SF6 Ed Guide: Knockdowns and Oki
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How to Beat Guile with Marisa
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@kevinmccauley8992
@kevinmccauley8992 Күн бұрын
EXACTLY what I was looking for
@DharmaPunkGames
@DharmaPunkGames 4 күн бұрын
Loving these Bison videos. Such good core content. Nine minutes of gold
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 4 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@DharmaPunkGames
@DharmaPunkGames 4 күн бұрын
What a cool sequence, going to wrench on this right now, thanks man
@ulquio232
@ulquio232 11 күн бұрын
Great Tech, but you use the natural Back Fist which means that you have no retreat. But if we put it in a combo like 5MP>2MP>Light Back Fist, there is a certain step backwards and therefore it's a little more complicated
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 11 күн бұрын
It shouldn’t matter. Fairly certain I tested it out of combos and nothing changed.
@georgegao1408
@georgegao1408 11 күн бұрын
i thought anything canceled into LK scissors kick is punishable by 5 framer
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 11 күн бұрын
Mostly this will be true, but it’s all spacing and matchup dependent. Not every character has a five frame button that has good range or any sort of conversion.
@boss_301
@boss_301 11 күн бұрын
Great tech 👍🏾
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 11 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Hoodoojuju82
@Hoodoojuju82 12 күн бұрын
Thanks bud, gonna use this
@albanschw4170
@albanschw4170 12 күн бұрын
Amazing work bro, keep finding those ! 🫶
@rric4556
@rric4556 12 күн бұрын
You gotta take this down. Giving them bison players too much power 😂
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 12 күн бұрын
Probably true. It’s very good against characters without a DP.
@WeeabooDojo
@WeeabooDojo 12 күн бұрын
Love this frame kill set up seems super powerful I’m excited to test it out 😤 thanks for the information very helpful ❤
@TheMibbsyful
@TheMibbsyful 12 күн бұрын
good set up and video but you should cut at least most of the combo failures
@Flashlegz
@Flashlegz 12 күн бұрын
I think at this point it's his trademark
@prawnyb
@prawnyb 12 күн бұрын
Bison is a tricksy prick
@zyklonhousu
@zyklonhousu 15 күн бұрын
So awesome to have your quality stuff on bison also
@MasterChibi
@MasterChibi 15 күн бұрын
You think you can possibly help an aspiring Marisa player figure out what her combos are now, or are they roughly the same?
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 15 күн бұрын
The vast majority of her routes are the same. My video on essential combos is still a good starting point.
@MasterChibi
@MasterChibi 15 күн бұрын
@@ZachHenke Thank you kindly!
@Emiridian
@Emiridian 16 күн бұрын
As someone who just made Plat with Ed, I really appreciate this info. This is exactly the kind of low/mid level knowledge I feel like I need!
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 16 күн бұрын
Awesome! Glad to be helpful!
@semantik95
@semantik95 18 күн бұрын
I mean you say that you can't imagine why someone might get hit by the normal safe jump, and you correctly point out that people get hit by it all the time. But I mean if people know it's a safe jump setup, they have to parry some of the time to because it's their only really way out without opening themselves up to empty jump low mixups or significant guaranteed drive chip. Thus, any character literally has to threaten empty jump throw to even make the safe jump viable at high level. That's why even good players get hit by it and why it's a big deal to forego that payoff on hit fire the charged heavy version. Charged heavy version is still good, I'm just saying you should keep both in your pocket depending on your read on opponents defense.
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 18 күн бұрын
People get hit by it, but I’ve never seen someone get hit by it in tournament. Certainly people will try to perfect parry occasionally, but that will never result in them getting hit by the safe jump. And if they read empty jump into throw they should be picking an option that will block the safe jump and still escape the throw.
@semantik95
@semantik95 15 күн бұрын
@@ZachHenke I mean....what options are we talking about that will do that? Like, fuzzy jump? pretty hard to do that. Am I missing something obvious?
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 15 күн бұрын
@@semantik95 Delay tech?
@prawnyb
@prawnyb 18 күн бұрын
Like this content. Subscribed 👍 0:18
@Kusanagi2k
@Kusanagi2k 19 күн бұрын
Bro Zach I didn't know this was here! You definitely should hop on more Discord servers to advertise your stuff. I needed this
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 19 күн бұрын
Thanks. To be honest I’d completely forgotten that I’d made this video.
