You said you are sticking with warchief- what shot for Michigan ducks/geese- I’m thinking 3 inch 3s will be good for ducks or geese?
@doghousedon19 сағат бұрын
Awesome vid sir, thanks. My personal procedure is clean first, take a shot, and clean. Then, I put cleaning things away and start shooting. One thing in all this that makes no sense is some claim breaking in a bore polishes it and leaves a slick coat of copper making for better accuracy. Then they clean with a copper solvent. Can anyone explain that thinking to me? A third follow-up question you could have asked was, "How did you determine that?" Courious how a couple guys said to break in the cheaper models. What's with that? Again, thanks for the vid.
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 сағат бұрын
Thanks so much! Yea, it doesn't all line up
@hamidjan916313 сағат бұрын
Boss has 3O% penetration means deeper wound ..while Steel has 3O% more hits :) more wounds :) so it doesnt matter which shot we choose, both has equal performance to bring the flying duck down :)
@TheNewHuntersGuide10 сағат бұрын
Depends on the range
@hamidjan91638 сағат бұрын
@@TheNewHuntersGuide ... Dude . i want Boss #4 vs Steel #2 comparison. i also want to know the weight of single pellet of Boss#4 and the weight of Steel shot #2 single pellet. if it doesnt bother U :)
@chrismemphis8062Күн бұрын
Steel Reserve is a really lousy beer
@TheNewHuntersGuide23 сағат бұрын
haha
@Drblood6721Күн бұрын
Awesome, awesome video George. Really neat to see what we were always "taught" about how choking down steel too much will blow a pattern. Very curious to see why this didnt happen in your previous video. Maybe a repeat with a kent fasteel vs federal speek shok is in order. I believe Boss' patterns are extra tight as I think theyre using the new wad they developed for warchief with it.
@TheNewHuntersGuide23 сағат бұрын
Thanks! BOSS said that this wad was engineered for a modified choke, they also didn't want the patterns to get super tight because they designed it as a 30-yard load. Any tighter than this would be bad at that range for sure.
@terryclark9603Күн бұрын
Very good George. That's the way you do it. Know what you mean about walking a lot i tested guns and ammon yesterday shot 2 boxes of 2 2 10s this is 50 shelles walked a lot. But that is testing and Knowing what your guns are ammon is doing. Thanks for your knowledge. Keep it up. Ironman in Alabama 73s
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
Thanks so much Terry!
@realplankКүн бұрын
This was the info I was needing today! Thanks!
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ErnieCrabtreeКүн бұрын
Good job George and great information!
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
Thanks so much!
@wayne_vtКүн бұрын
Great stuff George! I have been really happy shooting a Carlon's Cremator MR for anything from 15 yards out to about 35ish yards or so. I think its a great choke for hunting timber/smaller holes or if you're going to get some good decoying shots or close passing. The LR is definitely too tight for me inside 25yds, but if we're hunting an open field for something like Canadas, can't go wrong with it!
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
Thanks so much!
@waltergurly4040Күн бұрын
Dang it man heck of a job. Lot of counting. Never would have thought mod coke would have done that good in that shell
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
Thanks so much! Me neither. Didn't see that coming.
@butisaeed9709Күн бұрын
Good job brother. I order my tungsten shot from alibaba..COMBAT . 1kg 63 USD The density 18.5-7/cc
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
Thanks so much!
@HawkEye02088Күн бұрын
Lost a lot of respect for these guys once they announced this product
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
Because of how much they've talked down steel in the past?
@aman9054Күн бұрын
That's how it should be done. I see too often people drawing 30" ring, shoot pattern from 40' and count pellets from ring although pattern has missed it a bit. Then aiming mistake makes more difference than shell or choke. Shoot to the paper, then draw the ring around pattern and count pellets. Keep up good work! 👍
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Joshua-yr2fzКүн бұрын
Great video. .715 construction would be light modified. Expressed as 3/8 choke in England/Europe if dealing w guns from there. Here, you will it marked on interchangeable chokes as Skeet II.
