My question is why don’t the car allow me to charge over 80%??? Cuz I’m only getting 13miles at 80%
@evdabbler13 сағат бұрын
Probably worth bringing to Mitsubishi for a check, they will likely do a dbcam procedure to reset the battery management system and relearn the true capacity. Then if you don't have enough capacity and you're within the battery warranty period then you probably want to ask for them to do something about this.
@k2connect2 күн бұрын
L am going today
@Lewis_Standing4 күн бұрын
Indeed looks excellent. Wonder whether your next car will be a scenic or a 5?
@evdabbler3 күн бұрын
Both good choices I think?
@Nikoo0334 күн бұрын
After coming back from a very long trip with my Ioniq28 and seing what’s currently around, I think I would opt for either a Renault Megane e-tech (all the owners I talked to at charging stations were very pleased) or a KIA EV6, which offers comfort, range, great charging speed and the boot capacity to please most families. Of note, the Ioniq’s heat pump seems incapable of coping with a combination of a long trip with multiple rapid charging sessions and temperatures above 30deg precisely. 🧐
@evdabbler3 күн бұрын
Two different categories size-wise at least, two good choices I think
@user-lo3dx1dz4m4 күн бұрын
Similar to the parking lot of the Retroville Kyiv shopping center Installation stations of the utility company YASNO Kyiv
@anfion20105 күн бұрын
I've been in a couple of long trips with a friend on this polestar 2 (200km and 600km) and even I was afraid for the transmission tunnel I must say it was comfortable as the space under the seats was big and the three adults were comfortable and we didn't suffer during the trip, as disclaimer, the tallest adult at the back was me at 177cm and drove half of the 600 km trip in the middle seat and the other half behind driver. A con that the owner of the car mentioned was poor back visibility as we obstruct it
@evdabbler4 күн бұрын
That's good to know. I have heard since the tunnel in the xc40 (similar) is not a major issue either.
@anfion20105 күн бұрын
Great review, I believe more than numbers these kind of point of views is what we need.
@evdabbler4 күн бұрын
Many thanks!
@pj1005655 күн бұрын
That’s St Pancras, not Kings Cross.
@randombitsofreality8 күн бұрын
A French car, with the British flag on top, left hand drive. In tune with the times.
@WelcomeToDERPLAND9 күн бұрын
Ah- I wish I knew about this so I could have participated, Bought an 2017 Ioniq with 100,000~ miles in California about a year or two ago- it now has 145,000~ miles on it right now- and while I havent specifically charged to 100% (I always fast charge DC and usually it automatically ends at about 93~95% or I take it out early)- It always reports 120~140 miles at that % of 90~98%~ It seems to be fairly accurate with its estimates, and I manage to drive it at 5.0~7.0 mi/kwh regularly- avoiding high speed zones like Freeway/Highways of course.
@evdabbler9 күн бұрын
@@WelcomeToDERPLAND thanks. The form is still open and getting more submissions. Also you can play on the ongoing efficiency game (see recent video)
@WolfgangBothe10 күн бұрын
BMW i4 with 67 kWh-battery? As it is also very efficient....
@evdabbler10 күн бұрын
5 door, efficient, great comfort... I like!
@duneplodder12 күн бұрын
I moved from a 28kWh Ioniq to a used eNiro. Very happy so far.
@evdabbler12 күн бұрын
Sounds very sensible!
@Tim_Small11 күн бұрын
Recently picked up a 90k mile e niro (64kWh) for £12.5k. Transmission and motor had been replaced under warranty just beforehand. Hopefully frequent oil changes will stop the reduction gear dying again!
@tfnico12 күн бұрын
Thank you for the Ioniq videos. I got mine around the same time as you, and I'll keep mine a while longer. The only suitable replacement I can vaguely see on the horizon is the Kia EV4 next year, although I'm not sure it will have a proper hatch and strong fast charging. I'm going to guess you're switching to an EV6 or maybe Ioniq 5.
@evdabbler12 күн бұрын
Thanks. And one could also hope for a 2026 ioniq 4 ie a compact hatchback version of the ioniq 6. Probably more wishful thinking though...
