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@stayspicy9456
@stayspicy9456 2 күн бұрын
This is so cringey
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 күн бұрын
No, it's FREEDOM!
@RichReviews2
@RichReviews2 3 күн бұрын
if I recommended a book to you. Would you review it.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 22 сағат бұрын
I make no promises. I have an entire bookshelf of books I've bought that I typically feel obligated to read before all others. But what's the book?
@RichReviews2
@RichReviews2 22 сағат бұрын
@@TheManOfManyMen Nitro: The Incredible Rise and the Inventible collapse of Ted Turner WCW by Guy Evans.
@tune.upzander
@tune.upzander 7 күн бұрын
watching this for my AP lang
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 5 күн бұрын
hahaha right on!
@shocker147
@shocker147 7 күн бұрын
This is Koontz's best book.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 5 күн бұрын
It's very good
@brucewayne7252
@brucewayne7252 9 күн бұрын
😂❤
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 8 күн бұрын
hahaha glad you liked it!
@bobtepedino5661
@bobtepedino5661 11 күн бұрын
Beautifully spoken, Sir!
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 10 күн бұрын
Thank you. Never forget that peace can always be found in a dirty garage...
@JayRuperRoe
@JayRuperRoe 20 күн бұрын
You said Trump acted reprehensible after the election, at the same time reading about the election being stolen.
@geraldherrmann787
@geraldherrmann787 23 күн бұрын
Do the Moth-Joke! 🙂
@HyperMoon
@HyperMoon Ай бұрын
🤣 the older I get the more correct and prophetic I find Mckenna
@jacklong9449
@jacklong9449 Ай бұрын
I think the reason why many Russians admire Stalin is because they only see the good side of him (i.e., fighting against Hitler) and ignore the bad side of him. I don't see it as that much different from British people admiring Winston Churchill.
@voxstelarum
@voxstelarum Ай бұрын
No line wasted with norm, even when it sounded like he was meandering. The absolute GOAT
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen Ай бұрын
Agreed!
@suzannalytle2758
@suzannalytle2758 Ай бұрын
We read this book in second grade and its still one of my favorite books almost 30 years later
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen Ай бұрын
It's a good one!
@sshold
@sshold Ай бұрын
Kanye will forever hate this. I will forever find this🔥🔥🔥🔥
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen Ай бұрын
Amen!
@heyodaddio4961
@heyodaddio4961 Ай бұрын
God, I wish there was more of this😅
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen Ай бұрын
Hahaha I'm glad you liked it!
@noheroespublishing1907
@noheroespublishing1907 Ай бұрын
This is a poor observation. How many actual Slave Owners were there, versus the fact that they literally raised an army of a majority of people who didn't own slaves. In the same way, you don't require everyone to be a White Supremacist for a majority of people to default fall in line with an ideology; all they have to do is nothing to oppose it, they may privately disagree, but if they don't act nobody will know or care. Numerical Minority Rule operates on low level conformity due to self preservation, not agreement necessarily, or even comprehensive understanding of a thing in itself; people support things they cannot explain or justify all the time because they may live in a cultural area that has such low level agreement built in that they never have had to actually think about it, it just goes without saying.
@sjduda
@sjduda Ай бұрын
🫶🫶🫶
@FatCaptain2006
@FatCaptain2006 Ай бұрын
Thanks for answering my questions man! Glad you like the username.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen Ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@yuriyg2714
@yuriyg2714 Ай бұрын
I made my seat reservations online using German DD app or Austrian OBB app or other national rail services like Eurostar , SNCF connect , also Eurail website with no any problems. Also did you have a problem to enter to the railway station using your QR code ticket? Do you think it’s not going to work? Thanks!
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen Ай бұрын
My QR ticket always worked so long as it loaded.
@FloriaanVdB.
@FloriaanVdB. Ай бұрын
Hi,so is it possible to use the Interrail pass as the ticket and then additionaly buy the reservation on the website of DB our obb or SNCF or ...? Or isn't it possible to buy only the reservation on these websites
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 29 күн бұрын
@@FloriaanVdB. I always bought my reservations in person at the train station when I first arrived at a destination I would be staying at for a number of days. Never bought them online, but it may be possible, I just have never done it.
@FatCaptain2006
@FatCaptain2006 2 ай бұрын
1. How far have you gotten into the Quran, and what do you think of it so far? 2. How different is reading it than reading the Bible was? 3. What translation did you choose and why? P.S. I'm curious because I've never read the Quran before, only the Bible.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
SEND ME YOUR QUESTIONS!
@RichReviews2
@RichReviews2 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations to you. here are the following questions. 1) Have you ever thought about reviewing films again. 2) If Wrestlemania ever came to Oklahoma would you ever attend. 3) Do you ever get recognized outside of youtube. 4) Would you ever consider doing stand up. 5) Will you please run for president because we need you to unite the country.
@Ditendo64
@Ditendo64 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations man!!!
@AubreyfromOregon
@AubreyfromOregon 2 ай бұрын
read this one as my 8th McCarthy book. I loved it, probably my 3rd favorite after blood meridian and the crossing. good job.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! and yeah it's a wild one...
