I see a lot of character in the Saint's face as well as the individual mark of the iconographer. I really appreciate that she does not have that greenish ochre background skin color that some others use. She looks much more alive and immediate without it in her face.
@MossyMozart4 ай бұрын
I once tried tried mixing in a lot of gold scraps into lacquer and painting with it. There was a slight gleam, but it was very dilute and crude compared to this beautiful shell gold!
@dawsie4 ай бұрын
I was not able hear you all talking due to the two men talking over the top of you from the radio my hearing aids just could not seperate your voices from theirs so it just became annoying in the end
@freehee25 ай бұрын
Is the gum Arabic water-based?
@ijak625 ай бұрын
Yes
@cindylemarier41026 ай бұрын
I would like to see the process from the beginning
@ijak626 ай бұрын
Visit www.eliasicons.co.uk/our-lady-of-sorrows which shows the whole process. This course is free to view, and there are other options that are subscription based. Take a look!
@ijak626 ай бұрын
Visit www.arborvitaeiconography.com
@ninanoon60336 ай бұрын
I’m sorry my English is not good enough to understand the conversation. If somebody could give me a summary of this interview, I’d be very grateful. One thing that I could catchup is there are numbers of smart brain among Palestinian but nobody truly care for the future of their people/population. The present authorities (people with power) will be getting old soon and will die one day. They bring up their next generation with false teachings, how can their children live in peace. Gazan/civilians are a good example for the case. They are born to be forever refugees, who cares!?!? Their leaders are corrupt and use their people as a source of income. 😢
@1088frog7 ай бұрын
Amazing, Thank you for sharing this process. very much appreciated.
@ijak626 ай бұрын
You are very welcome
@stanislavklucik6108 ай бұрын
When to start polishing gold with agate? how long after applying the gold?
@josimister25738 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Ian, very thoughtful and thorough x
@user-sn5it2xb6d8 ай бұрын
So moving Ian. Praying for peace for all. xx
@suzanneedmunds6968 ай бұрын
Thank you so very much for your thoughts on the situation in Palestine and Israel. I am not an academic or someone with any voice or experience to speak out to a wide audience, but it has been so good to hear all the threads brought together, so articulately. We are pounded with news from every side and I sit here screaming at the screen/radio, "what about this" or "don't forget that", and weep for the lack of vision amongst those who do have power to change things. I try to pray constantly, and share with those around me, but you have provided some hope that the voice of truth will be heard. God Bless you.
@ijak628 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the appreciative comments. I just hope it helps bring some clarity among all that screaming and pain. God keep you.
@bruturb8 ай бұрын
I remember seeing it when I was in the Holy Land in 2017. I had no idea it was painted by you. God bless you, Ian. May he give us peace.
@heatherlinakridge11 ай бұрын
Thank you
@amiekim944511 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Can the shell gold be used over oil paints? What paint mediums can this shell gold be used with?
@ijak6211 ай бұрын
It's not designed to be mixed with other mediums but it can be used for a whole range of uses alongside other media such as calligraphy, illuminations and not just in icons...
@ozymandiascakehole3586 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for passing on this knowledge, I have been looking for a suitable goldpaint for the parts that are too small to do by gold leafing. I even bought the premade pill shellgold but was very disappointed with the quality. I followed your steps but did add a few drops of distilled water (maybe a little early) while swirling because it was getting too dry to move around. Maybe the problem was that I was using 12 sheets of Rosenobel Double gold so the ratio of gummy and gold leaf might have been off because I also noticed that it was rubbing off a bit to easily while burnishing. So I dissolved the dry paint again in some distilled water and put a few more drops of gum arabic in. That seemed to do the trick. Very happy with what I ended up with so thanks a lot and best wishes from the Netherlands!
@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm delighted that it worked out and the tip about adding a little gum arabic if its not sticking well is well worth noting!
@LayilUmbralux Жыл бұрын
I am trying this process, but my gold remains a dark ochre color, and hasn't brightened back to a golden sheen. What am I doing wrong? I am working with loose leaf 24k gold. Thank you!
@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline Жыл бұрын
I think you are not rubbing it with your finger long enough.
