Yep thank you for pointing this out. I have no idea why the English version added fear to it. Like you said Marika's reasons for hiding Messmer are indeed ambiguous.
@padrenuestre4 сағат бұрын
Technically the translation is correct. Messmer's flame does burn both body and soul. But there is a nuance to it: Messmer's flame "purifies/cleanses" the soul so to speak but doesn't have a destructive property of frenzied flame. So yes, the souls are indeed remain, they don't perish.
@rttowers7 сағат бұрын
“No one deserves to suffer therefore the world should go”
@arglebargle429 сағат бұрын
Ok I have a hypothesis about the shaman/numen connection: Numen are NOT from the lands between, besides Marika I think we see NO numen in game due to their looks in character creation. And Marika's been transformed and was not exactly directly numen. So Numen literally come from somewhere we've never visited in-game, I believe their arrival post-dates the Crucible but not by much. They came from elsewhere bringing their big stone coffin boats filled with material to grow trees (i.e. corpses). They land in the Lands Between and settle in, the ones that settle in Marika's hometown that offshoot is known as Shaman. I also believe the Numen to be the ancestors of the hornsent, and that making things from corpses is a Numen cultural thing passed down to ALL descendants of the Numen that came ashore in the Lands Between. This includes the Nox. Also, I may be wrong but I think Numen in history are exclusively female (despite the character creator) because Numen are Born From Trees. The 'grandmother' is the tree Marika was born from. Shaman are Numen descendants, likely very directly as cityfolk/countryfolk kind of split, their flesh melds well and easily with others, it is a feature of their lineage and we see it in Grafting. LP I think you are right that the lack of horns is what allows Shaman to readily accept the flesh of others, making them both 1) Valuable to the hornsent and 2)From an outcast group that the very fact of their horn purity guarantees both the disposable status of, and usefulness of. I think the hornsent also reproduce via trees. The reason ALL of the post Erd Tree text about the 'impurity' of horns come from Marika's disgust towards the Hornsent, not an inherent 'kagare' of possessing horns. And if you are correct and having horns makes them unsuitable for whatever the bonding nature of Numem proto grafting is. Also, their very presence in the cycle of life and death implies other people will get it and their souls will be forever cut off from the Erd Tree (which I suspect is just a massive implementation of grafting using the spirit knowledge of the ancient Rauh culture) and likely immune to certain manipulations associated with Numen proto grafting. As a side note, the entire mimic tear experiment like of the Nox is using the same 'born from a tree' kind of nature but applied to inanimate matter, and I think the bodies around their thrones are the same as the Spirit Gate, and the bodies bound into columns in Rykard's arena (HE WAS MAKING A CRUCIBLE!) So Numen were the ancestors of nearly all hominid life except the beastmen, and were very mutable and adaptable and born from trees. They landed and split off into the cosmopolitan hornsent and the rural shaman. Hornsent used their rural cousins in unspeakable rituals to forward a Normalized Cruicible Vortex on a small scale, the being equivalent to their architecture. At the time the hornsent worshiped the crucible itself and were working on manifesting a full blown god to represent it, using the ritual in the scroll Miquella used. Marika reversed the ritual and instead of being the sacrifice, took power from the to-be-god and ascended herself. Likely the story trailer is right after a ritual were all the bodies you see were Shaman and Hornsent sacrificed to ascend the snake and the outcome was 'The Strumpet's Betrayal'. Then Marika goes on to conquer the rest of the Lands Between, the Shamen she rescued becoming who would be the Nox and the remaining Nobles and commoners. The Nox being the Shamen that rebelled against the two fingers and created the fingerslayer blade, cut off from Erd Tree births would have to resort to the mimic tears. Also I think Numen are functionally age-immortal, as in they naturally regardless of Grace do not die of old age. I think the Nox we fight in the underground cities are literally the last of their race to persist since the cities fell.
@johntaylor846911 сағат бұрын
No scadutree fragments is the same as a rl1 play through. People can criticize you and say it’s your fault for limiting yourself, but these types of play throughs put boss design under max criticism because all you are left with is player skill and boss move design. It perfectly shows how the bosses are tuned to have maximum damage and minimal attack windows. Which is technically beatable, but not in the slightest bit fun.