@isabelagarcia8885
@isabelagarcia8885 2 ай бұрын
I really liked this book. I think the invisible man is a mirror of the 'evil' in every human. Invisibility is so marvelous due to the fact that it allows you to commit anything without having a presence or a face that others can criticize or point fingers at. SPOILER -kinda- The end is kind of "a monster being destroyed by the monstrosity of others". I fell short when it comes to explain all the social commentary the author makes -maybe related to the fact that he lived world war I and II, and probably was a bit disappointed in the human race-.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating interpretation! It's been years since I read it, a great concept. I wish they had adapted the book into a movie rather than stealing the title for it to make that predictable horror movie a few years ago...
@isabelagarcia8885
@isabelagarcia8885 2 ай бұрын
@@TheManOfManyMen thank you. Totally, I watched the movie and ended up disappointed. I really liked your video and the way you explained it without giving away the juicy parts of the plot.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Additional Thoughts and Notes: 1. I recognize that there is another way of looking at the name Planned Parenthood. Many would say that women should be allowed to plan when they want to be a parent and that this is what Planned Parenthood allows women to do. Still though the irony remains. Pregnant women who enter Planned Parenthood are parents: their live offspring resides in their womb. When they leave Planned Parenthood however, they are no longer parents anymore. That this phenomenon is what Planned Parenthood has become famous for is as ironic as the Ministry of Love. 2. Some Planned Parenthood defenders will argue that abortion only makes up 3% of what the organization does. This statistic is misleading when you look at how Planned Parenthood counts its services. When you take a look at the revenue the organization brings in on a yearly basis, it’s clear why abortion and Planned Parenthood are seen to be as close as a mother and daughter. Here are two articles that go into further detail on this issue. www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/05/429641062/fact-check-how-does-planned-parenthood-spend-that-government-money www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/08/12/for-planned-parenthood-abortion-stats-3-percent-and-94-percent-are-both-misleading/ 3. For a far more fleshed out look at both sides of the abortion issue, please check out my Abortion Unpacked playlist here kzfaq.info/sun/PLYqlSf0hJfBO3ybXYl_1z32KG4MLE37G6
@moondra3481
@moondra3481 2 ай бұрын
Ok so I am late to this..I just finished the audio book of this yesterday. Sighs. Such a disappointment I really enjoyed Gone Girl but this will probably be the last book I ever read from her. And by sheer luck the movie came on HBO so I went ahead and watched it it's even worse. I did feel sympathy for the mom character she was just doing her best. What I did not like was how she practically tells you at the start who the killer is and during the reveal? 🙄🙄🙄🙄 It was a no shit sherlock moment. I like your channel❤
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! And yeah it's a pretty disappointing book
@justaname999
@justaname999 2 ай бұрын
Crucially, though, you are missing an important part of argumentation, the framework and embedding in a larger construct. While it is true that there is no general cut off for when we should consider an embryo or fetus or anything, really, "viable", that is not specific to this question. Viability is inextricably linked to a larger set of constructs. You are pretending that, no matter what, a fertilized ovum that has implanted in the proper place to ensure a particular chance at development towards a fully grown fetus, is viable and that this viability is what should speak against termination. This means that there are cases in which you might be condemning the mother to be forcibly impregnated. This means there are cases where you are forcibly causing parents pain if it turns out that the fetus does not have a chance at survival. More importantly, there is a far, far larger set of frames you are ignoring: Even if you say you do not care about the personhood of the mother, or the potential pain of parents, by saying "every fertilized egg that grows to birthable size and survives birth has to be carried to term and birthed" you are disregarding the fact that there is not a valid system in place to ensure that this "viable fetus" will have a good life. There is no system to prevent malnutrition, mistreatment, abandonment, and a host of other issues. How absolutely inadequate is a philosophy that tries to argue for the viability of any stage of embryo or fetus but does not take into account what this means for the life of the child once born, or the parents once born? So first off, you did not make an actual philosophical or cognitive argument for why we should consider human life (or alien life) unique. You deflected by including aliens, while neglecting to argue for why human life should be treated as special. But even if this is true (and I get that it is), that is only true if and only if we embed human existence in human societal structures. It should also not be true that every time an egg and sperm come together to form a new potential human entity, this should supplant the unique entity's rights that has to carry the new entity to term. You made an argument pretending that human life is self-evidently unique and thus worth protecting and ignored casually that his means that you are disregarding another life. (and that you are disregarding potential issues of the new unique entity once it's born if they are not fortunate enough to be born into the right set of circumstances)
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I repeatedly made reference in this video to the fact that I had made two prior videos on abortion that this video was an addendum too. The links to those videos are in the description. Please watch them. They address nearly all of the criticisms you've made here.
@justaname999
@justaname999 2 ай бұрын
@@TheManOfManyMen The problem is, when a lengthy video on the question of "viability" already fails to accurately address viability, it does not make me hopeful for watching two more videos. I might eventually and hope that your argumentation makes more sense. But still, if this video explores a particular sub-topic, it should have feet and referencing other videos as response to a critique of a central point does not bode well.
@asdfasdf4176
@asdfasdf4176 2 ай бұрын
tbh I always thought that I would prefer to be aborted than to be born an unwanted kid
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Sorry that you've had a rough go at life so far. The abortion issue is extremely complicated as is all of life. Thank you for being one of the only people to have actually gone and watched the other videos I've made on this issue. Shows that you're a thoughtful individual who's actually interested in understanding another perspective. For that alone I am thankful you were not aborted. You've added real value to this discussion. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on other videos and issues I tackle on this channel. And if you've been unwanted by those closest to you, just know that it is their disdain, not your life, that is the problem.
