and the foul call 5 seconds before that ha. what buffoons.

If the player was Alex Coal maybe...

To be fair, Sprocket’s men played some TERRIBLE defense there. Two break throws that easy? C’mon, guys

Well look what happened when Sprocket tried to incorporate their ladies. Instant turn.

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I didn't see any egregious traveling and I think most of the offensive clips here would reinforce that.

​@IamMaxC I just rewatched this with an eye to looking for travels specifically. I don't see much in the way of 'loose pivots' like we see so much in US high level (think Joe White any time he fakes or shifts weight - pivot moving a couple of inches). Their pivots, once established, are generally quite solid (or solid enough to not be called.) But, especially from the Cardenas sisters in the first clips, they're pretty loose in establishing their pivots, instead prioritizing their positioning over not traveling. Watch Valeria at 1:40 - her last two steps actually take her further into the space. A clear example is also Manu (I think?) at 2:00 - she hops right at the end to move her pivot slight further up field but more importantly shift her her hips facing infield, so she can make the quick throw back laterally. The do this sort of 'lazy' /liberal pivot establishment, often turning upfield/infield in the guise of hopping or stepping of their established pivot, and they gain a lot in effectiveness of their motion offense. I don't even know if it's always a travel (thinking about it - I'm not 100 sure if Manu's above is), but many of them are, and I think they're quite dependent on it not getting called to keep them in flow.

@@squidge903 I dont think your examples are very strong proof that their fast paced offense was totally reliant on travels. Seems like the usual unconscious travels you'd see from any player from any team to be perfectly honest. The way singapore plays seems like a much better example of an offense excessively relying on travels.

​@@Javier-ss7jg I don't think they're conscious - I wouldn't say the Colombian players are deliberately choosing to play significantly loose in how they establish their pivot. I do, however, think those types of movements are so prevalent in their game style that it's is reliant on it and therefore opponents not calling it (which only just reinforces its occurance). It's less obvious in a short breakdown like this, but seemed prevalent in their games at WUCC 2022.

I try to assume the best of people, but she definitely stopped rotation and established control. Should have been a turnover. Crazy the mental gymnastics when egos are losing...

Gotta be a drop. 100% stopped rotation

@@timberwolfe338 and demonstrated control.

@@squidge903really tough to argue you never had control as you attempt a centering pass

WFDF annotation say this: 8.2 Disc hits the ground (8.1.4) Extra: After a pull or a turnover where the disc hits the ground in-bounds, if the offence attempts to pick up the disc in-bounds, but fails to pick it up and the disc drops to the ground, that is not a new turnover, unless the offence had full control of the disc prior to accidentally dropping the disc. For me is about "offence had full control". In this case I would go with benefits of doubt here.

i think that means soft cap was on, 11 minutes till hard cap

@@jackfriday8303 Thanks!

you are a saint

actually i take that back. i guess his right hand could have been under the disc the whole time and kept it pinned to his torso.

@@bupkaplan but it hurts af i guess.