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@CrystalCupcake86
@CrystalCupcake86 Күн бұрын
Appreciate all this information. I have a 2.5yr old miniature dachshund and he is quite literally the sweetest with no mounting issues and a great temperament. I would love to leave him intact but do fear the benign prosthetic hyperplasia, and would not want to run the risk of having to neuter him later on in life. Can you give your opinion on that?
@CrystalCupcake86
@CrystalCupcake86 Күн бұрын
Thank you 🙏I’m so excited for this series this is my biggest dilemma
@richc4231
@richc4231 2 күн бұрын
Dove hunting in Florida where I live cost me my seven year year-old lab in 1995 from heat stroke. She was acting normal and retrieving, and then just started to wobble and lose her Balance. Start the cooler down half hour ride to the vet on fluids and still did not make it. I’ve learned my lesson and very observant of my dogs now thanks for the information and the one tip about monitoring their temperature was a good one.
@1g412
@1g412 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this 😊
@dsaltlife2925
@dsaltlife2925 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for another great video
@user-uy8dr4gh8i
@user-uy8dr4gh8i 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for a very comprehensive overview of this topic. I have a Flatcoat retriever and wondered if you have any specific recommendations for this breed? My girl is now over 7 and I had her lap-spayed at about 6 1/2 years. I don’t know if any vets in New Zealand that are doing ovary saving spaying but I am now wondering if this would have been a better option for her given the high incidence of cancer in the breed.
@user-nq5dt7bk3y
@user-nq5dt7bk3y 7 күн бұрын
once Science may discover that altering the natural balance doesn't create better results, than those of thousands of years of evolutionary precision
@MeiraV-
@MeiraV- 9 күн бұрын
I am a former rescue/shelter volunteer, who has an 2.5 yo intact female labradoodle (the pumpkin spice latte of dogs!) and has been debating spay for over a year. I can still hear Bob Barker too lol. I would LOVE to get her tubes cut, but my looking indicates the cost is ~10 times a routine spay. : (
@vizsla3Mmom
@vizsla3Mmom 9 күн бұрын
Love this series! Great timing! Would love a series on best food/nutrition for hunting breeds!
@fowlhound7331
@fowlhound7331 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for this!
@leahangers1088
@leahangers1088 11 күн бұрын
That was a great presentation and a topic that I have a great interest in. I am old enough to remember when veterinarians only spayed or neutered dogs at the request of the owner. Back in the 1950s and ‘60s, there was only the municipal animal shelter (aka the Pound) and people were responsible for their pets. In 1972, I was in college majoring in Pre-Veterinary medicine and was breeding and showing Cocker Spaniels but, had a mongrel female that I thought might be a problem with a male that I’d kept to show. The vet that I worked for decided to only remove her uterine horn, leaving her ovaries intact. Problem solved! She lived to be over 16 years old. Back then, I kept the registration papers, for all my pet quality puppies until they were spayed or neutered. I owned a show bred intact Golden Retriever for 14 and a half years, with no heath issues until 6 months before he died of a brain tumor. We know that selective breeding, after multiple screenings for known defects, can make a huge difference in health and longevity. After having a complete hysterectomy, at 50, and realizing that even a minimal amount of hormones, in old age, makes a tremendous difference, I would never spay or neuter an animal unless medically necessary. I now, own a 9 year old Welsh Springer Spaniel boy who is and will remain intact although, I am constantly harassed by vets to neuter him.
@oleggrishchenko4757
@oleggrishchenko4757 12 күн бұрын
great presentation style
@bunnyluv2535
@bunnyluv2535 12 күн бұрын
My dog was neutered at 3 months by the rescue I got him from. He is mainly Great Pyrenees and some Anatolian Shepard (90lbs). Would getting him joint supplements help prevent joint issues?
@ztr003
@ztr003 13 күн бұрын
Fantastic summary thanks
@alessandra.lisetta
@alessandra.lisetta 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for this series, very informative!