@asdfasdf4176
@asdfasdf4176 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the way a fetus not value their future and the way a suicidal person not value their future is different but not sure how to explain that.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Even though I'm coming at the issue from the opposite direction, believe me, I TOTALLY relate! There's a reason philosophers often live troubled lives. They have so much to say that's so hard to explain!
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Additional Thoughts and Notes: 1. Special thanks to Johan Glidden for critiquing this video before its release. 2. My reference to the Golden Globes was not actually meant to be an attack on Michelle Williams. Her speech a few years ago was twisted and makes me feel queasy, but I actually wrote that bit about preferring a Golden Globe over a child before I saw her acceptance clip. It also must be said that her words are vague. They lead me to believe that she might’ve chosen abortion as a result of being raped. My own views on the rape issue are articulated in “Is Abortion Immoral?” I don’t know the reality behind Williams’s theatrics, but I do not want my comical depiction of an actress-murderer to be leveled at her based on that one speech she gave. Perhaps my words apply to her, but since there is so much I don’t know about her, I’m unwilling to make that judgment as of now.
@bruvance
@bruvance 2 ай бұрын
I really hate when pro-abortion people say "i would have been fine with being aborted" and if I am to take this at face value and completely true to the that persons feelings. I then ask, are you sucidal? If not, why would you be fine with never existing due to the purposeful choice of your mother. Knowing you have your existence, to be fine with never having had what you hold now, including your very own loved ones means you value yourself and your friends and your family and the whole situation around you so little, it may as well have never happened. If you dont like your life why aren't you suicidal? If everything youve done on this Earth has had so little meaning to you maybe you shouldn't exist, maybe you dont deserve the life youve been given if you cant be grateful of the effort others put into you, for you to not do anything that would warrant your own desire to live. Simply living because you dont want to die, not because you want to live. It is disgrace to be fine with your life never having occured, for there are people who are actually struggling, who actually crave death because they are mentally sick, becuase they need help, yet you'd degenerate your psychi to even partially mimic that mindset as a perfectly healthy person, just to make a offhand argument for killing the future generations in the womb because its convenient at the time. Get a grip, you breath the same air as all of us, and yet so many more who are so much more deserving stop breathing every second, yet you would be fine if you never existed. Make yourself deserving, not in my eyes but your own. If youre still fine with being aborted you have failed yourself.
@natbarmore
@natbarmore 2 ай бұрын
25:49 And to your final “question for the audience”: Yes, the arguments you cite in this video bolster the anti-abortion position. But as I said in another comment, they do _not_ address the pro-choice position, let alone weaken it (in a philosophical sense). The pro-choice and anti-abortion stances are in conflict, not diametrically opposed. So philosophical arguments that support one do not necessarily refute the other. And IME, the focus of anti-abortion philosophers (and activists who want to persuade) is primarily on shoring up their anti-abortion stance (to varying degrees of success) and not on understanding _why_ people are pro-choice or on addressing those reasons. Pro-choice philosophers (and activists who want to persuade), IME, _are_ aware of the anti-abortion arguments, and spend a lot of energy attempting to refute them. But it’s not because those arguments undermine their pro-choice ideology; it’s because they _have_ to refute those arguments, lest they become law.
@natbarmore
@natbarmore 2 ай бұрын
Like, here’s an example: I would not want someone else to tell me whether I can have a child or when. I would not want someone else to tell me whether the risks to my health and life from being pregnant are sufficiently dire to merit addressing. I would not want someone else (other than a doctor I have seen and trust) to tell me whether or not I can get medically appropriate care. I would not want someone else to decide for me that I must get or remain pregnant , or that I must have a child. I would not want someone else to impose their religious view of the world or their belief in the supernatural upon me. So, by the Golden Rule, I should not seek to make any of those decisions for someone else, or impose my idea of the correct decisions/answers/beliefs in any of those situations on someone else. Thus, in order to be philosophically consistent, I _must_ be pro-choice on the question of abortion, and should be opposed to any legislation that makes those decisions for others.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I've read all of your comments on this video and it is clear to me that you did not watch the previous two videos in this series on abortion that I specifically referenced throughout this video and in my question to the audience. The links to, "Is Abortion Reasonable?" and "Is Abortion Immoral?" can be found in the description of this video. Please go and watch them before writing anymore comments. You spent a great deal of time criticizing this video when almost all of your criticisms are addressed in the previous videos. I am going to literally reply to all of your other comments by using this comment. I made the suggestion several times on camera, but I guess that wasn't enough. So here's the suggestion three more times. Watch the other videos, watch the other videos, watch the other videos.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I've read all of your comments on this video and it is clear to me that you did not watch the previous two videos in this series on abortion that I specifically referenced throughout this video and in my question to the audience. The links to, "Is Abortion Reasonable?" and "Is Abortion Immoral?" can be found in the description of this video. Please go and watch them before writing anymore comments. You spent a great deal of time criticizing this video when almost all of your criticisms are addressed in the previous videos. I am going to literally reply to all of your other comments by using this comment. I made the suggestion several times on camera, but I guess that wasn't enough. So here's the suggestion three more times. Watch the other videos, watch the other videos, watch the other videos.