@nightscout997917 сағат бұрын
I found the exact post I remembered seeing about someone trying to translate Light of Miquella. It was a screen capture of a Twitter post by someone named Soycrates (yes, like the soy insult). Someone who also saw the image transcribed a different translation they found (giving no source though) that said "An absolute god and their king can never coexist."
@deathandrebirth-y8xКүн бұрын
frenzied flame ending allows melina to live. im a simp
@Writh811Күн бұрын
Something I noticed about the DLC that has me confused is the yellow Gold that is everywhere in this land of the Crucible. Wasn't Crucible Gold more reddish like the Crucible Knight armor. Was that meant to be a niche thing? The fact that Crucible armor still exists means it didn't all turn yellow. Did Fromsoft forget about this?
@okeneko5768Күн бұрын
I remember Kuro from Sekiro being called a 'miko' as well and was confused because most of my exposure to Japanese media depict them as females until I looked for the characters used. Feeling surprised and not surprised at the same time learning that they also used that to the shamans in ER.
@Lamajmassar2 күн бұрын
but the frenzied flame ending doesnt end up in restoration it ends up in chaos and death there is no repeat
@complicatedspectrum2 күн бұрын
Does "Igon's finger" mean an item he acquired, and giving to us? or did he cut off his own finger?
@LastProtagonist2 күн бұрын
Good question. It would presumably be his finger if it's related to his soul, but who knows. Maybe we can project our souls with any dusty ol finger
@seandougherty29253 күн бұрын
At 10:35 I think you are taking some huge leaps connecting blood flies to Man Flies and saying that the blood ritual removed impurities from the blood friends arm. More likely it made the Arm a holy instrument to the followings of the Mother who excepts those with blood based curses like Mohg. So your entire train of thought doesn't really hold up.
@Xgenstudioz7772 күн бұрын
You say something about leaping, but you also substitute "to purify" (to cleanse, to purge) for "make holy". Purification is making something pure of something. Otherwise it is nothing special at least because it is “an arm pulled from the corpse of one of their kin, and wielded as a *makeshift weapon* ”. This weapon doesn't even have scaling from holiness. It's just a physical weapon. What does this have to do with a holy instrument? And, as mentioned, we see from Mohg's example that he is literally the only horned omen that doesn't have cursed omen attacks.
@jackirish90223 күн бұрын
If the true form of the greater whale is darkness. Does that mean grace is technically heresy Maybe that's the original sin. Light.
@GrahamChapman4 күн бұрын
Trivia: Fairytales about princes who've been placed under a curse that transforms them into something scary or gross but that transform back into princes at night or if kissed by a princess are actually a genre. Examples include "Princess and The Frog", "Beauty and The Beast", and "East of the Sun and West of the Moon" among others... Aaand yeah, if you think they've got creepy undertones, then you're on to something. See, the moral of those stories specifically addressed young girls: "The guy you're arranged to marry could be a repulsive frog, or a bestial savage, or a scary animal, but when he sneaks into your bedchamber at night he'll be positively princely."
@Photoloss4 күн бұрын
1:08:50 any significance to this chasm? Possible Elden Stars impact? Random bottomless pit for the lulz?
@MatthewBenner-nt7qd4 күн бұрын
You can’t suffer but you also can’t have fun life isnt entirely suffering as you said happiness is worth preserving even with overwhelming suffering it’s because of suffering that good shines and without people lose purpose not to say suffering is purpose but it gives meaning to goals also I like how your kinda just saying the best ending for earth is for like a trillion nuclear bombs to burn everyone away “ending suffering” like you want
@sauce81484 күн бұрын
Nah it's the worst ending. Melina vows to kill you and there will never be any existence, love, family, friends, again since you killed them all.
@vinhnguyen-o5z4 күн бұрын
id rather have this than letting Melina to kill herself tbh.