@kobenoah1
@kobenoah1 14 күн бұрын
Interesting. Wish i hadn’t neutered my Great Pyrenees Wont neuter my Mal
@bunnyluv2535
@bunnyluv2535 12 күн бұрын
Mine got neutered at 3 months by the rescue I got him from
@danielspenner3683
@danielspenner3683 14 күн бұрын
My dog says: look, if I'll get neutered, so will you. I won't. It's that simple😂.
@danielspenner3683
@danielspenner3683 14 күн бұрын
We may have unlearned to accept arguments that proove our own opinion wrong. However science means to know until proven otherwise. So, these new results shouldn't really surprise us too much.
@marymacdonald2379
@marymacdonald2379 14 күн бұрын
These studies need to be redone with all dogs fed a raw food diet or a natural fresh cooked food diet. Also, spaying/neutering technique should be minimized to just severing the fallopian tube(s) or sperm tube.
@micheleobrien64
@micheleobrien64 15 күн бұрын
Everyone told me to get a lab or a golden for service work. The hip history and too goofy attitude turned me off. I chose a german shorthair( European lines) and his size and serious looking face keeps people at safe distances, his smarts made training easy, his coat is easy cleaning, he loves other animals but is people selective. Hes perfect and gorgeous. And loves to work. Life is easier with him in it!❤
@micheleobrien64
@micheleobrien64 15 күн бұрын
My gsp looks just like the blk and wht in the cover pic!!😮❤❤❤
@micheleobrien64
@micheleobrien64 15 күн бұрын
With my german shorthaired pointer, i was only able to wait til he was 7mths, he was in service training and his dominate guard instincts was ruining his training to qualify for the strict guidelines. At adulthood he is 87lbs, an aggressive attitude would have been dangerous for HIS well being. I watch his hips closely but at 8yrs theres no issues. ❤
@deanbalouris330
@deanbalouris330 16 күн бұрын
Another question comes to mind; is the any data that separates out cryptorchid males?
@deanbalouris330
@deanbalouris330 16 күн бұрын
Where could I find this information for other working (police type) breeds? Also, are there any studies that look at changes in working ability resulting from neuter/spaying?
@tiiimmmaaayyyy3616
@tiiimmmaaayyyy3616 18 күн бұрын
My dog was born with his balls and he'll die with his balls regardless of the research.
@vizsla3Mmom
@vizsla3Mmom 18 күн бұрын
This is a great summary. I’ve read this study but it’s very helpful to have your insight as well…..10 month old vizsla owner holding off on neutering for awhile. Is it more difficult on a dog if it’s neutered at 14-16 months versus 2-3 years or older (more bleeding, side effects etc.)?
@ninahirsch9443
@ninahirsch9443 19 күн бұрын
Good work doctor.Hope mutts are more disease resistant.
@KendraMaria
@KendraMaria 19 күн бұрын
Super interesting study. Thank you. I'm curious about herding breeds too.
@aranka4372
@aranka4372 20 күн бұрын
Interesting material, I own a Flatcoated Retriever who is 3 years old and still intact since I am not convinced neutering him will help him health wise on the long run. It is difficult though sometimes since he can be very distracted by bitches in season which makes it hard for us to work together at training. But since the breed is prone to some sorts of cancer it still hasn't felt right to neuter him, chemically maybe at first, to see if his distraction level will go down only so we can train better together. I hope there will be more data available for his breed so I can take that into consideration when deciding once and for all what I should do. Till then he will remain entire.
@eshea3621
@eshea3621 20 күн бұрын
60+ yrs owning German Shepherds. Reproductive organs are NOT a disease. Hormones are essential for lifelong health. It is ridiculously easy to manage an intact dog IF you are responsible w a bit of common sense. In 60 years never had an oops litter. I have owned both bitches & males. The other issue wh does affect health I would like to see you comment on is overvaccination and the current lack of single vaccines to allow us to space out vaccinations and the possible affects of hitting the immune system at one time w a shot that contains 6-8 vaccinations.