@annagiraldo7843 Жыл бұрын
Peccato non so l inglese manca la possibilità automatica della traduzione , Grazie comunque
@user-kp3uz9bh5k Жыл бұрын
Благодарю Вас за видео !
@br.samuel4754 Жыл бұрын
Gold leafs are verry strong. You must trapping. You "break" the leaves into pieces. How Longer you tap how better. When you see the "Paint" under the microscope you can controle the Quality and fitness.
@fabiotalharu2908 Жыл бұрын
Did she used loose leaf or a transfer leaf?
@user-pe2lw1ze8i Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video. I've started making special mirror frames. Hand carved on wood and accepting with gold. This video helped greatly
@mrminer0711662 жыл бұрын
Having rubbed a few shells in my day, the ROUGH texture on the inside of the shell would help with the griding. A smooth porcelain plate would probably be TOO smooth.
@freehee22 жыл бұрын
Hi. Do you teach how to tone down the gold to a nice warm honey colour?
@edwardtheconfessor15462 жыл бұрын
How long after applying the bole on the gesso should one wait before embossing it?
@gregl22492 жыл бұрын
What is the music playing?
@gulnazqureshi52242 жыл бұрын
What kind of gold leaf is that
@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline2 жыл бұрын
23.5ct
@kelvinlim26882 жыл бұрын
Did you paintng anything on the white icon area to protect the excess leaf during gilding?
@aliciasalazar-dawes58513 жыл бұрын
Could the embossing be done on the gesso prior to application of bole or is it better on the bole?
@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline3 жыл бұрын
If its on the gesso it would be inscribed. You can only emboss into the bole as it is soft clay
@aliciasalazar-dawes58513 жыл бұрын
@@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline thank you!
@maryannehyacinthewhatisara14833 жыл бұрын
Gum Arabic is what?
@adamstewart2762 жыл бұрын
Gum Arabic... is a binder used in wafercolor.
@tajweedlearningrulesandtec5738 Жыл бұрын
From where we can get Arabic Kindly share its link with us. I’m in USA
@dwbunloaf82459 ай бұрын
@@tajweedlearningrulesandtec5738any art shop will sell Gum Arabic
@apebass22156 ай бұрын
@@tajweedlearningrulesandtec5738 any art store, or Amazon.
@mathyre2323 жыл бұрын
This may be the only video on the internet showing how to make the egg emulsion
@Lola-mn9oz3 жыл бұрын
Try gold nailpolish
@9876531763 жыл бұрын
Rhodes island.
@9876531763 жыл бұрын
Philothei.😊😊😊🤗🤗🤗
@9876531763 жыл бұрын
Good morning. Which bole did you use? Which brand? And how is it applied? You will help me a lot to apply it too. Thank you from the bottom of my heart !!!
@krystabrooks89413 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I've made it twice now and the quality is exceptional.
@munazzakhan95593 жыл бұрын
can you use any gold sheet or are these real gold sheets
@ozymandiascakehole3586 Жыл бұрын
@@munazzakhan9559 has to be real gold, preferably 23k+
@avecanem3 жыл бұрын
attn: westerner aggressive tone accompanied by mansplaining
@ozymandiascakehole3586 Жыл бұрын
What an awful thing to say to someone who is trying to provide some very hard to come by information.
@apebass22156 ай бұрын
I bet you don't even know what a woman is.
@MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio3 жыл бұрын
This video is very useful and I get the gist of it, but are the instructions written down anywhere: exact amount of gum arabic, number of gold leaf sheets, amount of water, what brands to use, a list of the steps, etc?
@sanatstudio62513 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, What is mixed in red clay? rabbit skin glue or gelatin?
@sebastianmelmoth6853 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you!
@liatomaselli66503 жыл бұрын
Did she added mineral water or normal water?
@ijak623 жыл бұрын
Normal
@liatomaselli66503 жыл бұрын
@@ijak62 very interesting, useful for recovering all the gold that is lost in the process of gilding. thank you very much for the video
@anelegantera81633 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing a lost art. I have no teachers where I live and I would love to pass the skills down that I have been researching all these years
@ijak623 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Do take a look at my other channel The Bethlehem Icon School Online for more free materials, and also check my website, www.eliasicons.co.uk where you can find details of the online long term formation in iconography that I run. Bless you!
