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@matthewokeeffe5575
@matthewokeeffe5575 6 күн бұрын
Really interesting thanks Scott. 1st vid of yours I've seen. Ordered my Vern yesterday so well looking forward to taking it out!👍
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 5 күн бұрын
Enjoy. Have a great trip out
@paul333000
@paul333000 10 күн бұрын
Is barely fit for 3 seasons
@ianmatlock1
@ianmatlock1 16 күн бұрын
really interested i this. My only concern, and its diff to see from the video, is does it rain into the inner when the fly is rolled up?
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 16 күн бұрын
Hi, no the inner is set back at the from the maximum opening by about 5cm
@ianmatlock1
@ianmatlock1 16 күн бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022thanks have you been happy with the tent? I’m looking at it mainly to bike tour, but also some hiking and camping like the coast to coast. Not out and out winter camping in heavy snow and gales. Do you thing it would suit this? Finally , my last two theme have been single entrance tunnel tents and they were ridiculously hot in even slightly warm weather. Have you used this in warmer weather and was it suitable? Thanks for responding by the way. I’ve messaged other YT’s about tents and had nothing 👍🏻
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 16 күн бұрын
@ianmatlock1 in the warm the two large doors do help with through ventilation. I cannot yet comment on it's performance in severe conditions I cannot comment in as I've not experienced that in it yet. For the purposes you want I think it would do a good job.
@stealthandysteath1069
@stealthandysteath1069 25 күн бұрын
Nice one mate, keep positive 👍😎
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 24 күн бұрын
Thanks mate. 👍
@andrewarthurmatthews6685
@andrewarthurmatthews6685 Ай бұрын
Shame you didn’t show how the tent goes up ! Wasted opportunity
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 Ай бұрын
There are plenty of others showing the pitching, as with most tents, there are numerous ways to do it, better for folk to figure that out for themselves what works best for them. I'm more interested in showing the tent itself. No wasted opportunity really.
@andrewarthurmatthews6685
@andrewarthurmatthews6685 Ай бұрын
Vango are a first rate brand
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 Ай бұрын
They're OK.
@RichardMathews-gv7lb
@RichardMathews-gv7lb Ай бұрын
Cheviot’s look great as does the V1. Snowdonia = Eryri (Ur-ruh- ri) and Snowdon is Yr Wyddfa (Ur Wivth- vah). The rounded hills in Welsh are usually called Moel …which I would imagine the inhabitants of the hill fort would have called the hills in the cheviots.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 Ай бұрын
I'm aware of the names of the more famous Welsh mountains. I imagine the inhabitants of Northumberland didn't use the same words for hills or mountains that the Welsh did/do way back in the day. There may have been occasional crossover but not so much as far as I've learned.
@RichardMathews-gv7lb
@RichardMathews-gv7lb Ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022 the hillforts were built by the Brythonic Celts so they would have spoken the forerunner to old Welsh. The oldest Welsh poetry existing was written just up the road in Edinburgh
@user-gj3gj8nj4l
@user-gj3gj8nj4l Ай бұрын
It’s good to see somebody with the kahunas to say what they think. Keep it up.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 Ай бұрын
Thanks. I try to just be honest 👍
@dillonwild7016
@dillonwild7016 Ай бұрын
Hello I like the look of this tent for bikepacking. Where did you buy it? Didn't quite catch the name of the shop. Thanks for the review.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 Ай бұрын
I bought mine from Tiso online. It was reduced. Not sure if it still is.
@dillonwild7016
@dillonwild7016 Ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022 ok thankyou.
@SteveSmith-67
@SteveSmith-67 2 ай бұрын
That picnic blanket makes a reappearance, am sure that garden looked much better with an x-mid in it a bit later in the afternoon 🤣🤣
@haydenwittig8877
@haydenwittig8877 2 ай бұрын
Many of these tents are over priced look just throw a water proof tarp over the top for the best nights sleep.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
I don't think this one is overpriced. Some are for sure, most are not.
@littlegrandadoutdoors
@littlegrandadoutdoors 2 ай бұрын
It does look a wee bit like a helm 2...