@l.loganboswell1761
@l.loganboswell1761 21 күн бұрын
Interesting information.
@watchmoivies123
@watchmoivies123 21 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for this information. Could you do a video on behavioral issues or aggression both Being neutered at a early age and also being neutered or spayed after three or four years old thank you I’m in a little dilemma right now. I have a 3 1/2 year-old intact male which I believe to keep them intact forever because I am Irresponsible owner, but he seems to be getting a little testy with male dogs. Thanks.
@WokelandDefector
@WokelandDefector 19 күн бұрын
Robert Hynes Dog Training and Mark Dubose have a lot of great information on dog reactivity and aggression. I highly recommend them. My dog's issues have gotten much better after stopping the things that most of today's dog trainers tell you to do and changing course by following Mark and Robert's suggestions. Oddly enough, that meant going back to my "old" ways from how I raised my two previous dogs who were wonderful and well balanced. The main difference? My husband and I treating them like a best friend and child (respectively).
@watchmoivies123
@watchmoivies123 19 күн бұрын
@@WokelandDefector oh what kind of dog do you have? Do you have anything on your KZfaq channel?
@WokelandDefector
@WokelandDefector 19 күн бұрын
@@watchmoivies123 I have a german shepherd (~125 pounds). I don’t have any videos on my channel but can share links for Mark and Robert. This is one of Mark’s talking about aggression/reactivity: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNJ6a916rdmlnIU.htmlsi=rJuJAphKCkxCMoT1 - It’s not what people would consider a “normal” dog training video. None of his videos are. But the information he shares is very thought-provoking and valuable imo. Here is one from Robert: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qp2JpLWCpqmRfoU.htmlsi=7zIgILlOK-GZpaU_. - Also not a typical dog training but the information in this video and many others is great. He has a lot of videos of consults where he “breaks into” people’s backyards and assesses their reactive/“aggressive” dog. He also has a Facebook group where dog owners can get support and help from him and other dog owners. It has been a huge help to me.
@watchmoivies123
@watchmoivies123 19 күн бұрын
Oh thank you very much. I will go check these out and have a wonderful day. Don’t forget to love your dog which I’m sure you do.
@WokelandDefector
@WokelandDefector 19 күн бұрын
@@watchmoivies123 You have a wonderful day yourself!
@desireehubbard7337
@desireehubbard7337 21 күн бұрын
Hi Gundogdoc, Do they also provide when to spay an female Basset Artesien Normand?
@cordo7051
@cordo7051 21 күн бұрын
Even though these date sets are full of noise, I’m sure we can do something with the signal. Thanks for sharing!
@kathyrivera2576
@kathyrivera2576 21 күн бұрын
We have male Weimaraner that just turned 2 this week. He is intact. We are senior citizens. He is our third Weimaraner. My only concern is if it will change his personality or his demeanor. He is the most difficult dog I've ever trained. Have shown in obedience an conformation. Boxers and Weimaraners. This guy could care less about recall. Overly excitable and frustrating. Heels pretty well unless he's distracted. ❤
@gaypreator8547
@gaypreator8547 22 күн бұрын
Physiology would argue with, at least grow and go into adulthood. An animal should be allowed to grow up-develop, it needs specific sequenced hormones to accomplish this. I don’t care if you are male or female. Many countries are denying spaying, pushing owners to be more responsible. At no point did you address diet hmmmm. Processed foods/chemicals and the nonsense foods owners feed. Diet diet diet, food is instruction for the body. PS cancer is a metabolic disease. Period.
@revoakes8984
@revoakes8984 22 күн бұрын
How can one access the full study? I'm interested in several breeds to consider for my next dog, hunting and non-hunting breeds, and have been very interested in this issue for decades. One breeder friend (collies) was having her vet do ovary-sparing spays twenty-plus years ago, so it's certainly not a new technique, just one that apparently veterinarians are not interested in pursuing.. mine laughed at me when I mentioned it. Not one of these girls (pet placements usually of mature or nearly mature bitches) ever had a problem, including incontinence, and lived long and healthy lives.
