2-up against a strong wind. I just love this bike.
@BikingChap 8 күн бұрын
I was surprised too! It’s a great bike, not perfect, but a great allrounder. Great to hear you still love it after over 100000km!
@HenryPlympton-vk7ul 17 күн бұрын
Glad to see you! Keep up the good work! Also congrats on the 1k milestone 🎉
@BikingChap 17 күн бұрын
Thanks buddy! :)
@willex13 17 күн бұрын
I have both models and I find it difficult to decide in favour of just the one. The simple handling Honda NC with the high-torque engine and the practical helmet compartment. Good, a little less power when overtaking. Very economical in consumption. The thoughts ? Decelerating riding and the thought that you really need more to ride a motorbike. Then the Honda CRF 1100 DCT from 2020 good chassis, the engine with some tractor character, enough power for everything with some weaknesses in the lower speed range not as strong as the Honda NC. I am still drawn to the Honda NC, perhaps out of habit and the great practical benefits. Besides this AT incredible handling and more power.but too much electronic gimmickry. Where is my way going ? feel like vohannes 🙃😀 I love to ride through German towns at 30 km without jerking on the NC that doesn't work so well with the AT CRF 1100 DCT
@BikingChap 17 күн бұрын
I get it. Most twins these days are fussy low down, probably down to emission limits and the NC, driving effortlessly from idle, does stand out as different. It's almost like an old school twin, a Guzzi almost. There's nothing else quite like it and good though the AT engine is, it just doesn't feel simply like a bigger NC.
@Skip11AM 18 күн бұрын
Yes, please. Valuable content!
@BikingChap 18 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for that, I added you to the list!
@Blurredman 19 күн бұрын
Yes please! How's the MZ coming?
@BikingChap 19 күн бұрын
Thanks, I've added you to the list! The MZ is sadly frozen in time in the garage pending the removal of asbestos boarding. Hoping to have more on it over the next few months!
@thelocodude01 21 күн бұрын
Yes Please!
@BikingChap 21 күн бұрын
Hi, thank you, I’ve added you to the list!
@volt8684 21 күн бұрын
Ithink the manual nc is far far better
@BikingChap 21 күн бұрын
Than the DCT NC or the Transalp?
@janeg4706 22 күн бұрын
An interesting comparison. I currently run a CB500X and a 650 V Strom but I'm thinking I might replace them both with an NC750X DCT. I like the storage and DCT option of the NC. I'm guessing Honda will upgrade the front suspension and give the NC twin discs (+TFT dash?) at some stage soon...they seem obvious improvements. Maybe I'll wait a little while?
@BikingChap 22 күн бұрын
The NC engine is very different from the CB or Vstrom so make sure you get a test ride to see if it suits you. I think many NC owners would love to see an upgrade to the brakes, suspension and dash but I get the feeling Honda have stopped any more meaningful updates to the bike now, which is a great shame if true.
@jimstewardson3362 22 күн бұрын
Yes please mate
@BikingChap 22 күн бұрын
Thanks Jim, added you to the list!
@stephenc6503 23 күн бұрын
Yes please. 👍
@BikingChap 23 күн бұрын
Thanks Stephen, I’ve added you to the list!
@stephenc6503 22 күн бұрын
@@BikingChap 👍
@hotdoug1000 23 күн бұрын
Funny to think of you on a 125 scooter at your height. I always felt giant on my little CB125 only being 6ft.
@BikingChap 23 күн бұрын
Let’s be honest, I look ridiculous on it, especially with the very low standard screen. I’m plotting a ‘pizza delivery bike to the south of France’ series at the moment which could either be disastrous or mildly amusing possibly both ;) My little cbf125 was the star of my original video, on the same drive, some 9 years ago.
@hotdoug1000 23 күн бұрын
Yes please. I'd be interested in trying a different chain lube or cleaner on my bike to see if any different from my current stuff. These three protectors should seem like a close call for your rig but you never know. Good to see you back on again.
@BikingChap 23 күн бұрын
Thanks Doug, it’s tricky to give the other products a good comparative test but I’ll do what I can. 👍
@bailey-cj2pl 23 күн бұрын
Yes please! Im always keen to try out decent new products. If only there were products like this back in the seventies and eighties !!