@sauce81484 күн бұрын
@@vinhnguyen-o5z And you killed Torrent, Nepheli etc and you destroyed everything. Truly fantastic. Ranni's ending is the only true ending for me. That way I can honor my boys, Iji and Blaid.
@vinhnguyen-o5z4 күн бұрын
@@sauce8148 but melina dead 😭
@satirical1404 күн бұрын
I’ve been watching a series called “An Agony of Effort” by Charred Thermos, and he actually found that Laurence’s position actually more looks like the statue ‘Cast From Nature,’ which is a cast of a dissected cadaver from the Victorian era. Give it a look, it is a criminally underrated series and he draws a lot of amazing conclusions
@jackirish90224 күн бұрын
You and your community are very nice. If I said the word Sona In some places I would have been made. fun of. By people that think it's funny. To harass people that have a hobby. Your community makes me feel really comfortable. Which is hard for me. Because the trauma I have. I don't trust people easily.
@ironlung71464 күн бұрын
Great videos enjoy the content 🍻
@ibadrizvi57405 күн бұрын
The issue is, the golden mask ending goes against the golden order as his own follower said he was a delusional heritic if I'm not wrong so maybe there is more to a modified order unneeding of outside influences than it first seems
@natebookout13535 күн бұрын
Miquella's Hornsent also uses a similar curse spell as Dung Eater does when he fights. I'm not clear about the relationship between the Hornsent and the Shamans (the Tower People). Were they really the same culture, even? Or did the Hornsent conquer the Shamans the same way that Marika and Messmer conquered the Hornsent?
@Aster-mj4nc5 күн бұрын
Especially in the west.bro don't say that I am asian
@deathandrebirth-y8xКүн бұрын
some concepts are abhorrent to another culture. i hear japanese let their men cheat. in the west that is worst thing you can do.
@ingridblom37146 күн бұрын
Just admit it that charred thermos is on the money already! You have identical designs linking back to victorian era sources, come on. The whole bloodborne community is just reeling because of his findings. Evreybody is hyperfocused on the mythology of bloodborne, but CT broke in to the actual inspiration for Bloodborne! It's over, it's done!
@jackirish90226 күн бұрын
In real life, I want to Bring a age. Of love and compassion. I have seen how so many people are hurt all the time. How I've been hurt. I'm so sick of the constant Hatred to otters that are different I want to Give people help I've always needed to help people. I feel like if I stop helping people I will die. I just want Change.
@jackirish90226 күн бұрын
Sorry, if this comment was depressed. I've just been for so much abuse my whole life. And seen so much of it I just want to be there for people like I never had.
@jeremyeusebio7 күн бұрын
34;55 what was that ash of war? looks so sick man
@bc86487 күн бұрын
How does ng+ work with this ending?
@tahaelhour6907 күн бұрын
18:44 that would explain why Horah Loux fights with claws and roars after killing Serosh. The fact that Godfrey fights with stomps and swirly swings seems to tie him somehow to the battle practices of the horned warriors too.
@JBdemonking8 күн бұрын
So is this not actually a video defending the franzy flame and just an april fools prank?
@Photoloss8 күн бұрын
2:10:38 so is Bayle's lineage the origin/progenitor of the hornsent? These horns in his heart probably are the earliest in the timeline if we don't count "regular" horns on the heads of dragons. And while there don't seem to be many direct cultural connections Enir Ilim seems like a symbolic imitation of the storm beyond time, both essentially being divine spirals which reach the heavens. 2:27:55 ironic how the common interpretation of a "tyrant" usually goes in the other direction: cripplingly obsessed with being overthrown (probably because that's how _they_ claimed the throne to begin with) and enacting ever more draconic punishments against any perceived threat whether real or imagined. 2:32:20 on one hand the spirit summon description makes it sound like she "developed human attachments" and sounds quite positive. On the other she was previously devoted to manipulating a cult into slaying a traitor, and human hearts are also known for holding grudges. Makes it seem like karmic retribution: if you will be a good lord she will happily follow, but if you anger her she'll end you much like Gloam-Eyed Melina.
