I agree to a point, Covid was a problem and the shipping companies made millions upon millions in record profits. But things are back to normal(ish) now but prices only keep increasing. End of the story, just greed ruling now and virtually no fairness to consumers, we are always the ones that have to take it up the a##.

Why are all yall trying to get us to buy these ? They got you sponsored ?

baffled that mineral wool is still used in acoustic panels given the health hazards. Yes, the acoustic properties are good, for that material but so are sheep wool, cellulose, hemp and other more health friendly material.

stolen sanctuary

Way to Dad Matt! Very cool. Don't miss one day of fun with your kiddos! I missed so much and now it's too late for me. Keep being awesome!

I wish I knew this. Helps justify the cost.

PSA subs all day baby :)

Dang it i just found your channel. You need to advertise you have your own channel and im glad you do and glad i found it.

that app is awesome. thanks for the recommendation. it looks like all 7 bed channels & 4 ceiling speakers are capable of hitting 105db reference in the atmos system before room gain. all besides the center channel which would theatrically hit 104.3db peak before room gain.

Loving the family videos, Matthew.

Really DIYer that dumb, I call BS on that. We hook up our own amps with no issues to passive speakers. You think “us” DIYers are not as smart as “professionals.”

There's a price you have to pay High Quality capable sub/s they play low inforsonics & tactile Bass if you truly appreciate & understand that then your in for a Cinema Experience in the home.

I have a couple of I-Tech 5000HD amps lying around which have a plethora of adjustments for eq and limiting. one still has presets for large subs for live sound reinforcement .I think I’m going to give the diy route a try. Unfortunately ,the JTR price increase ,x4 for four subs , along w shipping prices to Canada skyrocketing definitely put the subs out of reach for me. If it were just one sub the price increase wouldn’t have mattered much but x4 is hard to swallow. I should have pulled the trigger earlier but was indecisive

My old SVS hot water heater sub has served me well since 2001.

The Perlisten subwoofers are so beautifully designed and finished I couldn't imagine buying them to hide away. If I could afford them I would absolutely love a pair though! As far as more affordable options I would say to reach out to GSG by email or phone. I hear so many people praise those guys for their products and service and I believe he can do all of his models fully finished also. To be clear I haven't purchased anything from them myself.

I love the covid scapegoat. One very important thing is, everything got more expensive, but employees wages never went up.

I definitely do not mind you searching stuff on your phone. It would waste way too much of your time to do otherwise. The content is always fun. The current format and consistency of your videos are fantastic. I love listening on my way home from work. Therefore, fancy graphics are unnecessary. I've already crashed twice while paying attention to you 100% over all else. Just kidding, I just rewind if I miss anything. 😅

I still feel what JTR offers is a great value when you consider the quality of manufacturing and support. Can you spend less, sure but I think it’s hard to provide support, and quality products without covering your overhead. I would submit the same is the case of other brands too

Hey Mathew, what are your recommendations for truly affordable subwoofers? $1000 and under in price.

DIY and JTR are the best options for USA for sure. There are many kits one can choose from if don’t want to go full DIY as well. I’ve always went DIY with subs and have stuck with manufactured speakers. I have JTR, Alcons Audio, and Quested speakers. I have Mach 5 Audio 21” drivers, stereo integrity 24” drivers, and AE custom 18” mid bass drivers.

Thanks for the video! Yes, I've been a fan for a long time (decades for Audioholics lol). I'm glad I bought my RS1s before the covid hikes, it's just harder to recommend other people to go the same way now. On the front of powered subs on the walls, the main struggle I had in my theater was it's just a lot easier to run speakerwire than it is to run XLR, power, and 12v triggers. I also think it would be great to see some shallower subwoofers, maybe with 15s in them, so that the false walls don't have to be so deep. A lot of rooms it seems like a waste to have to build a false wall out 2ft. Thanks again!

I know it isn’t easy for everyone but if you want to save tons of money DIY is a route that can give you insane amounts of SPL into the low teens and single digits. Not to take away from what JTR is doing but I’m a diy guys not just to save money but because I really enjoy it. If full diy isn’t your thing GSG audio has crazy affordable options with super detailed instructions on assembly.

Im looking at building sealed boxes with Stereo Integrity HT-18's. They seem like a good value for $200. Good performance when modeling with Win Isd

DIY subs from Gsg audio or other companies . Gsg also sells fully finished subwoofers. You can also diy subs yourself. Even if you are not handy with tools, you can buy subwoofer drivers and have car audio shops who build sub enclosures and they can custom build you an enclosure. Both of these options have a great roi. This is what I did with my stereo integrity 24s. If you are trying to use something like waveforming, diy is even better because of the amount of drivers you will need. And you can build the enclosure as tall, narrow, wide , or deep as you need. Yes, there is no built in dsp but it’s not needed if you run a mini dsp or have higher end processors. Cvr also makes some very cost efficient high performance amp. Simulator to powersoft amp. Side note. The biggest cause of lumber increase during covid was the fact that lumber mills in Canada and the us had been in a 2 year phase of curtailments. So mills were reducing production and closing down. All of a sudden, rates went to 0 and demand skyrocketed with sub 3% rates. Lumber futures skyrocketed and prices skyrocketed as well. It took 2 years to get capacity back up and now mills are starting to ramp up curtailment again so prices are starting to fall again due to low demand from have over 6% interests for 2 years. Look at a 5 year view of lumber futures and it tracks closely with price increase/decrease.