@BikingChap 23 күн бұрын
Absolutely, things have come a long way, added you to the list!
@adam-qf2vz 23 күн бұрын
Yes Please...... Hey Jon......thanks for the test ing of the products. Looking forward to the results.......now....where is our MZ? did you give up on the old girl? take care and thanks for the content
@BikingChap 23 күн бұрын
Thanks Adam, I can’t remember if I mentioned it previously but we found asbestos in the garage which I need to get removed. Long story. MZ is still there everything is disassembled and covered in fogging oil. Sorry it’s the world’s longest (slowest?) ‘will it run video’ :(
@adam-qf2vz 23 күн бұрын
@@BikingChap hello mate....yes you did.......i would of thought you would have got it sorted but like all of us....prob down to funds! hope you are well and get sorted soon....thanks😀
@grahamedkins 23 күн бұрын
Yes please 🙏 Incidentally I already use their chain lubricant which I find to be excellent 👍
@BikingChap 23 күн бұрын
Added to the list Graham, good to hear re the chain lube, I'm thinking how best to give it a meaningful test at the moment, but hear good things about it!
@thematlockbiker 23 күн бұрын
Yes please 👍
@BikingChap 23 күн бұрын
Added to the list! :)
@alfredocesarano757 25 күн бұрын
I have the same bike and I love it.
@BikingChap 24 күн бұрын
That's great to hear, a great, versatile allrounder in my book :)
@rayurlich 26 күн бұрын
Nice one. Cheers mate.
@BikingChap 26 күн бұрын
You're welcome, hope it was of use!
@jerryorange6983 27 күн бұрын
My model 2013 start stop only works after warming up the engine + achieved the speed of 5mph. they added the voltage sensor in 2014 so if the battery is too discharged it won't work too.
@BikingChap 27 күн бұрын
@@jerryorange6983 that’s brilliant, thanks for letting me know, clever about the low volt sensing too. 👍
@spinnetti 29 күн бұрын
Hmm. so add the transalp to the picture - how would that factor in?
@BikingChap 29 күн бұрын
Hi, I did a quick comparison of the NC and Transalp here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9t4ZsWg0c_OloU.html It's very different from the NC with loads more power but stacked relatively high up in the rev range. A bit more, light, off road potential but I'd rather have a smaller front wheel (and tubeless rims) for road only use. Brakes and suspension are far better on the Transalp but there again it's a big step up in price, at least in the UK.
@spinnetti 29 күн бұрын
@@BikingChap Thanks! I think I'm mostly concerned with road comfort and ease of handling, and it sounds like the DCT bike is a bit less comfortable but maybe a bit easier handling? Hmm. decisions, decisions lol.
@BikingChap 29 күн бұрын
@spinnetti it’s very much a personal preference, the Transalp is very cosseting but did get blown about a bit in the gale force winds. Personally the tubed wheels were what put me off it but I couldn’t deny the get up and go.
@JamEWalsh Ай бұрын
I came for the review and stayed for, "...like a baboon's backside". 😄 I really appreciate this and all your other videos I've watched. Fair, balanced, and full of great info. Thank you!
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! It’s been a bit slower this year but looking to get a few more reviews of bikes and other stuff out before the end of the year, fingers crossed!
@KrisVic91 Ай бұрын
Is there room under the seat for a helmet or no? There is in my honda vision 110 2023.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Hi, it's very touch and go. My large, full faced Shoei doesn't fit but many open faced helmets fit fine. Can you take your helmet in to a dealer and see if it fits being buying?
@KrisVic91 Ай бұрын
@@BikingChap I mean could I guess. But is stupid designing a scooter that can't hold a full face. I won't wear a half face. If I ever fall off Id like to keep my jaw. I just bought my vision so I'm happy enough. Just dissappointed in Honda I guess if they havent designed the PCX to hold one.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
@KrisVic91 fair point Chris, mine is tight but then I’ve got a head the size of a small planet. They’re a fair bit more punchy than the vision and it’s worth checking to see if your lid fits ok. Agreed re the open face lid.
@nelsonthebluebird8794 Ай бұрын
This type of Can doens't have a catalytic converter in it right? does it give any problems while riding? i mean with the ignition or somthing like that? did you lose any power?