@Photoloss8 күн бұрын
To me the most annoying part about the Crucible is the ancient Erdtree sigil not having any prominent spiral imagery. Otherwise it'd make a lot of sense for the original Erdtree to have been a double helix (similar to the Haligtree) which was split into the straight golden tree and the brittle husk of the Scadutree with the removal of Destined Death. 2:54:00 uh, why WOULD the Shadowlands NOT be "wrong" and why would the Suppressing Pillar NOT be malfunctioning, when Marika sealed the lands away and then shattered the Elden Ring? Since the Pillar mentions the Lands Between it probably requires the lands to be whole in order to truly function properly, although whether it can still enact its proper function upon the Shadowlands is another matter. Of course with it being _very_ old the entire thing could be a bit of a red herring, supposed to establish the Lands Between as a whole as "the afterlife" to the other regions mentioned e.g. the Land of Reeds and Eochaid (and maybe Ranah etc.) rather than describing the flow of death _within_ the Lands Between. Or for a combination of the two ideas, the Pillar was originally built to establish a kind of closed loop ecosystem which also (eventually?) involved the Crucible, but Marika upended that with the removal of Destined Death and nowadays the Pillar only exists to confirm that the Shadowlands were in fact once the geometric centre of the Lands Between.
@eowade92118 күн бұрын
I guess the Hornsent could only be inhabited by spirits, when the Numen/Shaman would be inhabited by gods. That would explain why they killed all the shamans. If the Hornsent were the chosen ones as they like to believe, they would also be inhabited by gods and not just spirits or tempests. It would not be the first time that Hornsent would get rid of their opponent who makes them look bad : they hid away the Lamenter in a gaol for the same reason. Them too had marvelous horns, and not just on their head but their whole bodies. How could the Hornsent trully be the chosen ones when others (Lamenters' race and Shamans') do everything better than them? Also, the fact that shamans were closer to the spirit world may be the reason why Marikas' offspring would be "cursed" to be a vessel for Gods (God of Rot for Malenia, St Trina for Miquella, the Base Serpent for Messmer, and the Gloam Eyed Queen for Milena) Note that only Marikas' "true heir" (the one she had with Radagon, so basicaly herself) can be inhabited by gods. When they F together, they infant shamans (could also Radagon be a Shaman, or something kin to one?), but if one of the 2 parents aren't shamans, they lose the ability to be vessel for Gods and aren't shaman anymore. Maybe the reason why Numen/Shamans are seldom born?
@AwesomeDeBawesome8 күн бұрын
Just to add to the streamer debuff comments: The brain isn't built to handle multiple complex tasks simultaneously. You can't read a book and listen to a podcast and get all the information, for example. The nature of streaming is such that you have to perform such tasks: playing the game, saying something relevant about the game, thinking of lore to talk about, reading chat and responding. When switching between these tasks, normally it would take the brain a few seconds to switch. When streaming, you're constantly switching, making it more taxing on the brain. EDIT: You described this later in the stream anyway!
@Thedeepesttruth9 күн бұрын
Oh crap I just had an epiphany!! I think that the Hornsent where trying to do what The Nox and the sorcerers where doing. To make an artificial saint, god, ascended life form! The Jar innards when out side of the Jar look like the Graven Mass of the glintstone sorcerers. One that would allow a channel to the Crucible Current like the graven mass has a connection to the Primeval Current. And the nox tried to do similar things with their Mimic Tears and making a God. Where the hornsent wanted a divine saint, and the nox wanted a god of night, and the sorcerers wanted a God of Stars most likely. I also think the Numen is similar in function as an Empyrean. It’s not so much a race or species as it is a designation. A characteristic or blessing of birth like being omen isn’t really just a race as it is a designation based on a curse. Marika was both a Shaman and a Numen, and a Chosen Empyrean.
@LastProtagonist9 күн бұрын
I didn't think to compare the Jar-miko to the Graven Masses, but I can see it!
@Mrtherapists10 күн бұрын
Can you do a fashion showcase? I'd love a dragon tail to go with my bucket shoes and helm