Flitesim CLS-60 Initial Impression
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@Bryan-ty8wq
@Bryan-ty8wq 3 күн бұрын
Great video. I may be doing something wrong but I did the prop axis for the Bell 407 but it does not twist/turn. I even put it out of idle but when I do my key binds, nothing happens. Any suggestions?
@wongarnold2879
@wongarnold2879 6 күн бұрын
Can it mount an extension?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 4 күн бұрын
That's a great question. I did not ask that. Having said that, I think extensions would lessen the force felt at the grip, and depending on the length of the extension that might mitigate too much of the force.
@wongarnold2879
@wongarnold2879 4 күн бұрын
@@IvanSkyFlight thx for the reply. For me extensions are essential, as the leverage is key for precise movements.
@rbathurst
@rbathurst 11 күн бұрын
Always helpful to hear from a current GA pilot when looking at these. Was the trimming realistic? Trimming in MSFS on my Honeycomb yoke is very difficult if not impossible. Thanks for what you do for the flight sim community.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 4 күн бұрын
You are welcome, and thanks for your kind words! I did not get to try to trim using the yoke, but I did have a conversation with the developer, and he discussed exactly this. Trimming on an Alpha is nothing like real flight, and I agree, it can be hard. I will link to the video part where Fabian from Flitesim discusses trimming. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nL-dit1zzpmUc58.htmlsi=miw6pceUuC_c1_wh&t=305
@damb25
@damb25 11 күн бұрын
I have one question: Do you have to install Air manager?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 4 күн бұрын
You don't have to. For example, there are several aircraft where their main displays don't have buttons or controls on a bezel. You see this in some of the airliners or even the Cirrus Vision Jet. In this case you can pop out the screens and move them to a different monitor. I also do this a lot with helicopters. Some displays (from within the sim) can even be popped and have touch capability, but other third party apps are needed. Air Manager as of now does not add touch capability to the displays that are popped out. Air Manager only adds touch capability to the bezels or other gauges being emulated.
@olipoulin9025
@olipoulin9025 16 күн бұрын
Cmon run simulation mod
@jonathanrosario6399
@jonathanrosario6399 16 күн бұрын
Hey Ivan, I have an Alpha Yolk and Bravo Throttle, I was wondering how you got those mounted underneath your desk?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 4 күн бұрын
I use a metal piece that uses the Alpha/Bravo cover screws to be attached to the top of unit, and then I use the clamps that came with the yoke/throttle to mount under the desk. I am currently using a commercial version for that that I picked up from Flight Sim Builder, but I also have a video where I made my piece from parts from Home Depot: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i8V8aJuCmZnVXXU.htmlsi=ufJeOJpib0iViyzo
@frankpope9273
@frankpope9273 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video. I am having difficulty getting the in-game menu bar panels working. I am trying to get the in-game checklist panel to pop out and appear on my iPad (I'm using spacedesk) with touch enabled. I cannot figure out how to set this up to work automatically in POPM. I can manually open the checklist and drag it to the iPad but the checklist items do not respond to touch input, only mouse input. Can you help? Thanks!
@frankpope9273
@frankpope9273 15 күн бұрын
I just reread the POPM Getting Started manual on GitHub and it’s right there. Sorry, I missed seeing this before. All sorted now. 😂
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 4 күн бұрын
@@frankpope9273 Awesome!
@peterdepra
@peterdepra 19 күн бұрын
Very useful, well presented and much appreciated. Thank you.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 17 күн бұрын
Thanks! Glad it helped!
@wasifsaleemch
@wasifsaleemch 20 күн бұрын
Thank you :)
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 17 күн бұрын
You are welcome!
@aldepeche
@aldepeche 20 күн бұрын
Thank You 👌🤛👊👍
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 17 күн бұрын
You are welcome!
@THIS---GUY
@THIS---GUY 23 күн бұрын
my VKB gunfighter ultimate was supposed to be buy once cry once lol not even 15 hours in and this is announced
@ziljanvega3879
@ziljanvega3879 23 күн бұрын
VKB is still the standard imo. FFB is good when done well, but early models like this are likely to make you fly worse, not better. Still waiting to see how it impacts WW2 planes and chopper trim/hovering in DCS.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 17 күн бұрын
@@ziljanvega3879 I need to spend some time in DCS for the WW2 stuff.
