Well considering I spec'd it out, ordered it, and bought it brand new with a window sticker that says 2021, I'm going to go ahead and tell you, that you are wrong bud.

I don't know what you mean, it's the jcw pro exhaust. Tuning not required as it's already a jcw, I threw that in a folder. And no, I deleted the secondary cat with a cobra sport mid pipe and no codes as the secondary cat is not monitored. I'm in the states though, so if you're not you may have a gpf/ppf and that's a separate issue.

I'm sorry, I don't know what your talking about. Go to the ecs website and search for the jcw pro exhaust. It comes with everything you need.

www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-mini-parts/jcw-tuning-kit/11122359631/

Your second cat is not monitored. However, I have no idea if they have added gpf/ ppf to the US minis since 2021. You'd have to peek under your car and compare to the info in this video to make that determination.

Glad I could help!

@@j8rr3tt I will just make straight pipe instead of this opf part , this is also resonator i guess, will it pass MOT?

@@MsFingerboards I'm in the states, we don't have the opf, resonator only. I don't think you will pass but I would talk to someone local to you. Systems are available from the resonator/opf back though.

Glad I could help. So if you want to keep your gpf, they will have to cut your stock exhaust just behind the gpf as it's one piece. They will likely have to trim down the pro exhaust a small bit as well so that it's the proper length. Then when they mount the pro exhaust, they will either have to weld it in place or use clamps as I did. I don't have any video or sound clips of a GPF with a jcw pro exhaust because mine didn't have a GPF as the U.S. doesn't require mini to have them in place here. Though I can say, with the valve open, you will definitely notice a difference and may get some crackles and pops.

@@j8rr3tt Thank you again for your quick answer. In general there is a lot of different opinions and confusion about the JCW-PRO exhaust topic in the internet. i should say i got a bit unsure in mountin the pro exhaust or not. i am afraid of lighting up engine lights after removing the GPF. and i don't want the car to be provokingly loud when the valve is closed - when it's opened i am happy to have pure mini sound. here (switzerland) regulations regarding volume is pretty tough.

in the same boat is as you. did you get the pops and bangs going on your car?

No problem, glad I could help! I'd like to make more informative videos eventually but I'm camera shy lol. I just want to confirm, you're in the states?

@@j8rr3tt Yes I am.

@@3mooreVids perfect! I've also since removed the 2nd cat. So with the pro exhaust valve open it's pretty much a straight pipe from the downpipe back. Hopefully a video coming soon once the weather warms up here.

@@j8rr3tt Yeah. I’ve done that on my 4 other MINIs. 2013 JCW Roadster with catless down pipe, 2nd cat and reso delete, small bullet muffler and larger tips. 2018 JCW convertible stock down pipe, 2nd cat and reso delete, small bullet muffler and larger tips. 2019 JCW Hardtop stock down pipe, stock muffler and tips, 2nd cat and reso delete. I was on my way to do same on my 22 JCW Clubman when I started hearing about the OPF and no pops and such and was getting concerned my Clubman may have an OPF. I couldn’t find anyone who could say for certain. Your video helped tremendously.

@@3mooreVids That's why I put this together! I had the same problem while waiting for my 21 to be delivered. I couldn't find any info except for one post in a Facebook group and one comment on a few years old forum thread. Sounds like a nice collection you have there! I just have the 2, 09 r56 jcw and 21 f56 jcw.

I know this comment is pretty old now, but I have since deleted my second cat and it sounds pretty good!! Hopefully have a video coming once the weather warms up.

About 24 mpg. But keep in mind the car just hit 2k miles so that's not the best average. I also do very little highway driving and I drive hard. Valve is always open and cars always in sport mode.

Great! Yes, as I said, on models with a GPF filter the pro exhaust will need to be modified to be fitted just behind the stock GPF or the GPF needs coded out. At the time of making the video I knew of only one company who was successfully coding out the GPF.

I'm not sure, you'd have to check under the car and compare to the picture in the video.

It's all pretty straight forward. Especially if you follow the dealer install instructions.