@GrizzlyGaz
@GrizzlyGaz 2 ай бұрын
Pretty solid aren't they! Time will tell if it's any good though 👍
@littlegrandadoutdoors
@littlegrandadoutdoors 2 ай бұрын
@#grizzlygaz didn't you go out in one the other day??.
@GrizzlyGaz
@GrizzlyGaz 2 ай бұрын
@@littlegrandadoutdoors yes.
@jacksyoungest5194
@jacksyoungest5194 2 ай бұрын
What an ugly tent
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 Ай бұрын
In your opinion only.
@GrizzlyGaz
@GrizzlyGaz 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@GrizzlyGaz
@GrizzlyGaz 2 ай бұрын
Will be good to see this out in a bit of wind 💩💨
@davegalloway7531
@davegalloway7531 2 ай бұрын
Have you managed to try it in anger yet?
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
Not as yet. Only got back from the continent yesterday. I think I'd like to seam sealed it first as it's not stitched like the hillebergs or Nortents. So will need to be done really.
@davegalloway7531
@davegalloway7531 2 ай бұрын
£320
@wouterlabruyere2017
@wouterlabruyere2017 2 ай бұрын
Hi Scott, great video! We would like to get in touch with you. Can you send us an email? Thanks, Wouter (OutdoorXL)
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 Ай бұрын
Hi Wouter, I tried contacting you via the store email and WhatsApp but I guess you haven't seen them. You can message me at [email protected] if that helps.
@Fellmandave1
@Fellmandave1 2 ай бұрын
I could spend days in there!
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
It's a good job I'm over here for work or I'd probably do just that haha
@citizenwolf8720
@citizenwolf8720 2 ай бұрын
Holy cow, that's a lot of money in their inventory! How do they manage to hold that much and stay in business??
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
They must have a pretty big turnaround on stuff. The times I've been in there it gets really busy. After I'd taken the video and photos, there were actually queues at the checkouts.
@DC-nt3zk
@DC-nt3zk 2 ай бұрын
What about the leaking issue with the bottom vent
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
Mine hasn't leaked so I can't comment on that.
@Johnnygee10
@Johnnygee10 2 ай бұрын
Opps the Hilleberg two man tents are in trouble!! 😂And can also say without using it that is the best two man tent in the universe 🤣. jokes aside it looks a cracking tent, Good room to weight ratio and I like the shape of the vestibules 👌 hope to see you having some adventures in it 😉
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 my problem is I'm not entirely sure which hilleberg is in trouble with this 🤪
@Johnnygee10
@Johnnygee10 2 ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022 Morning Scott... Just say all of them 😂.... Even the black label ones 🤣
@etztz123
@etztz123 2 ай бұрын
​Ask Andy he will tell you 😂@@HairyHiker2022
@donnavansenior
@donnavansenior 2 ай бұрын
I'd looked at buying one of these but the price was a bit out of my reach (I have way too many tents). It's a good weight for a 2 person tent and I love the design. I look forward to seeing you out in it :) atb DVS
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it's not a budget bit of kit for sure. Being able to buy it here in euros has saved me a good few quid but I totally get ya. Hopefully I get a chance to be out in it next week. If I do, I'll do a little camp video. Too many tents sounds familiar. The struggle is real haha 🤣
@davegalloway7531
@davegalloway7531 2 ай бұрын
What's the lowest price you've seen?
@donnavansenior
@donnavansenior 2 ай бұрын
​@davegalloway7531 I can't remember exactly but round the £420 mark
@davegalloway7531
@davegalloway7531 2 ай бұрын
@@donnavansenior I've seen it for £319.99
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
@donnavansenior that's the UL version which is 3288g in weight. This is the Zero G version which weighs 2050g.