@Giampa_Pol
@Giampa_Pol 24 күн бұрын
Hello and thanks for your explanations. In your opinion, is it possible to modify a gauge present in the PMDG 777 recently released for MSFS2020? I would like to make the texts on the buttons bigger. example on the autopilot A/P button make the "A/P" text a little bigger to be more readable. A thousand thanks
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 17 күн бұрын
Gauges could be made to look just about any kind of way, but so far, I have not seen a lot of Air Manager panels and instruments for MSFS/PMDG planes. I just picked up a copy of 777, and to be honestly it's kicking my butt!
@parthorhard559
@parthorhard559 24 күн бұрын
You use an older version of pop out manager. I am trying to pop out with this vision jet. But I only get moading custom camera view failed. Please try to help ab old man.....
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 24 күн бұрын
Check the link in the description. I have updated this video.
@bayram911
@bayram911 24 күн бұрын
The revolution would be if it were possible to also use the joystick as an H shifter in simracing in the same rig..
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 17 күн бұрын
Yes it would. I would love to design/have a combo flight flight/racing rig. I have a racing rig on an aluminum frame from Advanced Sim Racing, and holy smokes is that thing solid with zero flex. I would love to have something light for my flight rig.
@vivid_clarity
@vivid_clarity 25 күн бұрын
Great Video! How does the Moza F-16 Grip feel compared to the Thrustmaster f-16 Viper Grip?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 17 күн бұрын
The grip felt good, but I don't have a Thrustmaster grip yet to compare. Hopefully soon.
@davidd.1619
@davidd.1619 25 күн бұрын
First, thank you for the sensations, it must be fantastic to try something like this for the first time. One question please, could you notice the FF joystick when the plane went into a stall?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 17 күн бұрын
I can't say that I felt anything, but I wasn't concentrating hard enough. Hope to get this in the future and I will certainly make a video if I do.
@elkami5377
@elkami5377 25 күн бұрын
are you kiddin me ? war thunder in third person view LOL !! very professionel
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 25 күн бұрын
I would never kid you.
@davidng5263
@davidng5263 26 күн бұрын
Is the base coming with airbus stick version? Had you heard anything from them?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 25 күн бұрын
They have now posted pricing on their website, but they did not mention an Airbus stick to me, and I have not found it on their website or in news releases.
@slecht
@slecht 26 күн бұрын
What flight seat/cockpit they used if you know?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 25 күн бұрын
The seat is for sure GTR and it looked like GTR was sharing a booth with Moza.
@adisonsichampanakhone1070
@adisonsichampanakhone1070 26 күн бұрын
Welp time to get into flight sims lol
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 26 күн бұрын
It's a good time considering the upcoming MSFS 2024 and X-Plane 12.1.
@grasstreefarmer
@grasstreefarmer 27 күн бұрын
Come try our new high end flight sim hardware ... in warthunder third person view?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 26 күн бұрын
That's what they had set up. Although the rig next to it was running something different I think.
@bouzahgaming1016
@bouzahgaming1016 15 күн бұрын
It is even the damn arcade mode in war thunder. not even the Simulator mode.
@warster321
@warster321 27 күн бұрын
thanks for the "try to review", but you should stay in your lane :) I'm very excited to buy the base though!
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 26 күн бұрын
Glad you're excited about the base, and I'll pick my own lane, thanks!
@Simlife101
@Simlife101 Күн бұрын
@warster321 it’s not a review it’s a first impression it sure why he called it a review.
@Simlife101
@Simlife101 Күн бұрын
*why you call it a review I mean he clearly states it’s a first impression in the title.
@PadinnPlays
@PadinnPlays 27 күн бұрын
Price out today. 550us for base, 170 for stick
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 27 күн бұрын
I saw that. That is about what expected for the base. I am being told that is also compatible with Thrustmaster and Virpil sticks.