I don't blame Jeff at all for pricing the RS1 at $3300 these days. If you actually add up all the costs of the components to build your own equally capable 18" sealed sub, you end up only saving ~$500. And that doesn't count the cost of tools, the value of your time, or the value of Jeff's design experience and DSP optimization. The closest DIY 18" driver I've seen to the JTR 18" is the Stereo Integrity HST-18 which costs $1000. And it's slightly less capable than the JTR driver. Next, the 2400W Speaker Power amp costs $1400. Cheaper plate amps than this will not supply rated power, fall off in output below 15Hz, or have worse quality control. And in my area, Baltic Birch costs $120 now for a 4ftx8ft sheet. And that assumes you can find a supplier at all. Plenty of folks will lie to you and try to pass off regular birch ply as baltic birch. You would also need a table saw and the skills to design/cut your own cabinet. Or you can pay GSG $600 for a sealed 18 baltic birch flat pack. With JTR, there is no catch. You're paying the price you would have paid anyway for the raw materials. Jeff's profit margin is pretty much just what he saves by ordering and manufacturing in bulk.

What if you are offloading the bass below 80 hz to active subwoofers?

If you've got 2 subs get them off the floor, preferably at different heights

I’m not a home theatre guy, I’m an old school, 2 channel man. My hi-fi has to fight for its right to be in our family lounge which is far from ideal. 19 feet long. 17 feet wide, 8 feet tall. The room is open plan and P-shaped with the leg of the P being a 13 feet by 9 feet kitchen. 1 of the long walls in the lounge is all glass from above 3 feet. The walls are plasterboard. The ceiling is concrete. The floor is wood clad concrete. My speakers are 9.5 feet apart, 34 inches from the wall behind them and toed in slightly. My listening position is 11.5 feet from my speakers. Other than the soft furnishings, sofas, curtains, cushions, rugs Etc there is no room treatment. The aesthetics committee, AKA the wife prohibits that. I don’t employ any form of Eq, DSP or room correction software. As I said, I’m very much old school. Oh, there is also a huge RS J running the length of the room, protruding about 9 inches from the ceiling and about 12 inches wide. I’m a music lover, whilst my wife is a tv addict. This means that for a harmonious marriage compromises have to be made. Let me rephrase that, for a harmonious marriage, I have to make compromises. It’s not my preferred methodology, but from time to time I have too resort to headphones as my listening media. I’ve 3 pairs of headphones ranging from an entry level pair costing me €450 to a pair of pro master reference headphones costing me north of €3000! By all accounts those pro master reference headphones are just about as linear/neutral as you can get. Yet, the performance of my hi-fi in my far from ideal room easily matches, if not out performs the performance of those headphones. Now, according to measurements made by Stereophile, my speakers have one of the most linear, on access and off access response of almost any speaker they’ve measured and maybe this is a major contributory factor to my hi-fit’s performance. The question begs:- is that despite the room, or, because of the room. I tend to lean toward the latter. I believe our auditory system has evolved to differentiate between direct and indirect sound. Easily being able to distinguish the hi-fi from the room. I don’t suffer from room anxiety. All comments welcomed. Interestingly enough, I left a very similar comment after watching one of John Darko’s videos. That comment was deleted PDQ. I think that speaks volumes.

JBL synthesis has much wider vertical dispersion. Weird companies are going away from the segment creator.

I'm used to hearing of how to use directivity with stereo only; this way of using it to even a surround system response is kind of enlightening. Thanks!

Why speak at all ? You have no clue what you are talking about. Cables absolutely sound different.

Hello Mathew, Reference level, 105 db But this is for theater,isn’t it accoustictly calibrated for a a big number of persons in a very large room ? bodys absorb lots of sound So 105db is it really for like up to 8 people in a home theater room compared to reel theater with 50 people and a way biger room ?

Great video and something I have been thinking alot about. Balancing the best viewing angle vs best sound. You don’t talk much about the choosing the seating distance and getting it in the best position relative to room modes - I wonder if measuring the bass response while moving the seats forward or back to make sure the primary seating position is not in a bad null would be something to add to the mix in addition to optimizing viewing angle- I am thinking this would be one the first things to do, after which would be placing the surrounds and atmos locations …its seems this balancing act is pretty complicated and involved

Is DIRAC ART going to have a wide release anytime soon? I have an AudioControl X9 with 4 subs and I would love to try it

I wish I could experience it. Congrats on the improvements.

Hi Matt! Just wanted to thank you for these videos! Very informative. I do have a question regarding the "non-dedicated theater room" room and quality sound. I know I am in the minority but would love to know how often you're asked to incorporate end-game speakers into a "normal" living room. I spent a lot on furnishings and am looking at some S7ts to pair with my LG OLED and NAD M33. Am I nuts going for broke with the S7t? Or would I benefit from maybe some R7t and in-walls for a 5.2.2? (Giant TVs require giant floor standers IMHO.) I spend about 50% of my time listening to music on my comfy sofa, 25% watching KZfaq, and 25% on movies/tv equally. Thanks!

Can u give me link for angle calculator that u use ? Thanks

Agree 100%. I save and buy whatever I think carries the sound I like. My system is as follows: Ifi Zen stream; PS Audio Gold DAC and Preamp feeding a Parasound JC5 amp. As speakers I have ELAC towers which I intend to upgrade to Mofi 888 (I like Andrew Jones signature) And that's it. No more money on gear. Ah... I use roon. End of story.

Thanks for the information Matthew! I didn't intend to get you riled up or to be critical towards the Perlistens. :). They just seemed to have significantly different vertical dispersion pattern than the Ascendos, for example. Thanks for sharing all this great information, keep it up.

Matt, what do you think about using mtm center channels as surrounds? You dont necessarily need good horiztonal directivity for surrounds and there shouldnt be alot of lobing as you get into extreme angles on the verticle. They are often a bit slimmer and may have advantages in aesthetic designs in a media room.

I misunderstood what you said before. This is helpful.