@martin-br4dl
@martin-br4dl 2 ай бұрын
Thx. For the heads up
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure. Was good to chat to you this morning in the "candy store" 👍
@Camped_on_Dartmoor
@Camped_on_Dartmoor 2 ай бұрын
How does it compare to the Soulo? only kidding.. looks a decent setup bet you cant wait to properly test it out now.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha I was very careful not to compare it to anything I think 🤣🤣🤣
@etztz123
@etztz123 2 ай бұрын
Looks awesome, I've seen there online store but never ordered out. Think they include customs duty in their prices also which is handy. Thx for sharing.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
Yeah they do include taxes and duties in the price 👍
@bonpecheur4565
@bonpecheur4565 2 ай бұрын
Your fast! Your just out of the store and the tent is already pitch in your yard 😅 . I like the shape of the tent and also that the vents are in the vestibule, leaving the possibility to leave both doors open for the night. Can you use the opening of the vestibule as an awning with trekking poles? Congratulations on your new tent
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
Haha yeah it looks like it's gonna rain so I thought straight up to check. Yes the vestibule door can be fixed to trekking poles for an awning if you want. I'm a fan of big vestibules haha. I can put my boots and some kit in one and cook, enter and exit from the other. I'll probably change out the guylines for 3mm hilleberg line and I'm going to swap the pegs. They're basic v pegs and I have others I like more but other than that I'm happy as is. Will see how it performs. I've the option to swap out the poles if I really want to from 7001 T6 to DAC but that's a decision for another time.
@etztz123
@etztz123 2 ай бұрын
Always bloody 🌧️ here in the uk. Nice tent and space for 2.1.kg.should hold up well to the elements.
@etztz123
@etztz123 2 ай бұрын
I was counting my tents the other day and I'm well into double figures lol. My oh thinks I have serious issues. 😂
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
@etztz123 you do have issues. I have issues. I'm thinking of starting up Tentaholics Anonymous. "Hello, my name is Scott, it's been 4 days since I bought my last tent" 🤣
@etztz123
@etztz123 2 ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022 😂
@stealthandysteath1069
@stealthandysteath1069 2 ай бұрын
Looks like a good layout.. Money money 🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for sharing buddy tc Andy
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
Yeah as I say it's dangerous haha. Atb.
@bonpecheur4565
@bonpecheur4565 2 ай бұрын
Nice looking place , but better go without your wallet ...
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely. So easy to spend big in there.
@Camped_on_Dartmoor
@Camped_on_Dartmoor 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to put a video together, the shelves looked well stocked my pet hate is Gooutdoors and its lack of gear in stock. often having to resorted to online ordering.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
They have loads of stock of everything. If you can't see it and they have it online they'll get it to you haha
@DavidWilliams-tk3dy
@DavidWilliams-tk3dy 2 ай бұрын
I've bought additional magnets off e bay. Very cheap. Same diameter, far stronger, and taped them over the originals with DCF tape. Far better, but just shouldn't be necessary. It's a known fault. Had to do the same with my TT Notch. Also agree re the pole cups. Fiddly and ineffective. I'm happy so far with the Ultra material. Jury out on the robustness of the inner floor though.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a design fault for sure. I just never was happy with the ultra material. Much preferred the silnylon fly.
@1024Pete
@1024Pete 3 ай бұрын
One difference in cost is that the Nortent production is done at their factory in Changzhou, China. Hilleberg tents are manufactured at their facility in Rapla, Estonia. Thanks for the great review. Wishing you good fortune and happy trails!
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Yeah that's very true. The build quality seems good to me but the question remains about its strength in poor conditions. It definitely has weaknesses for sure.
@Sneaky-Sneaky
@Sneaky-Sneaky 3 ай бұрын
The Vern’s have been snapping poles in high winds….be careful!
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
There have been one or 2 cases in 50mph plus winds.
@Sneaky-Sneaky
@Sneaky-Sneaky 2 ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022 Dave said his snapped at 40….
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 2 ай бұрын
@@Sneaky-Sneaky That was a vern2. Totally different tent to be fair.
@1024Pete
@1024Pete 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your honest commentary. Most helpful. Wishing you good fortune and a safe journey ahead. Happy Trails!
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. And the same to you also 👍
@1024Pete
@1024Pete 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed commentary. I am waiting for the Nallo. Wishing you safe adventures and good fortune. Happy Trails!