@TWOKDOK1
@TWOKDOK1 27 күн бұрын
Do you know how to restore backups of a/c profiles please ?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 27 күн бұрын
I do not, but the developer is very active, and I believe he is on github. He also responded to a previous tutorial video I did. His comment is pinned to the top. You may be able to reach him that way. Here is the video link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtSZe66ly9Wllpc.htmlsi=YJ-lrb04GwE5wymS
@brentsnoddy1951
@brentsnoddy1951 28 күн бұрын
Hey Ivan, can you try to get this to work on the NX Cub. I am pulling my hair out with numerous attempts with different cockpit or instrument views to no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 27 күн бұрын
Two questions: First, is there more than one version of the NX Cub? I see a Got Friends version on the Marketplace. Is that the one you use? Second, without running POPM are you able to manually pop out the display using the right ALT and mouse click?
@brentsnoddy1951
@brentsnoddy1951 27 күн бұрын
@@IvanSkyFlight Thank you for the response. 1) I am using the NX Cub that came with the simulator full version or at least I think so. I have a lot of stuff from the Marketplace but I don't recall purchasing that one from there or any other external site. TBH I didn't know that the marketplace had the NX Cub. 2) Yes, I can manually pop out the GPS display on the NX Cub and many other aircraft I currently have. I have tried numerous attempts on several aircraft and I can pop them all out but I get failure on every screen on any plane. This made me think there there is another common denominator maybe in the setup of the software, etc. I went through all that and I cannot really see anting glaring at me that would possibly solve my issue. I guess my concern is that the program doesn't work on any plane, which IMO is beyond the scope of your video or comments replies. I downloaded the latest version while watching your video and followed your process verbatim and I still get failed on every screen be it a single or multiple screens in a profile like you showed. I've watched the dev's videos and less the irritating non-verbal instructions, everything was pretty much covered in what I saw in your video. One thing I noticed is that for some reason every attempt to identify a view it seems to zoom the focus on the instrument or pilot's view. Unable to prevent that I tried reducing the size of the popoout all the way down to 50 x 50 to no avail. Frustrated I gave up late last night. Most of this I think comes from the fact that your video is very informative, simple and easy to follow. Grrr Great video BTW. I have watched a few of your previous videos in the past but now I have decided to subscribe to your channel. Thanks again! Brent
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 27 күн бұрын
@@brentsnoddy1951 Brent, I just did a test run with the included NX Cub and it worked as advertised, so I am wondering if there is something else going as you mentioned. My best advice would be to reach out to the developer. He has a pinned response to an older video of mine. You could start there: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtSZe66ly9Wllpc.htmlsi=YJ-lrb04GwE5wymS
@g-locmedia
@g-locmedia 28 күн бұрын
The full size wheel looks great
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 27 күн бұрын
It was very cool. I know you are no stranger to force feedback. Haven't tried the models you have. This one was really nice. That size is a bit daunting, though. I have said this more than once: Flight simulations needs more affordable force feedback. Racing sims have had that for decades. The tech is there. Just need to price it right. The CLS-60 is a step in the right direction.
@socalfun64
@socalfun64 28 күн бұрын
How could you skip over the most important thing which is TRIM SETTINGS.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 27 күн бұрын
Alas, you are not the first to point that out. I guess it's because I don't use trim while flying these small helicopters and rarely fly the larger ones.
@chris-ryan
@chris-ryan 28 күн бұрын
I hope Nicki got his company back.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 28 күн бұрын
I am not sure what will happen, but the difference between last year's booth and this year's was night and day. At FSE 23, Nicki had a big audience and some exciting new gear. This year it was a small booth with almost no traffic and really no new gear unless you count the pedals. There was a guy named Mark (Marc?) who was very polite, but really was not very fired up.
@whiterooksme
@whiterooksme 29 күн бұрын
As he said, good job. You asked the right questions.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 28 күн бұрын
Thanks! It was fun!
@moiluck
@moiluck 29 күн бұрын
Nobody is gonna talk about the carpet?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 28 күн бұрын
Not digging the carpet? Come on, beige flower carpet doesn't pop? Better cancel my carpet order...
@moiluck
@moiluck 28 күн бұрын
@@IvanSkyFlight I already ordered mine in orange. Maybe not very relaxing color but it will make the sim look vintage and classy
@tver
@tver 27 күн бұрын
It really ties the room together.