@enriquerojas9758
@enriquerojas9758 23 күн бұрын
It should be just like humans: vasectomy for males and tubal ligations for females. I don’t know a single vet that is able to do this. So of course primitive spaying does a lot of damage.
@juliebrown8375
@juliebrown8375 14 күн бұрын
Every heat cycle raises the risk of breast cancer, a relatively common cancer.
@fireice2999
@fireice2999 9 күн бұрын
@@juliebrown8375it’s very easy to detect breast cancer and treat it in its early stages. I’m not spaying my mini Aussie.
@markharnett9389
@markharnett9389 23 күн бұрын
Just a thought (I don't claim to have any expertise or knowledge of the subject whatsoever) but perhaps Great Danes and Irish Wolfhounds are outliers and don't appear to be affected as their very limited lifespan means they pass away before the conditions are observed.
@roberthynesdogtraining
@roberthynesdogtraining 24 күн бұрын
Recent? The "fringe vet" Karen Becker spoke in depth about this 10+ years ago. Why are other vets just catching up now?
@Gundogdoc
@Gundogdoc 24 күн бұрын
Plenty of us "non-fringe" vets practicing with working dogs have advocated, for decades, against early/spay neuter and leaving dogs intact . The RESEARCH to back these opinions is RECENT allowing for it to be more widely accepted and discussed. The science has finally caught up to what many of us have felt was likely the right answer.
@roberthynesdogtraining
@roberthynesdogtraining 24 күн бұрын
Likely the right answer? Can you explain that? You're still not sure? The damage that has been caused to dogs and owners is immense.
@Gundogdoc
@Gundogdoc 24 күн бұрын
​@@roberthynesdogtraining Prior to the research we felt it was LIKELY the right answer, the research has since CONFIRMED that. It's easy to make claims and suspect something is correct it is another to prove it is correct---the research has caught up. There is a vast difference between whipping up some ideas and doing "google" searches and what is considered actual research by scientists. In today's world that gets confused a lot, especially by people who's training is they bought a computer. When someone uses the phrase "I've done research" what they usually mean is "I've done some reading" which are vastly different concepts. Most things start as what someone likely thinks, from there the science will prove whether that is true or not. In this case it took far too long for that science to catch up. The world of medicine is filled with crazy examples, like bloodletting and lobotomies, that once were thought to be "likely" the right answer and subsequently proven not to be. Sometimes the science solidifies these ideas sometimes it changes longstanding ideas. It doesn't mean there is some vast conspiracy by veterinarians it means that information has changed and so recommendations should also change it's called growing and learning. There are a lot of people that very strongly feel that pet overpopulation and resulting euthanasias is a far greater crime than the health issues that may crop up with early spay/neuter. Their beliefs aren't wrong for them either. The issue is that people feel there is only one right answer and that everything should either be altered or left intact which just isn't the case in the real world. It should be an individualized discussion about individual pets and owner situations. The science is showing we can reach optimum health outcomes in both camps if we are smart about how we do it and stop throwing stones at each other.
@roberthynesdogtraining
@roberthynesdogtraining 24 күн бұрын
@@Gundogdoc This isn't pointed at you. Where was the informed consent from vets? None, notta, zero, zilch - just spay or neuter the dog. We are the experts? Humans get HRT - why not the dog? Outside of litters of puppies? There is zero reason for spay or neuter. What is pyometra? What causes it? Does spay really have an effect on mammary tumors? No. Studies proved that a long time ago. Do you realize how many dogs owners are realizing that they shouldn't have spayed or neutered at all? Now that they are seeing the serious side effects of it - and paying large for the side effects? Now that they are understanding that their vet lied to them through withholding information? If they had been give ANY possible negative side effects - they would not have gone through with it at all. But no. They did so based on a vets advice - with zero informed consent. Not even a talk about the 'possible" serious medical issues - nothing. There are alot of upset owners, and they have a right to be. Vets have alot of explaining to do.