@tfnico12 күн бұрын
@@evdabblerthat would be a great car, but I fear the 6 is already too long for my garage 😁
@glockieme12 күн бұрын
Many thanks for helping me enjoy my Ioniq. Good luck going forward
@evdabbler12 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@SICHTKRAFT14 күн бұрын
Thanks for what you did for the community! Please just keep the videos up as an archive, that will be such a huge help for future buyers of used Ioniqs. And maybe drop the AI images or at least tone it down a bit, they are giving me nightmares ;-). I will stay subscribed for sure. Next car? No idea!
@evdabbler13 күн бұрын
Ah ah thanks and good feedback on the AI :-)
@robertpopek606314 күн бұрын
*suitable
@robertpopek606314 күн бұрын
Thanks for all your excellent videos on the Ioniq! I think there is not much more to report on the car, other than frequantly occuring issues and some DIY. Perhaps that isn't stable for this canel. It will be interestingly to follow your report on your coming car. Tesla Y?😊
@evdabbler14 күн бұрын
@@robertpopek6063 Many thanks for your support throughout. I don"t think a summary of issues would inappropriate, sounds like another crowdsourcing form :-) as for TMY it's of course a great candidate but maybe not as a single car navigating suburban London...
@stevechelt114 күн бұрын
Tesla Model 3?
@evdabbler14 күн бұрын
@@stevechelt1 I understand a number of Ioniq owners moved on to be TM3 owners afterwards, a mostly natural successor... if you don't mind the larger size and the 4 doors.
@stevechelt114 күн бұрын
@@evdabbler As I buy outright and being of limited means I'm looking to move on from my Ampera to a used 38.3 Ioniq very soon, then maybe a Tesla in the future! The lack of a hatch on the M3 would be a bit of a downside to me though.
@FFVoyager14 күн бұрын
I can't guess what you would replace the 'classic' Ioniq with. I keep looking but every alternative falls short for me. I only buy used and they are not as efficient or they cost a fortune and/or I couldn't carry what I need to in them! I might go for a Polestar 2 2wd long range Pilot Plus (to get the 'same' benefits as my SE has as standard) but wouldn't be happy with the at least 20% worse efficiency all the time for 100 miles more range occasionally as like most people, I don't go that far, that often. 🤔
@evdabbler14 күн бұрын
There is no question that if you only occasionally do long distances the Ioniq - especially at its latest used price - is an incredible proposition and hard to beat (unless you want more "style"). A newer car means newer compromises until one day we get the Ioniq 28x2...
@Lewis_Standing14 күн бұрын
Scenic?
@evdabbler14 күн бұрын
@@Lewis_Standing A worthy contender no doubt.
@pieterVTX14 күн бұрын
Hallo which app did you use to record the battery usage data
@evdabbler14 күн бұрын
@@pieterVTX hi. It's PHEV watchdog
@Lewis_Standing14 күн бұрын
Just uploaded my 5.2m/kWh effort from June, sadly I think my new tyres aren't as efficient wnd I'm driving faster than i used to so no amazing numbers from me recently
@evdabbler14 күн бұрын
@@Lewis_Standing thank you. That's still a very solid number for a roomy car.
@denzzzzzzzzzzzz15 күн бұрын
Been there today. About 4 or 5 of the chargers didn’t work…. Many people were complaining. Rest was fully occupied.
@evdabbler15 күн бұрын
@@denzzzzzzzzzzzz Not good today then. Still the French infra has moved on massively and I believe the turning point was around that time when Fastned, Engie, Total delivered on their contracts with motorways and opened this series of charging stations.
@SciFiFactory16 күн бұрын
Someone who can put together a proper graph, love it! Thank you so much!
@robertpopek606319 күн бұрын
How do we report? Here in the comments?
@evdabbler19 күн бұрын
Submission form is here: bit.ly/3A1Ghuw thanks
@ramalho19 күн бұрын
I posted my findings, and briefly it have me the option to upload a pic of my car, but then it disappeared and gave me a warning the page is no longer available.