@aman9054Күн бұрын
Traditionally (in Europe) full has been 1 mm tighter than cylinder, IM 0,75 mm, M 0,5 mm and IC 0,25 mm tighter. But steel shots have made difference cos at least some steel shots won't pattern good from full choke. I think that's the reason why Carlson's use close, mid and long coding at Crematros. They are a little bit more open than traditional chokes that are made for lead.
@Joshua-yr2fzКүн бұрын
Yes, and those fractions on a nominal .729 bore expressed in cm on guns comming out of Europe and the UK now come to about .715 for LM. Perazzi and a few others label there interchangeable chokes in numbers. For example, No 4 that no. 4 coordinates to 4mm or .016" - LMod. Now, Every Gun Fixed Choke Gun expressed now on fractions including the UK with the CIP standardization. 1/4 is IC, 3/8 LM, 1/2 M, 1 is F. These will be stamped on the barrel flats of fixed choked guns. I know only two manufacturers who will build a gun w fixed choke, with warranty, with tighter than 1/2.(M) with CIP Superior Steel Proof proof mark. Hull recommends no tighter than 1/4 (IC) when using their High Pheasant Superior Steel load. I have shot that load through my Superior Steel proof 1/2 Merkel. Interesting, the old Kent Matrix load (tungsten and polymer) on the box recommended no tighter then 1/2 choke when shooting a lot on the number 3. I asked Kent about it as the marketing was any choke safe. The answer I got was you could shoot it through Full. What I always hated was English guns withproof marks pre 195(8) did not tell you the choke was. One barrel flat might be marked choke. That means there is some choke in that barrel flats barrel. One must them go pattern to figure it out. There was no proof mark to tell you how much choke. The other barrel flat might have no mark. This absence of the proof make choke meant cylinder bore.
@Joshua-yr2fzКүн бұрын
Their not there
@CodyEastmanКүн бұрын
Dam looks good that mod is some good patterns
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
Yea it really likes that choke.
@epicepicenter7152 күн бұрын
Man with that correctly voice your balls really need to drop
@mikegillam45552 күн бұрын
It would be interesting to see some Boss 2 3/4” pattern results…for those who shoot non toxic in the uplands
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
In steel? I don't think they make that. But I've tested 2.75 bismuth.
@kennethstanley69952 күн бұрын
You have taken time to save the working man a lot of money, answering questions the budget hunter cant afford to figure out in this economy!information is always money in the bank. Thanks
@TheNewHuntersGuideКүн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@butisaeed9709Күн бұрын
Hi to all I send this info incase some one needs tss . I dont sell .I'm hunter over 40 and I reload most of my ammo . I agree 100% with his information information
@jackcottrell38912 күн бұрын
Very satisfied with my Mossberg 835 factory choke tubes....
@novicereloader2 күн бұрын
I just bought the mini 850yd version. According to my GPS map, it's off by 2 feet at 836 yards. It was off by .1 to 1 yard on every bush and tree from 50 yards to 100. The speed feature cannot be changed from km/h, but who cares? The optics aren't as good as my buddy's bushnell one. He paid about 5 times as much.
@TheNewHuntersGuide2 күн бұрын
Sounds like a win to me.
@novicereloader2 күн бұрын
@@TheNewHuntersGuide agreed. If it lasts, it'll be a huge win.
@Snailz52 күн бұрын
How was the pattern uniformity of cremators vs. others that performed similarly. That mod had some a fairly wonky pattern that left some good sized voids at 40. Counts are great, but shape and distribution matter and I’ve found the cremators tend to throw pretty uniform circular patterns with steel.
@TheNewHuntersGuide2 күн бұрын
Yea, I tried to note that in the chart at the end. Some had more uniformity than others. And those did well.
@thomasburns40342 күн бұрын
lol over decoys, good one George!
@TheNewHuntersGuide2 күн бұрын
Haha, thanks!
@JohnJones-ow1oe2 күн бұрын
If you're gonna do pattern testing, do it correctly
@TheNewHuntersGuide2 күн бұрын
What method would be more correct than how I did it here?
