I was half expecting Hindu pantheon / Zoroastrian

Readability of non-hero human units is a problem. Telling human units apart in busy melees or crowded formations is difficult at a glance, especially if they don't have their armor upgrades yet. My vote would be to make armor and equipment display on the unit models by default, rather than have the appearance change following tech'ing.

You said the full release will be at the end of september. I think you got it wrong, cause in the steam page the release is scheaduled for sep 4, and if you bought the ultima edition, aug 28. Or did the devs said anything about delaying?

well, I think there are a lot of interesting pantheons to be explored. indians, native north america, sud american civs, africans, etc.

I think it was done on purpose to confuse people, or by mistake. They won't make a second very similar Asian civilization. People most want to see the Aztecs, most likely they will be the second DLC. Although in fact it is more interesting to see and get acquainted with the gods of the Mesopotamian civilizations and the gods of the Indian people

Maybe it will be just a part of campaign for china?

Japan should be in last place, it's a pretty boring mythology, and few people are interested in it. After the DLC of China, there must be Aztecs, otherwise it will be a complete disappointment and a crime on the part of the developers.

i couldn't play a single game cause the game crashes when a match starts or the benchmark test starts

We had an Asian civilization. So why won't you introduce a Roman one instead?

These are fake

I would be happy with any pantheon since every culture has something cool, and having played both betas have full faith in the team behind Retold to deliver

I would really like to see Indian mythology, it is very unusual, similar to contact with aliens. And I would also like to see the architecture of Mesoamerica + biomes with jungles for a change. And Slavic mythology, there are hundreds of creatures, gods and heroes with a very gloomy atmosphere. China and Japan are boring, we've seen it all many times in different games

I find that the beauty of the graphics is more a hinderance than upgrade. Yes it looks gorgeous - but its also much harder to, at a glance, know what units belong to what team.

I find that the beauty of the graphics is more a hinderance than upgrade. Yes it looks gorgeous - but its also much harder to, at a glance, know what units belong to what team.

We want to see Slavic mythology

I feel like the next one is most likely to be Hinduism as they got a tonne of famous Gods and myth units.

Careful - someone else did a video with leaks like this and had their video taken down and their channel hit with a strike!

Surely people jest when they say this looks beautiful?

I love everything regarding visuals and gameplay, however I am a bit skeptic with re-usable God powers. Also since I'm a huge fan of the original, I was a bit disappointed with the main menu. I hope they add an option to "switch" to the nostalgic, classic main menu! I also can't wait for the editor :D

Im really holing for celtic and germanic mythology.. But i wonder if they will have mythical beasts to the level greek or egyptian mythologies have

If they did have a Japanese pantheon they could have ONI myth units or whatever

FYI: this is no leak. People identified the Japanese files as leftovers from AoE 3 DE

Aztec has a better pantheon, they should make a game about this

It makes absolutely no sense to include Chinese and the Japanese which share a very similar theme. I'm more in favor of a Mesoamerican pantheon (Aztec, Maya, etc) because it gives a new and unique theme to the game.

I mean it makes total sense for me to make it be Japan, as they can make it a "pack" or "theme" to release 2 asian civs, an then later in 2025 or onwards release 2 Native American civs like Inca and Aztec. Then make Hitites and Babylonians later on in 2026 or 2027 keeping it thematic or regional.

I was expecting Aztecs with some blood mechanics and interesting buildings such as Chinampas (water farms).

Yeah, I'm East Asian, but prefer to see Western hemisphere mythologies especially the Aztec or Maya next after the Chinese get re-released. Also, if it can be done respectfully, I prefer to see the Hindu pantheon next. But maybe it's because many people have already create amazing mods of the Aztecs which is why it's on hold.

I'm slowly burned out with the Japanese mythology. It gets so much attention. Some here mention it would be a older time period we usually see (samurai & first gun powder usage), which could be helping against that feeling of mine. Yet I would like to see other folklore and myths explored. Someone on reddit postet a concept about Slavic mythology I think it was. Or what about the Irish legends? Would that maybe work? Or from a sub Sahara culture. If we'll see Japanese or Aztec I really hope they won't just reuse assets from AoE 3.

For me aztec is the best to use as dlc……the theme about sun god and blood god and priests for more blood and jaguars warriors are awesome……also is more jungle American theme which we lack now from mythology…..also we can see some mesoamerican pyramids and nice myth units and god powers

The Japan that could apper in Retold, probably will have Shintoism as base, and in there the 3 major gods are Susano'o, Amaterasu and Izanagi. Maybe the samurai classes won't be shown, as I think because of mythology periods they woldn't exist. The Ainu people must be the ones shown. Or maybe the mith of the first emprerror

it is interesting. I would like to try Japanese faction.

Wait, is it a troll video? Everything you mention, from Lakota to Cherokee to the Japanese units you talk about, all is almost completely irrelevant to AoM.

Dont think you should have gunpowder and Bronze Age myths exist in the same time frame it would be from like 2000BC to least 1100AD… Keep Samurai/guns out of it the Japanese have more history to them.

Interesting with Japan in this period is that Japan did not control all of Honshu. Japanese would not have had Samurai or gun powder. Samurai only came about because of the Empires fight against the Emishi (incredible cavalry archers) which caused the Japanese to move away from a standing army to Samurai and cav archers themselves.