@Droptima1
@Droptima1 19 күн бұрын
Awesome tech as always! Definitely using this at EVO. Save us Marisa mains. A piece of tech you might want to go over next video is: 6MPHK standing reset mix after combo'd 623+PP in corner! It's tech I've been using forever but too lazy to make a new video on XD. After they splat the wall from OD superman punch the 6MP hits and causes a standing flip out while the HK part whiffs and frame kills, leaving you with +13(14?). This lets you 50/50 with command throw or MK. The MK is +3 meaty which puts you at +1 on block and +7 on hit...meaning MPMP full combos it. The animation of 6MPHKs whiff also makes it very hard to tell which option you chose, this is really important to masking the command throw stance transition as it almost looks like you're just recovering to neutral at first. An opponent must use an invincible move or DReversal to beat both options. Both options also beat DI since MK recovers in time! Practical set up to test: (corner) 4HP > 214HP~6HP, 2[HP], DR 4HP > 623+PP, 6MPHK, MK/command throw mix,
@geeflow6669
@geeflow6669 19 күн бұрын
Thanks for the Marisa content. I don’t have enough time to lab like I used to back in college so this kind of content is appreciated. My cfn is Go2Work since I’m always at work. Kind of jealous of ppl who have time to play this game enough to lab. But thanks for this content 🫡 you’re doing Zeus’ work brother keep it up
@zzz-.
@zzz-. 20 күн бұрын
He is the best
@acordes157
@acordes157 20 күн бұрын
As a Marisa player grinding through diamond ranks this channel feels like a cheat code and I love it. Awesome vid as always!
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 20 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@tragicblvd
@tragicblvd 20 күн бұрын
I’m ngl I don’t play this game much anymore, but I just watch these tech videos cause I like the flow of them and I wanna see Marisa. Thnk you for the great vid Zach🫡
@bryansnaylor
@bryansnaylor 20 күн бұрын
This video is brimming with tech almost as much as Marisa's muscles are brimming with powerful meaty buttons. Watching this as I practice it
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 20 күн бұрын
Bulging with tech.
@bryansnaylor
@bryansnaylor 20 күн бұрын
@@ZachHenke you said it
@ThatsMrGat
@ThatsMrGat 20 күн бұрын
CURSE YOU, BISON
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 20 күн бұрын
Hearing this in the Elden Ring “Bayle!” voice in my head.
@cenglish7240
@cenglish7240 20 күн бұрын
Thanks Zach! Just a possible idea, maybe you could do a series like "how to beat grapplers/shotos/charge/zoner archetypes" with Marisa or it could just be specific match ups that are harder for her. It could maybe broadly explore their character's game plan and a possible game plan for a Marisa player to bring to the table. I've found that my usual game plan fails against certain archetypes (like Blanka or Manon) and I wind up improvising the whole time. Edit- Maybe you could even do some ranked analyzing of a match or two from Masters to help with this idea. I've noticed some Marisa's spam Gladius to check the space in some match ups but seem to just stop doing them against others.
@AN-vs5pb
@AN-vs5pb 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for the Marisa content. Always appreciated
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 20 күн бұрын
It will keep coming. Definitely going to be some Bison stuff, too for a little bit.
@BIG_G_512
@BIG_G_512 20 күн бұрын
You are writing the Marisa bible
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 20 күн бұрын
That's kind of the goal. To be able to give the playlist to someone who doesn't know how to play the character and to have them pick her up.
@SirHiraMane
@SirHiraMane 20 күн бұрын
Omg thank you Zach…I been struggling in Master rank lately 😢
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for engaging!
@luigiwiiUU
@luigiwiiUU 20 күн бұрын
bro is megamind irl
@TaylorL4664
@TaylorL4664 20 күн бұрын
All of your tech is amazing, I have trouble applying it. I would love a video of gameplay where you give advice to the Marisa and include where different tech would have applied. I watch my replays and sometimes have a hard time identifying what I did wrong and what I could have done instead. Correcting/updating priorities. Thank you for being so responsive.
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 20 күн бұрын
I have quite a few match analysis videos where I do exactly that. I look at players of lots of different skill levels, too. I actually have a Google form that I need to share to request analysis.
@TaylorL4664
@TaylorL4664 20 күн бұрын
@@ZachHenke You're the best. Apologies for the laziness. *furious video watching*
@marcmcfatter3045
@marcmcfatter3045 21 күн бұрын
I was just looking to add this more to my game! I was talking with a fellow Marisa last night that pointed out the strengths of it. One thing is that since people are so conditioned to perfect parry safejumps for the most part (and you're charging a huge attack), manually timing a whiff can be really strong! You're -4 on their wakeup, but the only way they can punish is if they were mashing their 4 frame on wakeup; since that means they would have been cracked if you didn't whiff, you're safe from all offense that isn't a hard read. If you see that they parried thinking you'd hit, you get a punish counter command grab on reaction!
@Hoodoojuju82
@Hoodoojuju82 21 күн бұрын
Thank you again Zach!