@JefferyWoodcock4 күн бұрын
Got a quaker boy brand called "the box". Paid $11.00 for it. I use that and a crow call I paid 5 dollars for. Works absolutely fine. And like you said I have a tool bag full of calls, and it's the only 2 I ever use for turkey.
@TheNewHuntersGuide4 күн бұрын
Right on!
@dewayneleek45884 күн бұрын
31/2 dont kill as far i dont think
@JefferyWoodcock4 күн бұрын
I realize when comparing prices lead and TSS are worlds apart.BUT.....1/2" of penetration is all it takes to destroy vitals, I know TSS patterns very good. But is it really worth the price. N.C. has a season limit of 2. May only pull the trigger 3 or 4 times per season, so expensive shells aren't as bad as it sounds.
@TheNewHuntersGuide4 күн бұрын
Yes sir.
@MrChiumiento4 күн бұрын
Will you do a test of super heavy duty wool base layers. I found a company that makes a 600g wool base layer called power wool and there is a few others that do some heavy duty stuff like 400 and 500 but I don’t know if I am better off spending money on more expensive stuff like Sitka core 330 or first lite 350 I feel the more expensive the better but I honestly don’t know and you never know.
@TheNewHuntersGuide4 күн бұрын
That is hoodie thickness right there. I haven't seen those. I'd like to test them if I can come by a pair, but I'm sure they aren't cheap.
@JefferyWoodcock4 күн бұрын
George, could you please do a video on how effectively turkey could be taken by a shell not designed for turkey. Like #4 pheasant load, #6 rabbit and squirrel, ect. I have seen turkey TSS shells for $73.00 for a box of 5. I think 15 bucks a piece is a bit much. Some pheasant loads are 1.25 oz. #4 @ 1350 FPS. EXACTLY the same as some turkey loads for 3X the price, is the difference in wad worth it????(if there is any)
@TheNewHuntersGuide4 күн бұрын
I already did a video just like that a few seasons back, even used target ammo. This one I think: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hN6ghpdnt7XYYmQ.html&
@bent54345 күн бұрын
Good video
@TheNewHuntersGuide4 күн бұрын
Thanks Ben!
@isaiahtolo98865 күн бұрын
Great video, I like to think I’m honest and not really prideful about hunting but I’ll say that I had my best season last year and that was after a frustrating season full of mistakes the year before. I was more careful about my load outs, more dedicated to having good hides to get into easy shooting situations etc. I think failure has been a good teacher to me - especially when I admit my mistakes. Not just related to poor shots but also about being indecisive, lacking confidence in plans, or making poor decisions about gear/load-outs.
@TheNewHuntersGuide5 күн бұрын
If we are growing and improving on past mistakes then we're doing it right for sure! It's when we don't think we're making any mistakes we can learn from that we stop improving.
@bent54345 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review. Seems like tidewe is one of the better budget brands
@TheNewHuntersGuide5 күн бұрын
Best all around budget brand I've found so far.
@TODinWY6 күн бұрын
Great review. Keep'em coming.
@TheNewHuntersGuide5 күн бұрын
Thanks so much!
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 күн бұрын
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@jacobcline70766 күн бұрын
Dag gummit, you've sold me. Worked out to $54 with the sale and the code. Thanks!
@bedroomfarmer89606 күн бұрын
Went to an archery range without yardage markings just a bit earlier and said I needed a range finder. Not sure if Google was listening but this is exactly what I needed. Thanks.
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 күн бұрын
Haha, that's awesome.
@JefferyWoodcock6 күн бұрын
You really really said it all with this video. I had a benelli, a treasure, paid $1,050.00. It was never going to get wet or dinged. Fired it about 10-15 times. Sold it got a $499.00 shotgun and it shoots just as good, and if it gets dust on it ,I don't lose my ever loving mind. Everything you said is ABSOLUTELY true. Thanks for being straight up realistic.
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 күн бұрын
Thank you so much Jeffery!
@wesleybray30466 күн бұрын
I used mine all Spring and this Summer. Very happy with it.
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 күн бұрын
Awesome!