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Hi, that's right this type of is just a straight through muffler with a removable baffle that tones down the noise when fitted. No problems when riding as the cat is still fitted at the front of the existing part of the exhaust, so no fuelling problems, no need for any ignition changes and no noticeable change in power. You only tend to run in to issues when you remove the cat at the front of the exhaust, noise, altered power characteristics, increased fuel consumption etc. Hope this helps.
@nelsonthebluebird8794 Ай бұрын
@@BikingChap For sure Thank you very much! Very clear answer considering a Delkevic or a GPR exhaust/Storm/Leo vince hmm...
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
From the GPR / Leo Vince cans I’ve seen they’re nice quality, you won’t go wrong there.
@allenantonio4389 Ай бұрын
You can put a lot of meat pie's in the trunk
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
I’ve never tried but I’d imagine so, yes! ;)
@Emma-pe4qs Ай бұрын
Just got one and the baffle is now on the end of the can.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for updating us all, that sounds like a much better idea, who wants to take the can off to pop the baffle in or out? I’d be interested to hear what you think of it.
@Emma-pe4qs Ай бұрын
@@BikingChap It sounds perfect not too loud with the baffle out, we have the exact same end can (purchased a month ago) on my sons 2016 yamaha wr125 and the baffle was in the other end like yours we had to pack around the baffle with wire wool on his as even with the baffle in it sounded like a crf450 he is 17 and it was even to loud for him, will get a clip of mine this weekend. I was going to email Delkevic as like you said its a bit of a job to remove the baffle and is way louder than my one on the nc750. appreciate your reply thanks.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
@@Emma-pe4qs thanks for coming back to me, interesting stuff. Would certainly be interested in the video when you've done it.
@jimporter Ай бұрын
Funnily enough in a later article Kevin Ash repeated the myth himself as though it was gospel, that is how well the myth was perpetuated.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Funny old world isn’t it? Like so many urban myths there’s an element of truth in it but no, it’s not ‘half a car engine’
@farmoboy83 Ай бұрын
At least in Portugal nc750x pruce is almost the same as transalp...its a no brainer unless you are going to do more than 24000km per year and fuel consumption is a priority.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Really wow, as you say in those circumstances, no contest!
@stillshakin2125 Ай бұрын
I noticed that the centre part of your nc bellypan is black, the one i have bought is also black. Did you spray it?
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Hi, no it’s not sprayed, it’s standard as it came from the factory, it’s an ‘18 UK model if that helps. :)
@stillshakin2125 Ай бұрын
Why don't more manufacturers use the frunk idea with fuel tank under the seat? It makes so much sense, i assume the low engine makes it easier. If i recall correctly BMW Scarver 650 from the 90s was one of the few.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
It's a really good point. I think you're right, the low slung engine is a big help, 4 cylinder bikes with straight intakes and big airboxes rob a lot of the space where a frunk might be. Secondly, even with the low slung engine, you also have to find somewhere to put the tank. The NC gets by by being very economical which helps get good range out of a pretty small tank. Clever idea all round eh? :)
@stillshakin2125 Ай бұрын
@@BikingChap Yes, a great bike, wish i had bought one years ago.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
@@stillshakin2125 absolutely, I don’t know what else I’d change it for in honesty, a real workhorse.
@user-mi8eb9ge1b Ай бұрын
Yep, the bike has never run better. I think the engine is superb, never had to add any oil between service's. Big thumbs up from me.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
I think it’s fair to say it’s one of the most solid motors out there, a real workhorse. 👍
@user-mi8eb9ge1b Ай бұрын
Had my NC since 2015, 47k on the clock and I always get 88-95 mph all the time. That is everyday riding with no restricting of the bikes overall performance.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Hi, that's impressive stuff, I suspect they take a good while to fully loosen up and at 47k miles yours is now running at it's best, great figures!
@cpuuk Ай бұрын
Useful, thank you.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Glad it was of help :)
@rwalto99 Ай бұрын
I have one and have just been to the Picos in Spain and it is perfect for this 😀 Although mine has developed more of the hunting at low speeds not sure why but very annoying 😩
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Oh I should imagine it’s an absolute blast, sorry to hear about the hunting though, might be worth checking the chain tension, if it’s ’slackened off’ it *might* just amplify the hunting. Just a thought.