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
It's a cracking tent mate. Enjoy it 👍
@summittaedae2323
@summittaedae2323 3 ай бұрын
Hi Scott. New sub 100% based on your analysis of KZfaqrs promoting free tents.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Haha thanks. Yeah it's a bit of a pet hate of mine when they aren't 100% honest about things. Thanks for the sub.
@citizenwolf8720
@citizenwolf8720 3 ай бұрын
The Vern 1 is more like an Unna killer imo.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
I don't really think it's an anything killer to be honest. It's a good tent. That's all.
@smellyoldsock1553
@smellyoldsock1553 3 ай бұрын
Tbh the Vern 1 isn't fit for purpose. It's not for favoured influencers or customers that have purchased the product with their own money to test the product after it's hit the market. Yes Nortent can correct the obvious design flaws in the third edition of this tent but that doesn't help those customers that trusted this company prior to purchase and made the financial investment. If they suggest 10mm DAC poles, then ship them to current owners for free. Or do the decent thing and just issue a full product recall. The only hype I believed was that purchasing a second set of Nortent 9mm poles for harsh weather was beneficial. This I fell for. According to another Nortent owner that's posted online and invested in both a new set of DAC poles and another set of Nortent 9mm it makes little difference to the performance. But the weight penalty is getting ridiculous. The use of a trekking pole to assist the front guylines seems to be the best option to aid stability and wind resistance. It's a shambolic mess and Nortent are 100% to blame. Time they took it on the chin!
@Johnnygee10
@Johnnygee10 3 ай бұрын
As I said on your comparison video, That yours was the most balanced first impression, of the vern 1 on youtube. I also point out that any reviews were premature and highlighted a certain individual (B######Tuk) as the worst culprit with his extravagant claims about the tent he had for free!. 🧐I would disagree with you about experience though. That is experience with knowledge gain. And i'm sure your scrambled eggs are ok 👌😂. ATB 😉
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha you haven't eaten them 🤣. 100% agree with your comment on experience if knowledge is gained. I know plenty of people who have a ton of experience in things but they've been doing it wrong for all that time or they just haven't learned the lessons that experience should have taught them. It's interesting that some of the "sensational" videos have been taken down now.
@Johnnygee10
@Johnnygee10 3 ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022Thanks Scott, For your quick reply to my comment. Didn't realize that some of the video had been taken down, Not being subed to these Clickbait (b######t) channels. I only took some interest as an owner of some Hllleberg tents. Also you and Your engineering mate are absolutely correct about the optimum angle of a tent for wind resistance taken into account the flexiblilty of materials used.. 🧐Yes I'm drawing on my experienced as a wild camper with a manufacturing backgraound 😉 Keep practising your scrambled eggs 😂
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
No worries. I don't have so many subscribers that I can't keep tabs on the comments 😂😂.
@Johnnygee10
@Johnnygee10 3 ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022 😂Just checked you've got 289 subs, 290 now just subscribed 👍😉
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
@Johnnygee10 thanks chief, much appreciated 👍
@citizenwolf8720
@citizenwolf8720 3 ай бұрын
Do the mods! Let's see how they work. And test them in 60mph so we can blame you when the tent fails, and we'll all shake our heads and say you're irresponsible, lol :) BTW, what's the name of the place where you can get mods made to your tents?
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha I might just do that. I think it's called Scottish Mountain Gear. I've never used them before but it's what I have been told by others.