@terryclark96036 күн бұрын
I use a vortex ranger 1500 .I have had a lot of other ones but none compare with the 1500. It is garenteeed for life. I don't know how much they are now but I use mine hunting and in other ways. Terry Clark in Alabama 73s
@terryclark96036 күн бұрын
I will try one and let you know about it. Ironman in Alabama 73s
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@orlandomartinez40316 күн бұрын
had mine for 2 years works great
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 күн бұрын
Awesome, thanks!
@TannerHill-z4t6 күн бұрын
Great video as always! Could you do a test on the new Epic shotshell. Id like to see how their bismuth compares to boss.
@ronswanson94466 күн бұрын
watching the videos of all these I am pretty impressed with the Fiocchi.
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 күн бұрын
True story, it's good stuff, especially for the money.
@northcountryoutlaw97046 күн бұрын
They say not to use steel shot through a full choke because it damages the barrel. I've contacted mossberg and asked them and they said its not a good idea. They say to use ic and modifed only
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 күн бұрын
If the choke is hardened steel able to withstand the shot, it does not place extra stress on the barrel. If the choke is soft steel, as are most stock chokes, and likely many of Mossbergs, then it can't hold up to the shot and upon failure will compromise the barrel. If the barrel is rated to withstand the hardness of steel, then its up to the choke to be rated for the shot size, velocity, and constriction. Not the barrel. However, Mossberg makes an X-factor Full Waterfowl choke. So...
@madwe22696 күн бұрын
First lite is redoing their whitetail line up apparently. Maybe we'll get a source 2.0 with different colors I'm a PA big woods guy. Mile plus walks into my spot mostly uphill, then long sits up to all day. How well do you think this would fit in my hunt layered as such Sitka core lightweight First lite kiln hoody Kuiu guide dcs And then the source jacket in my mt bag, to put on under the guide dcs once I'm on stand Weather conditions typically from 20-45 degree highs, rain, wind, and snow
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 күн бұрын
I think it would do very well it that situation. It packs down fairly good. Not as good as a straight down jacket. But good.
@madwe22696 күн бұрын
@@TheNewHuntersGuide it's currently between this and the kuiu kenai. The kenai seems to pack better, but I'm taking a 2200 size bag in the woods so that's not a top concern. The biggest thing is just keeping warm enough to do those all day sits where it's 20 degrees and snowing, while still being quiet underneath the guide jacket
@TheNewHuntersGuide6 күн бұрын
@@madwe2269 I really like Kuiu, but my experience thus far is that they are geared towards active hunts, like western game. Which is what started the company. I haven't touched any of the newer whitetail oriented stuff so I can't really give you helpful comparative insight.
@subdawg13317 күн бұрын
simply thanks from an old lead hunter. The new steel is amazing compared to the original in the 90s.. love the channel and thanks...
@TheNewHuntersGuide7 күн бұрын
Thanks so much!
@chipvtx18007 күн бұрын
You should have just watched gunblue490 video. He is the man.
@terryclark96038 күн бұрын
It been happening since about the 90s sale and marketing to the thousand of people that just want the get in the woods with no experience not a clue of how to. Just thought I'd say something. Thanks George Terry Clark in Alabama 73s.
@TheNewHuntersGuide8 күн бұрын
Thanks Terry!
@KinetikES8 күн бұрын
You are cut from a different fabric, LOL. Great comparison, thanks. Shows you can’t beat mother nature’s engineering, she’s been at it for billions of years. But the synthetics are pretty close.
@TheNewHuntersGuide8 күн бұрын
Ha, thanks so much!
@KinetikES8 күн бұрын
You are cut from a different fabric, LOL. Great comparison, thanks. Shows you can’t beat mother nature’s engineering, she’s been at it for billions of years. But the synthetics are pretty close.
@jeffbarris81728 күн бұрын
I picked up the Sitka ambient jacket last week i hope it is a good choice for me, God bless you and go get them in the marsh
@TheNewHuntersGuide8 күн бұрын
Thanks Jeff! I think that is probably going to be an outstanding piece of gear for you.
@TheNewHuntersGuide9 күн бұрын
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