@macraemorse Ай бұрын
Good review and agree with your points. I have a 2021 but it is basically the same as the 2024. After 6000km, the sticking fuel cover seems to have resolved itself but I definitely experienced it when the scoot was new. I installed a taller Puig screen and a Shad 33l topcase on mine. My only complaint is that the battery on the remote fobs seem to need to be replaced every 4 - 6 months. Could be some interference with the Honda MapIT tracker that came with mine here in Spain. Brilliant tracker and app though. Not sure why they don't sell it in other countries. After 6000 km, I can hit 110kph indicated but normally drive at 90 - 95 on dual carriageways. Otherwise it is a faultless urban bike and offers great value for the money.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Ah, thank you! I forgot to mention the fob battery, I had heard about it. Odd isn’t it? As mine has been mainly used round town this was the first dual carriageway run so it may still be a little tight. What impressed me most was how refined, stable and sweet handling it was. Nicer than the 350 ADV handling wise imho.
@macraemorse Ай бұрын
@@BikingChap After the initial breaking in period, it maxed out at 105 so it has definitely become slightly faster on the top end with a few more kms on the engine. As you noted, it is more lively at urban speeds than you would think for a 125.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
@@macraemorse that’s useful to know, thank you. I’ve had CBFs and YBRs in the past and while they’re great for longer journey I think the scoots are so much better in town to avoid the endless gear changing.
@TheDervMan Ай бұрын
Wow, never knew bikes had stop/start 🤯 Assuming you can class the X-ADV 750 as a scooter then I've proper fallen for Scooters. There's an R1250GS in my garage too, but the X-ADV is my goto bike. In fact I'll most likely hand back the GS when the PCP is up and stick with the Honda 😎 Thanks for the real world review.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
I absolutely get that, the 125s are great around town, but do struggle over 50 or where you have bigger, longer hills where the 300 / 350s come in to their own. Then you have the ADV which many guys use for light touring in Europe, like an NC bit with better quality suspension / brakes. What’s not to like?
@keithallan8200 Ай бұрын
Nice to see another video from you! Enjoyed that one.
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Thanks Keith! I’m trying to secure some more bikes to test but it’s hard to avoid the ‘we can lend you bikes if you say nice things about them’ trap which so many channels seem to fall in to. Might be trying some older ‘classics’ 400/4 for eg, not sure how it would go down but it would different :)
@adam-qf2vz Ай бұрын
Hey Jon.....welcome back with a vid......I bought a 2012 PCX and had it for 10 years which I used for work......I had upgraded tall screen, shocks, pipe and a ton of bling attained when I was in Bali....I loved it and so did the wife around town and regretted selling it when I moved out of town...in Bali and a lot of eastern countries they are 150cc ....that extra 25 cc makes a difference.... keep a check on the belt and rollers .....cheers for the vid mate
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Thanks as ever Adam, struggled a bit with the quality on this one but I’m determined to get some more content up shortly. It’s a great little thing and given the stroke appears the same I wonder if it’s just the barrel / piston that differs. Would be a nice little upgrade if so for those with full licenses.
@jerryorange6983 27 күн бұрын
150cc looks like the standard over the world apart of the UK. 125 cc is a max what a learner can ride + other things like the taxes and A1 driving licence. I wish I could try 150cc. I just wonder if it is the cylinder different only or something or more. Does anyone know?
@BikingChap 27 күн бұрын
@@jerryorange6983 I keep meaning to look up the part numbers but it’s certainly only the bore that’s different so the bottom end may be the same. It’ll be interesting to see as the petrol ban for 125s comes in 5 years before the rest of the bikes whether Honda then bring in the 150s for a few years for full licence holders. Doubtful but you never know.
@adam-qf2vz 27 күн бұрын
@@jerryorange6983 From what I understand its just a larger bore and remapped ecu. I have ridded the 150 in Bali and that extra few cc makes a more fun ride. You can buy a kit but its nearly £500 . Thats a lot really for a cylinder and piston.
@jerryorange6983 27 күн бұрын
@@adam-qf2vz thx . 500 is pricey.