@slecht
@slecht 29 күн бұрын
Will buy it when possible! Love flight sims but need some good new gear, hope the price is reasonable.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 28 күн бұрын
Me too. Price will be a big deal. Moza is usually pretty competitive. Fingers crossed.
@slecht
@slecht 28 күн бұрын
@@IvanSkyFlight yea hope the base is like €400 or something & the stick like €140. But we will see!
@slecht
@slecht 26 күн бұрын
@@IvanSkyFlight Price is known (but I guess you know already) and you can pre-order it on their site! Price is allright!
@GradyWhiteBoatSales
@GradyWhiteBoatSales 25 күн бұрын
@@slechtnailed the pricing 😂😂
@randomv3iwer
@randomv3iwer 29 күн бұрын
Is that War Thunder? Would have been better experience if they let you try it on a cold war Premium Jet instead of a Rank 1 plane And Sim mode instead of Realistic or Arcade.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 29 күн бұрын
I am not sure. Others have said it was. Agreed. Need to try this out with DCS, MSFS, and X-Plane.
@benjidowning2609
@benjidowning2609 29 күн бұрын
Were the pedals force feedback as well?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 29 күн бұрын
They were not
@RIKAAR_Ambient
@RIKAAR_Ambient 29 күн бұрын
winwing will release some! they showed them on the presentation on the FSE
@EvilTurnip
@EvilTurnip 28 күн бұрын
@@RIKAAR_Ambient winwing did? Or are you mixing it up with flitesim?
@RIKAAR_Ambient
@RIKAAR_Ambient 28 күн бұрын
@@EvilTurnip Yeah! WinWIng "just" annonced "The Taurus" Base! But they will come up also with FFB Rudders pretty shure!
@EvilTurnip
@EvilTurnip 28 күн бұрын
@@RIKAAR_Ambient lets hope so. I'm looking forward to seeing how the FFB joystick base turns out. An affordable FFB rudder pedal set after that would be amazing
@Coops383
@Coops383 Ай бұрын
Is it just me, or do the pedals look really wide?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 29 күн бұрын
They are wider than my Thrustmaster pendulum style pedals, but they did not feel too wide. The width does give you a bit more precision.
@Nikolayka7
@Nikolayka7 Ай бұрын
Hi! Do you have any info regarding the price? I suppose it's most important question 😄
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 29 күн бұрын
It's a good question, and no word on price just yet. Given that it's moza, it will likely be reasonable. At least their race gear is priced well for what you get.
@Takaoshi
@Takaoshi 26 күн бұрын
549$ for the Base, 169$ for the stick and 79$ for the Z-Axis Module for those that want yaw and extention on the stick. No info on the throttle module and pedals yet
@Nikolayka7
@Nikolayka7 17 күн бұрын
@@Takaoshi Appreciate, man!)
@sibzilla
@sibzilla Ай бұрын
Yeah man nicely done. Out there doing the work no one else is serving up. Props due!
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 29 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@markturner6091
@markturner6091 Ай бұрын
Feels nice……. Could we have a bit more than that?
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 29 күн бұрын
If I ever get my mitts on one, I will do a full review.
@FlightSimMuseum
@FlightSimMuseum 27 күн бұрын
He was in the moment, having a great time I would guess 😀
@mimino0125
@mimino0125 Ай бұрын
its not a sim ,just game War thunder. Why did not you check on DCS f-18?
@tonyf9076
@tonyf9076 Ай бұрын
The FA/18 is a fly by wire aircraft, forces are simulated to the pilot, you won't get a proper feel with a FFB stick. Now if he tried the Phantom then that's a different story 👍🏻
@khaledassaf6356
@khaledassaf6356 29 күн бұрын
@@tonyf9076 Haven't tried the Phantom yet, but if it's the same as the Tomcat (which I expect it is, seeing as it's the same developer) then it should be considered the gold standard of what FFB support should be like.
@tonyf9076
@tonyf9076 29 күн бұрын
@@khaledassaf6356 100% 👍🏻
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 29 күн бұрын
I only had access to what they had up and running.
@BladeRiderAU
@BladeRiderAU Ай бұрын
Did you try the Charlie pedals? Be interested in your opinion versus the TM TPR pedals. How they differ quality and feel wise.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight 29 күн бұрын
Didn't get a chance to try the Charlies. Having said that, the TM TPR pedals are hard to beat. One of the best parts of my sim.