@natbarmore
@natbarmore 2 ай бұрын
25:23 he might be right about a hypothetical “pro-abortionist”. But that’s an easy strawman because such people basically don’t exist. What _do_ exist are lots of _pro-choice_ people (roughly 2/3 to 85% of the adult US population, depending on some definitions): people who are not, in fact, in favor of abortion, but also believe that they can’t tell other people what is right (morally or practically) on this matter. - - - - I frequently find that anti-abortion activists (and the quoted paper comes across as written by one, particularly that conclusion) fundamentally misunderstand _why_ people are pro-choice, and therefore spend a great deal of effort making arguments that, even if they are irrefutably persuasive to pro-choice people, will have zero impact on their pro-choice position. Because the argument being made isn’t attacking any of the reasons the person is pro-choice. This is one of those arguments. It is completely caught up in the misconception that people are pro-choice because they think that an abortion is no big deal ethically, or is an inherent moral good, or because they are absolutely certain that a fetus isn’t a person, or because they wish to be strictly morally consistent across all situations. None* of the arguments cited in this video address the _real_ reason most people are pro-choice: because they believe that pregnant people should still have bodily autonomy even though they’re pregnant; and/or because they believe that an abortion is an extremely complex moral situation ,with no clear right answer that applies to all or even most situations, and which therefore can’t be legislated beyond basic medical requirements. People mostly aren’t pro-choice because they’re certain that a fetus isn’t a person, so if you just persuade them that a fetus is, they’ll change their mind. People mostly aren’t pro-choice because they have carefully analyzed all of their moral stances to assure consistency according to a textbook philosophy. People mostly don’t _care_ if their ethical stances are consistent-faced with an inconsistency they are far more likely to come up with an explanation (or rationalization) than to change their views. These are all arguments based on the assumption that someone is pro-choice because they are ignorant in some way, and they assume that it is a lazy or unconsidered opinion. They seem to come from people who are anti-abortion and are certain that whatever persuaded them to be anti-abortion is universally persuasive (sometimes because they see it as Divine Truth), and so the only way someone could be _not_ anti-abortion is if they have never heard, or have heard but misunderstood, these arguments. They apparently can’t conceive of the possibility that someone could fully grasp these arguments _and reject them._ That the pro-choice person could be just as well-informed and come to a different moral position on this topic. Or, more broadly, that there can be situations where reasonable, reasoning, moral people could be equally and fully aware of a situation and come to conflicting conclusions. That there could be more than one right answer without anyone having to operate in bad faith, be ignorant, or be evil. * Not quite “none”: The argument about the respect we give to human corpses actually _does_ address a pro-choice argument. But it supports it.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I've read all of your comments on this video and it is clear to me that you did not watch the previous two videos in this series on abortion that I specifically referenced throughout this video and in my question to the audience. The links to, "Is Abortion Reasonable?" and "Is Abortion Immoral?" can be found in the description of this video. Please go and watch them before writing anymore comments. You spent a great deal of time criticizing this video when almost all of your criticisms are addressed in the previous videos. I am going to literally reply to all of your other comments by using this comment. I made the suggestion several times on camera, but I guess that wasn't enough. So here's the suggestion three more times. Watch the other videos, watch the other videos, watch the other videos.
@natbarmore
@natbarmore 2 ай бұрын
24:44 overgeneralization is making Ginsler’s argument sloppy. He claims that there is _no_ meaningful difference depending on the act or when it is performed. With the blindness, a self-aware person would have to live with that blindness and its consequences. With the killing of a person after birth, a distinct, self-aware person would have ceased to be. It is unclear whether a fetus, let alone an embryo, has self-awareness as a distinct being. It’s pretty clear medically that a zygote or blastocyst does not. So the end result is _not_ the same. Killing the person after birth has the end result of that person now being dead _and of a living person with independent agency having ceased to be._ From the perspective of the pro-choice person, aborting them as a fetus still ends up with them currently not alive, but they will’ve never been a person with independent agency, so they will not have lost that. It’s _not_ an identical outcome.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I've read all of your comments on this video and it is clear to me that you did not watch the previous two videos in this series on abortion that I specifically referenced throughout this video and in my question to the audience. The links to, "Is Abortion Reasonable?" and "Is Abortion Immoral?" can be found in the description of this video. Please go and watch them before writing anymore comments. You spent a great deal of time criticizing this video when almost all of your criticisms are addressed in the previous videos. I am going to literally reply to all of your other comments by using this comment. I made the suggestion several times on camera, but I guess that wasn't enough. So here's the suggestion three more times. Watch the other videos, watch the other videos, watch the other videos.
@keithwilliams7275
@keithwilliams7275 2 ай бұрын
There was a movie made of the same name called "Intensity" one the best tv series of all time. The movie "High Tension" rips this book and the movie off. Dean Koontz is always popping out great books. Check out "The Bad Place" "Innocence" and Life Expectancy".
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Thanks I'll have to check out that book!