@billyflanagan9657 Ай бұрын
I just bought the xcp orange can will it make a mess of a new motorcycle or should i wait for the clear coat? Thanks
@BikingChap Ай бұрын
Good question! The Orange can sits somewhere between a wax coating like 'Waxoyl' and a traditional product like ACF50 that leaves an oily film. The Clear Coat I tested is significantly thinner and less effective. That said there is a new Mark 2 Clear Coat out now and I'll be testing that shortly. In answer to your question I'd happily use the orange can on a new bike but perhaps try to avoid using it for a while after applying it to minimise the muck that will stick in the coating.
@billyflanagan9657 Ай бұрын
@BikingChap ok thank you very much
@TwistandRelease 2 ай бұрын
Nice video. Looking for a exhaust for my NC750X but not sure what to go for 😅
@BikingChap 2 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for the feedback, I've tried a few now and to be honest if you're retaining the cat then they all sound much of a muchness, especially out on the road. The longer cans tend to be a bit quieter and the stubby cans a little more noisy but it doesn't make as much difference as you might think. I'd go on quality / price / looks depending on where your priorities are in honesty. Good luck!
@PeterVred 2 ай бұрын
Good analysis of the grunty but fun factors of the TA. Some days it’s exhausting if I’m not in the mood to have to “hang on”.
@BikingChap 2 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for dropping by and the feedback, much appreciated, I still think it's a great bike but, and I never thought I'd say this, I really think a softer tune would suit the Transalp character better but is it a deal breaker as it is? No way :)
@PeterVred 2 ай бұрын
@@BikingChap I agree again. I went out today after reading about keeping the revs up on the XL750, and took various back road blacktops, keeping it above 4K rpm, and up to 5.5 - 6.5K, and had a LOT of fun really winding it out in 3rd and 4th gears! I realized I have been riding like an old man, and I am. I'll bet this bike, like my AT, like to keep the revs up. I've also been experimenting with turning the throttle down to 2 bars, EB at 2 or 3, and TC on a bit as well, like the Gravel Mode, and it's great on level gravel roads, way better then I'd previously thought. But when a steep and rutted dirt/gravel hill came up at the end, I did stop and turn off TC. Loving this thing more every day.
@BikingChap 2 ай бұрын
@PeterVred that's great to hear, I came to the conclusion that there's enough grunt there if you're not in the mood but wind it out and it really flies and sounds so good. Glad you like it too!
@stillshakin2125 2 ай бұрын
Did you travel in drive or an s mode? Mine seems to get about 80mpg two up at the posted speed limits although it does have a booster plug which i assume may make it use more fuel.
@BikingChap 2 ай бұрын
Hi, this was almost exclusively in DRIVE mode. 80mpg is really good, I'd say, two up at the legal limit, it obviously likes that booster plug! :)
@scottsellers9039 2 ай бұрын
I traded a 2018 manual model for a 2024 DCT model a month ago. In everyday mixed riding they get almost identical MPG figures, 65 MPG US. I could squeeze around 82 from the manual, and so far 79 mpg from the DCT with my rider mode, and forcing the DCT into 6th a little earlier than it is programed for. These are fantastic motorcycles, but just like in your automobile fuel economy is greatly influenced by how you operate it.
@BikingChap 2 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more, I was amazed at how much difference it made just riding really conservatively. How do you find the '24 compares to the '18 as a matter of interest?
@scottsellers9039 2 ай бұрын
@BikingChap As a background, I had 33,000 trouble free miles on the 2018 and I performed all the maintenance myself, including valve adjustments. The 3rd generation NC is lower, shorter, and a little more powerful. The 24 fits me better, but I did move the bars back and up about 200mm. The 24 has better suspension, and rides more sporty, vs dirt bike like. I find the saddle more comfortable on the 24. When I stand on the 24 I feel the geometry changes more than when in the saddle of the 18. The j head lamp on the 18 was superior to the 24! The 24 pierces far down the road, but lacks the side illumination of the 18. I commute in the very early dark hours in deer country, so I installed auxiliary lighting to see the road sides better. I'm very happy to have spent the money on the new bike and have no buyers remorse, except for having to start farkling all over!
@BikingChap 2 ай бұрын
@scottsellers9039 thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! I think I might need to try the '24, sounds like they've really improved it.