@furian86
@furian86 21 күн бұрын
My biggest struggle at the minute is people that constantly Drive Reversal, more so on block than recovery. Not sure if it’s sufficient enough subject for a video but if you have any tips I would appreciate it.
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 21 күн бұрын
There’s not much to do about people doing drive reversal on block. The important thing to remember is they don’t get any pressure on that knockdown and they had to spend drive gauge. So if you can get back in you can get them very close to burnout and force a mistake.
@furian86
@furian86 21 күн бұрын
It just very frustrating to play against and even if you bait the Drive Reversal the reward is pitiful. I know what you’re saying amount then losing meter but a lot of time it’s tricky to get straight back in and get them to burn out. I will keep working on it, or uninstall lol. One or the other :p.
@steven2brazu
@steven2brazu 21 күн бұрын
JP matchup guide please😢
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 21 күн бұрын
I do have a video on my channel that goes over the basics of that MU. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jquparqg3JO6oYE.htmlsi=9lKZabGVVBGPAeWS
@steven2brazu
@steven2brazu 21 күн бұрын
@@ZachHenke 😍
@LucianRudeboy
@LucianRudeboy 21 күн бұрын
First! Great stuff as always. I actually labbed this a bit a few weeks back to try to get back to the same loop but I didn't explore other options
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@DJDizzy8
@DJDizzy8 21 күн бұрын
I love this type of info but it does not work at low level for me personally. I'm currently a Plat 1 and I have to prepare for the most absurd options after I do a blockstring. It's straight comedy. I have a high level mentality but low level execution. 🤣 Imma get better in time.
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 21 күн бұрын
Yeah, if people don’t know when things are negative or have an idea of which buttons they want to press to challenge some of this stuff won’t work. That being said, at your level if you learn strong oki and develop a good sense of when the opponent wants to break out with a DP, you’ll rank up in no time.
@adk5980
@adk5980 21 күн бұрын
Do you ever stream on twitch man?
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 21 күн бұрын
Not on twitch. Occasionally I stream on KZfaq.
@adk5980
@adk5980 21 күн бұрын
this is great man
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 21 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@YAZIDLEMRABET
@YAZIDLEMRABET 24 күн бұрын
Keep it up dude, hope u can do a spacing trap bison vid
@TaylorL4664
@TaylorL4664 25 күн бұрын
I would appreciate some suggestions about how to use Scutum about other characters bnb. EVERY Juri does that one combo. Can scutum fit in there anywhere? Marisa is the only character that can interrupt their normal strings with something unique. It has a 3 frame start-up, doesn't that mean we can sneak it into any enemy combo that has at least 4 frames between attacks? Maybe decent content for shorts. Just an few seconds of the enemy bnb with Marisa interrupting with OD Scutum. I think meter is better spent on interrupting the enemy rhythm with scutum than it is as a 3 bar drive rush cancel. Am I delusional?
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 25 күн бұрын
It’s important to be precise with our language. The phrases BnB and combo refer only to sequences in which a character is in hitstun for the entire duration of the sequence. During hitstun a character cannot perform any action. That is what defines a combo. If you’re referring to block strings and frame traps, then yes, there are sequences that you can use Scutum to get around. However, the reward is not high because you don’t get anything guaranteed, and regular Scutum loses to low hitting moves. It is also susceptible to being thrown. On the other hand fishing for a perfect parry will result in a combo with good oki if you’re successful, and will gain you drive gauge back if unsuccessful. The weakness to throws is the same as Scutum.
@Hoodoojuju82
@Hoodoojuju82 25 күн бұрын
Thanks Zach!
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for engaging!
@bryansnaylor
@bryansnaylor 26 күн бұрын
Woo
@SwazNasty
@SwazNasty 26 күн бұрын
Great info. Thanks dude.
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for checking it out.
@prawnyb
@prawnyb 26 күн бұрын
Id like to know how to beat his damn kick, guy keeps wailing on me and i dont know whats safe or what noises mean heavy etc
@ZachHenke
@ZachHenke 26 күн бұрын
They’re all pretty much the same frame data. The big difference is down to spacing. If you block it close you can punish with 2LP. From further out you can use 6MP to challenge him pushing buttons.
@prawnyb
@prawnyb 26 күн бұрын
@@ZachHenke 6mp eh? I couldnt figure what to do when hes further away. I had a little lab and figured I could 2lp into gladius or a little cheeky shin kick. I'll try 6mp. I don't use that button enough anyway.
@prawnyb
@prawnyb 26 күн бұрын
Reckon you should try to get the move names in the titles of the next one, like Bison kick pressure/knockdown/safe jumps Bison Safe jump setups would be a good one actually