@natbarmore
@natbarmore 2 ай бұрын
14:31 Ginsler’s Kantian argument relies on similarity and generalizability. It brings to mind an interview with a priest (pastor? I forget the denomination) I heard a few years ago. He was talking about how and why he had reevaluated his anti-abortion stance and now considered himself pro-choice. And what he said was (paraphrasing from memory) “I came to see that every situation was different. Every pregnancy, every mother, every child, every circumstance. Maybe they were all made of the same components, but to craft a law that could account for all the possible combinations and permutations would be impossible, and there might be so many _meaningful_ variables that if such a law _could_ be crafted, there would _never_ be two people in the same situation. At which point any such law or moral rule would degenerate to meaninglessness, because no generalization could be made. And if we can’t look at Person X to determine what’s right for Person Y, how can someone who isn’t Person Y tell them what the right thing to do is?” He was making the core pro-choice argument: that only the people involved in the situation-chiefly the pregnant person and a doctor with relevant medical expertise, but also anyone else they _wanted_ to involve, such as family or religious counselors-are in a position to decide what is the right thing to do. But in the process he was implicitly critiquing his previous Kantian position by arguing that his ideological belief that this was a situation with meaningful generalities was naively unrealistic. Or, as I would put it: a Kantian argument about abortion is at best in “spherical cows in a vacuum” territory: it’s a clear argument precisely because it’s not useful in the real world.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I've read all of your comments on this video and it is clear to me that you did not watch the previous two videos in this series on abortion that I specifically referenced throughout this video and in my question to the audience. The links to, "Is Abortion Reasonable?" and "Is Abortion Immoral?" can be found in the description of this video. Please go and watch them before writing anymore comments. You spent a great deal of time criticizing this video when almost all of your criticisms are addressed in the previous videos. I am going to literally reply to all of your other comments by using this comment. I made the suggestion several times on camera, but I guess that wasn't enough. So here's the suggestion three more times. Watch the other videos, watch the other videos, watch the other videos.
@natbarmore
@natbarmore 2 ай бұрын
11:24 If the threshold and attendant moral obligation is due to intelligence, where’s the line? We don’t need to invoke hypothetical extraterrestrials to test that argument - why is it ok to kill parrots, crows, octopuses, pigs, cats, dogs, apes, dolphins, orcas, or whales (to name some of the most-intelligent species, each of which probably overlaps the range of human intelligence)?
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I've read all of your comments on this video and it is clear to me that you did not watch the previous two videos in this series on abortion that I specifically referenced throughout this video and in my question to the audience. The links to, "Is Abortion Reasonable?" and "Is Abortion Immoral?" can be found in the description of this video. Please go and watch them before writing anymore comments. You spent a great deal of time criticizing this video when almost all of your criticisms are addressed in the previous videos. I am going to literally reply to all of your other comments by using this comment. I made the suggestion several times on camera, but I guess that wasn't enough. So here's the suggestion three more times. Watch the other videos, watch the other videos, watch the other videos.
@natbarmore
@natbarmore 2 ай бұрын
8:30 Please point at the person(s) making a serious argument that (1) we have moral obligations to human corpses that are akin to those we have towards living people (2) _because_ they are the corpses of formerly living people (and not, say, because of a societal desire to make the hiding of murders more difficult), and also (3) arguing that we have _no_ moral obligations to fetuses. I’ve certainly never encountered such a person. I’ve encountered people arguing that we’re overly sentimental about corpses , or arguing that we shouldn’t need any permission to harvest organs from a deceased body because they’re not a person anymore. And I’ve encountered people arguing that _despite_ any moral obligations we have to a fetus, we _also_ have moral obligations to the pregnant person, and if there is a conflict between those two, the person who is definitively an independent being with agency and free will ought to carry more moral weight than the being without clear agency and with unclear status on multiple axes (psychological, developmental, intellectual, moral, and legal). What you just described sounds like a strawman I’ve encountered a couple anti-abortion activists claiming that pro-choice folks believe, but not something I’ve ever heard pro-choice folks espouse.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I've read all of your comments on this video and it is clear to me that you did not watch the previous two videos in this series on abortion that I specifically referenced throughout this video and in my question to the audience. The links to, "Is Abortion Reasonable?" and "Is Abortion Immoral?" can be found in the description of this video. Please go and watch them before writing anymore comments. You spent a great deal of time criticizing this video when almost all of your criticisms are addressed in the previous videos. I am going to literally reply to all of your other comments by using this comment. I made the suggestion several times on camera, but I guess that wasn't enough. So here's the suggestion three more times. Watch the other videos, watch the other videos, watch the other videos.
@sarahlocklar7847
@sarahlocklar7847 2 ай бұрын
Are you someone who is capable of becoming pregnant? Do we really need some random dude that will never have to directly face this issue himself to share his opinion? We already have plenty of that. It's called the US government. I don't want to act like you don't have every right to have an opinion and share it. You're a free human. On the surface, there is nothing wrong with sharing your opinion. But in a big picture sense, is sharing your opinion actually helping fetus bearing humans stay safe and in possession of rights to their own body? Let's give the fetus bearing humans the mic on this one. We have enough old white men trying to make us believe that we as women are nothing but baby factories put on this earth for their pleasure and service.