@Gundogdoc
@Gundogdoc 24 күн бұрын
@@roberthynesdogtraining I think you are painting with a pretty broad brush to assume no vets are having a detailed conversation. For nearly a quarter century I've talked through the pros and cons and the vast majority of owners, even when the cons of health are discussed, just do not want to consider owning an intact dog. I'm not going to go into a discussion about pyometras here, but yes they are real and yes they occur regularly. The largest uterus I've taken out of a dog is still my own dog and we are starting to understand the varying risks among breeds. I'd also be careful about casting stones from the glass house which is the dog training profession. From The Monks of New Skete to Caesar there have been many, many techniques that people felt were the correct way at the time that are now considered problematic...yet are still preached from the highest of mountains. I know a number of good dog trainers that bemoan the fact that a hairstylist needs to be licensed in the state they cut hair, which will grow back, but a dog trainer is able just hang out a shingle, or in today's world purchase a domain, and they may screw a dog up for life. Do you want to be held accountable for the sins of your colleagues' past or would you rather start from the information we have today and do what's right going forward? If you watch the first video in the series I discuss how the profession got to these recommendations, and at the time they were done with no ill intent and with what people truly believed was with the best interest of the dog in mind.
@jeanninerash5701
@jeanninerash5701 24 күн бұрын
Great info
@annaedmonds9765
@annaedmonds9765 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to deep dive into this study!
@erinhardick4803
@erinhardick4803 24 күн бұрын
Unfortunately people like me that get rescue dogs they are always "fixed" it does not matter the age of the animal.
@MA-xd9zl
@MA-xd9zl 18 күн бұрын
And that’s why (good and reliable) breeders are important, otherwise after a decade there would be no dogs at all left…
@bunnyluv2535
@bunnyluv2535 12 күн бұрын
Me too. My vet was pissed when he found out my big dog was neutered at 3 months old by the rescue. Now that I know the recommendations for large/extra large dogs I completely understand. He was concerned about my dogs health especially as he gets older.
@MA-xd9zl
@MA-xd9zl 12 күн бұрын
@@bunnyluv2535 damn that’s insane. The crazy part is I was looking for a shiba and the breeder wanted me to sign a document that I’d spay him until he was 6m old… like… wtf. It was super expensive and I would be forced to do it before he was even 6m. I just said ok bye to them. Now I’m going for another breed (is for service dog so it needs to be from a good breeders/parents etc) and there’s no such a thing and found out they grow until 2yo so it’s bad to do it before 2y, so if I ever do it I’ll wait. More and more I see how shelters don’t give a crap about the dogs health etc 😩
@jodyinglis913
@jodyinglis913 11 күн бұрын
Rescues have their point because they know the heartache and distrust in people. But you are harming the dogs health. Taking on a rescue that has been desexed less then six months of age you are inherently taking on those health risks ! And setting yourself up for heart ache is something to consider. Not everyone is irresponsible. It's pros and cons each way. :(
@MA-xd9zl
@MA-xd9zl 11 күн бұрын
@@jodyinglis913 when I went to adopt they had Labrador or golden (it was 6y ago so I don’t remember which lol) puppies, but they already had a waiting list cause people most of the time only want puppies, now I’m glad I didn’t get a puppy since he would be neutered yet at months old /: instead I got a gsp that they assume where 3y or more and that’s when they did it. She’s now 9y (or more lol) and only now is starting to show signs of age but still a great dog health wise. We need to spread this information more to try to avoid /:
@chukarless7974
@chukarless7974 28 күн бұрын
That's a lot of great info! timely in that i just got a 2 year old, intact Drahthaar and am trying to decide if/when I get him cut. Thanks for presenting all that!