I really am expecting China, Aztecs, then maybe Mesopotamian, and then Japanese. It just weird to release two Asian civilizations dlc back to back.

They ahould have had aoe4 as the base and build from there. The GUI from aoe4 is so much cleaner and works awesome

I loaded up age of empires II definitive edition on a new computer and it had the same horrible narrator that was hard to figure out how to turn off.

VA in the campaign is horrendous and soulless, sorry. Good things there will be mods to replace them with the original VA.

I can agree that adding healing to Poseidon or Kronoss might be broken and so on, but I always feel bad when killing my centaur who has 7 HP. If giving healing optionis to op, then I have idea: despawning, so that after pressing "delete" unit dissapears in a flash of light just as when it is recruited. It might look wierd, but in my opionion units droping dead because their player wants to replace them with healthy unitsalready is weird.

Thought the release is at september 4th not end of september

I don't like the new design at all. The should keep some colour's of the old designs. Also the details are gone it looks now more like a mobile game

yeah the keybinds are asinine

about the benchmark thing: thats weird, I didnt even need to do one myself to play multiplayer at all. I did one out of curiosity, but was never forced into running it myself

Новые звуки ударов по броне/зданиям/ юнитам, новая озвучка актёров , новая явная ИИ Музыка саундтреков над которыми явно не сильно старались - мне не нравится совершенно. Поразительно что в 2024 качество звука хуже чем в 2002. Многие звуки в игре выбиваются и резанируют на фоне оригинальных , если оригинальные ласкают слух - то новые просто через чур свежие и чистые настолько, что аж режет слух, разве не должно быть так , что старые и новые звуки должны дружить друг с другом ?? В итоге они отличаются и это заметно, а такого быть не должно!!. В оригинальном Аом к звуку в целом подошли НАМНОГО серьёзнее, как такое возможно в 2024 с такими техническими возможностями ???? Позор. Далее "нечитаемость" героев/солдат , некоторые выглядят одинаково и их анимация атаки 1 в 1 как у других, нет отличительных черт. Например Турма в оригинале имела уникальную анимацию атаки и внешний вид, в Ретолде это обычный конь с копьём который на поле боя перепутаешь с любым другим конём и всадником. Далее Аура героя - выглядит отвратительно, что это за желтое кольцо ?? Почему не сделали как в оригинале ? Просто плавное еле заметное свечение. 2002 качаственнее чем 2024 - просто позор. Далее зелёная земля Гаи - это треш, неужели они не видят что эта земля выполнена плохо ? Она не сочитается со зданиями, она слишком яркая и однотонная , пересвет и яд для глаз. Разбавьте это хотябы с коричневыми корнями которые там выступают, измените цвет на более приятный глазу. Это всё атмосферные мелочи и тонкости, которые в оригинале выполнены с душой и ответственностью Анимации Походки и атаки всех титанов - ужас, они не уверенные, не внушительные, отвратительно выполненная работа, как можно делать ретолд версию в этом плане не полной , если перед вами оригинал и есть с чего брать пример ? Я в корне от этого в бешенстве. Верните сочную морскую светлую воду , не нужна нам глубокая темная вода как в океане - это минус атмосфера, в оригинальном Аом - вода как в ярком бассейне в отпуске, это всегда делало картинку уютной.

the voice acting is garbage

The corpses and destrction desapear to fast. Wish they change that.

If the biggest complaint is 'voice acting', this game is going to be amazing. I never even play anything other than 1v1 ranked so it means nothing to me, and if you are playing the campaign just skip the sequences and play, isn't the game about playing and not watching a movie/cutscene?

I say the biggest problem, is the voice acting, for one, I never heard a Grecian accent, but there is something that feels like the dev team are trying to hard. Someone described it best, the voice actors sound like they are from Spain that sound like they are fake a Russian accent, then speak German, all the while speaking with a tone as if its another day at the office. In short, the voice acting was fine, no one really complained and revoicing everything is just senseless work, it tells a story well. Lets hope China gets its serious rework as it needs it... A lot of rework.

There are 2 very important errors also to solve that happens when many units surround a building and you move it, they stand still because they cannot group, and they stay still surrounding the building, until you move them in parts, it is quite frustrating, and the other is that you build a military building near a forest and train units inside that forest that cannot get out...

I loved most of the game, but personally, I am not a fan of the new voice acting. The actors have Greek accents, but they sound like they are cold reading a script in rehearsal. Many of the scenes from the campaign have completely lost what the line was supposed to convey. For example, the Fall of Troy mission where Agamenon tells Arkantos that he will assault the walls. In the original Arkantos sounds like he's questioning it with "That's a fine start, but what about the others?" In Retold, Arkantos sounds excited about attacking the most formidable defenses in the Greek world by himself. Arkantos and Ajax look at each other as if to say "Is this guy serious?" In Retold that entire feeling is lost. The new VA is my biggest complaint, I hope there is a mod to get the original voice acting back. Also, Arkantos is supposed to be 44 years old and he has a 20 year old son. In Retold Arkantos' portrait looks about 20 years old. The voice actor also sounds quite young. The original voice actor had a deep booming voice that sounded the part. They could at least sprinkle in some grey hair or add some weathering to his face.