@gildy_pleasures3 жыл бұрын
An ineresting thing that in the middle of this video you can hear the Russian speach: two men are talkig about making of the shell gold, according to what they said only 1 of 20 persons can make the proper gold. It depends on the skin and it's oils and liquids. If I understand correct previously there was a special person who made shell gold. And also the voice has been noticed, that he can't make the proper gold - his one is too crumbly.
@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the observation... Olga was Russian and she used a recording of her teaching from Russia... I never did know quite what he was saying!
@gildy_pleasures3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline thank you so much for such a detailed video! And many thanks to Olga, her teachers and this knowledge
@jdemaestri43003 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@kdlettering87113 жыл бұрын
Hi! I would like to know if you can use a glass muller rather than one’s finger so the oils from the skin don’t go into your shell gold ?
@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline3 жыл бұрын
Well, I havent heard of either a muller being used or skin oils being a problem...
@kdlettering87113 жыл бұрын
A glass muller is a glass tool that is used to mix watercolour pigments and liquid gum arabic to make paints. I am curious if that tool would work or has been worked with this method. I think using a tool like a muller would or could reduce fingers from cramping.
@ijak623 жыл бұрын
@@kdlettering8711 KD I know what a muller is, I meant I haven't heard of it being used for this. Thinking about it, you need a more gentle touch than a muller... you don't grind you tap, and gradually break up the gold into tiny tiny pieces. If you notice the finger uses a tapping motion and only a round pressing motion later on.
@gildy_pleasures3 жыл бұрын
@KD Lettering, probably it would be useful for you: I've just found out from one icon writer (he's Russian, as Olga from this video) that the skin oils from your finger is one of the ingredients of the shell gold. That's why professionals don't like to buy it in the shops - the mechanical way to produce shell gold isn't correct. And also there is the Russian speach in the middle of this video: they say not everyone can do the proper shell gold because of different skin, so prevously it was a special master who prepare it. So don't think you made any mistake, if the qualities of your gold won't be perfect, but also do not be afraid of the skin oils. All the best to your practice!
@kdlettering87113 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your detailed and thoughtful reply. That makes sense. I thought the oils would be an issue so that’s interesting that it actually aids in this process.
@ednarvaez85654 жыл бұрын
Ian, thanks for the video. I couldn't tell you how you transfer the outline of the letters onto the gold. Do you press through the tracing paper? Also, what kind of paint do you use?
@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline4 жыл бұрын
Ed Narvaez Hi Ed, to transfer to the gold, yes I press slightly through the paper. And I use casein paint to paint on the gold.
@ednarvaez85654 жыл бұрын
@@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline Thanks Ian. I have one more question. What tool do you use to outline the design on the halo? Is it a plastic embossing stylus or something else. Also, can you tell me where you bought it. Thanks again! I love your videos.
@TheBethlehemIconSchoolOnline4 жыл бұрын
@@ednarvaez8565 Thanks! I use a variety of things, even an old ballpoint pen, but not a sharp end but a rounded one. A plastic embossing tool works well, again so long as its not a sharp end. It is the sort you can use for craft embossing card. I think I bought the one I have at the moment on Amazon.
@lisajarvis38204 жыл бұрын
Distilled water?
@dinagamal35104 жыл бұрын
After painting it on for example porcelain, how to fix it in able to use it safely? Specially for dinnerware? Is there any minimum time to leave at the sun for instance?
@butterberrydolls4 жыл бұрын
porcelain painting for it to be permanent, you would have to use gold luster. This has to be fired in a kiln at cone 018-019 in order to fuse into the glossy glaze of the plate. Unfortunately gold luster isn’t food-safe so you cannot eat from the plate, only for decoration. This video is just a watercolour and will never stay on the surface of any porcelain.
@marziehkaviani55364 жыл бұрын
It was great!! Thanks a lot! Hope the quality of taking video was better