@andrewpappas7198
@andrewpappas7198 29 күн бұрын
Why are you generally against partial hysterectomies (ovary-sparing spays)? They are great for keeping dogs healthy for their entire lives, while avoiding unwanted pregnancies. When my wife at age 40 was diagnosed with polyps in her uterus, the doctor listed many reasons to keep her ovaries and avoid menopause, including to stave off bone weakening, weight gain, depression, and cancer. It seems that while spaying may have especially bad effects at a younger age, the effects don't completely go away with age.
@Gundogdoc
@Gundogdoc 29 күн бұрын
In general we aren't trained in the technique and so it would be something that a fair number of people would need to take it on or it would need to be standardly taught. Not that I think it is probably incredibly difficult it just isn't a standard procedure at this time. That in and off itself seems like a weak answer but as someone who has seen stump pyometras (when the parts of the uterus left behind are stimulated by either left behind parts of the ovary or ectopic ovary it would make me nervous to leave the uterus. My understanding is that you still have the undesirable behaviors that sometimes come with the heat cycle and some dogs will still have discharge. Outside of the golden, with the information we have I'm just not convinced it is needed in every female. I think you can get a lot of the same benefits with keeping a dog intact for a period of time and then spaying. Someday it may become more widely utilized I just don't think we are there as a profession right now.
@Todd_Monson
@Todd_Monson Ай бұрын
Great information. Wonder if altering increases epilepsy in Labs.
@Gundogdoc
@Gundogdoc 29 күн бұрын
Thanks. My initial thought would be to say probably not as it seems some lines are more prone and I've seen it in intact and altered.
@MultiChillidog
@MultiChillidog Ай бұрын
have owned mostly female Dobermann's but have had 2 very wonderful female Weimaraner's. As with most (breeders included, since it was not my intent to breed any of my dogs), they recommended that we spay prior to the female getting it's 2nd heat-cycle. which I have done for all but my last 2 girls. The last girl we spayed at that time (prior to getting it's 2nd heat cycle) she (female Weimaraner) developed constant joint disorders mainly with her knees and hips of her back legs (mostly the left rear) and then before she was 8 could barely walk up (or down stairs) and then due to not having the strength to raise herself up out of her bed unassisted, began having bed wetting issues. Other wise she was healthy and loved life dearly. My wife was so upset and heart broken to see a dog she loved so dearly, struggle so much, for the last years of her life, and she attributed it to early spaying. So with our next dog (female also), she refused to listen to the breeder or the Vets, and we did not spay her. She was the sweetest girl you will ever meet, born June 9, 2003 and passed on September 12, 2019. Yes, she lived 16 years 3 months and was still acting as if a puppy well into her teen years. It was only into the last year of her life that she started to slow down. Do not know what this proves as to the "spay or not spay, neuter or not neuter" but from our small sample size, we both (my wife especially) are in the "not spay/neuter" unless for health issues. I now think back at issues or other dogs had, and wonder if early spaying contributed or not? Obviously, I will never know. But I now look at dogs in much the same as with humans - if we are not spaying and neutering ourselves (humans), then why (If healthy) are we doing it so early with dogs. I know the biggest reason is population control, and in poorer countries feral dogs are a problem. But this should not be the main reason to recommend it to every "responsible" dog owner.
@carolynbrown4028
@carolynbrown4028 Ай бұрын
I'm not a hunter. I don't own a gun dog. I will probably never own a gun dog. Nevertheless, I found your video fascinating. The data was well-presented, and your humor was as dry as the Sahara. Thanks!
@Gundogdoc
@Gundogdoc Ай бұрын
I greatly appreciate this feedback.
@InterdyneInternationalK-9
@InterdyneInternationalK-9 Ай бұрын
Reasonable Size Studies. Well Presented. Nice Job 🐾👍✔️
@Gundogdoc
@Gundogdoc Ай бұрын
thank you
@ZomboiRye
@ZomboiRye Ай бұрын
Thank you for breaking down the study! This was super helpful!
@Gundogdoc
@Gundogdoc Ай бұрын
Glad you found it helpful