@citizenwolf8720
@citizenwolf8720 3 ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022 Thanks for the info. 👍 And I look forward to seeing your video where you deliberately stress-test your tent to the point of failing. so that I can admonish you whilst letting everyone know how many years experience I have (of watching videos on U-tube) and how I'd never go out camping if there's a even a chance of rain. It's just too irresponsible. 🙂
@RowanWildCamps
@RowanWildCamps 3 ай бұрын
Good evening, Scott, firstly I think you did a great job summarising what most people are thinking. To answer your question on why I set the guy lines slightly to one side (this was a decision I made at the time). By pegging the lines slightly into the wind, it allows the crossing pole to be better supported when the wind blows. The same way you would with a tunnel tent. Obviously in no way to deform the pole or structural strength, but by moving those 2 guy lines into the wind it holds the tent up better in wind. So, the guy lines actually take some of the force rather than just the poles/fabric in this occasion. Take your Nallo 2 (I also have 1), if you did not have the added guy lines to the vent hood, and set it up vestibule into the wind, if you move the guy lines on the main/biggest pole slightly towards the vestibule end of the tent, it supports that main pole, in comparison to the guy lines being directly to the side. That was my logic at the time at least, I have pitched the Nallo like that including in forecast 80mph winds. I hope this helps; it looks like you had a nice camp there. Thank you. Rowan.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Hi Rowan, firstly sorry to see you had to bail and got damage. Always a tough call to make. Thanks for your comments. Regarding the guy-outs, it was more to do with one line running towards the wind and one perpendicular to the tent. Whilst I totally understand what you're saying regarding guying into the wind, I'm just wondering whether having the guylines at different directions maybe increased the lateral forces on the lower end of the pole. I genuinely don't know if it would but I was just trying to rationalise what may have caused the pile break. Hope you have a better time of it on your next trip out 👍
@RowanWildCamps
@RowanWildCamps 3 ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022 Thank you, can't say I wanted to get out in those conditions again. But it was for testing purposes. Yes, so I thought the top guy line, is taking the most strain for the crossover pole, I did the same both sides. As, for it changing the forces on the pole especially at the lower end, I personally cannot see it doing any harm, I'm no engineer however. I can see why you would think that of course. Nortent also saw the videos as I emailed them before I put the videos out, and they never said I did anything wrong (except for pitching it where I did, I suppose), but they appreciated the feedback and seeing it in those conditions. Since then, they have sent me an extra set of poles and asked me to test it again, in similar weather. For context purposes- They originally did not offer to send poles, but asked for me to test with double poles, something I stated would cost me and for no benefit to me, as I have my answer on the tent. Few days later they offered to send some. So, I guess when that sort of weather returns, I will be out in it again. Thanks. Rowan
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
@@RowanWildCamps glad you got more poles. The Korean I see and hear the Korean it sounds to me like Nortent rushed the tent out and customers are being the unwitting beta testers. Anyway I'm selling mine. I have too many tents and the Vern just doesn't tick enough boxes for me. Hopefully it works better for you with the double poling and you don't have to bail when the weather gets bad.
@craig3401
@craig3401 3 ай бұрын
I've said it for years gear reviewers often do the reviews with rose tinted glasses and yes I do think it's to get more gear in future the Vern isn't the only thing I can remember when those trekolgy mats came out of they were the bees knees then the truth came out no r value or next to non and the durability was shocking yet reviewers were still saying there the best.and your right about them having a duty to tell the whole truth about gear.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely mate. I've seen so many reviews in recent years where they're basically glorified sales pitches and it's pretty mercenary. I personally only currently review things I've purchased myself. If in future, companies want me to review stuff it will only happen if I have carte blanch to say what I want good or bad. I suspect that means I won't be getting much stuff to review and I'm fine with that haha
@gazza1858
@gazza1858 3 ай бұрын
I well thought assessment, explained in a diplomatic way. ( New Subscriber )
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, appreciate it. 👍
@Foxtrottangoabc
@Foxtrottangoabc 3 ай бұрын
The funniest thing was the apology , which apologised to commenting utubers but not the person he named in his vid and said he pitched tent wrong and then gave several reasons 😅 the guy who camped on dartmoor just doing his own stuff and puts out decent videos
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
I'd not seen Rowans stuff before but it was a canny video to be fair. I do think there were a couple of things in the pitch I wouldn't have done but I'd need to ask him his rationale behind them. I'm sure he had his reasons. But yeah that apology video, I thought it was satirical at first.