I built/ordered my JCW in September 2020 and took delivery in November 2020. Unfortunately if you're not in the USA you likely have a GPF which is keeping the pops and bangs from happening. You can always add the jcw pro exhaust from the resonator back. Or you can look into a GPF delete but that's going to require a tune or a specific exhaust. I'm not sure where you're located but I think I've heard dervtech has accomplished this if you want to get in contact with them.

@@j8rr3tt I'm in Arizona - I took delivery in November as well. Looks like there is a Dinan tune coming too... Bought an R53 JCW in the meantime for my burbles!

@@chamberlin1 well if you're in the states you shouldn't have a GPF. Do you have a jcw? Did you put it in sport mode? What kind of gas are you using?

@@j8rr3tt Yes, 2021 JCW 2 Door Hard Top in sport mode... Matter of fact I used bimmercode to make it start in sport mode all the time. Using Shell 91 Octane of course. I will try to get under the car soon and check for the presence of the GPF.

@@chamberlin1 That's very interesting. It doesn't sound like there is any reason you shouldn't be getting some pops and bangs. I have another video on how to tell if you have a GPF or not. I honestly have no idea why mine would pop and yours wouldn't. The only thing that comes to mind is maybe the dealer installed some kind of software update before you picked your car up, which is unlikely.

The video kindly confirms they are wrong

Ordered everything from ECS tuning. Exhaust: ecs tuning part: ES#: 2817357(manufacturer part #:11122359631) Carbon tips: ecs part #:ES#: 2837151(manufacturer part #:18302349677) The clamp I ordered to better secure the exhaust is listed in the video. That's really the only tip I have is to get that exhaust clamp. It's really pretty straight forward. You can find the dealer install instructions online which you may need when it comes to the wiring. Also a spray bottle of water with a little dish soap will help get the exhaust out of the rubber hangers. I didn't do the tune because i have a JCW already so the tune is pointless for me. It comes with everything you need though to have the dealer flash the tune if you have an S. My mini is a stick/manual. I have some more info in the description as well as a follow up video that also has more info in the description.

@@j8rr3tt Thank You So Much! I too have a ‘21 JCW F56 so I don’t need the tune either. So basically just need install and that’s it? Bluetooth? Any other pearls? Can’t thank you enough! Miss the sound! I had a ‘15 F56 JCW with that exhaust and loved it!. Jose

@@JoseSantos-xz4px nice! Congrats! Yeah it's bluetooth. Probably the hardest thing is removing the glovebox to remove the fuse panel. But there's videos on youtube that helped me remove the glove box. You basically have to remove the fuse box because you need to access the back of it to add a the included wiring for the exhaust to an empty fuse slot. So basically you're creating a fuse slot. Just follow the dealer install instructions online. I believe ecs has the link for the instructions on the product page for the pro exhaust. What county are you in?

@@j8rr3tt Hi pal. Last question? So when you installed the exhaust the only thing you didn’t do is the flash?

@@JoseSantos-xz4px correct! No need for the tune. The tune only adds a few horsepower to the engine of an S model. If you have a jcw it's not necessary, you won't gain anything and dealer will likely not even flash it to a jcw. Even if you have an S it's still really not required, only if you wanted the few extra HP with an S. The tune has no effect on the exhaust itself.

You're welcome! Glad I could help!

I don't have a GPF. It's my understanding that that was only for UK models. Do you know for sure if you have a GPF? The best way to tell is to peak under your car, the resonator will be kind of coned shaped towards the front. That means you have a GPF. If the front of your resonator is flat and looks identical to the rear of your resonator, then you don't have a GPF. Im Trying to figure out how I could show you some pictures of what I'm talking about. As far as buying a remus and cutting a section out, that's definitely something you can do. When I started researching for a JCW pro or remus, I didn't have the car in my possession yet because it was still being built and I couldn't find any info on GPF in the states. So my original plan was to buy the JCW pro exhaust and cut my stock exhaust just behind the resonator and attach the pro exhaust just behind the resonator (not using the mid pipe that comes with the pro exhaust). But when I finally took delivery of my car, I found that it had no GPF and was able to put the entire pro exhaust on.