@bruvance
@bruvance 2 ай бұрын
I like the argument from a position of uncertainty. That we ourselves do not know the nature of humanity, how we can exist, and be conscious, and be a person is simply a mystery, and it is just so wrong to tamper with human life on the very edges of human understanding. One thing is certain, by having an abortion, you are directly killing a future person.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I think you'd really find the previous two videos interesting if you haven't checked them out already. Thanks for your comment!
@bruvance
@bruvance 2 ай бұрын
I wish the conversation began at conception, but the left make dumb equivocies like if abortion is murder jerking off is genocide. This is a stupid and unphilosophical suggestion because a sperm cell is a sex cell, it has 23 chromosomes, and by itself can never grow into a fully developed baby, and is not a baby, because it is merely half of a blueprint, half of a genetic code. When sperm and egg merge they (usually) hold 46 chromosomes, and can now generate into a baby, and may already be a baby if brought to the simplest definition of a baby (that i can think of). A developing/growing human that is less than 1 or 3 years old (I'd still consider toddlers babies). Lemme know if you want my argument for abortion being wrong I dont feel like typing it right now.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
If you want to present your argument by all means do! I appreciate your contribution to the conversation.
@natbarmore
@natbarmore 2 ай бұрын
6:04 hold up: if you’re going to raise the question of whether a child is a person, and should be given full moral weight and recognized as having independent agency, you should probably talk about _who_ is making that argument. The only folks I’ve ever encountered arguing that children don’t have full moral weight as independent beings are religious conservatives arguing that parents should have [near-]absolute authority over their children. IOW, the same philosophical group (though not necessarily the same exact individuals) arguing for the personhood of zygotes/embryos/fetuses. To the degree those two positions are held by the same people (and IME, it’s like 90%), such folks are arguing that a zygote/embryo/fetus is person enough to be protected from a parent having an abortion, but not so much of a person that they can assert interests contrary to their parents’ wishes once they’re born (and therefore able to assert interests at all). If they’re not just contradicting themselves, they’re either asserting a weird squishy moral position in the middle where abortion is definitely an immoral killing, murder is usually immoral (except when it’s justified), but _allowing_ a child to die can sometimes be justified and pretty much any form of abuse short of death is a parent’s prerogative. They usually don’t consider what they are condoning to _be_ abuse, but we’ve got pretty solid measures to show they’re wrong, and sometimes they acknowledge it is abuse and _still_ say that parents have that right.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I've read all of your comments on this video and it is clear to me that you did not watch the previous two videos in this series on abortion that I specifically referenced throughout this video and in my question to the audience. The links to, "Is Abortion Reasonable?" and "Is Abortion Immoral?" can be found in the description of this video. Please go and watch them before writing anymore comments. You spent a great deal of time criticizing this video when almost all of your criticisms are addressed in the previous videos. I am going to literally reply to all of your other comments by using this comment. I made the suggestion several times on camera, but I guess that wasn't enough. So here's the suggestion three more times. Watch the other videos, watch the other videos, watch the other videos.
@Zren89
@Zren89 2 ай бұрын
I don't have a womb. Nor do you (I assume) so maybe we should just let the people with wombs handle this one. My two cents.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I have plans to make two videos focusing on arguments on bodily autonomy for and against abortion in the future. Probably won't get to them until next year though. With that being said, the previous two videos in this series are linked in the description. They take a closer look at the meat of the abortion issue more so than this video. So if you have the time, I suggest you check them out.
@josephvictory9536
@josephvictory9536 2 ай бұрын
Women are divided on this issue as well, and use the same arguments as men because well, morality is a mental thing, nothing to do with wombs. Worse if someone told me they were thinking with their womb, i would tend to believe they were saying nonsense. We also have a vote. politically speaking. Its also a bit like saying the vote to keep doing slavery should be left to the slave holders since they are the ones who go through the trouble of ownership. Unfortunately we cannot get the babies view, so its actually more or less like saying that. Today i went to see an ultrasound with my pregnant wife, and on it i saw my babies face for the first time. I think I have every right to comment on the matter as that is my son i saw. While my wife would never abort, the mere thought that a world exists where she could do so for something as trivial as feelings is very upsetting. Yet here we are in that world. Power is something taken and fought for. If a man is upset enough then *might will make right*. Just as women have gotten away with murder. There is no situation where a mans opinion can be rightfully discounted except for where he chooses not to go or where he lacks the power to enforce it. This is the natural right of man. We all should defend the innocent. While the innocence of a particular person is up for debate. The unborn person is innocent. Having an opinion on them being killed is a normal and healthy thing in any morally healthy society.
@Zren89
@Zren89 2 ай бұрын
​@@josephvictory9536 no it's like saying the slaves should decide whether or not to be slaves...how in the world could you think otherwise?
@josephvictory9536
@josephvictory9536 2 ай бұрын
@Zren89 because the 'slaves' you are talking about, aren't being murdered. I have a friend who survived abortion. Rare fellow. He likes his life now and his biological mother has made amends. Funny how life is like that. We ignore the obvious things. Women aren't slaves, to man or to biology any more than all humans are. But women are killing unborn and we cannot get their opinions. My position is not controversial or even a little bit strange. If you wait maybe 5 years to get the unborn opinion maybe you would find they don't want to die.