@citizenwolf8720
@citizenwolf8720 3 ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022 He said in his 'apology' video that Rowan pitched the tent wrong. This assertion was apparently based on the fact that the left door panel was bowing-in. IMO, this panel was bowing-in because of back eddies created by the wind slamming under the storm flap. If you watch some of Rowans other videos, he's careful & deliberate and he's camped in some really difficult weather without the tents failing. Aside from discussions on the exact angles of guy-lines (which I agree with Rowan on), he pitched the tent correctly. Apology video also said Rowan got out the wrong door. He didn't. Apology video also said that the center pole was already bent before he pitched it, but it was unclear if he was saying that this bend was due to incompetence on behalf or Rowan or not. Poles often take on a bend. And also the pole failed at the bottom, not at the top where the slight bend was. A large part of the apology video was slagging off Rowan who never caused him any grief.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Rowan has commented regarding the side guy-outs and I understand his rationale behind it, my thought was really that the 2 side guys on each side were running at different angles relative to the tent, laterally and I wonder whether that coupled with everything else that was affecting the tent had a lateral pull putting more pressure on that bottom section of the pole. Maybe it didn't, but that was my thought process. Yeah the apology video got literally everything wrong in an attempt to fully plant the blame on Rowan which was unfair at best. I've not looked myself but apparently that video has now been taken down.
@outdooradventures4250
@outdooradventures4250 3 ай бұрын
Love your videos and knowledge of tents ⛺️ Keep smashing out the great content 👍
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. I'll do my best for sure.
@chriswilding6095
@chriswilding6095 3 ай бұрын
Well said on the Vern 1.
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mate 👍
@ringperm
@ringperm 3 ай бұрын
I am only halfway through this video, and although I ought to comment about the shortening of the tent. I will leave that be (for now :) ) I will instead comment about what you said about the weather. Nortent is designed in Stavanger, on the south-west corner of Norway. If there is one place in Norway where the weather resembles the UK, it is here. It is rainy, windy, crappy in any way possible. Just like your peak district. The only difference, is the lower altitude, that will also affect the average wind speed. But drive for an hour, and you will probably find mountain ranges that rival the peaks of the Peak district. The Norweqians are very active in using our mountains for wild camping, and there are not just more snow than in the UK, but also just as windy if not more. With that in mind, there is no reason for Nortent not to know about "British conditions", since they are living in it on a day to day basis. The failure of Nortent, is a lack of testing for it. Or at least that is how it appears to me. It also appears to me that the Verns have been rushed to market, and that the idea of the additional poles are more for making the tent free standing, and not to secure it for stormy conditions. The latter is probably not true, but as it stands now, I guess that is the only use for them. I also want to address the other commenters use of double poles. If it is true, that the tent has been designed with double poles in mind to cope with stronger winds, is that not just the biggest drawback, compared to the competition? The vern1 uses 3 poles, the Vern 2 uses 5 poles, but if you expect really crappy weather you need 6 and 10 poles to secure the tent? If that is the case, it ought to come with a warning and an included caddy. No, I don't belive that. I think it was designed to cope with the worst conditions as is, but unfortunately they failed and it ended up being a (great) 3+ season tent. Disclaimer, I am a selv proclaimed Nortent Fanboy, but if I can give credit where credit is due, I also have to do the opposite and give critisism where that is warranted
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate the balanced comment. 👍 I eagerly anticipate the shortening discussion 😉 but all joking aside I think you're right, they've rushed something out and I don't think it's been properly or fully tested and it's weaknesses have been exposed. I think it would have been better to get it right rather what seems to be happening whereby they are now trying to find quick ways to shore it up. If it was right in the beginning it wouldn't need shoring up. I guess that's the whole point.
@bernardscott1783
@bernardscott1783 3 ай бұрын
Boring now, move on
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
You can always scroll past Bernard. You do you and I'll keep doing me. 👍
@stigfloberghagenphotography
@stigfloberghagenphotography 3 ай бұрын
Nice video 👍
@HairyHiker2022
@HairyHiker2022 3 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@stigfloberghagenphotography
@stigfloberghagenphotography 3 ай бұрын
@@HairyHiker2022 👍