@tomas5577
@tomas5577 29 күн бұрын
@@IvanSkyFlightLove my TPR’s, especially after installing a damper.
@hornetj3777
@hornetj3777 Ай бұрын
I would like to know the dimensions and weight of the base.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight Ай бұрын
I don't see anything posted on their website right now. I'll keep an eye out.
@hornetj3777
@hornetj3777 Ай бұрын
@@IvanSkyFlight Can you provide an estimate of the dimensions based on your experience with the product.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight Ай бұрын
@@hornetj3777 Rough estimate: 5-6 inches by 7-8 inches. About 7-8 inches tall. It was mounted so I couldn't tell the weight, but Blu Games (who does a full review) says it's heavy.
@gumball20000
@gumball20000 Ай бұрын
Honestly I’d be fine if they slowed down or cancelled the new products they’ve announced in the past few years, like the glass screens and HOTAS. Just focus on getting consistent production on the Alpha, Bravo, and Charlie and resume quality customer support. They need to rebuild some faith in the brand, which will take time.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight Ай бұрын
I think getting back to the basics is a great idea. I would much rather they do as you suggest than to falter due to spreading their resources too thin.
@carlboulianne4284
@carlboulianne4284 Ай бұрын
Hi Ivan, thank you for the information, I’ll fo look for sure, but do I need air manager desktop for installing the instrument or they have a program of there own. Thank’s again and have a nice day.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight Ай бұрын
Great question. Yes, you would need to purchase and install Air Manager. I have a video on how to install third party instruments. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eNamksJzyc-pmYk.htmlsi=fm_3CLlVN0CoBlqh
@carlboulianne4284
@carlboulianne4284 Ай бұрын
Hi Ivan, I tried it, I was able to installed it but my knobster is showing not connected in msfs, the knobster is activate in air manager it shows in air manager that the knobster is active but in msfs the g1000 is showing but cannot use the buttons or knobster. And do I need to activate flight simulator plugins each time or it was one one when you installed it, thank’s again for your time, have a nice day.
@rapidrapid2589
@rapidrapid2589 Ай бұрын
Thanks for getting a Ball Park figure release date.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight Ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@rapidrapid2589
@rapidrapid2589 Ай бұрын
Thanks for your quick review.
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight Ай бұрын
No problem!
@FlightSimMuseum
@FlightSimMuseum Ай бұрын
It's great to see some of the car hardware manufacturers edging into the flight sim area, they will certainly bring the 'ruggedness' level up!
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight Ай бұрын
And hopefully more force feedback.
@FlightSimMuseum
@FlightSimMuseum Ай бұрын
@@IvanSkyFlight Absolutely agree!
@scuzzy2142
@scuzzy2142 Ай бұрын
Running it in War thunder lol
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight Ай бұрын
I wasn't sure what it was.
@scuzzy2142
@scuzzy2142 Ай бұрын
@@IvanSkyFlight was just funny to see. Cool to see Ware thunder at a Sim convention
@FlightSimMuseum
@FlightSimMuseum Ай бұрын
A great looking piece of kit!
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight Ай бұрын
I thought so!
@marshw13FlightSim
@marshw13FlightSim Ай бұрын
The Moza was ok. Force feedback is great, but I also find my Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS satisfying with a much smaller base (even with the AVA upgrade).
@IvanSkyFlight
@IvanSkyFlight Ай бұрын
That is a great joystick you have, no doubt. Having said that, one thing I took from FSE 2024 was how cool force feedback is, and how behind the times flight simulation is compared to racing where force feedback is more and more common while also being affordable.
@marshw13FlightSim
@marshw13FlightSim Ай бұрын
@@IvanSkyFlightvery fair point. I’ll give FFB another look.
@scuzzy2142
@scuzzy2142 Ай бұрын
I'm most intrested in the Winwing force feedback stick that was announced as well.
@Crispkind
@Crispkind 26 күн бұрын
Balljoint disqualifies the Warthog stick tbh. At this Point its basicly an overpriced x56 with a bit more metal. But then again. its over a Decade old by now right? By now there are way better Hotas options in the same Pricerange from Winwing etc :)