@evdabbler19 күн бұрын
@@ramalho Apologies - the link is available again at bit.ly/46kbu8t
@ramalho19 күн бұрын
@@evdabbler Thanks, I just uploaded a picture of my Ioniq.
@SciFiFactory20 күн бұрын
Is there an app where I can plan a route without charging stops, but then during navigation there is a list of all upcoming chargers? (List should include infos about DC/AC, power, distance, distance from planned route, count of chargers, toilet and food available?, ideally price) I just want to set where I want to go and start driving. Then I can just pick a charger on the go. This way there is also not need for configuring consumption, SoC thresholds etc... I have not yet found an app that can do this although it should be easier then actually planning the stops.
@evdabbler19 күн бұрын
Try plugshare, that should get you close to what you're describing
@hakimvlogs657925 күн бұрын
For regen breaking do you manually have to use the paddles to break? Also which mode has the most effective b1 or b5?
@evdabbler24 күн бұрын
B5 is the highest regen, B0 is coasting ie none. You can use the paddles to modify the level of regen and therefore 'brake' without using the foot pedals but you don't have to. Check this out as well kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nraCo7VpuLjGp5s.htmlfeature=shared
@ramalhoАй бұрын
Which app are you using on your phone?
@evdabblerАй бұрын
@@ramalho this one is carscanner
@Itsuki_TakeuchiАй бұрын
User47 here 😅 When you need more data from my car, it is very easy for me. I drive 1300km a Week on average. ~500km with charging at Home ~780km with DC charging on the Weekend Short Story of my Car: The First owner (2017 - June 2023) only Charge at Home, only drive in City. I bought the Car in June 2023 with 160000km on the Odometer. Today my odometer says 236xxxkm, yes i drive 9000km since the test 😅 Many people dont believe me that i drive that much with that „little“ range
@Itsuki_TakeuchiАй бұрын
For people how ask about Service. My Engine needed new bearings at 175000km. Cost 7€/bearing and 6 Hours of work (i did it myself). And the car is driving again. A 3 way valve at 230000km cost used 90€ imported from Norway (new by Hyundai 788€). 2 Cabin Filters (20€ each). AC Coolend Service (150€ at a local Gas Station) Hyundai has seen the car in 2022 the last time. Yes i bought a EV with a leaky Service history, no Problem for me. Today (236000km) my Cabin blower begins to squeaks at high rpm (a new Cost 180€ at third Party market)
@bernhardbretterbauer789426 күн бұрын
@@Itsuki_Takeuchi May I ask where you bought the bearings? I've heard it's hard to get (at least from Hyundai). My engine still works fine, but just in case ;-)
@Itsuki_Takeuchi26 күн бұрын
@@bernhardbretterbauer7894 the Bearings from Hyundai are Spezial made for Hyundai. You cant get them from Hyundai. You only can buy the complete Engine (in Germany 13k€) You need 1mm spacers for the 1mm smaller bearing. Then you can buy the new one online everywhere, it is industrial Standard. I use the Brand FAG, it is in for 60k kilometers and no Noise or Vibration
@livinggreenАй бұрын
It would be interesting to see the capacity vs the age of the car. Batteries seem to degrade more as a function of age than distance travelled (number of battery cycles).
Ай бұрын
According to my calculations based on your tables, I conclude that 100% means 26.5 kWh of capacity, not 28 kWh ? 🤔
@evdabblerАй бұрын
That's what I say in the video...
@AntiorganizerАй бұрын
I've seen a few anecdotes of Teslas going 600k km before the battery is too bad. Given the Ioniq's battery high cobalt, like a triple size phev battery, I'm not worried about my Ioniq for a split second. The Ioniq is one of the best choices, if not the best choice, as a used local city runabout car. Plus it handles and rides brilliantly. The only issue is the front wheel spin easily, which can be an issue in wet, ice, and snow conditions. Plus the threat of repair issues should one get into an accident.
@evdabblerАй бұрын
@@Antiorganizer indeed on potential for front wheel spin.