@luka1194
@luka1194 2 ай бұрын
Your short section about the bodily autonomy argument is a misunderstanding of the point. People are aware that some will argue that the fetus bodily autonomy counts, too. The argument (at least for me) is that it is immoral to force someone to use their bodily resources for someone else. Otherwise I could be forced to give blood and an kidney, which sounds like an dystopian nightmare. At least thats the short version.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Read pinned comment, and I should also say that I have plans to create two videos addressing Judith Jarvis Thompson's violinist argument on bodily autonomy in the future. Probably won't get to those projects till next year though.
@JoeMama-gi1so
@JoeMama-gi1so 2 ай бұрын
A better comparison would be you being forced to give blood and a kidney to someone you had stabbed and removed a kidney from. With most abortions, the pregnancy was most likely a result of consensual sex, this is why anyone who has thought about it for longer than 10 seconds can realize that the violinist argument is not valid or applicable, unless the pregnancy was a result of rape, which is a minority of cases.
@Olks
@Olks 2 ай бұрын
For me there are two weaknesses in this line of reasoning. 1. Does it really make sense that the rights of a fetus should take precedence over the right the mother has over her own body? Pregnancy and birth are both dangerous, or can be depending on the situation. If there were incubation pods that the fetuses could be moved to as an alternative to abortion, I would argue that deciding to abort a seemingly healthy fetus would be immoral. When the baby is born, they can be adopted if the parents cannot or will not take care of it, that is currently not an option until that point. 2. I can imagine situations where I would consent to myself being aborted and avoided great suffering as a child. If my parents had aborted their first child and tried again 5-10 years later when they were financially capable, my oldest sibling would not have had to spend years living in spaces unfit for humans. Do I love them as they are, yes. Would I have done anything to prevent the suffering they went through, of course.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I have plans to make two videos specifically addressing the "violinist argument" which is perhaps the most famous argument for bodily autonomy regarding abortion. Probably won't get to making those videos till next year though. With that being said, the previous two videos in this series are linked in the description. They touch on some of the things you say in your comment and take a closer look at the meat of the abortion issue more so than this video. So if you have the time, i suggest you check them out.
@Critic115
@Critic115 2 ай бұрын
I have 2 main problems with the "Golden Rule", firstly on the assumption we wouldn't want to be aborted... have you met a mil/z? That's like our go to thing. Secondly: the difference I see is what you're taking. If you kill me, an adult, you're taking away all the good things in my life and things I could do. As a fetus though; you're preventing all the bad things from happening. And at this point in my life, I'm honestly not sure which side I'd land on.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I'm 25 and a part of Gen Z. In response to your second assertion, please check out the previous two videos in this series which are linked in the description. The second video "Is Abortion Immoral," in particular has to do with the value of a human future and it being robbed. I think you'll find the videos nuanced and interesting. Thanks for your comment.
@josephvictory9536
@josephvictory9536 2 ай бұрын
Think of it from another perspective. You would not want your friend to be killed. And would certainly rue the thought. That being at birth is just a question of timing since the reality of your friendship is abundant. And if your friend were depressed and wanting to kill himself, you would try to council him, let him know he is loved and blessed. You want him to live because love in its selfishness is selfless. So then the idea that a person is not worth living, or not worth being born is an idea formed from abuse. Abuse can come from two places (really 3) the self, and the other. If your friend was suicidal because of abuse, you would hate the abuser. And if it were because of depression you would try to fight whatever invisible thing is smothering his will to live as if it were a mortal enemy of yours. Because it is. Only your enemies want to kill your friends however invisible. Now consider that every aborted person will make friends. Every aborted person, even if they would be depressed, or abused, would still be alive and make friends. And that these friends would fight for them. Now consider if you are suicidal, how you, in your own reasoning would fight for yourself out of love if you could even see yourself from the view of a friends eye. And even if you dont have friends right now, you would have them or did have them. That the very call of pain implies your body knows, wants and yearns for the antidote which it must be able to feel in order to be able to feel pain at all. And even if you found that a hard thing, you can still see yourself as a person, even if you abuse that person a lot with bad thoughts. Then you can go against the thoughts that come from the abuser you; in need of reform. Its clear, there is no position from which the value of life is taken, where it isnt taken from abuse or the death of love. And if you do not feel moved by the abuse, since abuses are common, you should feel moved by the motive; that being the death of love. And its opposite; the love of a friend thus proving that at a fundamental level this kind of thing is wrong.
@allisone159
@allisone159 2 ай бұрын
The pro choice argument is not and has never been that viability is the line because that's when the fetus becomes a person. It's about whether or not a woman should be forced to sustain another life against her will and at the sacrifice of her own health. In the Brave New World example abortion would be immoral because we could just sustain the fetus in a test tube and give the baby to an infertile couple. Forced birth is immoral for the same reason you can opt out of being an organ donnor; the state can't force you to sacrifice your body to maintain another life. (This is also why I'm against the draft.)
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I have plans to make two videos on the most famous bodily autonomy argument commonly referred to as "the violinist argument." Probably won't get to making those videos till next year though. With that being said, the previous two videos in this series are linked in the description. They take a closer look at the meat of the abortion issue more so than this video. If you check them out I think you'll concede that there is way more to the abortion issue than bodily autonomy. So if you have the time, I suggest you check them out. Thanks for your comment.