@@j8rr3tt Sir you're so knowledgeable! "GPF is only for UK models" <<feel so relief after I saw this. So I was wrong.. I've been looking at forums like F56 and NAM, I thought all NAs comes with that. Perhaps all the posts I've seen were written by the UK folks lol. You have no idea how depressed I was when the Remus guy told me their system won't fit on my 2021 (I specified mines is a Canada version though. Unless he was getting wrong information? FYI he's not with Remus but an authorized Canadian distributor). I don't know if I actually have a GPF or not because not handy like you, I don't typically crawl under the car. I believe I could hurt myself if I attempt to do so lol. Please post some pics, I am getting springs install in the next few weeks. I should be able to take a peak by then. On the other hand I am still having less then 2000km on the clock, so I can't even tell do I have pops and bangs when vehicle is in motion. All I know is I am getting some when I rev standstill @ 3000 rpm. In the worst scenario, I can still ask the shop to weld off the Remus & make it a GPF-back.. Just not sure if it will sound as good as what what we've heard on youtube.. I really hope mines doesn't have one. We're both in NA, if yours doesn't have then I shouldn't.. Unless Canada is part of this Euro6 crap but US in not :( Anyway thanks for your help! Look forward to the res pics! Cheers my Mini fellow!! Keep motoring!

@@vincentkwong317 I'm going to try to put together another short video with some pictures comparing exhausts with and without GPF. As far as crawling under the car, you don't actually have to crawl under the car. You can see the reasonaor if you just look under the car from the side. You can even use the camera on your phone to get a closer look without actually putting yourself under the car.

@@j8rr3tt awesome. Will definitely check out tomorrow. Weather here is not as mild as where you are. Don't wanna leave the house now.. God please give me 2 flat res but no cone. I will also keep an eye for the next video! Thanks again for your advices!

@@vincentkwong317 my new mini is hibernating for the winter too! Ohio here! Thanks for watching, and I'm uploading a new video now, hope it helps!

We don't have the GPF in the states. However, your GPF is built into your resonator, the u.s. version doesn't come with a resonator. So what you're hearing in the video is what yours would sound like without the GPF filter and resonator. If you do decide to remove the GPF you will have to have it coded out as well from what I have heard. I don't know about the pops and bangs, I've heard mixed things on the pops being removed outside the states due to regulations of some kind. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Hi, how do you like JCW Pro exhaust? Does it make sense to install with GPF filter? I understand that there is no pops and bangs, but does it make sound exhaust louder and nicer? I have new 2021 JCW and the exhaust is very quiet

@@qubitinua Hello, At the beginning with the gpf filter i did not had any pop an bangs and i did not like it and finally i removed the GPF Filter. After removing it i had a lot of pops and bangs and it was perfect. But after some time a warning light was on and i had to remap the car (because of the gpf delete). So i remapped it (i have now more power as well). The noise is good but the pops and bangs exists only on downshifts in manual mode and not in automatic.

@@techgeeks1009 Hey How did you remove the GPF filter and how did you remap the car?

Lmao what? Are you asking if it pops/bangs?

@@j8rr3tt I guess he's asking about the "gurrrr" sound when you shift around 3K to 4K RPM, like what the Cooper S does in sport mode

You're referring to the "brrrt" upshift sound on modern automatic transmissions. The automatic JCW's will "brrrt" on the upshift, unless it has a particulate filter (which I believe is on all European models). Unsure about JCW Pro though.

ECS tuning, it's at the end of the video.

The programing is a JCW tune to add HP for S models. Mine is a JCW already, so no tune required. Even with an S model, you wouldn't NEED the tune. However the exhaust did come with the documentation to give the dealer for them to flash the tune. So you could still install the exhaust yourself and then have the dealer flash the tune for you if you wish.

@@j8rr3tt what goes into the programming I couldn’t find videos or information

@@betoest93 I believe it's just a 15 horsepower tune that the dealer flashes. The exhaust came with an envelope containing a JCW badge, a code for the dealer to use to flash the tune and instructions for the dealer to use for the tune.

@@j8rr3tt you think I can install the exhaust itself within the remote? I have someone selling just the exhaust

@@karyl372 I believe you can purchase just the remote from mini directly. When the car shuts off the valve closes automatically so you'll need the remote. If you want the exhaust always open you can always unplug it from the boot before you shut the car off.

What about him?

@@j8rr3tt nothing

No, who is it?