@sp1esАй бұрын
Are we able to browse the data ourselves please?
@evdabbler19 күн бұрын
I will look into it. Thanks
@nathandoble5140Ай бұрын
Thanks for all of this great information. My Ioniq 28 has just clocked over 100,000 km’s. The battery appears ok. Rarely DC charge. I live in rural Australia, and drive on dirt roads. Great car!
@evdabblerАй бұрын
Very good to hear!
@andreasu.3546Ай бұрын
0:11 That is an "interesting" looking picture.
@evdabblerАй бұрын
Indeed. The other additional illustrations have similar flaws if you look closely.
@larirantanen1184Ай бұрын
Hi, great work, Can you make more generic survey or just for new ioniq 5/6? Would be nice to see how the battery chemistry evolves.
@evdabblerАй бұрын
@@larirantanen1184 Thank you. It's a different, bigger undertaking altogether. Let me take that away
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270Ай бұрын
Merci pour cette excellente recherche
@evdabblerАй бұрын
Avec plaisir
@MikexceptionАй бұрын
My two questions: If battery are not noticeably degrading then what would be at all a reason behind selling EVs by owners ? Why producers warn in instruction owners not to charge above 80% an discharge below 20% which means that user from new condition is warned that to avoid degradation is required to use only 60% capacity ?
@AB-yt4hdАй бұрын
I had a Ioniq 28, bought in 2017 and sold one month ago at 156000km. I didn't notice any major degradation, but I had the motor bearing problem at 95000km, which was replaced under warranty. I sent some reductor oil at 120000km to a lab and they didn't detect anything wrong with it (the color was very dark, but they didn't detect anything which would lead to a reductor degradation). I charged the car using fast chargers around 10% of the charges and the 90 other percents were charged at 6.6kW. I charged the car at 90% during winter and 80% during summer every day (and even twice a day in winter). I charged the car at 100% when I had to do a big trip, but I program the charger to end the charge half an hour before the trip.
@evdabblerАй бұрын
Fair questions. Well this is far from saying zero degradation here. So there is still a benefit in taking care of the battery within reason (which i dont think excludes charging to 100% overnight if using the next day) 0:11 . Battery chemistry will matter too, eg LFP cars are meant to tolerate more remaining longer at 100%. As for selling EVs, not sure what you mean, people change cars because of leasing deals coming to an end, wanting latest technology. etc...but from surveys i see ev drivers tend to stick with evs once they have given it a go.
@MikexceptionАй бұрын
@@evdabbler Fair answer😉 Anyway I think I can give better than you expalnation. It is for people who push this agenda need now to exraggate battery life as function on volume of single charging because nor electricity and no mega powerfull grid for fast chargers are available And changing it may take long time (if it will be possible at all).
@florentcosteАй бұрын
Thank you ! tip : a part the battery, now is important to ask for reductor/motor bearing issues or not, oil reductor change frequency... ?
@evdabblerАй бұрын
I see what you're saying... will think about it.
@sovietspybobАй бұрын
fantastic video, really good data and extremely useful to someone like myself who's looking to purchase one of these 2nd hand soon.
@evdabblerАй бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@patrickcrombez150Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this, very interesting! Could you insert the calendar degradation ? I think it’s most important for low milage cars!
@evdabblerАй бұрын
@@patrickcrombez150 i didnt do it this time as we realky have 3 discrete years as input. Will double check nonetheless
@BS-jw7nfАй бұрын
I have to say that 200k km should not be a stretch for any reasonably maintained car, many poor people are stuck with them and I honestly expect that any self-respecting car manufacturer can hit 400k. Many people in the west clearly have no idea what abuse happens when these cars have depreciated to the point of export to poor countries. They'll run to 500k+ with scrap heap engineering and emissions that will blow your mind.
@evdabblerАй бұрын
Very fair comment. I did say "discuss" on that bit... one can hope that very long term keeping gets easier with an EV than ICE in fact
@peterjones6322Ай бұрын
Very good video, and you sound exactly like Roman Grosjean !!