@thrawn82
@thrawn82 2 ай бұрын
Something to consider: Conception is not where uniqueness begins. Due to the process of crossing over during meiosis, each individual egg and sperm cell is also a new and unique combination of genetic material. If the justification for granting personhood to a zygote is it's genetic uniqueness, that justification also extends to unfertilized eggs and individual spermatozoa, and drawing a line between gametes and zygote based on the uniqueness of the genetic material is still an arbitrary distinction. edit with additional thoughts: The golden rule argument i think cuts both ways a little if the pregnant woman is included in the consideration. I am thankful to have not been aborted by a loving mother who consented to be pregnant with me. I do not think it is a given that i would be thankful had i been born to a mother who was forced against her will to carry me or who i injured with my gestation. I view this moral question in the same way as this scenario: I would be extremely thankful to have someone willingly donate a liver lobe or kidney to me, but I would not find it morally acceptable to take it against their will even to preserve my own life. Gensler's kantian argument only really works in a philosophical vacuum where pregnancy occurs on its own, or if you consider the pregnant woman to be a non-person except from moral consideration.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment. I suggest you watch the previous two videos in this series linked in the description. In the pinned comment of the second video "Is Abortion Immoral" is a link to an abridged version of Don Marquis's paper. In it at one point he address the point you just made about sperm and eggs. I think his defense that they are not morally equivalent to a fertilized zygote is compelling. Also I believe that if you view Gensler's argument not in a vacuum separated from my prior videos, it is much more compelling. Thanks for your comment.
@lornenoland8098
@lornenoland8098 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. “Viability” is the absolute worst metric… except all the others, so far.
@natbarmore
@natbarmore 2 ай бұрын
My take on viability as a dividing line: If the fetus is viable, then we don’t have to have an abortion argument at all. Induce early labor, let the person or persons (or the state as proxy for all of us) take over caring for that now-born child, and the mother need have nothing more to do with the child. If the argument is that it can live independent of the mother, and the mother doesn’t want the child, then we don’t have to keep the child and mother connected. And if we can’t actually do that, then I’d argue that’s not actually the “line of viability”. Just because a few fetuses have been birthed that early (or removed due to trauma or similar) and managed to survive due to extraordinary measures and a good bit of luck doesn’t mean that’s a meaningful age. The line of viability has absolutely gotten earlier, but we should be defining it at the point of _likely_ survival, not _possible_ survival. I.E., the gestational age at which, I dunno, 50%, or 2/3, or 90%, or 99% can survive, given appropriate care.
@JoJo-wq9cp
@JoJo-wq9cp 2 ай бұрын
You do make a good point about treating others the way you would want to be treated, however I do think that you missed the point of the abortion debate entirely. (I have not watched your other two videos, so I can only speak for this one.) The abortion debate was never about the personhood of the child. It is about whether or not it is morally acceptable to put a birthing/pregnant person through pregnancy or not. Is it acceptable to let them stay pregnant if said pregnancy is going to cause them physical harm (often to the point of death), mental harm (i.e. post partum depression, having been raped and now having to deal with the unwanted pregnancy, etc), financial harm (can't afford child care, food, housing, etc), and so on. It is not acceptable to take a person's organs after their death if they did not consent to it. Again, the golden rule. But apparently you would have wanted your mother to have suffered and potentially died just because you are now glad to be alive? That's putting two lifes on a scale and deciding that yours is worth more than hers. It does not matter if a fetus is a person or not. You cannot ask a fetus if they consent to an abortion. You can also not ask deceased person if they agree to their will being violated. However a dead person has lived a life and decided what is to be done with their possessions. A fetus has not lived. It cannot think, cannot survive without the woumb or sufficient technology, it can logically not consent to anything. I read the comment by the woman pregnant with twins, and even she said she does not think of her babies as persons, because they are not yet born. Of course you can have your opinion, and i can have mine. But like i said, I think you missed the point. This is about bodily autonomy, not personhood. Whether or not anyone thinks a fetus is a person or not is utterly irrelevant, because it is the decicion of the pregnant person whether or not to continue the pregnancy or not.
@json17
@json17 2 ай бұрын
His other two videos address most of these points.
@json17
@json17 2 ай бұрын
Also, saying that the debate was never about the personhood of the fetus is not true. It became about the personhood of the fetus when pro lifers brought it up as a concern that by aborting fetuses, we are killing people. A debate is about whatever people are debating, in this case the debate on how legal abortion should be is very complicated in nuanced. Sometimes people argue about personhood, sometimes they do not.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
I have plans to make two videos focusing on arguments on bodily autonomy for and against abortion in the future. Probably won't get to them until next year though. "A Defense of Abortion" by Judith Jarvis Thompson, also called "the violinist argument is what I will be focusing on the most. With that being said, the previous two videos in this series are linked in the description. They take a closer look at the meat of the abortion issue more so than this video. If you check them out I think your claim that personhood is "utterly irrelevant" will not stand. I think you will also concede that I did not "miss the point," I simply made many points in two videos that you missed when you wrote your comment. Sorry for being snappy, but virtually all of the comments criticizing this video have been identical because those who wrote them didn't take the time to understand my fuller position before criticizing it.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! You're like the one person who heard me reference the other videos.
@TheManOfManyMen
@TheManOfManyMen 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your thoughtful comment.